Simeon Brown: Why NZ needs toll roads and whether new Three Waters plans force councils together
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- Local government and transport minister Simeon Brown joins Q+A to talk about the government’s draft transport policy statement, road safety, registration fees going up, and issues that councils have raised with the new water infrastructure plans.
Join Jack Tame and the Q+A team and find the answers to the questions that matter. Made with the support of NZ on Air.
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Absolutely bizarre interview. Every single question was dodged by the Minister.
Gee. How many ways can a guy refuse to answer a question? Really amazing…
It's a stupid question.
@@DossNZlol typical of those who won't answer because it's not part of the script or what they want you to believe.
who would want to answer a leftist like jack anyway????
@@pinkybar7328why would he go on the show if he didn’t wanna answer to a leftist? And what’s the alternative? Just go to right wing media ?
@@thatsocialworkguy2556 “do you still beat your wife” has become synonymous with Jack (yes/no) Tame.
Jack Tame is a legend. How punishing it must be talking to this tool for 30min
Great interview Jack, holding politicians to account.
Simeon couldn't answer a simple question, that's a red flag!
But is there any accountability?
Will anything be done?
Naaaa they are in power now so they can do whatever they want anyway
@@dswee3005yeah but people will be more informed when it comes to the next election.
@@thatsocialworkguy2556you think in 2.5 years people will remember this stuff.
No way because National, Act and NZ first will be once again campaigning on promises they won't keep..
Just wait till Seymour is acting prime minster during his 1.5 year stint. He will be saying some wild things and get worldwide coverage for it..
Similar to Winston Peters lovely comments the other day..
I don't disagree with the new policy but the stock National non-answer to Jack's questions and endless repetition of the talking point is a kind of psychosis. They need to simply own the potential risk and confront it before repeating the "balanced approach" line. It's just so obvious to an audience that they're trying to hide the risks.
well its pretty clear the "questions" are trying to get a "gotcha" - not asking for answers just telling a story Jack has already lined up. Knowing this, Simeon rightly doesn't wanna play that game.
@@samocooper9070 - This government keeps on doing a ,lot of talk with little plans other than blaming the previous government.
@@chrismckellar9350 agreed. They've been left with a tough job by every metric and it's only been a few months so far. Time will tell
@@samocooper9070jack asking simple yes or no questions and getting verse and chapters going back to the last government, what we campaigned on and what we’re doing and why, when a simple yes or no would have been appropriate. This is waffle from an idiot minister who is trying to justify his terrible policies.
@@samocooper9070they inherited an economy that was expertly managed to ensure people and businesses survived a global pandemic. Yes it cost a lot, but the alternative was people dying and we didn’t have that.
I didnt know Jack was interviewing a broken record
Jack is a broken record can't accept a answer unless it is what he wants to here ... know on can be that stupid?
@@seanpindredno it’s actually because the answer is not an answer and it’s a rote learned response
I don’t think I’ve ever heard the phrase “there’s a range” more in my life lol.
would love to know how many times he says the word range in this interview
feel free to take one for the team mate lol @@spike9653
Great, cancel public transport in favor of roads. Clog the roads up then charge congestion fees and tolls when most have no option to use a car . Put up fares on buses, under fund rail . Unbelievable, such bs . Sad really
Welcome to NACTNZ government..
By the way I'd you didn't notice none of the ministers can actually answer one question straight even when asked multiple times the same question.. diversion to another topic or not answering the actual question.
Is this what New Zealanders voted for?
Probably not but that's what we got.
Don't you mean all NZ Governments I Can't say I have every seen one that I was actually happy With. My next Vote I will be No Confidence unless someone really convincing comes along the politicians we have now all of them are just useless.
Your anger only hurts you. I'm sorry public transport doesn't work, just from the empty buses I see, but we don't have the population of Melbourne where it really does work.
nz isnt really built for public transport we are one of the top countries in terms of car owenership per capita. we love our cars. get over it, mobve to some woke europe country
@@chrisroger4416 As if NZ isn't turbo-woke, mate. I live in Europe and it's far more or just as woke in NZ. I guess it depends where you live in both countries. I agree that NZ isn't built for public transport, but in large part that is due to an absurd lack of planning in this country for 40 years.
