THE MINION BUILD TIERLIST for 3.25 - Path of Exile
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I just want the big Guardian minion to put me on its shoulder and carry me through the story.
exactly
more like mech hero ?
But it seems there are no guardian s tier in ghazzys list here... and it was heavily neerfed coule leagues ago, no?
Yes please. So tired of having to do campaign on all 7 alts.
No..Ethan aka TheGAM3Report1 is the Zombie King...zombie whatever name you wanna use. He plays it every league and gets it to insane multiple mirror tier every league. Sad he gets next to no recognition for how insane his builds are. Bro 100% deserves it...
one of the two is carryd by insane gear and does mostly afk blight, the other does real builds that are allrounders u can recreate for less than mirrors so .. who would you mention ?
Ethan is the man.
Ethan is a minion goat like ghazzy
Only few people care how a build functions on a multi mirror budget.
If a build sucks at low or medium budget, its very niche.
He plays zombies literally from league start to multi-mirror tier...Its all he has played the last few leagues. And saying he only does afk blight is actual dumb af... but yes Its one of his main goals every league
Ghazzy, my carrion golem build is worth checking out. Easy to gear as it's ssf, and I say it sits above arakali fang in terms of dps and survival.
To be honest half of the builds on TH-cam seems like a bait to me, either they r overlay complicated or need specific unique to work I’m lost at this point, as here u got minion s tier list but what does it mean? Can I get to red maps day1-2 with just picking items from the floor in this guide or what S tier build in this list compared to other builds that r floating around?
I mean picking Guardian gets you to early Red maps alone, Big Guardian Minion slaps. Buuuut you are sacrificing higher endgame as it scales worse than necro.
Given my experience with Absolution back in Kalandra league and the addition of Vaal Absolution, I was expecting it to be in a low S-Tier. The only defensive weakness I remember (playing the CI-version) was Lightning-DoT when fighting Baran and Eradicator. With the addition of better ES basetypes and the return of Kalandra-Rings, going CI with Doryani's Prototype should be even easier.
Is strong but always feels clunky.
@@Wayfarer17683 worm flask
@@Wayfarer17683 Agree a lot. Being stunlocked in place because of Abso' casting feels awful. Especially early on when you have no speed of any kind.
"Mage skeleton and elemental SRS are holding hands in the trash bin" hahahaha 😂 🗑️ love it. Thanks for the tierlist ❤ I'm already hyped up! Can't wait for the league!
...with fully explosions
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Zombie father has been acknowledged
He is the man
My absolution in affliction league was face tanking Uber Sirius... With 40mil DPS... The changes to taste of hate can help mitigate the downside of doryanis.
I will play as Ice Nova of Frostbolts Archmage hiero in starter league and will made a 2nd Necro char and play as Summon Holy Relic of Conviction when have dialla, amanamu, ashes .... I loved play this build in last league as Necro and want to play again in this league. Good league and good farm to us !
Leaguestarted BAMA last league, leaguestarting it again. Fantastic clear and very good boss dps.
Do you have a pob for bama to share? i'm thinking about it, but there seems to be only one guide uptode for 3.25 so far.
Arakaali's Fang deserves better! (Pls don't bump it down from A class)
May be you forgot that Vaal Absolution exist, it's pretty much like press vaal absolution and run then whole screen go boom for the duration, which extremely fast clearing compare to other minion.
Hey what about Herald of Agony builds ???
What about vaal summon skeletons with infernal legion and after death effect
During the Iron Mass Skeleton bit, I was enjoying watching the head in the middle do a very good English dubbed Japanese/Chinese movie impression.
So this is basically challenging us to do a reaper build. If im correct, dot kills always count as player kills because of engine limitations. Reaper gladiator with the new 20% explosions?
Have you ever tried AWoSR with Oni-Goroshi? The Level Requirement on the gem equals the "per Level" on Oni-Goroshi, so you'll have a level 100 Minion at Gem Level 20, benefitting from the added damage.
