NRL Expansion: Phil 'Gus' Gould's radical solution to fix rugby league | 100% Footy
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- Phil 'Gus' Gould puts forward his solution to one of the stickiest issues in the game: expansion of the NRL.
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TH-cam has automatic monitoring. Bad comments get downvoted. Good comments go top
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Channel 9 is hopeless living in dark ages
TH-cam's algorithms are good? You're living in fantasy living
They won't, because open comments means open to criticism and any criticism to muh "journalism" is bad.
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18 teams, 9 teams a pool. Play the teams in your pool twice. The other pool once. 24 rounds plus 2 buys. 26 rounds. Easy peasy.
Big Mike69 yeah bro 2 buys LOL
It will be like the nba system
Conference final then winners of there conference will make the nrl final
Let the pay tv compensate the clubs. The previous tv deal was worth billions.
if you conference i would say go to 20 with 10 teams per conference since there are 10 teams in NSW and have a NSW conference with the Sydney sides, Dragons and Knights and a rest of conference with all the remaining sides plus a few expansion sides
Redcliffe Dolphins - take my word for it. They will be the new QLD club.
Highly likely it would be Ipswich before Redcliffe
Dab Dab Goose I can promise you it will be Redcliffe
@@titoelcomombiano
What who is your source?
rugby league in winter, 2nd division football (soccer) in summer would be awesome at dolphin stadium
@@DabDabGoose The logistics of having an NRL team in Redcliffe makes way more sense than Ipswich. Stadium sizes are about the same, Redcliffe have done the most winning in the Queensland Cup out of any team, coastal locations will always be an easier sales pitch than further inland, there's tonnes of hotels etc. in Redcliffe, Brisbane Airport is on the North (of the river) and Eastern sides of the city, as is Redcliffe and organising express coaches or trains to go to Redcliffe from the airport would be far easier than to Ipswich because trains to Redcliffe don't run through the middle of the city. It just makes a lot more sense for Redcliffe being added as a 2nd Brisbane team than Ipswich Jets.
The problem is that NRL don't spend enough money if at all any into Research. The more data collected the better you can forecast and plan, why do you think Facebook sells all the data they collect from us online? Because serious big companies pay millions if not billions for information they can use to make accurate and more informed decisions regarding planning. Information is so valuable in this modern era but I don't think NRL are backing their research enough.
I'm from Western Sydney but I now currently live in Perth, I go to my nephews junior league games when I can and when I do go there is hugely talented young players over here but they are just lacking some good coaching to improve their game which could also improve the standard of the competition, that's all they need here, some really good coaches to come over and help develop the game. The talent is here and in huge amounts and I feel sorry for them because growing up and playing in Parramatta Leagues we get so much help and support through so many good programs through schools, and Junior Club Footy, and to see that the kids here don't get the same development or programs and good coaching is really neglectful from the NRL.
Perth needs an NRL team, it's practically crying out for one, every time an NRL game is held here it is always sold out. But NRL need to help develop the game from grassroots to help improve the massive talent they have here, and that can only happen if NRL are prepared to invest in sending good coaches over here for a year or two whilst also hosting and improving the local coaches we already have.
The real problem are not the Sydney teams, the problem is the boof-heads in Phillip St who do not have a clue what the fans want and who do not believe in the game. They are just administrators on high salaries that treat it just as a career. A one state team like Melbourne gives it a massive advantage and hence the success and sponsorship that comes with it. Melbourne needs a second team to break the status quo of one state team and create an even playing field.
Melbourne should never have gotten a team to begin with. They selected THE hardest market to penetrate. Made no sense to me. And they inadvertently modified the game thru wrestling. Plus they rorted the cap.
And yes. These faceless useless administrator s have stagnated the game . Perhaps poisoned it. E.g. the refereeing..horrendous at times..
Gus should be running it..
And listen to the fans..
@@DinkyDiTruBlu putting a team down here worked, a diehard AFL state at least knows about rugby and it brings in new fans everyday down here.
Foundation clubs Western Suburbs Magpies & Balmain Tigers should never have been forced to become a joint venture. The AFL has Collingwood Magpies & Richmond Tigers & Footscray Bulldogs. So those three teams should have been relocated to Melbourne and keep their Sydney club identity
@@DinkyDiTruBlu the storm are legit the biggest team in the NRL. Storm were a success.
British based rugby league fan here and love the NRL. Never understood the concept of upping sticks and relocating a club. Every club has history, tradition, a culture, a fan base which is totally disrespected by quitting and moving elsewhere. Obviously Australia is massive in comparison to the UK, so I hope it's expansion rather than relocations.
America don’t have a problem with it
Expansion with Redcliffe is done and dusted now, or if you want to get imaginative with name change suggestions why not call them the Bay City Dolphins or Rivercity Dolphins. But Redcliffe Dolphins is a fine enough name and is better than just simply the 'Dolphins'.
I'm not a Manly fan but that great club represents the entire north shore of Sydney . You don't want to replace Manly, don't even think about it.
I hate manly! Who am I gunna hate with a passion without em!
yeah its an issue because so many of those clubs in sydney are classic clubs, can't get rid of them
@@Will-nb8qk Easy, Chickens, Sharks, Souths, any nsw team😂
@@connormaguire8909 : They should just have a promotion and relegation system. Who knows the North Sydney Bears could make a comeback??? lol
Bring back the frekin bears
Bring back the freakin biff!
Bring back the ARL.
Bring back the 80s
The Bears, the maggies, the steelers.
Bring back the Rams, the Mariners, that reds an the crushers
PNG should have a team ✊✊✊ The only country in the world where Rugby League is the national sport
PNG don't have the time or money for that. PNG won't spend a million dollars or more on a team in the NRL. Look at the salary caps in NRL and compare that to PNG.
@@jasonkangu9650 what do you mean PNG doesn't have the time or money ??? PNG has natural resources that could fund 5 rugby league teams... Not to mention the Hunters and how much international PNG rugby stars are on the international stage...If anything is holding back PNG is PNG oh and corruption too 😂😂😂
@@PBOII88 Look at a business point of view. Sponsoring 5 PNG teams to play in the NRL is not a lucrative business to invest money in. Its all just business not sports for PNG.
There also know for canabilism too.
