For anyone asking, the reason both have differing smash factors / efficiency it’s because GC2 can’t track Clubhead speed so calculates it off of ball speed from an iron, therefore increase in ball speed means higher smash factor. I got no reason to fabricate results guys, if anything I want the older equipment to perform better!
Hogan Apex II's are my weapons of choice. I only bought them because they looked beautiful! I've demoed all sorts of stuff and don't really hit them any better. Bit better on Poor's strikes, but that's about it. I don't play to a high level by any means, I just love them. Paid £40 for 2-Equalizer in pristine condition. Especially considering they're older than I am. 1979 these came out. Great video. The numbers really are negligible considering the age.
Hogan apex 11 cameo irons were the first irons I used in 1983. My Father bought them for me, thinking that they would be easier to hit than his blades, which were basically thin Scottish blades, with a head the size of a soup spoon, circa 1930s. The feedback was unreal and if you didn't hit them on the sweetspot, it felt like an electric shock running through your arms. Incidentally the apex 11s were the last irons that Mr Hogan used. I sure miss those Baby Blades.
I switched from distance improvement irons to blades and dropped 10 strokes (after 1000 balls at the range hitting accurately for the 1st time). There's nothing as nice as a blade! The feel, sound, ball flight, workability etc are incredible.
Used the Nike VR pro combo set for 6 years ,pure blades up to 8 iron and did really well with them ,changed 18 months ago to AP3 ,My games not much different but the AP3's are easier to hit in the longer irons ,and I can hit a decent 4 iron now more consistenty. Still got a pure Tiger nike 6 iron blade I use for practice .I think you can use anything once you get used to it and practice plenty .A bad swing day on the course is a bad day what ever you use .Nice video Simon .
Had 32's for 18 months and they nearly broke my heart cause I found I was not as good as I thought I was but glad I tried, have now gone back to my mx23's. Thanks for the video
At 60 yrs old with a swing speed that only gets me 200 yrd drives, I bought a set of graphite shafted , flex face distance irons , they're two clubs longer , but they feel like plastic compared to my blades and I miss the joy of a pureed shot.
I've got mizuno t-zoid pro's which I love. They were made in 1996, 23 years ago. I've tried game improvement irons over the years and nothing produces the consistency of these muscle backs. While technically not quite a blade, I can't tell even after a blind test. Yes, I hit an MP 18 and my t-zoid one after another as the fitter handed them to me randomly. Blades all the way!
So true about focus. I have a set of Titleist Tour models 1-PW (around 1987) I never got rid of. I bring them out early in the year and they definitely make me focus more on hitting the middle. I don't hit the ball as far as I used to, still far enough. Even with the higher lofts over my AP2s, I still hit them farther. Maybe better turf interaction with the thinner sole. But there's no better feel than a middle strike with a pure blade.
2006 Ben Hogan Apex Edge irons.....forged irons with the most forgiveness you can find. And you can find a set for under 200 dollars, easy. I've tried several other brands of newer forged irons, and still come back to the Hogans.
Picked up a bargain set of MP-32's last week - 3-PW - only cost me £75 (in great condition). Wanted a set of pure butter-knife blades to practise with without the massive price tag. Great Vid, thanks for sharing!
Great vid! I think blades give a true representation of how tech has barely moved forward its alot to do with companies using shadowy marketing claims but actually just changing the weight and lofts and it does highlight the importance of getting fit for clubs or at least go for a custom fitting to understand what works for you. I play a set of mizuno mp62 which i spec to my requirements and they perform no different to all the different brands ive tried. ... but it is nice having a shiny new club though 😁
I presume the monitor you use doesn't have actual smash factor as its identical for each shot for each club. But the old club seems to be set at 1.36 and the new club is 1.45, have to set them the same for a fair comparison?
You got it in one! Blades make you focus. I have been using an old blade at the range as a training aid- just to really make my self concentrate on strike and consistency. Not just whaling away with a big GI iron that hides all your mistakes for you.... Now when I go back to my semi-bladed miuras (that I actually play with) im hitting them so much better. But I still have the more helpful inner cavity clubs in my bag from 7i longer... only my semi blades in 8i and shorter.