We’re not going to raise excise tax, but we’re going to increase vehicle registration costs. National always robbing Peter to pay Paul - no difference to the “tax cuts” last time, that made most people no better off because they raised GST.. after Key promised he wasn’t looking at that…
A tax is compulsory pay to the crown( government).
The minister talks about funding methods in general. But bottom line is it will cost $10.00 . If you borrow you need to add interest cost. If private business shared ownership it must get a dividend so additional cost. We did have this thinking in 1950s and 1960s and built things very well. E.g Auckland Harbour bridge, Southern motorway to Ohahuhu /Papatoetoe and North Western motorway from Pt Chevalier to Henderson. Even the Pakuranga Highway.
What was the political discussion back then? Is different to now?
What happens when schools have a half day, are kids supposed to navigate around cars travelling at 80kph
That is one of the greatest questions ever.
Right?? And what if there are after-school or before-school events and activities? When I was in primary school I would often stay later than 4pm.
We use to without getting killed and so did everyone who is an adult.
@@kevinansley7353ah yes and your survivorship bias is showing
FN crap, do ya see kids in areas such as between Masterton and Carterton?
Roads do not drive economic growth in fact they are bottomless financial pits especially when the indirect costs of pollution, environmental damage, health and road death costs are factored in. It seems that the Minister has forgotten there are 15 other regions in the country other than Auckland where 14 regions have public transport services.
National did promise to get the country back on track. They just didn’t say which track, and the one they’re going down is less services, more taxes/tolls/levies/inflation for some and tax cuts and interest deductions for high in come earning multiple home owning land bankers and it’s just a coincidence that Chris Luxon is all three of those things.
Let's get NZ back on track... Back on the track to make the rich a little bit richer... But please don't tell anyone till after the election ;)
ABSURD - user pays tolls and tax cuts just screw over the poor
Did anyone expect anything different when they voted for national or ACT?
Seriously what did they think they were voting for, I'm honestly interested
No - user pays toll roads frees up state spending for essential services in other areas and eventually will allow for tax reduction. 'the poor' you talk of, if they are not using a new big road of national significance, why should they pay for it? Wouldn't you think there are other places that spending could affect them better? I'm not saying all of those services are up to scratch, but more toll roads will help big time.
@@MrDaragompotentially subsidizes maintenance costs as revenue wont be generated post build while tax is used to build the road and if it’s a private partnership a portion of revenue will go towards them…
Try travelling in Melbourne or any other international city without encountering a toll road - you can do it but you will have a longer journey. If it's not tolled it won't be built. It's a reality in modern times.@@dswee3005
Jack Tane is a bribed tool that dribbled all over Jacinda adern Gone soon Yay
This interview could’ve taken 4mins if this ‘minister’ just answered a few questions with a yes or no. Jack you’re a legend for listening to this punishing drivel for 30mins
Wow the government will be so proud of Simeon not answering questions he will definitely get a pat on the back.
Cry leftie shill. Get used to the next 3 governments being centre right.
That's their favourite Policy isn't it ?
I mean who doesn't love a minister that avoids every question and lies straight through their teeth?
@@dswee3005 as opposed to what, the previous 6 years of labour which were a complete disaster for the country
@@timtan2023hiyffgjust wait another 3 or hopefully not but 6 years and see what the real disaster will be.
Labour gets so much backlash for doing such a bad job but do you think they budgeted for a WORLDWIDE pandemic that was out of their control?
Multiple natural disasters and WORLDWIDE inflation.
Is that something a government should plan for in their budget???
Hindsight is a great thing isn't it
And probably in a few years you will be saying yeaaaa maybe I shouldn't have voted for this coalition that we currently have.. time will tell
He’s probably earned a lollipop too
He can’t quantify the risk, can’t articulate the productivity gains or time savings of the changes he’s proposing, seems to be change mostly based on his feelings.
Simeon is not up to snuff for heading up this ministry.