100% mate might even make em my new club
We have 25 million people in aus im pretty sure theres plenty of talent out there,
Nrl should start doing demographics on grassroots in SA, WA, NT, TAS, who knows wtf is out there
Seriously
This coming from a 24 year old from blacktown
Alekos Dafiniz nrl needa see ur comment ngl
U think that look at the wallibies same amount of people bt we still wack yous
Rugby union is a way of life in nz, australia is not gonna topple that.. Cos union is dead here compared to league
An vice versa with league
Australia are seen as favourites over the kiwis
Which is the way it should be
Seeing as you have 4. 5 million to pick from an we have 25 million
We should be expected to win
Alekos Dafiniz why can’t league just go global like them union fellas ,rugby union is a multi billion dollar industry globally and rising , I think league should have a go at it , coz I think league has all the right ingredients for a global sport fast and free flowing and exciting
No there is not enough talent as PG said.
Phil is a very knowledgeable individual and I really subscribe to his views. Rugby League needs to expand internationally. Currently, there are 3 decent national teams worldwide, the others are distant followers. You need to expand like Rugby Union has done inviting Argentina and the Jaguares, even if this poses significant logistic and financial challenges. This game I find is more technical than Union, and it might attract followers in others countries. Critical mass is necessary, so that the game is not only played in silos (NRL, Super League UK).
You think Rugby League is more technically then Rugby Union? Clueless.
@@Tylar122 Opinions are like a-------; everybody has one (Harry Callahan).
@@a.a.7416 Rugby league is a technical and well known sport - No one ever
Add Adelaide, Perth, Wellington, Central Coast, Redcliffe, and one extra. With 22 teams, you can split into two conferences with 11 each, 20 games played, with 2 byes and you can do a playoff with 4, 6 or 8 from each conference, with the conference champions playing in a Grand Final, like we do it here in the States with our sports. I love the NRL and rugby in general that's why my goal is become a professional. But as Gus said, if you want it to work, you need the right people. It's all about the long term..
We don't have the talent to introduce that many clubs, unless you want to dilute the standard of football even further
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 You make a great point bro, in order to develop talent should the NRL introduce a draft?
@@elijahtchilembe-mpovie2715 I'm a big fan of a draft system but I think it's more of a problem with not enough elite players coming through
@@elijahtchilembe-mpovie2715 adelaide is all AFL , an NRL club isn't gonna work just like last time
@@oldmate6005 True true, would a team in Hamilton work?
Stop disabling comments on highlights videos
@@PaulB_864 you dont have to go to the comments if you dont want to. why are you such an authoritarian?
@@PaulB_864 No, not everyone can take criticism or critical thinking hence why most comments are disabled. Can't have the masses chatting to each other about what BS they are pushing today.
I still don’t understand why the NRL doesn’t have a top tier 12 team comp and a relegation comp (similar to the EPL or English Super League) :(
Not enough people and money for that
Because that's stupid.. You'll just have the same 4 or 5 teams win every year. It's dumb
Adelaide for sure, so much love for rugby league here, numbers show in the games that are held here, SA or WA should happen
Promotion and Relegation, and take away the salary cap. No one's club will die this way it's sink or swim in the main league.
Agreed.. 💯 . Survival of the fittest
take away the salary cap??? doing that you'll get the same clubs at the top who are already rich, so they can buy enough good players and people will want to watch and support them because they have good teams, making them richer while the poorer clubs will have worse and worse teams cause they will have no supporters, no one watching them and they won't get any more money, while all of the new talent will just get bought by the richer clubs
@@connormaguire8909 sure but is that much different to how it is now?
@@DabDabGoose I'm sure every club has $9.02 million for players, and if it's going over that which is probably the case, that just means that payments have to be checked, maybe even have a thing in the contract which allows for police type checks on payments going into bank accounts rather than what the club says payments are
Maybe go back to a brisbane rugby league comp. Have sydney and brisbane have their own conference. Then nsw and qld country comps. And make a conference system. 4 leagues with playoffs..
There used to be a second team in Brisbane called the Crushers. Their extinction was one of the conditions of the truce over the Super League War. They had good crowds as well.
South queensland already tried and failed
QLD Rugby League brought in Super League in Brisbane to enter the top tier market of NSWRL. Then they destroyed it. Sorry Gus expansion means relocating the already established Sydney Teams and making sure they retain their former identity. This has worked wonders with Brisbane Lions known as Fitzroy Lions. Brisbane Bears AFL club didn’t have to embrace Fitzroy when they had the trump card. But they realised history, supporter base from Melbourne Suburb was far more valuable to Brisbane embracing and taking all Fitzroy regalia. So learn from AFL. AFL have said to their players there code and identify is bigger than them, while in league it’s emphasis on a player and immortal status not the club. The game designed by the forefathers of league will put all the current crop of journalists, business leaders, administrators and players into Gaol. What they envisioned is foremost the bible of the game not Super League or trying to promote a cheat team in Melbourne Storm. They are imposing their vision and strategy on the supporter base of League. Toyota Corona Virus should’ve laid waste to NRL & all the teams in different states form there own divisions. Go back to NSWRL and work for a living and play the game on weekends. Plus only time a player is entitled to anything is if they find themselves in a life threatening situation or injury. All your Jonathan Thurston who have no education or skill based because they wanted millions without building a career then run to Channel 9 make me a sideline commentator because I can’t get a job. Many of League players of 60’s & 70’s like Garry Stevens were builders and developed sound and profitable businesses because they were focused on a career as well.
Gal sounds like a complete toss here. Brisbane attracts biggest crowds, highest annual turnover, largest TV audience and he thinks that's a bad place to relocate
Zac Thomas Gal is a toss but the problem is that the Broncos fans won’t jump ship and support the new team. Qld whinged for years about getting a second nrl team and when the titans came in, barely anyone jumped onboard. I live in Brisbane and not one broncos fan I know, left the broncos to support the titans. The broncos are a great team with a rich history and a rusted on, multi generational fan base. Why would anyone jump ship for the new team?
But the Gold Coast isn't Brisbane.
Its not about Broncos fans jumping ship. There are thousands of Brisbane people who dont like the Broncos. If they moved the Dragons up here, theyd get 20k or more every match. St George is very highly supported up here.
End of the day they need to cut a Sydney team and funnel money to the Redcliffe Dolphins. Theyre Qld's next best non-NRL organisation and unlike the Titans, they've produce lots of top tier playersover the years; Cherry-Evans, Civoniceva, Tate, Yow Yeh, Berrigan, etc.