Ben Hogan equaliser wedges (amazing.) 8/9/Pw = MC 501’s 6/7 iron = IC 601 3+5 hybrids. And yes they are expensive, but it’s my main hobby and they make me happy every time I look at them. So I saved up and bought one iron every second month for a year until I had the set I wanted 😂
Fergus Reeve bit embarrassing that I’m a coach and never thought of using a blade at the range for my better students as a training aid, like that idea. Thanks mate 💪
I’m not a better player either lol. But playing with a blade improved my golf almost immediately. Certainly within a month my iron play had a noticeable improvement in accuracy and consistently- even if I lost a bit of distance because I was forced to have a more controlled swing and not throw the kitchen sink at it. So I’m now a full club shorter than I was before (eg I use an 8i for 150yards instead of my 9) but I can hit those numbers time after time- which is what matters the most. Plus if you ever get the chance, please do try the Miura mc501’s. They are a thing of beauty and worth every single penny IMO. And I’m not s great golfer and I’m sure as hell not rich lol.
I have played blades for 30 years, cavity back irons are like training wheels on a bike. If you hit it off the toe, thin or high on the face you should be punished not rewarded. I want my skill to shine through not the tech. I have not hit a cavity back iron in a while but from what I remember is you can hit three solid strikes and get three different distances. When I hit my blade 9 iron (which is a degree weaker in loft to most pitching wedges no days) I know it will go 135 yds every time on a solid strike, not 135 then 140 then 142. So if you want to challenge yourself and become a better ball striker buy a set of old blades and play the winter with them and in the spring when you bring out your cavities you will be better for it. In fact during the winter I play hickory irons and persimmon woods to sharpen my skills. Sorry if this turned into a rant, I just get a bit annoyed when reviews bash blades.
Well done , once again. Intrigued with the potential results of game improvement irons, same test. Perhaps G10 vs G410. Massive difference in price. Keep up the good work. Mich
If your golf is about the score, use something to shoot your best which will probably be something forgiving. If the score doesn't matter use whatever, this might be same forgiving clubs, it might be old blades and woods with actual wood heads or it might even be clubs with wooden shafts. It is all golf. Just have your definition of fun doing it.
I bought a set of minty fresh Mizuno MP-33 irons at the beginning of the year from Golf Galaxy for $110. A cheap lie adjustment and I’ve got a set of impressive irons. There is almost no reason to buy new.
If you take the mp18s out for a full round of golf and the take the mp32s out ...you will find a better score with the mp32s...Go on (Have a go)..Then post on youtube..Or would you be too embarrassed....I think a lot of golfers would like to see the result..Thanks David
Playing Taylormade TP MB's actually lowered my score when i started. Followed the trend and got the game improvement irons my first year and couldn't play consistently at all. I could always find the center but The yardages were always different. Picked up a used set of the 2011 MB's and immediately started hitting straight consistent yardages and went from a 14 HC to an 8 HC almost overnight. Now on my 3rd year playing i can consistently play to a 4 HC or better with the P730s KBS C-Taper 130x shafts. Chunky wide sole hurts my game. So i started playing "Blades" at a 14 HC when everybody said i was crazy and my game improved drastically. Moral of the story is do not just fall in line with these Handicap ratings that put you in a category that your not good enough to use certain clubs. Test everything and if you pick up a MB,MC,CB and tell yourself i cant hit this then you've already set yourself up for failure. Go into any shot with any club with the same positive thoughts and you will improve before swinging the club.
Completely agree brother. I was a high handicapper that used blades ever since I started playing. If you are a high handicap player don't be discouraged by blades!
Treated myself back in the day when I got to single figure's, what a set of club's, so pure , althro a club shorter than my previous club's, only reason I got rid was I hurt my back, still look sexy today.
Great comparison. Picked up the 18's when I retired my 57's, best decision ever. I'm glad to see you're getting a huge jump in distance too - mine are factory loft and I couldn't figure out why my pw was now carrying 145, up from 135 with my 57's. Gapping is an issue now - do you think it's worth getting everything lofted up a little, or should I just get a gap wedge and bench the 3 iron? Thanks man love the channel!