Due to the Hateful Accuser's accessibility of the Penance Mark, Chains of Command receives a significant buff. We can drop the stupid Worm Flask and the associated Life Flask Recovery Points that made the build so clunky in a boss encounter environment...
I agree that the defense rework will really help the survability of zoomancer necro (a big reason why lot of ppl went guardian SRS). But we need to test it...soon can't wait!
How would you rate Popcorn build?
Srs + minion instability
It's not bad for leveling in acts and lower maps, but runs into the problem of just killing your other minions way too often compared to just doing poison SRS. You end up needing to make your other minions twice as tanky as any other build, which doesn't actually help your DPS at all. Minion instability also doesn't really benefit from various affliction spectres' auras like any of the other minion builds do-your only hope is a Perfect Marionette's Scorching explosion. Remember that you can't just desecrate additional Affliction spectres, which makes Minion Instability a large liability when using them.
Popcorn srs imo is sick. I've league started it half a dozen times and taken it to kill some ubers.
in my personal opinion, very strong, easy gearing, this is my league start
Srs popcorn is kinda pointless when we are getting back Dark Marionettes that are much better and smoother as zero button Autobomber
@@Asghaad dark marionette zero button autobomber is kinda pointless when we are getting lighting strike warden
I don’t really want to ask because ik I am probably wrong, but is lightning srs dead? We are getting the spectres back, and we have the kalandra mirrors again so getting negative lightning res is easy. Theoretically lightning srs w the templar will still do decently well no?
As someone who usually mains minion builds, as well as hardcore. I'm interested to see how we stack up to the slayer and melle builds in the way of survivability. I will likely play SRS with zombie/golem/support specters/ and AG. But I'm thinking heavy End charge is going to the best defensive layer. So I'm having trouble deciding on necro or a jug/chief for a safe hardcore SRS playstyle.
Well now that we have rupture as a support gem. I do think reaper could be a bit underrated. And now that chance to bleed work with minions, Ambush/static strike/rupture support/law of the wilds might be fun.
Probably gonna do Zoomancer or Zombie from TheGAM3Report1. But I'm also interested in Sir Moustache's zombies as well (thanks to this video)
I expect elemental srs to land around C tier with the affliction spectres. Its going to depend how big the nerfs are.
as someone that skipped 4 leagues and came back for this one... its actually insane how hard minions got gutted, from quol, to mechanics, to quality effects that actually dont even make sense (spawning more srs? when you already get capped without almost any investment into speed? bruh, what a replacement for 20% movement speed)
no left mouse use? desecrate hard capped at lvl 80? auras nerfed to death? bruh
what is happening
Dominating blow is the best build i've ever played in a league start
Also something about the AG chains of command build is the weapon exchants from runewords should apply to the AG when equipped.
So we could get a nice buff depending on which mods are present
What build uses AG Chains of Command, sorry?
@OvermasterP any chains of command build which are pretty solid for clear?
Also what I said ended up being pretty amazing on BAMA using flestcrafter and a bow with that has the flat cold based on your es enchant.
The chains of command was just an example
I'm ready for my Spirit of Fortune/Iron Mass build. God I hope these spectres are in.
I made a reaper that can have around 6 minions of its own after it kills someone which made it a lot better
Im going guardian holy relic. Its physical damage and the changes to some of the auras should work with it (purity, for example)
meybe you can do create new build - exemple: Arakali Fang daggger + bleed spiders (chance to bleed works with minions now)
hi, returning player here with a Q : what the hell should i do with convocation if cant bind it to left click??
Wveryone should start zoo. Simply because base pet damage outperforms. You then transition to putting more eggs in single baskets. We'll see which ones are best. Bama seems good but i dont see it as a minion build at all. Holy relic seems top tier unless nerfed.
i want giant lobsters as spectres wooo
3:35, Balor said that the the returning of the spectres from affliction probably will solve the divine blessing problem, even with minior nerfs.
