i think its if people want speed over form factor since cooling makes it almost as tall as vertical DIMMs lol you get faster speed due to it connecting directly to mobo's circuit to the CPU. I wonder how hot it would get on passive heatsink cooling.
5 years ago the big thing companies did to charge extra was put RGB on everything, I guess now it's single flow liquid loops in everything so nothing fits..... create the problem to solve it eh?
I actually like AIO GPU that has radiator built on top of the PCB to save space. Its annoying have to put AIO radiator for GPU somewhere else on your case while you have AIO radiator for the CPU.
They arent! Pcie already been flagged as an obsolete technology because of the theorical maximum data transfer that they can handle. They are already working on something else
same for rams, if you only have 1 and it stops working, pc down and you have to buy the entire thing again. whereas if you have 2 or 4, you can save some money and have the pc running till you buy new ones
I am interested to see powerfull smaller form PCs, like Small Form Factor or console sized machines. Whether it has integrated stuff or not but I am leaning more to compact pc design.
Can't wait to see what "Breezper" can do. AI language models are getting fascinating. I think the mediatek chipsets and their developments at the Computex 2024 are incredible.
I love your work. Just one question? What is the point of an AI monitor? It is daft even for single-player games; paying money for games to make them easier doesn't make sense.
I personally dont want to make a game easier but the idea they are trying to develop is that it can eventually train you to become a better player, it will be able to show you what you can improve on and what you are doing right
@@DesignsByIFR Can't the games just be made with red lines around everything? I remember they tried to do that with sports on TV, golf balls and hockey pucks with red circles around it.
sound and looks like there will be no more channel and ram kit. It just 1 module I do not sure my feeling toward this...... This both very innovation, rare thought, insanely revolution but at the same time.... hum....
what's up with that dope REVERB @ 3:19 ??? Was it because that was the second "NOW" ??? lol - I wouldn't have noticed how many times 'NOW' was said if you hadn't added that reverb..... TALK ABOUT THE STREISAND EFFECT!!!! lol
I'm looking forward to the day that motherboards get rid of the traditional rear IO interface. its personal preference but I wish that would become modular.
Adding elements which either block or impede airflow will decrease the life of system components, and particularly that of the graphics card. Increased weight my lead to premature failure of the motherboard.
Instead of cables on the back of that CAMM2 board I'd rather just see lay-flat ATX connectors and low-profile VRM heatsinks on the top. Imagine the air coolers we could have if the upper VRM, 24-pin connector, and M.2 slot were all kept at the same non-intrusive "Z-height" as the chipset plate (already the case for the M.2). That would free up volume, but also the four motherboard screw holes in the top-right to pull double duty as heatsink support attachment points. So super-chonk coolers could get lower, wider, and be fully supported by the motherboard tray when the PC is moved instead of hanging off only the socket and stressing the board.
Tipical olmpist on the end is the thing you wanna really see 😅 nice is not soder to Motherboard. I was afreid to see this. Et list you not gonna need to retest to many times ram to figer out the problem. I did buy DDR 5 32GB to went from 32 to 64GB and now I'm figering out whitch modul is bed 😡
I gave build ALOT of gaming PCs over the years. The most trouble ive had with motherboards and Video Cards are Asus and MSI. I went GIGABYTE and it has been amazing.
Salut Sebi din Brașov (România),,părerea mia ie ca sunt prea multe firme,,care creează tot felul te piese,,,ieu zic ca ar fi fost mai OK dacă ar fi fost doar una sau doua Firme de PC
Graphics are getting even heavier, did the manufacturers reinforce the motherboard slots and cards PCB? If not, we are going to get even more card damage in the near future and it’s not cover by warranty, like the current ones.
Can anyone reading this, answer this question?: You have massive 3-4.5 slot desktop gpus - that need tons of space and massive rads on the card - yet, ppl buy these thin laptops for gaming (w/ 'gaming' mobile gpu chips)? LOL! Why would you spend thousands on gaming laptops - how is that mobile gpu going to be kept cool (and relatively quiet)??!?
We need less work on the GPU dies and more work on the memory capabilities. The gpus themselves are bottlenecked by their own memory. This has already been proven countless times with modders adding more ram to cards and they are able to push out even more.