Did you check the swing weight between the 2 clubs? You put a DG 105 in the MP 18 but that's about 20 to 25 grams lighter than the S300 in the MP 32. I dont think it would make that much of a difference, but the 2 shafts were definitely different in weight. Should have compared to a DG120 or even an S400 tour issue for a better comparison
Very interesting vid - just bought a Titleist MB 718 3 iron to see if it’ll suit as an occasional driver replacement - looks like a great club - hopefully I’ll do it justice
To be honest, blades are not so difficult to hit. Don’t talk your way out of it! I game some Staffs from the 90s and I really am not a good golfer. They have traditional lofts but I am not losing any distance, although I don’t have clubs with the non traditional loft. By the way- I got my clubs for 24 dollars from Good Will! Just stop being afraid of blades and have confidence.
Hmmm love your videos, BUT this one I think what might have happened is that you compared a MP32 with a S300 shaft that weighs 130 grams to a MP18 with S300 105 grams... that will result in the MP18 “feeling heavier” only because there is 25 grams less weight in the shaft and thus the balance severely shifts to the the head making the head “feel” heavier?? Would have been interesting to see the swingweight difference! Cool video anyway! Keep it up
Can you try a review/test of some older lynx blades, I have just starting to use these for the winter, just curious on your opinion of them as at the moment I'm not feeling them haha
I have MP62s, feel like crap when you miss the middle but when you do get center, wow. BTW, that is crazy the difference between the irons and the smash factor alone is wack! That is driver SF territory.
clevited yeah smash factor might be a bit out, as gc2 can’t measure club speed but kinda gives a good guess. Hopefully we will have GC quads soon! Thanks mate.
+Mitch McKurtis yeah Gc2 can’t work out Clubhead speed, just ball speed, so Calculates smash on ball speed alone and because I hit harder than normal, that’s what it comes out with.
Nick Millar im hesitant on buying the ft worth irons. Mainly because i cant swing them before i buy em. But they do look amazing and cant complain with the price
Great video but.. you had the efficiency set to 1.36 on the mp-32 and then set for 1.45 on the mp-18. I'm assuming that's where the ball speed difference came from.
inocrrect hello pal, actually the other way round mate, that’s smash factor not efficiency, as gc2 can only measure ball speed it estimates the Clubhead speed and then works out a fake smash factor. The smash factor was higher because the mp18 has higher ball speed. Thanks.
@@SASGolf The shaft was 30g lighter in the 18, that's where the balk speed difference came from. There is no way a blade is 10% more efficient than another blade. It not like the 32 is from 1960!
If your going to put out videos check your facts first.The two heads will be within 1 or 2 grams the same, the reason the head feels heavier in the Mp 18 is because your using 105 gram shaft in it where the Dynamic Gold in the Mp32 will be 130 gram.
I use Ap1 (off 15) but bought a set of |MP32's recently and love the feel of them- have actually been scoring well with them but I stay in Scotland and my track particularly windy so will only ever use them on good dry conditions- need the AP1 when I need the extra distance and forgiveness
Excellent video. I play off 13 and have the MP18 MBs (4i-PW). I love them. Interestingly they carry around 10 yards further than my previous MP15s. I have better dispersion but also an x-stiff shaft. Also what’s interesting is my 6 iron carries about the same as yours. But my driving distance is still about 70 yards behind you! I’m probably off 13 because I’m so inconsistent. When you button them out of the middle there’s no better feeling. I find if I hit them a bit toe’y I’ll lose around 10 yards but they’re a lot more forgiving than people think! I just wish they did them in chrome!
Seriously I agree with you he's the reason I wanted to play golf . Best scenes I have witnessed watching sport was the scenes with his kids after the masters. A tiger in contention again benefits everybody in the game. Great content as usual pal
Tiger Woods is NOT the greatest of all time record says Jack Nicklaus and by the way ignore his wins 32 times in the top 3 in majors . If Tiger had to go through what Hogan did regarding upbringing and the accident you'd never have heard of him . Ha ha , rant over , enjoy your channel though
no more words of truth have even been spoken. Tiger is great, but people like Jones, Hogan, Nicklaus, Sneed and Nelson were far better. Equipment then and now is the main difference. If Tech was better, these 5 would have won way more. The question now, it if Tiger played in the previous era, how would he stack up? Sure it is a great player, but the greatest of all time, NOT A CHANCE.....
Lol you guys sound like old “get off my lawn” guys. No one has ever dominated the game like tiger. His peak is something that has never been seen. That’s why he’s considered the greatest. Tech would not have helped those other guys because the field all had the same - it was level competition.