@@QwidgyboMan spot on mate
Matthew I’d be very interested to see the data you are referring to that would suggest that st george is “very highly supported” in Brisbane and would consistently get 20,000 fans to every match. Personally I don’t really mind if Brisbane gets a 2nd team, it’s actually means that I get to watch my team live 3 times a year instead of 2.
I just don’t think it will work because 1. Brisbane has been a 1 team town for too long, that’s why they so much support and sponsorship. the NRL should have acted sooner. And 2. There will be too much backlash if they try to relocate a Sydney team. Like Gus said,The NRL has created a mess for itself by lack of forward planning. now they are dealing with declining attendance, competition with other Codes, declining junior participation in sports, clubs that are not profitable and all the while trying to expand the game to new markets. It’s an absolute shammozzle!
20 teams with two conferences - then quarters, conference finals and grand finals
I would adopt more of an NBA style approach. Conferences are location based. But you should still play everyone at least once.
Can never have 2 NSW teams in a grand final then, can’t have the Broncos Cowboys grand final of 2015, a lot of the greatest grand finals are played off the back of rivalry’s which often take place within the same state. Only interstate grand finals would be a loss.
@@cola-z9219 Good point - but similar to the NBA, the sponsorship and broadcasting dollars from NSW vs QLD type finals would be pretty great
Change it to promotion/relegation. 10 teams in each division, play each other twice. Two up, two down. Add Redcliffe, Perth, Wellington and the Central Coast Bears.
Solution......South Brisbane Titans. Play half home games at Suncorp, the other half on the gold coast. This way Brisbane gets its 2nd team and the Titans attract more sponsors. Allowing it to survive. You're welcome NRL.
I used to hate Phil Gould but hearing his mind about GC Titans and I'm a Broncos supporter is absolutely correct!
The History of Sydney teams in the old days to be competitive took a long time .
If you give up on the Titans AFL will pounce at every cost to make it happen in the long run .
GC is still young and extremely sporty , I grew up on the Gold Coast and I supported the Chargers, but the NRL isn't showing any confidence in my heart to support a team they can't guarantee they will support forever.
Now imagine how all of the people on the GC feel and why they don't want to go to games . They would turn up in the 10's of thousands if the NRL said , we will support the Titans for ever.
It's like a father always being their for their child . That's the feeling.
If they could promise that ! Titans would have my membership and I live in Sydney!!!!!
Pimp
GC has always struggled to keep a pro team. Maybe ad demographics change I don't know it may be possible.
100% They have 2 Huge Rugby League Schools and Keebra Park and Palm Beach Currumbin but I'm pretty sure the former is connected to the Broncos ? Which doesn't make sense ?
Also Broncos control Burleigh Bears now and Tweed Heads I think are connected to South Sydney ?
Gold Coast had to make a deal with Ipswich ...
The Big Clubs are Greedy and they are destroying the Comp just like in the Super League in England !
they pay too many players to much money, it's not the EPL , league needs to get real. the game was bigger back in the 80's and 90'S with semi professional players and every club had 3 grades.
Gus you are my legend, much respect to your wisdom
The answer is simple. This level of professionalism is killing sport as it relies on a trading loss while broadcasters reap any cream from the top. It is wholly driven by broadcasting revenue and the broadcasters are sat on top of a huge pile while most teams scrape by with limited resources. Either share fairly or allow teams to manage their own broadcasting which is the way viewing is headed anyway.
follow the money... Murdoch.
The only expansion Gus knows about is his waist line.
Lol
@MANCHESTER UNITED Soccers for pussys
MANCHESTER UNITED give it a rest
Rugby League was birthed by Newtown, North Sydney, South Sydney, Western Suburbs, Eastern Suburbs & Balmain. We’re are they. The NRL spent all there money 💰 and effort on building Melbourne Storms. Remember the game has died because we killed tribalism culture of the game. We don’t develop stadiums like Brookvale we push them to Bank West because we need to make money 💰. Brisbane Broncos was the team that destroyed the game of League. They wanted inclusion into NSWRL and then brought Super League and killed our foundation clubs. If anything we should be looking at building local stadiums like Belmore, BrookVale, Panthers and Redfern. Then you’ll get the numbers and the game will thrive.
You need $100+ to take the family to watch the footy ... but the "experts" want to "fix" league with expansion? Greed ruins EVERYTHING!
That's why women are the target audience. In any industry really. Social media gave corporations the perfect tool to understand where and who spends money. Men spend money on booze, that's about it. Women drape anything near them in their favourite crap. Even the pet dog and cat. The current times of "empowering females" isn't about equality. It's about pampering the gender which generates most profits.
It’s not exactly expansion they’re talking about decluttering the Sydney market!
$100+..... it's like 20 odd bucks a ticket you tight ass. Pretty sure it costs more to see some dreg of a movie dished out from Hollywood than it is to spend quality time with family at footy game.
@@disobedientavocado5959 Maths can be tricky.
for the 2020 season it cost me $330 for a season membership for 2 adults/2 juniors. This is at bankwest for every home game next season, footy's pretty cheap
If the NRL wants to remain viable in the long term they have to:
1. Western Suburbs Magpies and Balmain Tigers have to become two different franchises again with the Balmain Tigers investing in the Inner Sydney region and Central West Sydney, while Western Suburbs Magpies invest in Far South West Sydney.
2. Have Touch Football as a direct pathway affiliate for boys and especially girls to further develop playmakers and grow numbers.
3. Have a second tier competition for promotion relegation.
4. Bring back the U20s competition or at least a variation of it, that isn't based on a state based system.
With current poor crowd turn out in Sydney, there should be no more than 5 teams based in and around the city. Central, North, South, West and Outer West, which should be Penrith and Parramatta combined to become Cumberland. How each existing clubs are reassigned or renamed into each district, I really don't care. Hopefully people will support their new club and we get crowds back up around 30k. The comp should have no more than 14 teams, as this allows each team to play each other twice! This still enables nine teams outside of Sydney. We have the current seven teams in North Qld, Brisbane, Newcastle, Canberra, Melbourne, NZ, Gold coast. Two new teams can be created elsewhere. A second team in Brisbane, or I would at least consider moving Gold Coast to Brisbane. I think Perth or Central Coast also have merit. Just my thoughts. I know Sydneysiders will hate this, but it will be best for the league long term. :)
Just merging clubs won’t double crowds. If they take away my club then I either support a club outside of Sydney casually or stop watching the game altogether. If they start amalgamating Sydney clubs they rip the heart and soul out of the game. People who don’t live in Sydney simply just don’t understand, they’re clubs, not soulless NFL style franchises. It’s like getting Carlton and Collingwood to merge because they’re in somewhat the same area. There’s two completely different cultures there that just don’t mix. Look at the Northern Eagles. If you alienate Sydney you alienate the game’s biggest market and I can guarantee you that isn’t good for the game.