If you wanna run 3 mationettes kinda i guess, but thats mostly for non minion builds, for minion builds wasting the spectre slots on marionetters for 1 aura is meeh when you can run 3 diff good spectres like spectral leader and the new old wildwood spectres
@@selenemh8724 its not for marionettes, but the spectres come with different auras and buffs.. in the end the affliction spectres will make the builds stronger than before even when loosing divine blessing
@@selenemh8724 but that is the solution, three aura spectres like the forest tiger , warlord and naval officer, not guardian blessing
@@selenemh8724 you can get free haste aura with a wildwood spectre, there is that.
Aaah my bad guys, tought you meant the free one, my plan If they arent gutted is bama with fortune, thunderbird warlord and top it with spectral leader, he was awsome last league
So what you're saying is... League Start as some sort of Reaper build. Got it!
Reaper being a forgotten minion is such a shame, it's a very cool looking minion, wish it performed better.
Do you guys member Flame Golems? Ah, the Delve league... I member
Which, if any, summoning build is good to takle all the content but doesn't use an animated guardian? I hate that stupid thing. (yea I know it is powerful)
I can vouch that minion instability marionettes can do all content without AG as I did in 3.23
Spectres with wraithlord helmet
The only valid minion build is a melee minion build. This is Sparta league. Everything else is an illusion.
Do you think Dark Pact Necromancer is still a thing?
played holy relic last league, and it was one of the best build i've ever played, smooth, lot of damage, very tanky
Problem with it being meta is that everything in that build will be obnoxiously expensive
And then theres me! Iron Mass Elemental. The worst part of Phase's Iron Mass Skeletons with the worst part of SrS Elemental.
YAAA BOIIISSS
I did manage to pob it to 11M dps (10M purely skellies) clocking at 5-10 divines total expense with what I consider to be tremendous defensive layers but I am not sure I config the calc page correctly. shows about 50k EHP but does that take bloodnotch into consideration?
Really excited for this league
Hi! Will spectres from affliction perfect corpses live on non-summoner builds? Worth trying to invest in their survivability? Or it's only for pure summoners?
Anyway to make golems with Guardian? I always prefere The Guardian tankiness instead of The necromancer for my minion builds
It's been a while since I ran a minion build but dont they all rely on like.....SUPER expensive cluster gems that are really hard to get?
Which Minion League Starter is best for complete PoE Noobs (like never played the game before)?
Why don't they make reaper absolutely a solo minion so you don't have to feed it? Also just make it deal like screen wide circular aoe's so it clears. It takes 1 second for GGG to buff it to make it usable
Hey! Do you think it's intentional that reaper can consume manifested dervishes from dancing dervish? I would love to make a build using reaper and dervish supported by bloodlust but he keeps eating them...
The video shows CoC AW as Occultist, but the guide says Necromancer. Nice tier list, really making me doubt going for slams on league start.
My apologies, I used older graphics images that I haven't remade for this league, I'll fix next time!
@@Kikis118 Thanks!
Pure spectres poison shamen was very strong last league. Like really good
Wow zoomancer is S tier,
Is it cheap build? Can i use it as a league starter?
I'm a 9to5 casual player😅
Also is spectres really just an A tier even with new spectres incoming in 3.25?
Jugg reaper using maloneis mechanism was so fun to run. Sad its trash. And now with the changes on snaring arrow its even worse. Maybe if you use the web aura, i guess enemies take increased damage too. Not sure.
Great video as always
Sad that Dark Pact didn't even make the dumpster tier, was a fun build! ☹
What is the best minion build for realistic budget and best boss dmg/survivability? @ghazzyTV
Why is Chains of Command not on the tier list?
Could reaper be viable (or other bleed minions) if Glad bleed nodes worked for minions? I know they don't but just as a thought if Champ and Glad could both support minions I think it could be fun for some more minion verity other than the question between do I go poison (Necro) minion or ele conversion (Guardian)
i dont see the lightning bama in the vault?