I'll just put this here. 1. Including this years Masters, Tiger has only 1 come from behind victory in a Major and Jack had 8 on the final day. 2. Jack has 19 runner-ups in Majors while Tiger only has 6. Jack has 48 3rd place Major finishes vs Tiger having 24. 3. Jack has 18 Major victories and Tiger has 15. **This is all FACT, not opinion, if you FEEL Tiger is the greatest of all time, that is fine, but the FACTS say something different** ON TECH. Jack regularly hit drives with Balatas and Persimmon Woods over 320yds. To say this was incredible is an understatement. That was far outside the norm for his day. If he would have had access to better balls and clubs, there is no telling what would happen. AND, if tech didn't matter, then why do R&D departments for all the major makers spend millions every year designing new products (yes, some are money grabs) but you can't tell me that the consistency and characteristics of the balls aren't far superior today than in the 60s and 70s. On clubs, there was no mention of CGI, MOI, weight injection and playing with computers to design club faces for maximum distance and control in the 60s and 70s. It is just a fact that today's game is different and mainly because of advances in club design, materials and ball manufacturing. It is just something that can't be argued on a scientific level. This means the players from the 60s and 70s had to be more precise and do more with their ball to make shots happen whereas today's players can "get away" with hitting off center shots. **WATCH THIS AS EVIDENCE** th-cam.com/video/yToKIPg6ZQI/w-d-xo.html I wont even go into course conditions between the eras. Ask any older tour player and they will tell you today's courses are in much, much better shape than what they played on a regular basis. This does make a difference as well. Courses have had to change layouts and length due to technology changes in equipment. Ask ANY course designer or superintendent and they will tell you the same thing. I'm not saying that Tiger wouldn't have been a top player in the 60s and 70s, but as of now, he doesn't posses the record to justify him having the label the greatest of all time. I would call him the 2nd greatest of all time. When he gets to Jacks Major record, then i will change my mind.
@@Brandon-yf3tz thought so, don't let facts get in the way of the truth. i agree on the level playing field, but that still doesn't mean Tiger is the greatest, the record is there. at its base element, 18 is greater than 15 when i went to school.
You'd said the 18's had DG105's in them and were 1* stronger loft... Most likely the 32's had ole school Dynamic Gold S300 =135 gram shaft vs 105 gram shaft ... The shaft weight difference and stronger loft are enough reason for the couple of yards difference... If the 32s are strengthened 1* and given the same shaft -- the difference will not be seen .. 18s aren't made of magic metal -- they're clubs -- they look just like many of Miuno's previous offerings with a different # on them...
Some of this video is total BS. I watch pro golf from all over the world. The majority of golfers are using blades now. Some players 30 years ago used perimeter weighted irons, you don't see them at all now because they're rubbish.
For anyone asking, the reason both have differing smash factors / efficiency it’s because GC2 can’t track Clubhead speed so calculates it off of ball speed from an iron, therefore increase in ball speed means higher smash factor. I got no reason to fabricate results guys, if anything I want the older equipment to perform better!
One reason for the lower smash factor could be contributed to a softer carbon steel.
lofts are weaker in the mp-32 though? and probably because they're lighter
Hogan Apex II's are my weapons of choice. I only bought them because they looked beautiful!
I've demoed all sorts of stuff and don't really hit them any better. Bit better on Poor's strikes, but that's about it. I don't play to a high level by any means, I just love them.
Paid £40 for 2-Equalizer in pristine condition. Especially considering they're older than I am. 1979 these came out.
Great video. The numbers really are negligible considering the age.
Hogan apex 11 cameo irons were the first irons I used in 1983. My Father bought them for me, thinking that they would be easier to hit than his blades, which were basically thin Scottish blades, with a head the size of a soup spoon, circa 1930s.
The feedback was unreal and if you didn't hit them on the sweetspot, it felt like an electric shock running through your arms.
Incidentally the apex 11s were the last irons that Mr Hogan used.
I sure miss those Baby Blades.
I switched from distance improvement irons to blades and dropped 10 strokes (after 1000 balls at the range hitting accurately for the 1st time). There's nothing as nice as a blade! The feel, sound, ball flight, workability etc are incredible.