@@cl9925> I appreciate all your points, but watching a game on TV with 6 to 8k crowd (in large stadiums) is heartless and soulless! Not to mention unviable long term. Sadly, the biggest market you refer to, the supporters do not turn up week to week, unlike other teams outside Sydney. These existing clubs can still remain and play in the state league; and become feeder clubs to new NRL teams. And yes, we will lose market within Sydney initially, but will gain elsewhere. I truly believe young people in Sydney will realign their allegiance over time, but I also understand that the oldies probably won't.
Keep the Titans, make the 4th QLD team on the Sunshine Coast, followed by an Ipswich side and Central Queensland team based in Rockhampton or Bundaberg, make St. George a permanent Illawarra based side, make Manly a permanent North Sydney side, merge the Rabbitohs and Bulldogs to make a combined South Sydney team, relocate Penrith to regional NSW to be based out of either Orange or Bathurst, move Cronulla to the Central Coast, relocate Parramatta to Adelaide, Axe the NZ Warriors, make it an all-Australian competition and relocate the team to Perth.
I don’t know what the hell Gal is talking about how there isn’t enough player depth. There are plenty of guys in both NSW and QLD Cups who are definitely NRL material, there just isn’t enough space for a lot of them on NRL rosters. Going to 18 teams would certainly help give guys stuck in Reserve grade a shot at NRL contracts and game time.
Here is what the NRL would look like:
North Queensland Cowboys
Central Queensland Crushers
Sunshine Coast Falcons
Brisbane Broncos
Ipswich Jets
Gold Coast Titans
Newcastle Knights
Central Coast Sharks
North Sydney Eagles
Sydney City Roosters
South Sydney Bulldogs
West Sydney Tigers
Illawarra Dragons
NSW Country Panthers
Canberra Raiders
Melbourne Storm
Adelaide Rams
Perth Reds
I like your ideas for the comp. But if you cut the warriors you will kill international rugby league. The Kangaroos will be too strong. Be the death of rugby league in NZ.
@@terrencefairhurst3813 The Warriors aren't going nowhere and are in good financial terms. Why people are hating on the Warriors? Maybe due to their on the field performance.
The solution is easy. Create a Promotion/ Relegation system, you just need 2 divisions at the moment. Any new teams join the 2nd division. However, do have a rivalry weekend, where two teams that are bitter rivals play each other regardless of which division they are in.
It won't work not enough people & money
@@Gertzy41 A 2nd Division is a no-brainer
No relocation, Perth or new qld team
A Perth Team is needed and now with the Super Rugby in disarray over here is the time to do it. Sadly the media are all for another Queensland team, this is very short sighted.
Gold Coast Titans need to go, that would be my argument for adding another Brisbane team. Redcliffe Dolphins to me make the most sense, they've won the most QLD Cup Titles, been in the most Grand Finals, have plenty of room to expand Dolphin Stadium and are from a logistics stand point, the most sensible team to add because of the location when you factor in fan travel in relation to Brisbane Airport.
I do also think they either need to ditch a Sydney team or merge 2 for another spot because I think Perth would be a fantastic addition to the NRL, particularly with them not having a Super Rugby team anymore. Adelaide to me doesn't seem like a Rugby city, so I think Perth would be a far better option for an additional location.
Surfing is the only thing that works on the gold coast swap the titian's for a wave pool or two.
Gallen was in over his head on this conversation. Gould should be running the game. Maybe this is him putting up his hand
The conference idea is very, very stupid, exactly the sort of "on ten seconds' thought" idea he criticised before saying it.
Still dont see what the problem is with the Central Coast. It's RL heartland.
Probably something to do with the mariners
@@timscott5782 and with the independent a-league coming into effect in the next few months the mariners are not going anywhere
The problem is that the NRL is Sydney-centric. There are at least 2 or 3 Sydney teams that should go. Regional teams like the Raiders and the Knights are snubbed by the NRL. The same would happen to a Central Coast team.
Nah it's because The Roosters want that area for junior Catchment because they are a Tiny Club with copious amounts of money.
That's why they got rid of North Sydney !
Manly and Easts wanted their junior Catchment , so they have North Sydney and Central Coast and whoever else they decide to poach !
Gus never answered the question as to “what is your future vision of the NRL?” In fact none of them did. Does ANYONE have a long term vision?
No one has a clue
Western Brisbane should be the next team, Ipswich Jets is an easy solution
David Tramacchi That’s great. They should bring Newtown colours to Ipswich. Then the Jets will be reinstated as a Queensland side.
Sunshine Coast should be considered!
@@Will-nb8qk sunshine coast will be another gold coast wont be able to compete
@@Will-nb8qk If we're talking about adding another SEQ team, Redcliffe Dolphins are the obvious choice. Won the most, way more viable from a logistics stand point than either the Sunny Coast or Ipswich and plenty of room to expand their stadium capacity.
Lets be honest here. Channel 9 isn't interested in making rugby league bigger and better. The only place they are interested in growing the game is the NRL where it has a financial stake because its the major broadcaster. They could not give a rats backside about growing the game from grass roots level. Channel 9 is only interested in two things. Ratings and the money that brings from those paying for ad time during their broadcasts.
By all means, bring in a second team in Brisbane, even if it means having a bye each week, or also add a team in Perth or on the Central Coast or wherever. But don't relocate a Sydney club to do it because it will never work. Not only would they lose most of the fans they already have (case in point, North Sydney fans), but like anywhere, the locals in Brisbane would be much more likely to accept a team of their own whether it be an existing club like a Redcliffe or Ipswich or Sunshine Coast or a completely new club more than they ever will accept a relocated Sydney team.
Not enough talent for more teams.
@@sahulianhooligan7046 yes there is there plenty of players that can play first grade
No finals series. Model it on EPL. Add team in Samoa, Fiji and PNG. I'm Warriors fan but Gus is right NZ can't even do 1 x team right yet.
