The 890 Duke R weighs 166Kg dry and 188kg ready to race , but yeah it has around the same power and also the same suspension , I don't get it , seems they made a competition for there own Duke 890R , I like de 890 head light better .
No more 890 duke, 790 duke stays! The sound of this 990 is awesome but I am skeptic about the reliability. After having two 790 dukes in 3 seasons and both leaked a lot of oil from everywhere I am not convinced in any duke anymore. Expensive repairs and lots of stress due oil leaks.
As with the 890 Duke and all manufacturers engines now days they Have to make it euro 346 compliant and the bikes are very lean and conservative from the factory…you have to get them tuned and breathed on and then they put out a lot more than advertised. They run so hot and lean with the exhausts and tune from factory, especially Below 4/5 thousand rpm’s. Its amazing what Rottweiler performance or a good tune can do for these bikes. The 990 will put out even more with a little help.
Me too Those front brakes look puny compared to the 320mm Brembo discs/calipers on the original and We get fully adjustable WP suspension front and rear. Specs do look good on paper its lighter and makes more power. I like that it is lower too . . that's actually a huge + . . . but they should have pulled the weight from something other than the front brakes IMO. That's one thing that works on the old 990 better than any bike I've ever ridden.
Awesome detailed presentation and excellent testing again, Rok. 🤘👌 That's what we want to see. I love your videos and I already love the new Sniper. Looks even better than the Scalpel. And excellent technical upgrades, too. Amazing that the 990 is even lighter than the 890 R. And it is cool that they offer the performance and track mode for the first 1500km to make the decision easier but I would take the full features anyway.😉 Keep on riding and creating, mate. Your channel truly rocks.🤘
Lighter ? The 890R does 169 dry, the 990 179 according to the specs I found. You have to search for them cause KTM always hides specs on the product page they don't want you to focus on.
@@wernerxldata Yes, I already searched other sites for it, but the 179 kg is not the dry weight of the 990, it is the ready to ride weight without the fuel. Fully fueled the 990 weighs about 190kg, wheras the 890 R weighs about 186kg fully fueled. Thus the 890R is indeed lighter. It was a bit misleading in the video. PS: Now I found the dry weight of the 990. Interestlingy it is indicated as 169kg, too, on the KTM dealer website.
I'm not sure how I'm feeling about the headlights, I own an 890R and I feel like my bike didn't lose any value the specs are practically the same so I'm struggling to see the point of the 990 engine. Maybe the R version will be more exciting, if not I'll hold off until they release an RC990
@@CobGeorge I still love my 890R, too, and it will never loose any value for me, even if there are better KTMs out there. 😉I would rather add a Super Duke to my collection than replace my 890 R with the 990. However, I am curious about a 990 R version, too. I think the headlights look cool, but it gets tedious to clear them of any attached insects in summer.
Can't wait to watch all the 790 vs 890 vs 990 vids and read forum opnions. Sadly, if this is an all new engine, we're gonna have to wait a few years (AGAIN!) to see if it's reliable. IMO, since they had the 690 single, I'm not really sure they needed the 790 at all. They could've started with the 890 or maybe even this 990 as a bridge between then 690 and the SuperDuke. I ALSO don't think they needed to make the SuperDuke bigger, but the 990 might have been to close to it while the 890 might've been still to close to the 690 to truly be a definitive jump up from it. IMO we really DO need something to be in the 800cc-1000cc twin class to come back. RC51 days were sick. Bikes weighed less than a 600, had the HP of a 750, and the torque of a 1000. That's where some of the best sport-oriented riding can be had, IMO. *EDIT:* Just did the math and the 690 is roughly 0.73 the displacement of the 990, and the 990 will have about 0.7 the 1390, so those are nice even jumps. But to make the jump DOWN to a smaller bike than the 690, we'd need a "490" to be perfectly even in terms of a displacement difference.