Used the Nike VR pro combo set for 6 years ,pure blades up to 8 iron and did really well with them ,changed 18 months ago to AP3 ,My games not much different but the AP3's are easier to hit in the longer irons ,and I can hit a decent 4 iron now more consistenty. Still got a pure Tiger nike 6 iron blade I use for practice .I think you can use anything once you get used to it and practice plenty .A bad swing day on the course is a bad day what ever you use .Nice video Simon .
Had 32's for 18 months and they nearly broke my heart cause I found I was not as good as I thought I was but glad I tried, have now gone back to my mx23's. Thanks for the video
Neil Cavendish yeah mx32s def More forgiving, better for the scorecard and that’s all that matters!
Excellent choice, I go back to the mx25's when my chunkies get annoying. That era MX seems magically forgiving for what they were.
At 60 yrs old with a swing speed that only gets me 200 yrd drives, I bought a set of graphite shafted , flex face distance irons , they're two clubs longer , but they feel like plastic compared to my blades and I miss the joy of a pureed shot.
I've got mizuno t-zoid pro's which I love. They were made in 1996, 23 years ago. I've tried game improvement irons over the years and nothing produces the consistency of these muscle backs. While technically not quite a blade, I can't tell even after a blind test. Yes, I hit an MP 18 and my t-zoid one after another as the fitter handed them to me randomly. Blades all the way!
So true about focus. I have a set of Titleist Tour models 1-PW (around 1987) I never got rid of. I bring them out early in the year and they definitely make me focus more on hitting the middle. I don't hit the ball as far as I used to, still far enough. Even with the higher lofts over my AP2s, I still hit them farther. Maybe better turf interaction with the thinner sole. But there's no better feel than a middle strike with a pure blade.
By the time the club makes contact with the grass the ball should be long gone and won’t effect distance.
2006 Ben Hogan Apex Edge irons.....forged irons with the most forgiveness you can find. And you can find a set for under 200 dollars, easy. I've tried several other brands of newer forged irons, and still come back to the Hogans.
I play some 1970's Ben Hogan radials shoot high 70's , low 80's , $20.00 at Goodwill
Picked up a bargain set of MP-32's last week - 3-PW - only cost me £75 (in great condition). Wanted a set of pure butter-knife blades to practise with without the massive price tag. Great Vid, thanks for sharing!
Love these comparisons. Really useful and fun to watch. Keep them coming. 👍
Great vid!
I think blades give a true representation of how tech has barely moved forward its alot to do with companies using shadowy marketing claims but actually just changing the weight and lofts and it does highlight the importance of getting fit for clubs or at least go for a custom fitting to understand what works for you. I play a set of mizuno mp62 which i spec to my requirements and they perform no different to all the different brands ive tried.
... but it is nice having a shiny new club though 😁
I have an old Wilson professional Andy Bean 9 iron,it's so nice and is the best feeling iron I've ever hit.
I play used mp32's. Love them. Plenty of carry. I just need to get them refinished.
Nice review.
I presume the monitor you use doesn't have actual smash factor as its identical for each shot for each club. But the old club seems to be set at 1.36 and the new club is 1.45, have to set them the same for a fair comparison?
You got it in one! Blades make you focus.
I have been using an old blade at the range as a training aid- just to really make my self concentrate on strike and consistency. Not just whaling away with a big GI iron that hides all your mistakes for you....
Now when I go back to my semi-bladed miuras (that I actually play with) im hitting them so much better.
But I still have the more helpful inner cavity clubs in my bag from 7i longer... only my semi blades in 8i and shorter.
Ben Hogan equaliser wedges (amazing.)
8/9/Pw = MC 501’s
6/7 iron = IC 601
3+5 hybrids.
And yes they are expensive, but it’s my main hobby and they make me happy every time I look at them. So I saved up and bought one iron every second month for a year until I had the set I wanted 😂
Fergus Reeve bit embarrassing that I’m a coach and never thought of using a blade at the range for my better students as a training aid, like that idea. Thanks mate 💪
I’m not a better player either lol.
But playing with a blade improved my golf almost immediately. Certainly within a month my iron play had a noticeable improvement in accuracy and consistently- even if I lost a bit of distance because I was forced to have a more controlled swing and not throw the kitchen sink at it.
So I’m now a full club shorter than I was before (eg I use an 8i for 150yards instead of my 9) but I can hit those numbers time after time- which is what matters the most.
Plus if you ever get the chance, please do try the Miura mc501’s.