Tbh as someone that has watched the Premier League my whole life, the end of the season can start to feel meaningless and teams in the middle of the pack have nothing to play for really after February because you see the separation start to open up from Champions League and Europa League spots. A Finals system in the Premier League would make the tail end of the season so much more interesting, especially if you put European spots on the line for getting further through the Finals.
Having teams from Pacific Island nations would be great but the logistics of it would just be insane, especially considering those countries (and I don't mean this in an offensive way) aren't as developed as Australia or New Zealand when it comes to transport infrastructure etc.
I think some of the Sydney teams probably need to be removed and replaced by teams in new cities, which I know would be incredibly hard because of the fan bases they have developed but the talent level just isn't there to keep adding new teams. I think the Gold Coast may also end up falling into that category as well, especially if they don't have a huge turnaround in the next 3-4 years because they've achieved next to nothing.
True I didn't think about mid season games and teams having anything to play for potentially. Outside of that if it was an EPL style system Storm would have been way in front weeks before the final round. Possibly would be extra fun at the other end of the table if there was promotion relegation...
Nrl has put effort into helping the island nations. Next step could be their own teams. Port Moresby has a great stadium. 4 hours direct flight from Sydney and Suva has held Super Rugby games.
@Jon B get real mate. All those Pacific countries are poor 3rd world countries. Plus you have serious security issues with PNG. Never going to happen. lol!!!
1- Shorten Mel season. One game against each team - keep cap.
2- expand origin to Qld, new city, new country, indigenous, Pacific island (including NZ based NZ players) and expats (NZ & England players based in auz) - no cap.
3- charge downs don't restart the set of 6... Bring charge downs back to protect the kickers.
4- bring back shoulder charge.
Exactly! More teams in more places, more national competition. Like America has. Then the support for each club would be state wide instead of Sydney,Brisbane. The game needs to go national,with new teams in new places.
NFL only allows 1 team in 1 city.
So it gets the max amount of people.
For example they will okay every game 1 weekend in Brisbane, because it has a 40,000+ supporter base.
Gold coast struggles because there's 1 million people but you actually have around 8 so teams, all chasing after people.
Brisbane is the same but I think 2 Brisbane clubs will cause big problems than make it better
@@zagan1 derbies generate a lot of hype and competition creates better quality. People keep referring to the American sports but the biggest leagues are in Europe with promotion relegation. The American style only is good because it has more finals, finals generates big money.
Despite his hot takes i like gas he's very honest but also logical with what he suggested.
The players go to the Gold Coast for the wrong reasons ... night clubs, drugs and girls and the beach for recovery swims.
John Smith Sounds like good reasons to me hahahaha!! Jokes, you’re right though. Leadership group should help steering players away from all those temptations, easier said than done however.
NRL needs to accept the fact it ain't no.1. And reflect this with pay structure.
Step 1... Save money and become solvent.
If established teams cant make a profit, then expansion teams are doomed.
Manly should do what St George did with Wollongong, move to Central Coast play like 8 games in Gosford to 2 in Brookvale.
Why disillusion 250,000 people on the northern beaches, destroy 70 years of history, and leave the whole of northern Sydney without a team to give 300,000 people on the Central Coast a part time footy team. It's also already been tried and it didn't work (northern eagles). Either give the Central Coast Bears a shot, as it will feel like a new team or start from scratch completely.
I work at Brookvale oval in field and advertising set up. I'm there many hours before kick off and leave way after everyone else does. It would kill the area to move the Sea Eagles. So many people get up there for the games on the weekend. Guaranteed at least 14000 provided it isn't on a Thursday night, and the sound is huge.
How will it destroy anything, No one had a big winge at St George their club was the better for it.
Northern Sea Eagles was not a central coast merger it was a Merger with North Sydney bears.
Put it this way if this doesn't happen Manly are doomed long term.
Or another club in NZ. Wellington would be great!!!
I will never watch NRL again if they get rid of the Sea Eagles 🦅.. We have 8 premierships more than some teams
give PNG a team. a whole nation will support that team and finance it.
They’d have to attract some mainland players but who’d be keen on living in such a small isolated place???
@@anthonywillis7634 You have surely ISOLATED YOUR BRAIN FROM YOUR SKULL. Even u have isolated places in your own country... My Goodness
@@porgerapaiam2181: Like where numpty?? We aren’t talking about sports stars living in humpty doo ya pelican.
@@anthonywillis7634 Look mate.. I don't give a rats arse if your filthy rich... Or what problem or itch you might have on your Behind regarding PNG having a team in the NRL. We play for the passion and love we have for the brutality of the sport. Not for money, fame and riches like u do. We have our own land which we own by birthright to cater for that unlike you. Say what you wanna about us, ain't nothing wrong in being a rugby star and isolated in humpty doo ya pelican... Love us, Hate us... We're in the QRL..You should've done something to keep us out... Where were you when we came in.... Probably isolating your brain in some remote, dark and places in your head, I bet...
@@porgerapaiam2181 : No one is hating on PnG ya whackjob. Its about PNG being competitive enough. They won a QRL comp a couple of years ago but got ass whipped in the interstate challenge by a Penrith feeder club. Might have the passion but won’t attract crowds outside PNG, unless of course elite players are happy to live in PNG and competitive. Can’t see it happening squire TBH.
Gould just Pipped Gallen for ugliest on ground
Let's take a moment to consider that ash Klein and co awarded 22 penalties in the raiders/Storm final. Let's reflect on the fact only 23 penalties were awarded in all 3 other finals combined.
Gee that’s got a lot to do about what we’re talking about
A second team in Brisbane is not the way to go. People in Brisbane have grown up watching the broncos for most their life and if there’s suddenly a second Brisbane team added to the area, who would want to support it? Instead of adding to pre-existing areas where there are already fans of existing NRL clubs, why don’t the NRL add teams to new areas such as Adelaide or Perth and help spread the game and it’s reach. The AFL are miles ahead of the NRL in terms of management and the fact they were able to get over 80,000 people to attend a regular home and away game a few weeks back on a Friday night really says a lot.
We are a week out from finals and we are sat here talking about this save it for the end of season.
We've tried Adelaide and Perth before.
A big crowd for a one off game is easy, it's gotta happen every second week.
5days
A lot of locals hate the broncos that's my impression.
A new team should invigorate the local game
@Crazy prayingmantis No, keep dreaming bud. It's not easy with your joke League
Yep I live in Brisbane and I'm not fond of the Broncos !