Yeah it’s a grim state of affairs when we have so many talented smart people in this nation, urban planners, transport planners and we have this guy at the top, this muppet. Like what a fucking joke.
If he were to answer honestly it would be "basically we want people to consume more oil for our Atlas lobbyist overlord profits"
or kiwis just dont want to drive 30kph and 80kph on a motoirway@@TeWakaOAoraki
@@chrisroger4416 Affordable and efficient public transport solves that problem. Instead they're going the opposite direction.
Gaw what a train wreck
National prefers the term road wreck
ffs just answer the questions SiMeOn.
Never... Would go against everything Luxon stands for. Avoidance. Questions, Tax. Responsibility. Well basically everything
Unfortunately it's plain incompetence. Did this guy just setu out of high school?
If building more roads solved congestion, America would have stopped building them years ago. It doesn't work. Check out induced demand, but I'm sure the Minister would have a range of ranges on that ranged idea
....and it will work even less here because we don't have the flat geography of the Great Plains to endlessly expand road across even if we wanted too.
Simeon Brown is pro life until it affects a motorist
Balance sheet separation was a key requirement for raising debt required for developing new water infrastructure. The fact that Simeon has given little thought to this issue is worrying
Although I appreciate the reversal of speed limits, Simeon Brown only considers Auckland, where as IN FACT, most of the country has also suffered blanket speed reductions.. Aucklanders continuously believing they are the only city in NZ.. Auckland this, Auckland that.. Ppfftt... FK AUCKLAND..
Probly because they contantly trial everything in auckland, aucklsnders get hit harder than the rest of the country...for instance we were in and out of lockdown restrictions for 2 years...where as the rest of nz was only 3 weeks of lockdown.
I have 5 speed cameras within 50km of my home and they are going to double that number.
How many speed cameras do you have?
Simeon Brown... "Well there is a range". between 6 to 16 billion. People can't really fathom how much one billion really is. The difference between one million to one hundred million to a billion is astronomical, and politicians like to throw these numbers around like their forecasts were just a little short... I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with Simeon here but those ranges effect the countries economics significantly and politicians should be held accountable when spouting these numbers off at random.
“A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money."
Who cares anyway as long as I get 50$ a week as a tax cut I couldn't care less about what the government does.
Could be a TUI add after all
16 Bil shortage was the average not the largest shortfall. So it could be a lot worse
@@Me-ui1zyprobably is a lot worse .. nothing is getting cheaper.
Costs for building road bridges got 30% more expensive in the last year alone. If that continues to repeat itself you can take the average 16 billion shortfall and make it 20.4 billion in a year.
I think people just don't actually realise how much money a billion dollars is compared to say 10 million.
A billion is an unfathomable amount of money...
A thousand million is a Billion
How ridiculous is it that Simeon and the others think it's perfectly fine to give the public non-answers to important questions. It's so patronising.
Kiwis voted for it. Now we have to deal with it.
As Luxon said, if we don't like it we should vote them out in 3 years... Until then then will do whatever they please
@@dswee3005 do you labour back in then,fiscally stupid
lol how about jacinda telling us not to go toilet in a friends house or talk to neighbours and believe them as the one source of truch talking to us like children
@@chrisroger4416hindsight bro hindsight is a beautiful thing.
If covid was as deadly as ebola you would have been thanking her for keeping you safe but we just didn't know at that time how dangerous it was or how it was evolving.
If you want someone to Blame maybe look in Asia rather than in NZ 😅
@@chrisroger4416and it was what 3 years ago. Forget about it already bro
So to sum this up, "there is a range".
$16bn short in terms of their estimates. National Party, party of the economy, pfft
Get Julie Anne Genter on the show. She’ll be able to answer Nationals questions on Simeon’s behalf.
Arguing that roads increase productivity - meanwhile Auckland loses $1.5B per year due to lost productivity in congestion. We are forced to own and drive cars and contribute to the problem since public transport is so underfunded. New Zealand has the most cars per capita in the WORLD! Our public transport is utterly laughable - I often dream of the walkable cities of Europe and beyond. Another amazing interview from Jack!