They are a thing of beauty and worth every single penny IMO. And I’m not s great golfer and I’m sure as hell not rich lol.
I had a set of the mp-32, absolutely beautiful to hit
I picked some Walter Hagens blades out of a bin around 1970s vintage and won my comp and £50 off the boys! love em!
Love the little ‘dings’ in the old forged heads
I have played blades for 30 years, cavity back irons are like training wheels on a bike. If you hit it off the toe, thin or high on the face you should be punished not rewarded. I want my skill to shine through not the tech. I have not hit a cavity back iron in a while but from what I remember is you can hit three solid strikes and get three different distances. When I hit my blade 9 iron (which is a degree weaker in loft to most pitching wedges no days) I know it will go 135 yds every time on a solid strike, not 135 then 140 then 142. So if you want to challenge yourself and become a better ball striker buy a set of old blades and play the winter with them and in the spring when you bring out your cavities you will be better for it. In fact during the winter I play hickory irons and persimmon woods to sharpen my skills. Sorry if this turned into a rant, I just get a bit annoyed when reviews bash blades.
Well done , once again. Intrigued with the potential results of game improvement irons, same test. Perhaps G10 vs G410. Massive difference in price. Keep up the good work. Mich
Yes please!!
If your golf is about the score, use something to shoot your best which will probably be something forgiving. If the score doesn't matter use whatever, this might be same forgiving clubs, it might be old blades and woods with actual wood heads or it might even be clubs with wooden shafts. It is all golf. Just have your definition of fun doing it.
Loved the video ❤️
MP32 is the finest Model ever.
If anyone has some left over let me know. Left handed though. Or a Nike VR Pro
Very nice comparison!. Mp68 is my best iron set.
I bought a set of minty fresh Mizuno MP-33 irons at the beginning of the year from Golf Galaxy for $110. A cheap lie adjustment and I’ve got a set of impressive irons. There is almost no reason to buy new.
Blades that look so sharp they might be banned in the UK
If you take the mp18s out for a full round of golf and the take the mp32s out ...you will find a better score with the mp32s...Go on (Have a go)..Then post on youtube..Or would you be too embarrassed....I think a lot of golfers would like to see the result..Thanks David
Playing Taylormade TP MB's actually lowered my score when i started. Followed the trend and got the game improvement irons my first year and couldn't play consistently at all. I could always find the center but The yardages were always different. Picked up a used set of the 2011 MB's and immediately started hitting straight consistent yardages and went from a 14 HC to an 8 HC almost overnight. Now on my 3rd year playing i can consistently play to a 4 HC or better with the P730s KBS C-Taper 130x shafts. Chunky wide sole hurts my game. So i started playing "Blades" at a 14 HC when everybody said i was crazy and my game improved drastically. Moral of the story is do not just fall in line with these Handicap ratings that put you in a category that your not good enough to use certain clubs. Test everything and if you pick up a MB,MC,CB and tell yourself i cant hit this then you've already set yourself up for failure. Go into any shot with any club with the same positive thoughts and you will improve before swinging the club.
Completely agree brother. I was a high handicapper that used blades ever since I started playing. If you are a high handicap player don't be discouraged by blades!
I need me some bladets for winter training so my srixon z765 can look like super forgiving irons,
Keep up The good work!
Treated myself back in the day when I got to single figure's, what a set of club's, so pure , althro a club shorter than my previous club's, only reason I got rid was I hurt my back, still look sexy today.
MP32 are going for $500 in good condition on ebay these days
Great comparison. Picked up the 18's when I retired my 57's, best decision ever. I'm glad to see you're getting a huge jump in distance too - mine are factory loft and I couldn't figure out why my pw was now carrying 145, up from 135 with my 57's. Gapping is an issue now - do you think it's worth getting everything lofted up a little, or should I just get a gap wedge and bench the 3 iron? Thanks man love the channel!
Great vid! I just moved away from blades (Nike VR)
Did you check the swing weight between the 2 clubs? You put a DG 105 in the MP 18 but that's about 20 to 25 grams lighter than the S300 in the MP 32. I dont think it would make that much of a difference, but the 2 shafts were definitely different in weight. Should have compared to a DG120 or even an S400 tour issue for a better comparison
I would love to own these in 2 sets.