Bloody American Logo ?
It would have been better back in the day if they had invited the Brisbane Clubs to join rather than making one annoying Team with no history.
That is what should have happened.
It's happening with Melbourne now but the thing is to put more teams in Melbourne there will be no expansion.
That's why it hasn't expanded because they want Qld and NZ players !
Unless the Big Teams concede a little the Game won't grow.
Look at English Super League it's a bit worse.
It's already a Premier League where only 3 or 4 Teams can win !
That's what they are trying to do to the NRL !
So it sucks and very wrong to relocate teams , it doesn't work and it won't , maybe in the AFL but not in League.
Same with merging teams there is another solution but they are brain dead.
If any Team should relocate it should be The Roosters because they are Tiny Club !
This problem wouldn't be around if Australia weren't so farkin big 😂
The US is just as big and it works there...
@@davemuckeye with the way the teams are so centralised in Sydney at the moment, a conference system would strongly disadvantage any club based outside Sydney. It would be good if you divide into North and south but then you'd have to have half the Sydney clubs in North and half in South.
I personally think the nrl should set some key performance benchmarks to maintain before 2022 and clubs that fail to meet these should be axed
Love the Manly Sea Eagles. Brookey needs a new stadium.
Part of the Head Injury Assessment in the NRL is asking someone if they like Manly. If they say Yes they have to go straight to hospital to get their head examined.
Delai Lama Haha. Compared to last year I’m on cloud nine. Des really turned us around.
@@usarugbyleagueunionfan Yeah, I'm glad my Broncos are playing the Eels instead of Manly at Brookvale next week.
Delai Lama...On reflection, I think you would have been better off playing manly lol
USA Rugby League Fan hey there friend, fancy meeting you here 9 months after this posted and showed up in my recommendation list 😂
Half the teams are broke, there's way too many teams in Sydney and the NRL wants to add another team. Give me a break.
Relegation. No cap.
- Not enough class for (17 teams)
- Should be a Perth team
- Only 12 teams (NRL no money)
- 5 teams Sydney ( N, S, E, W & C)
Just my view as an old supporter.
Times have changed, but can still run second tier feeder so as to keep local rivalry in Sydney. The Brisbane area do it, why can't Sydney, just needs some big balls.
H/A..22 rounds + finals...if tv/nrl still after money, bring back mid week n/o comp, with feeder clubs + nrl clubs on a Wednesday night.
Miss the old Amco cup..
Just to add, the second tier could bring back norths, newtown., balmain, wests, illawarra then up to them to survive...Just like the junior clubs...week in week out.
In Perth a lot of kiwi expats from the mining boom, before not so much in SL......(there! that's the second kiwi team sorted out that gus wants). haha...
They need another Brisbane team, but more importantly another NZ team based in Wellington, NZ. 30-40% of the NRL are New Zealanders or have ties through polynesian heritage. There are only 5 "real" pro rugby teams (super rugby) in new zealand for all of the countries talent to go to in order to make an ok living. This means that there are thousands of talented players who don't make the cut that are desperate and will run through brock walls for a contract. And we can't judge NZ based on The Warriors, as they are a lazy franchise who plays all their home games in Auckland showing that theyre are in their own greedy bubble. They have the Broncos similarities and culture atm.. but don't have a winning culture in their past like the Broncos had. League needs new talent and NZ has it in bundles from Union players that are underappreciated. More talent = more excitement and would build the international game up.
@@ejsmith9194yeah I agree , I reckon at least 2 more NZ teams, one in Wellington and one in Christchurch.
Imagine the Local Derby's 🔥 😏 That would lift the game in NZ and the Comp itself !
NRL simply does not have the crowd or viewer numbers for any kind of expansion at the top level. Soccer is expanding more rapidly for both viewer numbers and crowd numbers.
If you want to add something to Rugby League, then the best option is a cup competition like the FA cup is to the Premier League in an attempt to rebuild the dying grass roots club numbers in the traditional strongholds of the game.
No matter what is done, Rugby League will remain a niche football market, and , as such will not draw the kind of commercial attention AFL or Soccer will.
The changes in social dynamic over the last 40-50 years have altered the way society perceives masculine identity. This shift has left Rugby league in a space where its high impact, confrontational style is the polar opposite to this societal shift making consolidation of the code difficult, and expansion a suicide move. A 12 team professional league structure in tandem with a cup type competition is possibly the best move the NRL could make for its long term future.
@B Whit AFL has a nationwide, crowd drawing footprint. League does not. AFL is also doing very well adjusting rules and building a less violent perception within broader society.
Im not sure if NRL CAN adapt itself to modern social perception shifts, and given that it does not have the kind of entrenched Nationwide following that AFL does, i suspect it does not have an easy road ahead.
Dyrty Barstud yeah buts it’s still gay. PC community trying to run/ruin everything.
@@godnnat its not a so much a PC culture thing directly, its more related to the perception of thugery and poor treatment of women that have been problematic for the NRL. If players, media and club ownership had addressed these internal issues then the community perception of the sport would not have suffered to the same degree.
Poor management at all levels is the root cause of these issues, PC culture just magnifies the gap between NRL culture and current dominant social ideologies. AFL had the same issues as NRL in the 80s and 90s, but managed them well and rebuilt the perception of the brand very effectively. NRL cant seem to find a way to do this, and this may simply be because League is inherently violent in its construction.
You and i may see the beauty in the level of physical commitment, skill and bravery required to play this game. Others just see a bunch of louts on a field using a ball as an excuse to hurt each other.
Oh, and the whole gay thing. Im pretty sure that gay market appeal is one of the things saving the viewership of League, after all whats not to like about a bunch of buff hard guys throwing each other around for those that are into that kind of thing?
Dyrty Barstud afl should be way out in front, fairies with tight small shorts parading around together.. domestic violence is a problem across the board, not an afl or league thing. The fact our beloved media prefer to run theses stories is the reason behind perceptions. We are controlled and manipulated to believing certain agendas. Plain and simple!
@@godnnat Its the laying on top of each other and bucking in League that really is the connecting factor, but i digress.
AFL has managed media far better than League has and got out ahead of the sharp shift in social paradigm.
AFL and League are very different. AFL has been able to make rule changes that have made the game more skill and speed focused and reduced contact. They also took a very hard line with on field fights before League did.
The external factors you are blaming are only having an impact because League did not take the necessary steps when blind Freddy could see that society was moving away from confrontational sport.