KTM doesn't start from scratch every time a new engine is developed, especially in the parallel twin class since the first release of the 790. Years and trials and corrections later, this 947cc engine isn't a clean sheet. It's new and specific, but KTM have learned a lot about parallels by this point. Seem I remember 490 rumors some years ago and KTM never went through with it. Maybe with the Aprilia RS457 coming out, the updated Kawasaki 451cc parallel engine (Ninja 500, Eliminator), KTM will get a burr under the saddle and release a 490.
They should have upped the power for this one, and made it around like 140hp. Because I'm going for either a 790 or an 890R pretty soon, it looks better and is proven.
I had both, if you can afford it, pick the 890R. The suspension is way better and the brakes are awesome. 790 is not a bad bike in any way but the 890R is a big step forward.
@@wernerxldata thanks. What's the reliability like. I'm getting one soon, will be my first road bike, but I'm an experienced enduro rider who loves to ride, so it won't be like I'm clueless, debating whether I save some money and get a 790, or just go for a second hand 890R or 890GP
@@moreliquorinmycoffee First versions had some issues, I never experienced any on both the 790 and the 890. My experience with ktm support is also ofroad (motocross) and they've had issues with their mx bikes as well in some years, while there's no warranty on a mx bike everything was always fixed by ktm and their dealers. I think it helps if you have an active and good dealer. Problems are common in new technology, not just with ktm, my experience is they fix their problems and after 12 years of riding ktm, me and my son, we never experienced major problems, no races missed. I would by a second hand 790/890 without a doubt, although I would skip the introduction year bikes to be sure.
@moreliquorinmycoffee I did the same. Trying to save money and purchased a 790. After 2 months, I traded in for 890 R. Get the 890 R you won't regret it.
It would be nice of you if you'll make a more detailed video on the characteristics, impressions on road, features, etc... of this new 990 (we could see you on shorts riding it on the road...). Since you have the privilege of having it concretely in preview (and the only one apparently)... Please😉!! However, nice video, thank you for sharing it!
all nice and neat.. but how much do they turn off after insert x amount of KMs? Edit, nm, won't even say which they turn off and which they don't... good, I hope my TCS/ABS aren't up on the chopping block. Can you tell I am bitter about this? I hope you can. Next thing they are going to install heated grips and charge a monthly premium to use them.
thanks for this. I have had two harleys now but want to change up what I am used to. I am debating a middle weight naked bike, is the 790 version a lot weaker than this?
Love the bike, best commercial it can have. But, what's up with the rearlights? how we mount oure short plate holder now. Please ktm(and bmw) just use a normal good looking rear light.
No quickshifter, more weight and same power as the 890? Why? Why not make it 140 hp or something to fill in the space between the 890 and 1290 duke. And the headlight is atrocious.
so if the duke 890 is no longer in production I'm screwed when it comes to parts since the the 890 LC8c is no more. only 790 and 990 continuing on for 2024. i wonder if my 890 blows up if ktm will just swap it with the 790 engine since they are basically the same?
i would say the 890R engine is closer to the 990engine (when it comes to CC and engine output, power ect.) ... hopefully KTM wont be assholes and then give us a 990 engine or even a 990bike rather than the good but not compareable 790 engine ... tho i prefer the 890R speaking of better brakes, suspension ect over the 990.
Great bike i cant wait to try. But hey, 15k€ without tech pack while new MT09 come with all these features included and at 4k€ less... Even the SP with ohlins, Brembo, dlc coating and keyless is a lot less expensive. Money is not an issue for me at this range of price but it will be for most riders.. weird choice from ktm.
Weighs more than the 890...only 3 hp more....and still have features behind a pay wall....Only thing I like over my 890 R.....the exhaust is somewhat better but I can see scraping it on the track and how much does this exhaust weigh? Not a fan of the bigger screen..I don't watch TV when I ride and just something expensive to replace from a mishap on the track....