Oi wot about iron mass sword skellie warriors? Doesnt the skellies get buffed from the melee buff?
I accidentally dropped my first quest reward. Can i get it back in anyway?
I will never abandon my friends, mage skeletons. My Minion Totem Build (BAMA + Mage Skeletons) is unstoppable, it just causes arthritis.
How can i push my dominating blow necromancer to clear simulacrum completely ? I die on 10 - 11 wave
You can't. That's a shit build...
Spectre tier lists for DPS and Support? >.>
I'm gonna quote Ubisoft right now: "Melee is quadruple A". That means it is at least S+ 😅
yes
I am the lone reaper play. I insist on playing it every league to decent effect. I just think it looks cool so i make the best of it. The idea of pulling up a meta build and copy and pasting it bores the hell out of me
I really like old man so I play templar every league. This time I am not sure go for holy relic or bama… all my homies telling me necro is better for both of them 😢
Spectre builds are done.
With the Desecrate pool nerfs it's completely destroyed.
Dark pact didnt even make it to the list :(((( Im heart broken
Apologise for the lack of gameplay quality & the fact that most of it is outdated. I will sort high quality updated gameplay footage for 3.26 league. ~Kikis
3.26 already? ;)
@@KrzysztofStarachowski Yeah for next league, I'll gather a bunch of footage from 3.25
get some sleep from a stranger that doesnt sleep
just saying your vid thumbnail still has "full necropolis league information" in it. might wanna change it to boats :D
i see in video icone 17x something, what is this minion? i never saw it, iam new in POE/or iam new after 10 years, iam weekly player, but iam noob, what is this gem to summon pet? thx, because i want try your build. +-
i really hope one day they will up the reaper, it's so cool, but soooo bad
Does mother's embrace belt proc tincture??
Can't dominating blow sentinels now bleed on hit?.. I think there may be a build there. Dominating blow bleed!
didnt they nerv bama with they convert dmg and can only deal this type of damage?
What do you think about Maw of Mischief? Kinda half minion build, even if the damage comes from you.
Also, your cold conversion holy relic build is a guardian, but under the tier list I see it listed as necromancer. Would you do the cold conversion also as a necromancer, or was that just for Balor's poison version?
why necro domination blow is better than guardian? Isn't the big stone dude op anymore?
Why is the mic quality so crackly / poppy
For anyone thinking of going stone golems, they are very smooth for clearing t16 maps without ever pushing a button (or perhaps an occasional convocation). But anything higher, I wouldnt recommend them. Easy on the wrists, but 10 mil dps is already pushing the limits.
Been using stone golems since harvest league, they can do full simulacrum and uber shaper, if you're good and also have great gear they *can* do t17 and some of the other ubers, but mageblood is basically mandatory at that point.
Clear without asenaths or profane bloom jewels is pretty shocking.
I prefer the bleed variant.
@@grungehog Do you have a PoB for your build? Would love to see how you build yours.
@@Zenbubbles I don't use PoB, long story short it pure golems elementalist, no other minions, one chaos golem, 1 carrion(jewel proc), the rest are stone golems.
hf totems to apply shock and cull. auras: flesh and stone, pride, determination war banner typically 6k life, 78 max ele, 81 chaos and 90% phys mitigation.
Other than jewels, only uniques are amulet daggers and belt.
Playstyle is place totems down to inflict shock, predator support mark enemies I manually apply vuln hex on enemies and dodge out of enemies attacks, occasionally I drop a void sphere for crowd control.
Build is mostly hit based but I like to do the bleed version and cap out minion bleed chance, once one shot wave 20 omni in a single bleed he died from his leap slam, another time a 5 sec run one shot hydra in
the formed.