What about a team in the Central West of NSW (Bathurst & Orange) big population, massive rugby league fans, wealth is out there- good mine in Orange could be the major sponsor. Plus it would be sold out every week as there is not much else to do out there
I love the idea of country teams, promotion relegation will give those teams a good chance. Years down the track there could be even 30 teams battling for the top league division
Sporting teams based at the Gold Coast do not seem to work. Both basketball and soccer have had teams there which have collapsed. Then you have the AFL and the NRL Gold Coast clubs which consistently perform below expectations. I really don't understand why the NRL keep propping up Gold Coast based teams and I think the Titans need to go.
Also biggest issue is that it sounds like rubgy isnt making that much money in Australia. Rarely see matches on regular tv and its the rights and sponsors that make the cash. The AFL could basically self fund another 1-2 clubs off their backs, doesn't sound like the NRL can. Comparably low attendance numbers and viewership kills the sport.
You get rid of my club, i stop watching the sport
No one cares about the Gold Coast Titans!
Well if the NRL are wanting to add a team, make going to games more affordable for families. Schedule games so families aren't having to stay up late to watch the games or commute. Don't take any teams out, maybe add another Victorian team or an Adelaide team. There's plenty of young up and coming talent. If they don't make it with the existing teams, why not form new clubs with those players? The NRL has the money to do a lot of things for the game. But it's greedy hands that aren't doing anything to help the game. Corporate greed is f****** it up.
Should of never got rid of the super league
Control the Roosters salary cap so other teams have a chance. Would have loved to see Cooper kronk, tedesco and Klemmer go to Titans
The roosters roster is ridiculous. How they continue to afford the players they have is extremely questionable. They’ve got to probe this club. Someone has got to have the balls to do it! It’s becoming ridiculous now. Cronk signing was the last straw!
@@Will-nb8qk they have a team of rep players whether it be Qland, NSW, kiwi, Tonga, City/Country. Teams like the titans don't stand a chance. Took tedesco from tigers and Cronk from storm.
@@Will-nb8qk well you should of thought of that before qld won its first origin series, and long before the broncos won their first grand final against a nsw team. The NRL is still, and will always be the NSWRL. So the favourite nsw club will always get the goods.
Yeah I read that they're allowed to spend more than the other Clubs because of the Pull ? Whatever that means ?.
It's obvious I always thought it anyway but to actually read it was gob smacking but not surprising 😮
I don't agree with relocating teams but if any team should relocate it's them. Tiny Club owned by a Billionaire !
scheduling wise like the afl the titans and broncos should not be both ant home or on the road on the same weekend instead if the broncos have a home game one weekend the titans should be on the road and then the following weekend the titans should be at home while the broncos are on the road
There should be some kind of quality standard for the players or coaches. Only get sacked or axed if you've consistently coached a team to the wooden spoon. Axe a player out of the club if he's consistently conceded penalties or dropped the ball.
They should expand into other states such as NT SA WA
Example
>Darwin red backs
>Adelaide bulls
>Perth devils
They're AFL country and it'll never change.
@@mytwosense9135 Perth definitely would have a market for an NRL team, especially since their only professional Rugby team (Western Force) don't play in the Premier competition in the sport anymore after their license got dropped.
@@mattnorris7124 it would be a very small market. I spent a week in Perth last year and I only saw 1 person wear anything relating to the NRL, compared to the countless people I saw wearing West Coast Eagles and Freo Dockers merch.
My idea: Add 4 new spots and realocate 3 teams from Sidney
Cities to expand: Adelaide, Sunshine Coast, Central Coast, Perth, Hobard, Darwin and Wellington
people hate on gus like he isn't the best insight into anything NRL
💯💯💯 18 teams, 2 pools. It makes sense!!!!!
Could work like the nba. Cool bro
Of course Channel 9 don't want more teams. Them and Uncle Rupert don't wanna pay the code what it would be worth with 18 teams.
Scrap the Roosters and the Storm and make the comp more competitive.
Are you serious? Did you hear how they were talking about history at the start of the video? Look up the history of Rugby League and tell me again the Roosters need to be removed from the comp. As for Melbourne, pull your head in. The Storm have set the blueprint to success in this competition and they have done it in the heart land of the AFL. Maybe instead of giving Melbourne the flick, the other 15 teams in the NRL should spend a bit of time studying the Melbourne Storm blueprint. By far the most ridiculous suggestion I've ever heard.
@@Mr4thQTR Get rid of them. They are too good and the standard of football they play is too high. How will you ever have a successful team at the Gold Coast or New Zealand with teams that good in the comp? Broncos are going to win the comp this year anyway, so maybe they should get rid of them as well. Have a 12 or 13 team competition.
Scrap the storm? With the 4th most amount of members, that’s clever
@@Mr4thQTR
Nicely said.
@@Mr4thQTRah ok Corporate Troll again 😂 Mate no one else will get the Storm Blueprint unless Rupert owns them. They're strong because they have to be so they make it that way. You must be Blind if you think it's the coaching and management.
Focus on getting all clubs at least breaking even before expansion. People love the League, surely it can't be that hard? Get more merchandise going, look at the American sports and how they all come dressed up with uniforms and show the club colours. We're not even remotely close to that level of commitment. Stadiums should offer some free tickets in the least popular seats (such as corners) to get better crowds, and of those free riders some will buy food/drinks and possibly merchandise. And as others have said, allow us to comment on NRL videos ffs!
Kira
Nrl are dumb will not give free entry when crowds are low
Free tickets at least means more food drinks bought and better atmosphere and will get people to the game that usually may not attend.
@@coasteyscoasteys They don't have creativity
Totally agree with the 2 team kiwi experience......atm, until they get the warriors sorted i would say no to a 2nd team HERE. And before i go on im a bears fan.
Excuse the exaggerations. There's too many teams in Sydney competing for the same sponsorship dollars.
There's far too many on 9's payroll running the dullest commentary on the game. Besides rabs on the odd occasions, nobody is actually calling the game anymore it's just dull after the fact calling. The camera work has gotten obscene and is difficult to watch on 9. Too many refs, too many games with penalty blowouts. Too expensive to get in to the footy for families. Too many games taken away from the fans and jammed pointlessly out at homebush (horrible stadium to watch footy)
Player salaries and caps are blowing out quicker than some clubs can keep up with.