If I undrstood correctly, the 990 is lighter than the 890R. It only weighs 179 kg fully fueled and ready to ride. The 890 R is 186 kg, isn't it? I still love my 890 R, but this new design is ace, too.
@@hdi4eva-castlesbydrone531 890 Duke R weighs 366 lbs. (166 kg.) 990 Duke weighs 393 lbs. (179 kg.) The standard 890 Duke weighs 372.6 lbs. (169.3 kg.) 990 only has 3 more hp.
@@justmyself1000 I think you got it wrong. 890 Duke R is 186 kg fully fueled and ready to ride. 166kg is only the dry weight. 990 weighs 179kg ready to ride. Don't know what it's dry weight is. It was not mentioned in the video. Or is 179kg the dry weight and it was wrongly mentioned in the video? Who knows. PS: I have checked other sites and it looks like the weight of the 990 is indeed 190kg fully fueled. Thus it is kind of misleading in the video.
Glad that we have Rok Bagoros on board. Every new KTM is immediately tested and reviewed. Thanks Rok !
Not every ktm. Mostly dukes
So it has around the same power of the 890 Duke, weighs more and they take away your quickshifter etc. if you dont pay them?
Techpack pay online😂
The 890 Duke R weighs 166Kg dry and 188kg ready to race , but yeah it has around the same power and also the same suspension , I don't get it , seems they made a competition for there own Duke 890R , I like de 890 head light better .
One would think they will anounce a 990R pretty soon. The right comparison would be between the 115hp 890 (not the R) vs the 125hp 990 😉
890 Duke also came with Brembo Stylema.
890 all the way
7:24 that stoppie to reverse bunny hop was badass! Never seen anyone do that on a bike of this size. Maybe it's the rider. Awesome
Bro does almost everything in this bike that he does on 125🔥pure skills
No more 890 duke, 790 duke stays! The sound of this 990 is awesome but I am skeptic about the reliability. After having two 790 dukes in 3 seasons and both leaked a lot of oil from everywhere I am not convinced in any duke anymore. Expensive repairs and lots of stress due oil leaks.
you KTM for you in a nutshell
My man Rok got first dibs on the 990 Duke 🔥 Detailed and adrenaline pumping review as always
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Truly a BEASTY looks😍😍
First like Along with first Comment🎉
Thank God I will buy one for myself
Props to The designers of KTM bikes... I mean they look so cool
Ktm Duke never cease to Amaze. RockOn 🤘
Until the engine seizes 😂
Is a toothbrush included to clean the headlight from mosquitoes?
Lovebugs! 😳
As with the 890 Duke and all manufacturers engines now days they Have to make it euro 346 compliant and the bikes are very lean and conservative from the factory…you have to get them tuned and breathed on and then they put out a lot more than advertised. They run so hot and lean with the exhausts and tune from factory, especially Below 4/5 thousand rpm’s. Its amazing what Rottweiler performance or a good tune can do for these bikes. The 990 will put out even more with a little help.
2:45 I remember Harley was one of the first to popularize those integrated stop lights which are now popular in many sport bikes
Crazy machine🤖
Look like beast ✨👽
This looks awesome, i seriously can't wait for them to reveal the 2024 1390R though.
Look forward to Twin cylinder‘s Duke 690.
I love their black on orange display screen.
Proper Rok thing OK! Sounds good to me🤩🤣
*All new rc 2024 Fake & orginal* 👍 😂😍
I'll keep my old Superduke 990!
Me too Those front brakes look puny compared to the 320mm Brembo discs/calipers on the original and We get fully adjustable WP suspension front and rear. Specs do look good on paper its lighter and makes more power. I like that it is lower too . . that's actually a huge + . . . but they should have pulled the weight from something other than the front brakes IMO. That's one thing that works on the old 990 better than any bike I've ever ridden.
one of the best motorcycle ktm ever made
This colour with the orange wheels would have been awesome
so cool, thanks for the video and it was really nice to meet you at EICMA 😊🙌🏽 looking forward to 2024 🧡✊🏽
Awesome detailed presentation and excellent testing again, Rok. 🤘👌 That's what we want to see. I love your videos and I already love the new Sniper. Looks even better than the Scalpel. And excellent technical upgrades, too. Amazing that the 990 is even lighter than the 890 R. And it is cool that they offer the performance and track mode for the first 1500km to make the decision easier but I would take the full features anyway.😉 Keep on riding and creating, mate. Your channel truly rocks.🤘
Lighter ? The 890R does 169 dry, the 990 179 according to the specs I found.