Soo new low profile Ram, but you have to cool it, and the cooling solution takes more space than the original dimms. (scratching head).
I like this comment.
i think its if people want speed over form factor since cooling makes it almost as tall as vertical DIMMs lol you get faster speed due to it connecting directly to mobo's circuit to the CPU. I wonder how hot it would get on passive heatsink cooling.
Dont look at the msi gen 5 spatum ssd with fan and heatsync then. 😅
More heat means more power to cool means higher electric bills
"the end of ram" is.... ram.
Right? It's like saying we are getting rid of SSD by going to M.2 lol
Not just ram but ram that must have very serious cooling.
@@kchaney56 Yeah the real improvement (more compact ram slots) seems to be there to support the step backwards (ram now needs liquid cooling)
I wonder if the setup will allow larger capacities given issues with using 4 sticks of DDR5
@@fnunez It's time they build computers that sit underwater. Just fully submerge them lol.
Why the clickbait about CAMM2 not being RAM?
Compression Attached Memory Module - CAMM2 - LPDDR5X speeds up to 9600MT/s still RAM > $500 - DELL - 32 GB DDR5 4800 MT/s expensive as well.
It's certainly some interesting tech and unlike the host of this video you actually know the difference Mhz and MT/s
Dear Journal. Today I was clickbaited again. I hate Clickbaiter.
5 years ago the big thing companies did to charge extra was put RGB on everything, I guess now it's single flow liquid loops in everything so nothing fits.....
create the problem to solve it eh?
I actually like AIO GPU that has radiator built on top of the PCB to save space. Its annoying have to put AIO radiator for GPU somewhere else on your case while you have AIO radiator for the CPU.
This just made me realize anyone could print these and slap them on their cards.
that is the idea long term i think
Yeap I used to make these until I lost my printers to this Houston flood smh
3d print using abs?
@@roylu1398 or resin or powder
When are they gonna change the design of motherboard / graphic card interface?
need something thicker than pci slots for these graphics cards
and the remove features like extra strength/tough pcie from motherboards? no way, how are they gonna overcharge us..
when will they fix gpu blocking pcie slots issue?
when will users no longer have to buy extra riser cables?
They arent! Pcie already been flagged as an obsolete technology because of the theorical maximum data transfer that they can handle. They are already working on something else
@@MigMar-be4vw ...pcie gen.7 is out but we are on gen.5 in the user market dude working on something else means nothing XD
@@MigMar-be4vw PCIE won't be obsolete until GPUs are maxing out in that generation. Only thing that would max it out now is storage drives.
4 slots
If one is damaged,
I still have 3 slots 😊
1 slot
If one slot damaged
Instant RMA😢
are you sure ? Even if is Dual and or quad band ?
You literally didn't pay attention 7:45
@@nmay231 what do you do until you replace the socket?
in the multi slot system you just take the ram out of the broken socket and continue working.
same for rams, if you only have 1 and it stops working, pc down and you have to buy the entire thing again. whereas if you have 2 or 4, you can save some money and have the pc running till you buy new ones
Just like the CPU socket, and probably the same tech.
Still, $$$ is the main problem.
I am interested to see powerfull smaller form PCs, like Small Form Factor or console sized machines. Whether it has integrated stuff or not but I am leaning more to compact pc design.
Not the end of ram won't be buying these ridiculous boards
You will when they all switch to this. It will be years before that happens but it will happen
@@dylanharper4324 consumers will decide.
Curved monitors are still finding suckers to buy them
What's your issue with curved monitors?
The dragons look like nice dust collectors. Anything on dust management?
What were half of these shots? Did your cameraman hit the bong before shooting this
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9:10 are they cooling the RAM with the hot coolant of the CPU or they cooling the CPU with the hot coolant of the RAM?
AI gaming monitor....🤢🤢
Water cooling for ram. 😂
Lots and lots of gimmicks.
Any AI bundled by Apple, Microsoft, Google or Facebook should probably be avoided like the plague.
we already have water cooling for ram since custom loops existed.
So when ever ram goes faulty u wed to change the whole motherboard 😅 or laptop 💻
no, watch the video
At least watch the video carefully
you can just swap out the entire ram and the bracket if ram gets messed up for whatever reason. no need to change Mobos
IFR - Insight of Future RAM.