Budget 100div
@@grungehog I see, thanks. Sounds good, but when I said t16 is the best you can hope for with stone golems I meant a 1 or 0 button playstyle, and at most a 20 div budget. For 100 divine most skills could do t17 maps. It is fun to push an off-meta build that far, though. Cool to see people do still use the golems. I hope they will be back in PoE2.
@@Zenbubbles I typically run them on 7 link, woke multistrike, woke minion damage, woke brutality, woke melee phys, ruthless and predator support and by that point they are gem level 30.
The expensive part of the build comes through the amulet and the multistrike gem, otherwise yeah I could kill maven on a 10 div budget using primordial chain and 4.8k life, done it plenty of times.
so they are mostly hybrid builds not total minion builds?
Is there any SSF friendly builds? im new
Im doing reaper yea, i do it every league, and there are some improvements that can be made to pr3vie build, its outdated a bit, but i guess you never actually tried reaper
Okay quick question => If I really like minion builds, but I really hate specters, what minion build would be a good choice that does not included specters?
Same position for me here, like i can just pop minions and kinda forget about it and just run around while they kill everything, i don't want to chase after a particular corpse or particular mob to resurrect for my minions to be decent, is that possible ?
Arakaali can't have both AG and Spectres due to Ancient Skull. But its not a leaguestart due to unique (Fang) and t0 (Squire) requirements.
Start with SRS/BAMA and monkeys from Ashen Fields for charges, and if Squire is cheap- swap to Arakaali's Fang+ Squire.
Be cautious tho, BAMA is THAT good.
You can play any minion build without using spectres. They only add some damage (ranging from about 10 to 30% if the new spectres are really strong). So zoomancer, SRS, animate weapon, you name it. However, with divine blessing gone, you will probably have empty gem slots sitting there, which is a waste. You can also choose to simply use carnage chieftans from act 2, or only use spectres on difficult bossfights. For clearing, no spectres or animate guardian is neccessary.
Hey Ghazzy, what would be the best build for ssf? Considering the uniques,spectres and gems?
You can play any of these SSF. They don't require anything specific. Only BAMA and Relic requires transfigured gems to work and even then you can just play zoomancer until you get the required gems from lab on your own and swap. All minion builds use essentially the same tree with very small variations. Very cheap in regrets to reroll and you can just use gold in this league to refund passives.
So skeleton archers is just completely out of the question?
Can those builds farm t17? or the minions will be dying?
I will league start Guardian SRS and probably play til endgame!
Im sad no popcorn srs is mentioned :(
Which one of these is the best for bossing?
i love arakali fangs
What about flame golem of the horde build? What rank would that be and how viable?
Golems are not in a great spot and need a bit of love.
They do work but pure spectre build is just better.
I couldn't get Flame Golem's numbers to work well enough on paper, at least not while also maintaining good defense. I completed all content with Stone Golems including Ubers and Sim. Carrion Golems are similar but I found slightly less damage and slightly less hp.
Huge defensive bonuses from Golems. Hp regen was over 1500 and phys reduction was 90%.
@@The_Communal_Grind i want to play stone golem as league starter i love golems. do you recommend without primordial might?
@mkaya136 I do recommend without primordial might. I prefer it that way. Primordial might makes them aggressive, then they tend to travel outside your auras, which is only noticeable on very hard content. Also, they no longer listen to commands and I prefer to command my golems via the use of a curse. If I cast a curse in a direction, my minions/golems go there, Ie a particular boss or a "nearby enemies cannot be killed" rare
Flame golems are C tier for me. Not enough boss damage. If there’s a good build out there that raises them higher, I’d love to know about it.
Timestamps would be a great improvement to these videos .
Not trying to be disrespectful or anything, but why does your microphone sound like a bad headset?
so holy relic with guardian or necromancer?
DJ DARK mixing again!🗣📻
Im ganna build something like Captain Lance's crablord build from last league. Ganna be 2nd toon though not starter.
11:00 combine arakaali with skeleton mages 😉
How is the reaper build for league starting? 😍🙃