You have to search for them cause KTM always hides specs on the product page they don't want you to focus on.
@@wernerxldata Yes, I already searched other sites for it, but the 179 kg is not the dry weight of the 990, it is the ready to ride weight without the fuel. Fully fueled the 990 weighs about 190kg, wheras the 890 R weighs about 186kg fully fueled. Thus the 890R is indeed lighter. It was a bit misleading in the video. PS: Now I found the dry weight of the 990. Interestlingy it is indicated as 169kg, too, on the KTM dealer website.
I'm not sure how I'm feeling about the headlights, I own an 890R and I feel like my bike didn't lose any value the specs are practically the same so I'm struggling to see the point of the 990 engine. Maybe the R version will be more exciting, if not I'll hold off until they release an RC990
@@CobGeorge I still love my 890R, too, and it will never loose any value for me, even if there are better KTMs out there. 😉I would rather add a Super Duke to my collection than replace my 890 R with the 990. However, I am curious about a 990 R version, too. I think the headlights look cool, but it gets tedious to clear them of any attached insects in summer.
This is so nice it got the suzuki headlight hahahahaha 😂
2024 would be propper gun battle CBR 600RR, new Duke, new 8S etc.
Can't wait to watch all the 790 vs 890 vs 990 vids and read forum opnions. Sadly, if this is an all new engine, we're gonna have to wait a few years (AGAIN!) to see if it's reliable. IMO, since they had the 690 single, I'm not really sure they needed the 790 at all. They could've started with the 890 or maybe even this 990 as a bridge between then 690 and the SuperDuke. I ALSO don't think they needed to make the SuperDuke bigger, but the 990 might have been to close to it while the 890 might've been still to close to the 690 to truly be a definitive jump up from it.
IMO we really DO need something to be in the 800cc-1000cc twin class to come back. RC51 days were sick. Bikes weighed less than a 600, had the HP of a 750, and the torque of a 1000. That's where some of the best sport-oriented riding can be had, IMO.
*EDIT:* Just did the math and the 690 is roughly 0.73 the displacement of the 990, and the 990 will have about 0.7 the 1390, so those are nice even jumps. But to make the jump DOWN to a smaller bike than the 690, we'd need a "490" to be perfectly even in terms of a displacement difference.
KTM doesn't start from scratch every time a new engine is developed, especially in the parallel twin class since the first release of the 790. Years and trials and corrections later, this 947cc engine isn't a clean sheet. It's new and specific, but KTM have learned a lot about parallels by this point.
Seem I remember 490 rumors some years ago and KTM never went through with it.
Maybe with the Aprilia RS457 coming out, the updated Kawasaki 451cc parallel engine (Ninja 500, Eliminator), KTM will get a burr under the saddle and release a 490.
I liked the indicator/rear light. But I have that already on my 890R 😂
The rear end can be cool when cleaned up.
wich rear light did you install ?
Nothing like flimsy stalks sticking out in the breeze with tiny lights in them.
What happens when air creeps directly in to the headlight when there is no glass protection to sweep the wind upwards
Air hits the headlight? What’s your question?
aerodynamics isnt a single execution bruh It can be executed in many ways
@@ruskimofia That creates DRAG which isn't optimal
@@clickbaitprodrag is not a consideration on a naked bike. Not even a little bit.