Wow. Just wow. How can someone like Simeon claim to be accountable when he cannot answer a single question. Doesn't give anyone hearing him after voting for him much confidence. They will certainly be will be questioning their decision. I have seen jelly harder to nail down!
Were your costings accurate. Simeon took the long road to saying NO.
Like all these in government at the moment. Saying nothing, not answering, sound bites, spouting the same corporate claptrap and beating round the bush. I’m actually waiting for answers
yep, so much easier to sit in opposition and oppose for the sake of opposing, a bit harder when you're in power!!
Is everyone happy you voted for change, I bet you are. A change for these clowns spouting bs . We’re doomed with this lot .
very happy i dont want speed limit to be 30kph and 80kph on motoway fk that
@@chrisroger4416most people don’t think like you.
like labour was really doing a great job like fuck
We've had variable speeds at schools for years
Just answer the question damn it!
Like a Monty python sketch
ABSURD - cutting PT also disproportionately affects the poor
Who made this high school student a minister? where is the family? Hes TRUANT
Lol
It’s hard watching interviews of these National ministers.
But you would never be happy with the answer unless it was what you wanted to hear,
@@darylpatterson7894Regardless of your politics, a $16B hole in Simeon's BS bduget shouldn't make anyone happy.
@diyguru9677 Hi again, I need to see where you got the info to back up what you have said Happy to have a read if you have that link. People just seen to say whatever they choose to, but please show what you base these comments on. Otherwise, it is just pub talk.
@@darylpatterson7894 No, this is not pub talk, it is the TH-cam comments section for an interview with a government minister who refuses to answer questions regarding his job transparently and honestly. You cannot link outside of TH-cam in the comments section for a TH-cam video. People would not have any questions regarding the fiscal responsibility of this government if they had provided any sound financial plan with a basis in economics whatsoever. When you see a coward shrink from basic questions regarding important issues that affect people much poorer than him, does that not make you angry?
@@darylpatterson7894Perhaps you weren't paying attention to the interview @10:00
Answer the question Minister!
Giving tools. How does this reduce the total cost of construction?
What a train wreck interview that was Was so hard for Brown to say Yes or No Instead of squirming and squealing trying to avoid it
Its fine no kids ever go the school outside school hours right, They never do after hours sports or used the playgrounds of facilities in the weekends so we should totally drive much faster at these times... What a load of nonsense. Because its the last governments fault. blar blar.. I just want to drive my ford ranger faster around Auckland because... that's what I want and screw every one else. Lets be honest here
You are selfish.
@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj No they aren't. Provide explanation or shrink away quietly.
its called common fucking sense
Is there a downside Simeon!!
Did he answer ANY of the questions?
Simeon "No Answer" Brown
This what happens when the NP goes to the USA pre-election and spends time with the Republican Party in various R-lead states and downloads the conservative ‘playbook’. If you want to imagine what a future NZ looks like under that regime, look at the R-lead states like Wyoming, West Virginia, North Dakota, etc. The ‘spin’ mechanisms are also straight from the conservative manual. Things do need to change, and it will be an adjustment; the real question, how many NZers are you prepared to leave behind to reach all these ‘promises’ - all of which are aspirational with little regard or emphasis placed on the risks, and most importantly, how to manage options when things change … I’d prefer a more honest and empathetic approach than the ‘new CEO forcing change’ image and ‘let’s blame the last guys for everything’ that this coalition seems to endlessly rotate around … 😕
All these new Coalition ministers talk in riddles. Trying to fix everything with no money is crazy and bound to fail.
Just cancel some more things and cut jobs . Happy you voted for change everyone lol such bs
why do u think we got no money lol
Well we have increased rego, ru chargers right across the board and when they start to increase the petrol taxes it well rise to 22 % , by the time they finish . Now lets increase speed limits , its okay my kids won't be hit ffs what utter AH. Oh lets welcome back Simon Bridges to No where . What an utter cluster F..K !
ANSURD. Most traffic delay in an urban environment is at intersections. People just sit longer in the queue when traveling at 50kmh and arriving earlier.