There will never, ever, ever be a two division conference until the same emphasis is given to the grassroots level of footy as is given in many sports in the usa.
@Homer Simpson my word you would have. You can't have a game without the players, staff etc.. but you also can't have the NRL be what it is without the fans. It's high time the club's got on board with that. Glad to hear good things are happening in Canberra for the everyday bloke.
No one in Brisbane will support a second team.
Arnold
You are very wrong
The solution is to stop talking about expansion and start demanding better leadership/stewardship from all the clubs and the NRL as a whole.. Commercial viability is the responsibility of those in charge of the game, and the fans (who bankroll the sport) shouldn't have to suffer for their mismanagement...
Phill Gould couldnt even fix the panthers
Not enough talent? Gallen mate I think you’ve suffered too many blows to the head. My money would be on a second Brisbane team or a Sunshine Coast team, I personally would love Redcliffe for the NRL but given the history behind their failed bids I doubt it’ll ever happen sadly.
Here is a good idea and out there, what about a pre season competition in which the first half is played as rugby league and the second half played in rugby union, we could call it Union V league, this would invite both codes in like a weird state of Origin match up, hey the wallabies could use some league players but the NRL could use young prospects thinking that only Union is the game to play, the big problem is there is not a stage where you can see the diversity of a players abilities in both codes to know where the talent really is unless scouts are willing to be opened minded to watch the youth in both codes before they make it on the big stage, a comp like this would be intriguing for all just to see if union or league will take the title!
New Zealand could easily have another team. Rugby is our national sport, it's what we do. I understand the two are different (Union/League) but the emphasis and application is the same.
There is not enough 1st grade talent in NZ for another team
@@fanaticz666 plenty of talent. New Zealand is a melting pot of rugby talent. We couldn't be luckier. Why do you think the majority of the NRL is kiwis?
@@thedappercook all that kiwi talent in the nrl is not in nz though they are overseas. There is no development programme good enough at producing 1st grade in nz. Nz 2nd team would have no players good enogh, best bet is to relocate a sydney team to christchurch or wellington but even then NZRL have no money.
Maybe people are just sick of watching grossly overpaid players underperform. Maybe the lack of player club loyalty is a huge problem. Maybe Sydney isn't the working class, beer guzzling, footy watching boganville it needs to be to support 9 teams. Maybe reliance on pokie revenue and a real lack of business leadership at our clubs is a problem.
Of course there is enough talent to go around. Plenty of fringe players looking for a chance, up and coming talent and plenty of experienced players wanting their last deal. Gallen is about as clever as a condom with speedholes
Kinda makes ya wonder how the Melbourne storm have been so successful for so long? Are they the only team that are making money?
good management, the manchester city of the NRL
@Maori Boy they're still cheating. They corrupt the play the ball and NRL let's them because they scared to discipline Cam Smith. He has goons that break necks!
😂 How would be Melbourne be so successful if they didn't want that to happen !
They were trying to sell the game to Victorian's so the best way to do that is make them a powerful team every bloody year. It's not fun to watch anymore Sydney and Melbourne just have to be Bigger because of their names the worst thing is Sydney is really Eastern Suburbs ?
The Dirty Rich always gets there way even if the product is suffering because of them !
Grow the game with better public relations, not more teams.
Advertise the players for who they are.
Highlight their social media & in person comments, try celebrations and dramatise their on-field character. If a player is known as a thug, advertise him as a thug, give him a personality to follow and talk about.
Grow the game at grassroots.
Living in Melbourne every year we had a footy (AFL) day in primary school. You'd come to school dressed in your teams guernsey and competed in a series of small games for the entire day. ALL of it was funded by the AFL.
Change rules to make the game more exciting.
BRING BACK THE SHOULDER CHARGE.
Community off-season.
The AFL has the JLT community series which is their pre-season comp. Games are played in regional towns and more local venues, allowing fans outside of the big cities to watch their teams compete.
If you want to conquer new markets you should stop blocking your highlight videos for us europeans.
You must be new to the Channel 9 Videos. Like most media, comments = Criticism and they can't handle even the slightest. They'd cry if you told them there car needed a wash.
Toowoomba - Swap hill stadium. Make it happen.
100% Toowoomba have to be there , should have been there years ago.
Screw him
Cause of him Penrith has lost chance of being in finals last year and this year also.
This didn't age well
AFL did it right, does it right
Always have, always will
Maybe the Bulldogs being that Sydney based team should relocate to the South Island of New Zealand in a region that is known as “Canterbury” to ease the pressure on the Warriors that really is only an Auckland region based team and not only that Canterburys union brother in The Super Rugby known as the Crusaders being so dominant to take the NRL to that advantage level of balance in order in the sense to boost popularity of the sport at least for that heartland part in Christchurch NZ for some of the Bulldogs home games to see how it may go since this topic is on debate.
Not a bad idea aye ... Just delete bankstown and theres a 2nd nz nrl team
They'd still get away Sydney games and maybe a Belmore game here and there!
PNG PNG PNG PNG PNG
Within 3 years PNG would own the competition. Whiteys in admin don't want that.
SPEAKS SENSE!
Bring back the original Super League idea? The best, and most profitable, clubs from the UK and Australasia battling it out for who is the best club in the world
Shocked that a bunch of Sydney pundits are against relocating Sydney clubs...
Get a Perth team started up and something in adelaide. Every major capital city in Australia should have a league team. Dont see why Melbourne shouldnt have a 2nd team or ag least try it out. Queensland may be rubgy mad but a 2nd team in Brisbane doesnt guarantee people will follow it and the titans are there anyway. Its not like its top of Queensland vs the bottom or anything.
We cannot re-locate a team we could most definitely put another team in Queensland the only thing that they could re-locate with enough support a bass is South Sydney But that will never happen just give Queensland another team
Make another team in new Zealand, put it in Wellington it will devide new Zealand supporters there's enough kiwi expats in nz to make the team financially sound. Plus competition is good for the nz warriors
Cain Bradley - Wellington are horrible at supporting sport. Chch would work better
@@TeTai-u2c They'd need a better stadium first.
@@TeTai-u2c Wellington sounds a lot like the Gold Coast, which is ironic because there are a lot of Kiwis that live there.
@@maccaspope2275 the cake tin is in a great location but is the wrong shape, if a wellington NRL sides helps the Phoenix get a smaller stadium built im for it
Move the titans to the Northern Territory.
This same experiment failed in the Super Rugby competition.