We need steel, so it makes a lot of sense to produce it ourselves. For this we need coal, so it also makes a lot of sense to use our own. This gives Brits jobs and saves the greenhouse gas emissions caused my transport. It's hard to see the argument against this.
brilliant news i am cumbrian and it will be a welcome industry on the west coast of cumbria.it makes no differance burning cumbrian coal or coal from abroad. your burning the same amount of coal to make the steel without the ships bringing coal from abroad
Unfortunately, the thoughtless and mindless masses are the largest segment of the population worldwide. Non-fuel applications of complex hydrocarbons won't cease being very necessary anytime soon, thus oil and coal aren't going away completely either.
So Swedish company, Hybrit has already delivered Green Steel (steel made with hydrogen instead of Coal) to truck-maker Volvo AB as a trial run before full commercial production in 2026. 'Global Britain' looking backwards instead of forwards as usual. 🙄
@@lloydnaylor6113 Hence the need for hydrogen storage... rock caverns are being blasted out and the plan is to have enough storage for 3 days so they can produce hydrogen predominantly when the electricity is cheap because it's windy. Sometimes the UK has 15 GW from wind, right now it's 3. We also have 3 GW from wind right now.
@@zapfanzapfan do you think China or India give a toss about caverns, hydrogen storage etc? 3gw , so the coal fired power stations, gas power stations will be firing up more to make up the shortfall.
@@lloydnaylor6113 What India and China do is their problem, if they choke to death on smog so be it. In my local case, more water is let out in the hydro power plants when the wind isn't blowing but you do you.
1000 miners eating 1 meal a day at 30p a meal, works out at £300 per day I think Lee Anderson is on to something. I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say.
Why can we not have any industry in this country we need it for security, infrastructure and our own needs we need to make our own things you cannot rely on other countries in an unstable world
Good news about the mine.The talk about Carbon free steel is probably for a long time to come nothing but a dream.In Sweden there's an ongoing project "Hybrit" which is questioned by more and more people,due to extremely high costs and the need for enourmos amount of energy.And last but not least,It's also impossible to compete today with a product so much more expensive per ton,dispite its green label.As long as other stays with traditional productionmethods.We should develop the technic,but it should be done in lab scale.
One the one hand it is true that steel can be produced without the use of coal, on the other hand it's also true that energy is currently a bottleneck in the economy. That leaves me to ask how much effort would go into converting the current steel producing infrastructure from using coal to using another source and how much effort would it take starting up that coal mine. If it's going to be too much effort to starting a new coal mine and to be economical it needs to run for many years to come, then maybe it's better not to do it. If it's going to be easy to just get some extra coal for now and switching to something else when something else will be more available, producing some British coal could be a temporary solution. Thinking of it as creating jobs while it's temporary isn't very durable. I am being pragmatic when it comes to climate change because there also need to be an actual economy to speak of. I also think that the pollution from coal could be filtered and processed, so while it may sound horrible, it could be livable to keep using coal a little longer.
It is so ironic, and predictable, the people who are blindly protesting about the mine opening, are mostly retired, and have a very healthy income, and above all, must lead,a very privileged, and boring lifestyle, so have to ally themselves to a cause, to justify their existence, people of Cumbria need the jobs this mine will generate, and kickstart the economy in Cumbria, raise a family, and above all, have the dignity of being employed, the "protesters", do not have a grasp of reality, of what it is like to be skint, and struggle with daily life, because they are insulated in their own "colonial missionary bubble", brainwashed into thinking, they know better than anyone else, the facts are, the u.k., imports, 4million tons of coal a year, from China, and south America, where the workers are exploited, conditions, and safety standards, are non-exsistant, and child labour is widespread, then, their is the Carbon footprint,to transport the coal, to the u.k., the protesters never mention that fact, to summarize, I sincerely believe, that their is a "air" of snobbery about all this, and "nimby" is at the forefront, the protesters are not locals, they do not want the lake District to have a coal mine, perhaps it might de-value their 2nd house up here, Cumbria has a proud mining heritage, the pit is going ahead, and will open, just let these idiots keep on reading the guardian, and hug the trees, and they are not friends of the working class, they are the enemy within.
Green production, green straight jacket we only produce 1% of global emissions and its not long before the global climate catastrophe is going to have to be put against the wall and held to account
While the rest of the world is trying to abolish this dirtiest of industrial fuels, glorious Brexit Island stays true to its conviction to shift all gears backwards into a nostalgic past where it was every British man's God-given right and indeed pride to die horribly of a coal lung at the age of 45! Rule Britannia!
Not true. Wood burning is far worse for the amount of energy released and the preferred method of the middle classes to reduce their fuel bills. Used on an industrial scale the results are far worse than coal.
We need steel, so it makes a lot of sense to produce it ourselves. For this we need coal, so it also makes a lot of sense to use our own. This gives Brits jobs and saves the greenhouse gas emissions caused my transport. It's hard to see the argument against this.
Agree 100%.But the green lobby think its far better to import it from Russia
"saves the greenhouse gas emissions caused my transport."
You have not thought this through have you... And the coal gets exported.
Excellent, this calls for a day of national celebration.
Infrastructure boom? Where lol.
It's sending the wrong message to anyone under the age of 40.
brilliant news i am cumbrian and it will be a welcome industry on the west coast of cumbria.it makes no differance burning cumbrian coal or coal from abroad. your burning the same amount of coal to make the steel without the ships bringing coal from abroad
Way to go Marra
Only problem is it can't be used here, so nothing changes!
Excellent news.
Absolutely
A step in the right direction!
please explain how this is?
Lock up the glue & beware of flooding the bed wetters are in full on freak out mode.