Things just aren't adding up and i voted nats in
Thank you for f***ing us all over 👍
I was with a large collection of National voters yesterday suffering varying degrees of buyers remorse. Not one of them were optimistic.
There must be a lot of people who feel that way.
Hundreds of thousands of Kiwis must feel quite shocked and disappointed by now!
I for one, think these upstarts are horrendous and can't be trusted- the opposite of Chris Hipkins.
it is a good thing to slow the speed limit around schools. The signs with the lights on it rumble strips to let people know be aware slow down needs to go in with it
Kids play at schools after hours and sports as well as weekends.
so? watch ur fkn kid
So the average new Zealanders is saving 3750 seconds (62.5 minutes) a year. Assuming they drive every working day. The cost. Higher road tolls around schools. Did New Zealanders vote for that? If so, they should be ashamed.
Stuff NZTA, this organization needs change at leadership
Look at the end of the day, what I am saying to you is there is a range ..
The most significant part of state highway one which desperately needs fixing is Cook strait. Roads don't guarantee increased productivity but fixing the ferries and their infrastructure would. I live nowhere near Wellington but it seems obvious to me.
common statement i got from this is "the last govt did this, the last govt did that, the last govt did this again"
Thats the truth.
we have that bs in australia and all toll roads are a rort by pollies corporate mates paid for by taxpayers years beyond any real value .and the price of tolls will always rise
Everybody drinks every time Simone says "previous government"
when is the 2nd tunnel going to be built in wgtn - lots of talk, don't see anything happening
Put your toll roads around schools so young people can walk to schools. For shit sake, it never halmed us.
The MP for Pakuranga did not answer questions about down times.
Funding options! But total money is the same. The MP said failure build is costly. So National between 1950 to 1984 failed Auckland. Railway from Orewa to the city . Avondale to the Airport via Onehunga and Mangere bridge then to Howick to Panmure .
Petrol tax , road user charges, and registration . Auckland is 1.6 m . 80% of this that money should stay in Auckland. And same to GST and Income tax.
100% should stay in Auckland.
Why should Auckland subsidize the rest of the country ?
The 20 minute trip measurement. The interview stated 15 seconds was lost.But the Minister did give facts. He said there are range of ...( His common phrase)
The MP does give facts.
How about the speed limits, for example Wainagwa to Carterton?
Can we get a word count of, last government and range
ABSURD. Local government has failed to manage assets in the past. They need to be forced to fund infrastructure maintenance ahead of other spending
All of the comments like yours bashing the government seem to have similar usernames? It's either that or the comments are turned off altogether
Absolutely.Local government are experts at wasting money on nice to haves.
They say "user pays" as if we have any other option but to use the roads in their vision for this country? We won't be able to walk, bike take a bus or train. They force us to live in a place that can only be navigated by car, then say that's just our "choice" to drive.
Any added confusion to speed limits around schools is potentially disastrous.
Absolutely!
its always been 30 around schools anyways lol so idk the big deal he just doesnt wanmt entire cities under that blacket speed limit its stupid and 80kph motorways lol that would cost trucking companies and getting stock into the country 10 fold
At what cost ?? Automatic system s cost money and take time to implement??
Imagine if he just said yes, costs have gone up with Nat govt. Do you reckon he will gain more support from the public? I know he would from me.
I was thinking that myself.
We have a range of options.😂
Simeon is correct. No one is following the 30kph speed limits. Totally pointless
Yes, some form of traffic engineering is also required to get users to travel at
30 kmh
Sounds like an argument for narrower roads and extended sidewalks around those areas
I know, judder bars and raised crossing platforms lol. Let’s have some more.
@@user-im3hr1ed2l Yes!!