Very interesting vid - just bought a Titleist MB 718 3 iron to see if it’ll suit as an occasional driver replacement - looks like a great club - hopefully I’ll do it justice
I live in Botswana - what are they? :)
I don't think they're 'compacting more into the head', the mp18 has a lighter shaft so you can feel the head more and swing a bit faster..
Really interesting video! More of these, thanks
helopuro thanks mate, will do!
To be honest, blades are not so difficult to hit. Don’t talk your way out of it! I game some Staffs from the 90s and I really am not a good golfer. They have traditional lofts but I am not losing any distance, although I don’t have clubs with the non traditional loft. By the way- I got my clubs for 24 dollars from Good Will! Just stop being afraid of blades and have confidence.
Hmmm love your videos, BUT this one I think what might have happened is that you compared a MP32 with a S300 shaft that weighs 130 grams to a MP18 with S300 105 grams... that will result in the MP18 “feeling heavier” only because there is 25 grams less weight in the shaft and thus the balance severely shifts to the the head making the head “feel” heavier?? Would have been interesting to see the swingweight difference! Cool video anyway! Keep it up
Great vid and nice choice of blade brand 😉
Blades just make you more of a badass
I just bought a set of Haig ultras for 40 € just for trying out😊
Can you try a review/test of some older lynx blades, I have just starting to use these for the winter, just curious on your opinion of them as at the moment I'm not feeling them haha
I have MP62s, feel like crap when you miss the middle but when you do get center, wow. BTW, that is crazy the difference between the irons and the smash factor alone is wack! That is driver SF territory.
clevited yeah smash factor might be a bit out, as gc2 can’t measure club speed but kinda gives a good guess. Hopefully we will have GC quads soon! Thanks mate.
Very interesting, keep them coming. Could have bent the loft so they were the same?
I use Nike VR split cavity .Love um .Sound great .Cost me 120 last year .Bargain
Money money money, great info pal
1.45 smach factor with a 6 iron?
+Mitch McKurtis yeah Gc2 can’t work out Clubhead speed, just ball speed, so Calculates smash on ball speed alone and because I hit harder than normal, that’s what it comes out with.
32 looks like the ft worth Hogans today
Nick Millar im hesitant on buying the ft worth irons. Mainly because i cant swing them before i buy em. But they do look amazing and cant complain with the price
I wish everyone had to play blades.
Imagine getting a nice set of Mizuno blades in 2023 for $120 😳
Now the Mp20 HMB gives you all you need feel, distance and forgiveness
Great video but.. you had the efficiency set to 1.36 on the mp-32 and then set for 1.45 on the mp-18. I'm assuming that's where the ball speed difference came from.
inocrrect hello pal, actually the other way round mate, that’s smash factor not efficiency, as gc2 can only measure ball speed it estimates the Clubhead speed and then works out a fake smash factor. The smash factor was higher because the mp18 has higher ball speed. Thanks.
@@SASGolf The shaft was 30g lighter in the 18, that's where the balk speed difference came from. There is no way a blade is 10% more efficient than another blade. It not like the 32 is from 1960!
If your going to put out videos check your facts first.The two heads will be within 1 or 2 grams the same, the reason the head feels heavier in the Mp 18 is because your using 105 gram shaft in it where the Dynamic Gold in the Mp32 will be 130 gram.
Looks like you struck the 18 far more efficiently
Can't hit either so it doesn't matter
So how many of you guys actually use a blade out of interest!?
I use Ap1 (off 15) but bought a set of |MP32's recently and love the feel of them- have actually been scoring well with them but I stay in Scotland and my track particularly windy so will only ever use them on good dry conditions- need the AP1 when I need the extra distance and forgiveness
I use United blades and could never go back to cavitys
Excellent video. I play off 13 and have the MP18 MBs (4i-PW). I love them. Interestingly they carry around 10 yards further than my previous MP15s. I have better dispersion but also an x-stiff shaft. Also what’s interesting is my 6 iron carries about the same as yours. But my driving distance is still about 70 yards behind you! I’m probably off 13 because I’m so inconsistent. When you button them out of the middle there’s no better feeling. I find if I hit them a bit toe’y I’ll lose around 10 yards but they’re a lot more forgiving than people think! I just wish they did them in chrome!
Mizuno MP5's ....wouldn't change them for anything else!
I've been playing blades since I was 12. Haven't know anything else. Tried CBs, but they look like shovels to my eye. As they say, Horses for courses.