Hahahaha
Can't wait to see what "Breezper" can do. AI language models are getting fascinating. I think the mediatek chipsets and their developments at the Computex 2024 are incredible.
Yes its all getting exciting!
Quick release button for GPU? How often do normal people change their GPU
yes we do, it is called upgrading gpus
And every time you work with the parts in the case... Quick release should be law if you ask me
even at like 4slots i like it better than trying to add another rad and hoses in my system.
@5:34 what do mean "world's first curve gaming monitor"? I already saw it years ago. What? 😮
Yeah, my Samsung G6 will be shocked when it learns this.
Could the atx 2000 mini pc laptop cards and rydezn 7000 pc laptops fit into some sony / mitshubishi
When it comes to RAM speeds Mhz and MT/s are not the same thing
Corsair made a 3 mini fan cooling solution for their Dominator series.
I love your work. Just one question? What is the point of an AI monitor? It is daft even for single-player games; paying money for games to make them easier doesn't make sense.
I personally dont want to make a game easier but the idea they are trying to develop is that it can eventually train you to become a better player, it will be able to show you what you can improve on and what you are doing right
@@DesignsByIFR Can't the games just be made with red lines around everything? I remember they tried to do that with sports on TV, golf balls and hockey pucks with red circles around it.
We've come to the point where there's an officially built-in hardware cheat overlay, bye, bye honest online games
MSI GPU should have the serpent dragon circle and wrap around both of the Fans instead of blocking 1 fan or only having 1 fan.
Great video! Lots of neat new stuff coming out.
sound and looks like there will be no more channel and ram kit. It just 1 module
I do not sure my feeling toward this......
This both very innovation, rare thought, insanely revolution but at the same time.... hum....
7:43 So no close up of that beauty but why.
Only thing that was really cool is that gpu quick release 😅
why do "now"s have extra reverb ?
No idea haha
usually those graphics cards either hidden away or mounted down, you don't really see those Dragons 😅
Haha true! We will have to see them mounted vertically
I already have an MSI video card. Can I buy one of those dragon designs to add onto my card????
Not enough technical details for exactly how that new ram implementation actually works.. Which was the only thing I wanted to know..
3:48 you mean _"now when Apple invented USB-C"_
I would take Arthas themed details.
White wintery in mind, cyan caables and leds.
what's up with that dope REVERB @ 3:19 ??? Was it because that was the second "NOW" ??? lol - I wouldn't have noticed how many times 'NOW' was said if you hadn't added that reverb..... TALK ABOUT THE STREISAND EFFECT!!!! lol
Hahaha, well the amount of times i said guys or fantastic throughout the show, someone needs to do a counter 🤣🤣
I Like how Gensen signed the plexy glasses around the cards and not the actual cards themselves. Lol.
It would be awesome if that monitor can detect enemies in MW3/Warzone. LOL
Haha it can if the game developers allow msi to implement the tech into their game
What if you could make your GPU thinner with liquid cooling, and then make it fat again by putting the radiator in your PCIe slots...
Great coverage, keep up the good work adley! :D
Thank you! 😁
agree! really good, thx to creator
if this CAMM2 can get 256bit it will be worth to change
WIDEN THE BUS!
(Also can we PLEASE get 256-bit on 4070 super gpu pls)
when i see intel i'm like do they come with blue screen incorporated?
Those GPUs are insane 😍
They sure are!
I'm looking forward to the day that motherboards get rid of the traditional rear IO interface. its personal preference but I wish that would become modular.
The gpu with the dragon looks great 👍
Yes i love those!
that MSI advert ? noting else from anyone else ?
Great 0:34 MSI should have called this Card "DRACARIS"!!!
can linux be ran on these machines?
Why wouldn't it be able to run on them?
@@Alexus00712 Driver support
AI monitor. Still don't know why i "need" one. The onboard AI lost track of the enemy. Why does the AI need to be on the monitor? Color matching?
Adding elements which either block or impede airflow will decrease the life of system components, and particularly that of the graphics card. Increased weight my lead to premature failure of the motherboard.
Me - hoping GPUs will eventually get DIMMS.
Motherboard manufacturers - watching GPU manufacturers walking past on the street
ram is fast enough already
Good video thank you
Instead of cables on the back of that CAMM2 board I'd rather just see lay-flat ATX connectors and low-profile VRM heatsinks on the top.