F went down to 20k at a school crossing lol in town I turned down this road I saw a 👮♀️ going 30k and then came toward the school crossing out jump this 👮♂️I got sprung 20k but he let me off as I didn’t know it had dropped
Haha, Jack, spot on! Simeon Brown's question-dodging skills are top-tier. 🤣 The school road limit situation? A classic tale of policy backtracking. Toll roads are our favourite paradox: a necessary evil we can't decide if we love to hate or hate to love. 🤔 Wish we had a complaint box for road standards-I'd fill a novel! 📝 Still, there's some fun in watching the political spectacle unfold. 🎪🤹♂ Here's to enjoying the show! 🥂
Have a same system in Australia. It seems to work. 40ks near schools well signed and with electronic signage
Interesting he talk additional requirements, cost of construction and change scope. This is an example the high cost new ferry wharf. N Willis speaks differently.
Lol i almost feel sorry for the ones who still believe this govt........almost 😂
The trouble with the way the governance operates in New Zealand is that it is tightly coupled to the service layer where apparent politicians or duty-bears try to catch fish for people instead of providing a way for people to fish for themselves.
Public and private businesses or organisations are unable to cooperate with one another because of this tight bonding they have with the governance layer.
Politicians such as Simeon Brown don't understand this and hence why they sound ridiculous every-time they open their mouths thinking that somehow the policy they are implementing benefits all service providers.
Clearly it doesn't, one shoe can't fit every foot.
A better way of enacting governance is to provide people with the tools to create and manage their own policies according to their needs. No politician or external stakeholder could possibly know what that would look like other than the people or organisation creating it in real-time. There is no need for a "government" or separate organisation to manage policies for people.
Jai Adi Da!
hahaahahah this government will be a one term government...
no chance
what about removing a lot of those speed humps that are darn right dangerous
Why do reporters interject when they ask a question and the respondent is talking. Let them finish the answer even if it's not the one they like.
He can't even answer the question.
I think you missed the point @@loganstewart5693
That’s what a politician wants -because then they can spew all their talking points and and wear down the clock without ever answering the question.
Notice how Jake gives them enough time to see if they are actually answering the question or not, and only if they aren’t then he interrupts.
He does the same to left wing politicians too when they dodge questions.
Reporters ask the questions that the rest of us want the answers to.
If an upstart like this one, and several of the others is going to turn Jack's programme into a display of running the show with gaslighting, no one would be interested.
It is painful listening to this interview given the inability of the minister to answer the questions.
OK big issue with these kinds of interviews, When you ask someone about the "Overall" or "Average" result of something that has wide ranging variables associated with the issue, your not going to get a real representation of what is being talked about. Funding is a good example because some areas might have a higher need and higher cost and vice versa, where as if you slap an average cost onto it, that negates that idea of the issue completely.
Very short, sounds like it. If Simeon has not answered Jack question
Taihape has different roading issues to Auckland suburbs.
range
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National needs to back their decisions and stop giving vague answers and keep beating about the bush.
Who’s interviewing who jack
Like others I am fed up with that corporate speak and lack of answering questions. Was the previous government perfect - no. But so far this one...sheesh!
Lower speed limits around school zones during busy hours sounds reasonable as that was the sole purpose for the rule.
And by the way, i would like to hear this man talk but the interviewer just wants a direct answer.
For people like me who may not know much about issues like this, i would like a detailed explanation.
How does the Cost of water infrastructure work! with combined councils sharing the same network! when you have the likes of the wellington Regional Council involved?
whats the fuel excises tax for then why are we paying so uch in petrol tax and they cant build roads
Come on cut to the point, answering the questions
Look at John Campbell series that identifies water problems.
Ohhh yes BCR’s for roads especially these RONS are often barely over 1.0 yet cycleways are often multiples of 1.
When I was 5 years old a got run over on a pedestrian crossing outside a school at about 16:45. I got sent back to get my jumper. Permanently scarred face
Your comment is not only incredibly sad, for you and your whole family, but it also gives a real context to the whole spiel of bullshit by Brown.
Thankyou for sharing about your devastating experience.
Go to Chile and be amazed at their roads - paid for by tolls. However, their public bus system is also amazing both in and between cities.
He doesn't know how to answer a question just like the rest of them
Why did councils not increase rates last year? They are going up 15% but problems existed last year. M Laws on his platform identified how councils over time have not done well.