Just looking at 44 and after second beep you come with real test 🤣
Bro.. you are a champ❤... Getting to ride all the Dukes first hand...❤
The undertakers still have a bright future 😂
I love the new headlight ❤
Fast as .....🔥🔥
What a look, man, ktm just wow.....
Instant subscriber here. Good overview of the Duke.
❤ Super cool
Just looking like a wow😊
look forward to upgrading from my 390 duke! the 990 duke looks awesome man!
One More new beast for duke family ❤ from tamizh nadu 🇮🇳
coming to india??
@@GHOST.VNope
@@ChrisBOMtoATL expected
990 Indian market possible only for dream 😁
Ngl that new front is hella insane aggressive
You have the best job in the world.
I'm in love with the 890, wish I'll test 990 soon!
Rok, amazing review!
KTM Krazy tech machine 😍
Suppop❤🇳🇵
Lovely bike
Menace 🔥
4.7 litre for 100 km , that's pretty impressive dude
Congrats on scooping the first, first ride video! Braaaaap!
You are insane ✌️
The headlight designer was high 😂😂😂
I am India🇮🇳 Brother❤ KTM Lover❤
What's up with those cheaper generic KTM brakes? No brembos?
Man, don't you get it's not the R version?
Wow you are a great rider!
wow! Nice video-a lot to learn from you!
Thank you! Cheers!
Love the bike but the headlight HAS to go.
Yep, it's ugly as fuck 😇
Can you show how the wheelie control works in action?
They should have upped the power for this one, and made it around like 140hp. Because I'm going for either a 790 or an 890R pretty soon, it looks better and is proven.
I had both, if you can afford it, pick the 890R. The suspension is way better and the brakes are awesome. 790 is not a bad bike in any way but the 890R is a big step forward.
@@wernerxldata thanks. What's the reliability like. I'm getting one soon, will be my first road bike, but I'm an experienced enduro rider who loves to ride, so it won't be like I'm clueless, debating whether I save some money and get a 790, or just go for a second hand 890R or 890GP
@@moreliquorinmycoffee First versions had some issues, I never experienced any on both the 790 and the 890. My experience with ktm support is also ofroad (motocross) and they've had issues with their mx bikes as well in some years, while there's no warranty on a mx bike everything was always fixed by ktm and their dealers. I think it helps if you have an active and good dealer.
Problems are common in new technology, not just with ktm, my experience is they fix their problems and after 12 years of riding ktm, me and my son, we never experienced major problems, no races missed.
I would by a second hand 790/890 without a doubt, although I would skip the introduction year bikes to be sure.
@@wernerxldata appreciated man. Thank you
@moreliquorinmycoffee I did the same. Trying to save money and purchased a 790. After 2 months, I traded in for 890 R. Get the 890 R you won't regret it.
Parallel twins are just all over the place.
There cheap to produce
Did i understand correctly, after 1500km you will lose some features on the bike and have to pay to get those back...?
Everything is fine but the headlight tho🙂
That's one sharp looking bike.
Hi Rok, comparison to 890duke r, what’s your thought?
Whats the KTM jacket you are wearing?
The looks are soooo gooood for me...but i've 890r 2023, i prefer wait a 990 r version for Better brake, suspension and HP...
I prefer my 890r on first looks
Everyone seems to prefer the older Kim designs when new ones come out but slowly grows on them
@@Brawn_OG nah, not this one
It would be nice of you if you'll make a more detailed video on the characteristics, impressions on road, features, etc... of this new 990 (we could see you on shorts riding it on the road...). Since you have the privilege of having it concretely in preview (and the only one apparently)... Please😉!!
However, nice video, thank you for sharing it!
Hermosa 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Everything is good but the headlight is little odd looks like it borrowed hit from Suzuki🧐
Say something about duke 490
all nice and neat.. but how much do they turn off after insert x amount of KMs?
Edit, nm, won't even say which they turn off and which they don't... good, I hope my TCS/ABS aren't up on the chopping block. Can you tell I am bitter about this? I hope you can. Next thing they are going to install heated grips and charge a monthly premium to use them.