Imagine the air coolers we could have if the upper VRM, 24-pin connector, and M.2 slot were all kept at the same non-intrusive "Z-height" as the chipset plate (already the case for the M.2). That would free up volume, but also the four motherboard screw holes in the top-right to pull double duty as heatsink support attachment points. So super-chonk coolers could get lower, wider, and be fully supported by the motherboard tray when the PC is moved instead of hanging off only the socket and stressing the board.
Yes 100% vrms is now certainly a limiting factor for a lot of coolers
Why not all of the above?
About damn time... I'll wait for 2nd gen tho
I hate CAMM. No upgrade path only replace path. If i dont get an uphrade path, I'd rather have RAM integrated with CPU like the Apple chips than this.
I don't see the advantages. If they'd managed to interface GDDR, that might take my internet
FYI speed can't be fast
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The time has come when you can buy games on steam to let AI play them for you.
loll. brilliant
20 gigabits/s... not gigabytes/s. huge difference. but still good!
Never knew Mark Wahlberg was into Tech ;P
memory does not need alot of cooling, i dont even have heatsink on mine ddr5 5200 42c
CAMM2 needs more cooling.
If gpus are more powerful, why do we even need cpus?
There will be work arounds for that monitor tech for sure! Expect twitch streamers to get busted using these
The Red dragon but would have to be blue for me.
All i see is less end user configuration and repair
Tipical olmpist on the end is the thing you wanna really see 😅 nice is not soder to Motherboard. I was afreid to see this. Et list you not gonna need to retest to many times ram to figer out the problem. I did buy DDR 5 32GB to went from 32 to 64GB and now I'm figering out whitch modul is bed 😡
Just in vase I'm testing old one ase well bot they are good!
I suppose "The End of DIMM" wasn't dramatic enough.
i wish to stay with dimms rather than camm
More RGB!
I want the ram directly behind the cpu, on the back side of the board. It would be totally out of the way and the tracers would be the shortest.
awesome instead of throwing just one stick cause it got wonky now we throw away the whole set cause its cool
Process replaced Rams
The new memory design is all the charts.
Sure is!
New? Apple has had integrated memory on its SoC for several years.
Because apple sucks@@gaiustacitus4242
I gave build ALOT of gaming PCs over the years. The most trouble ive had with motherboards and Video Cards are Asus and MSI. I went GIGABYTE and it has been amazing.
Salut Sebi din Brașov (România),,părerea mia ie ca sunt prea multe firme,,care creează tot felul te piese,,,ieu zic ca ar fi fost mai OK dacă ar fi fost doar una sau doua Firme de PC
Yes it does get confusing but competition is good for keeping companies in check
There are websites that you can download more ram for free from
It does look like MSI is putting an end to the "Republic of Gamers".
don't understand why there no CPUs with build in Ram anyway..... would be much faster like AMDs ....x3D CPUS but with 64, 128, 254 GB
should have motherboard with all the parts built into it :D !!
=D
That's so 80s commodore 64.
comPEWtix! holy crap.
GPU are too big as it is.
All these tech but we still run Windows.
Hi. Very nice report :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
World’s first thing someone else did first*
Graphics are getting even heavier, did the manufacturers reinforce the motherboard slots and cards PCB? If not, we are going to get even more card damage in the near future and it’s not cover by warranty, like the current ones.
Awesome!
07:30
Its like theu expect these thigs to break
Can anyone reading this, answer this question?: You have massive 3-4.5 slot desktop gpus - that need tons of space and massive rads on the card - yet, ppl buy these thin laptops for gaming (w/ 'gaming' mobile gpu chips)? LOL! Why would you spend thousands on gaming laptops - how is that mobile gpu going to be kept cool (and relatively quiet)??!?
Next will be GPU’s the CPU’s will do it all
I came here for motherboards.
if ram clock speed is now up to 8400 mhz... why not just say 8.4 ghz instead? lol
7:27
there will be no end of ram.
Hello!!! Oh, MSI!!! 😊
♡♡♡
the Future of ram.... Ram.
We need less work on the GPU dies and more work on the memory capabilities. The gpus themselves are bottlenecked by their own memory. This has already been proven countless times with modders adding more ram to cards and they are able to push out even more.