That intro made me gip
Your perception of "cheap" is greatly skewed.
Don't bore s get to the chorus
Lol you averaged 0* offline 😂😂😂
Don't know how you can call tiger the greatest and keep a straight face you obviously never seen Tom kite in his pomp. 😉
Ian rushes Left foot haha looking back at the footage whilst editing I thought that comment might of got pulled up 😅
Seriously I agree with you he's the reason I wanted to play golf . Best scenes I have witnessed watching sport was the scenes with his kids after the masters. A tiger in contention again benefits everybody in the game. Great content as usual pal
Tiger Woods is NOT the greatest of all time record says Jack Nicklaus and by the way ignore his wins 32 times in the top 3 in majors .
If Tiger had to go through what Hogan did regarding upbringing and the accident you'd never have heard of him .
Ha ha , rant over , enjoy your channel though
no more words of truth have even been spoken. Tiger is great, but people like Jones, Hogan, Nicklaus, Sneed and Nelson were far better. Equipment then and now is the main difference. If Tech was better, these 5 would have won way more. The question now, it if Tiger played in the previous era, how would he stack up? Sure it is a great player, but the greatest of all time, NOT A CHANCE.....
Lol you guys sound like old “get off my lawn” guys. No one has ever dominated the game like tiger. His peak is something that has never been seen. That’s why he’s considered the greatest. Tech would not have helped those other guys because the field all had the same - it was level competition.
I'll just put this here.
1. Including this years Masters, Tiger has only 1 come from behind victory in a Major and Jack had 8 on the final day.
2. Jack has 19 runner-ups in Majors while Tiger only has 6. Jack has 48 3rd place Major finishes vs Tiger having 24.
3. Jack has 18 Major victories and Tiger has 15.
**This is all FACT, not opinion, if you FEEL Tiger is the greatest of all time, that is fine, but the FACTS say something different**
ON TECH. Jack regularly hit drives with Balatas and Persimmon Woods over 320yds. To say this was incredible is an understatement. That was far outside the norm for his day. If he would have had access to better balls and clubs, there is no telling what would happen. AND, if tech didn't matter, then why do R&D departments for all the major makers spend millions every year designing new products (yes, some are money grabs) but you can't tell me that the consistency and characteristics of the balls aren't far superior today than in the 60s and 70s. On clubs, there was no mention of CGI, MOI, weight injection and playing with computers to design club faces for maximum distance and control in the 60s and 70s. It is just a fact that today's game is different and mainly because of advances in club design, materials and ball manufacturing. It is just something that can't be argued on a scientific level. This means the players from the 60s and 70s had to be more precise and do more with their ball to make shots happen whereas today's players can "get away" with hitting off center shots.
**WATCH THIS AS EVIDENCE** th-cam.com/video/yToKIPg6ZQI/w-d-xo.html
I wont even go into course conditions between the eras. Ask any older tour player and they will tell you today's courses are in much, much better shape than what they played on a regular basis. This does make a difference as well. Courses have had to change layouts and length due to technology changes in equipment. Ask ANY course designer or superintendent and they will tell you the same thing.
I'm not saying that Tiger wouldn't have been a top player in the 60s and 70s, but as of now, he doesn't posses the record to justify him having the label the greatest of all time. I would call him the 2nd greatest of all time. When he gets to Jacks Major record, then i will change my mind.
Jeff Hollon you obviously didn’t read what I said so I’m not gonna read that. I already know all the stats
@@Brandon-yf3tz thought so, don't let facts get in the way of the truth. i agree on the level playing field, but that still doesn't mean Tiger is the greatest, the record is there. at its base element, 18 is greater than 15 when i went to school.
You'd said the 18's had DG105's in them and were 1* stronger loft... Most likely the 32's had ole school Dynamic Gold S300 =135 gram shaft vs 105 gram shaft ... The shaft weight difference and stronger loft are enough reason for the couple of yards difference... If the 32s are strengthened 1* and given the same shaft -- the difference will not be seen .. 18s aren't made of magic metal -- they're clubs -- they look just like many of Miuno's previous offerings with a different # on them...
Some of this video is total BS. I watch pro golf from all over the world. The majority of golfers are using blades now. Some players 30 years ago used perimeter weighted irons, you don't see them at all now because they're rubbish.