Do you think they are going to make duke 990 gt?
It does look so footuristik. 😆
I think they're inspired by cyberpunk 😂
thanks for this. I have had two harleys now but want to change up what I am used to. I am debating a middle weight naked bike, is the 790 version a lot weaker than this?
Love the bike, best commercial it can have.
But, what's up with the rearlights? how we mount oure short plate holder now.
Please ktm(and bmw) just use a normal good looking rear light.
賛否両論あるが新しいモデルを出してくれることに感謝。ミドルクラスでは890DUKE Rがベストだね。
@RokBagorosStuntrider - link to hat purchase?
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The SuperDuke is amazing. The Duke 390 is great.
KTM need one bangin' mid-ranger. Not a zillion options that look the same.
The head light looks sooo big.
I prefer V2 head light.
In my opinion
No quickshifter, more weight and same power as the 890? Why? Why not make it 140 hp or something to fill in the space between the 890 and 1290 duke. And the headlight is atrocious.
Super!
Please ktm for god sake bring this badboy to india 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Love it
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
i love KTM, just wish I could afford one...
so if the duke 890 is no longer in production I'm screwed when it comes to parts since the the 890 LC8c is no more. only 790 and 990 continuing on for 2024. i wonder if my 890 blows up if ktm will just swap it with the 790 engine since they are basically the same?
i would say the 890R engine is closer to the 990engine (when it comes to CC and engine output, power ect.) ... hopefully KTM wont be assholes and then give us a 990 engine or even a 990bike rather than the good but not compareable 790 engine ... tho i prefer the 890R speaking of better brakes, suspension ect over the 990.
First like and comment
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Count how many times he say : and..... ya. and......ya. and.... ya😂
How would you compare this to the 890 r?
I hope someday that KTM sort their quality issues out
Great bike i cant wait to try. But hey, 15k€ without tech pack while new MT09 come with all these features included and at 4k€ less...
Even the SP with ohlins, Brembo, dlc coating and keyless is a lot less expensive.
Money is not an issue for me at this range of price but it will be for most riders.. weird choice from ktm.
Hmmm interesting 🤔
Weighs more than the 890...only 3 hp more....and still have features behind a pay wall....Only thing I like over my 890 R.....the exhaust is somewhat better but I can see scraping it on the track and how much does this exhaust weigh? Not a fan of the bigger screen..I don't watch TV when I ride and just something expensive to replace from a mishap on the track....
If I undrstood correctly, the 990 is lighter than the 890R. It only weighs 179 kg fully fueled and ready to ride. The 890 R is 186 kg, isn't it? I still love my 890 R, but this new design is ace, too.
@@hdi4eva-castlesbydrone531 890 Duke R weighs 366 lbs. (166 kg.) 990 Duke weighs 393 lbs. (179 kg.) The standard 890 Duke weighs 372.6 lbs. (169.3 kg.) 990 only has 3 more hp.
@@justmyself1000 I think you got it wrong. 890 Duke R is 186 kg fully fueled and ready to ride. 166kg is only the dry weight. 990 weighs 179kg ready to ride. Don't know what it's dry weight is. It was not mentioned in the video. Or is 179kg the dry weight and it was wrongly mentioned in the video? Who knows. PS: I have checked other sites and it looks like the weight of the 990 is indeed 190kg fully fueled. Thus it is kind of misleading in the video.
@@hdi4eva-castlesbydrone531 I tried to post links...but they got taken down...just google it. The 990 weighs more.
I l❤ve ktm bikes..but for me the best name for this duke990 is "THE PREDATOR"because it looks like a predator that there is no mask..😊😊😊
Headlight I don't like it but the rest i like it
When we'll going to see it in India
Front headlight is flies and mosquitoes collector
How do you do stoppies when the ABS can be disabled only at the rear wheel? :O
It works somehow when I turn of the traction control ;)