Unfortunately, the thoughtless and mindless masses are the largest segment of the population worldwide. Non-fuel applications of complex hydrocarbons won't cease being very necessary anytime soon, thus oil and coal aren't going away completely either.
"People are not going to be quitting smoking anytime soon so we might as well start pushing for more cigarette use"?
This is such a vote winner. Hopefully we’re starting to move in the right direction.
We can't use the coal here, so I can't understand where is it going?
"Greenest coal mine" is like the "healthiest cigarette".
100%, this is dumb as bricks.
Obviously we need the coal for the new year celebrations!
Mine it and make steel, the greens are driving us back. The presumption that every other country is reducing emissions is laughable
Get Woke. Go Broke.
The world is full of trickery ....
So Swedish company, Hybrit has already delivered Green Steel (steel made with hydrogen instead of Coal) to truck-maker Volvo AB as a trial run before full commercial production in 2026. 'Global Britain' looking backwards instead of forwards as usual. 🙄
I agree with your stance but where do they get the hydrogen from? It requires a lot of energy to produce.
Hence the enormous wind power expansion.
@@lloydnaylor6113 Hence the need for hydrogen storage... rock caverns are being blasted out and the plan is to have enough storage for 3 days so they can produce hydrogen predominantly when the electricity is cheap because it's windy.
Sometimes the UK has 15 GW from wind, right now it's 3. We also have 3 GW from wind right now.
@@zapfanzapfan do you think China or India give a toss about caverns, hydrogen storage etc? 3gw , so the coal fired power stations, gas power stations will be firing up more to make up the shortfall.
@@lloydnaylor6113 What India and China do is their problem, if they choke to death on smog so be it.
In my local case, more water is let out in the hydro power plants when the wind isn't blowing but you do you.
YES Australian coal is blended with NZ coal.
1000 miners eating 1 meal a day at 30p a meal, works out at £300 per day
I think Lee Anderson is on to something.
I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say.
Why can we not have any industry in this country we need it for security, infrastructure and our own needs we need to make our own things you cannot rely on other countries in an unstable world
British coal for the British come on local stuff is better than imports
Most of the coal gets exported.
History always repeats itself.
Good news about the mine.The talk about Carbon free steel is probably for a long time to come nothing but a dream.In Sweden there's an ongoing project "Hybrit" which is questioned by more and more people,due to extremely high costs and the need for enourmos amount of energy.And last but not least,It's also impossible to compete today with a product so much more expensive per ton,dispite its green label.As long as other stays with traditional productionmethods.We should develop the technic,but it should be done in lab scale.
How is UK going to produce enough hydrogen to produce green steel!!!
Building hydrogen manufacturing site in Cumbria now. Complete in 2025. Before coal is exported overseas from same county.
100% behind the opening of this mine, china is opening 80 coal fired power stations, 80, time for us to export to them
One the one hand it is true that steel can be produced without the use of coal, on the other hand it's also true that energy is currently a bottleneck in the economy. That leaves me to ask how much effort would go into converting the current steel producing infrastructure from using coal to using another source and how much effort would it take starting up that coal mine. If it's going to be too much effort to starting a new coal mine and to be economical it needs to run for many years to come, then maybe it's better not to do it. If it's going to be easy to just get some extra coal for now and switching to something else when something else will be more available, producing some British coal could be a temporary solution. Thinking of it as creating jobs while it's temporary isn't very durable. I am being pragmatic when it comes to climate change because there also need to be an actual economy to speak of. I also think that the pollution from coal could be filtered and processed, so while it may sound horrible, it could be livable to keep using coal a little longer.
Only problem is it can't be used here, so it will have to be exported!
It is so ironic, and predictable, the people who are blindly protesting about the mine opening, are mostly retired, and have a very healthy income, and above all, must lead,a very privileged, and boring lifestyle, so have to ally themselves to a cause, to justify their existence, people of Cumbria need the jobs this mine will generate, and kickstart the economy in Cumbria, raise a family, and above all, have the dignity of being employed, the "protesters", do not have a grasp of reality, of what it is like to be skint, and struggle with daily life, because they are insulated in their own "colonial missionary bubble", brainwashed into thinking, they know better than anyone else, the facts are, the u.k., imports, 4million tons of coal a year, from China, and south America, where the workers are exploited, conditions, and safety standards, are non-exsistant, and child labour is widespread, then, their is the Carbon footprint,to transport the coal, to the u.k., the protesters never mention that fact, to summarize, I sincerely believe, that their is a "air" of snobbery about all this, and "nimby" is at the forefront, the protesters are not locals, they do not want the lake District to have a coal mine, perhaps it might de-value their 2nd house up here, Cumbria has a proud mining heritage, the pit is going ahead, and will open, just let these idiots keep on reading the guardian, and hug the trees, and they are not friends of the working class, they are the enemy within.
Agree with you mainly, but the coal can't be used in the UK, so the transport of coal will still be the same!
Green production, green straight jacket we only produce 1% of global emissions and its not long before the global climate catastrophe is going to have to be put against the wall and held to account
No you won't create just as much jobs through insulation. Sorry steel is far better commodity than imaginary labor markets. Why can't you do both???
Terrible news.
Coalmines😂😂
While the rest of the world is trying to abolish this dirtiest of industrial fuels, glorious Brexit Island stays true to its conviction to shift all gears backwards into a nostalgic past where it was every British man's God-given right and indeed pride to die horribly of a coal lung at the age of 45! Rule Britannia!
Not true. Wood burning is far worse for the amount of energy released and the preferred method of the middle classes to reduce their fuel bills. Used on an industrial scale the results are far worse than coal.
@@Gorbyrev Put a number on it, please. How much fossil carbon is released from each ton of wood burned?