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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2021
- This War of Mine is an incredibly atmospheric game that allows players to confront the civilian experience of war.
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This game is donating all profits this week to the Ukrainian Red Cross. I decided to buy it, and was looking up the game as I hadn't heard of it before. Thank you so much for this amazing breakdown of the game and its meaning. I'm definitely going to play it now, rather than let it sit in my library
Had no clue about that. That’s a great initiative!
Ive bought a copy for every single person on my Friends list
Am buying this game now, it makes me happy to see a studio supporting Ukraine.
I Just saw this! I bought it just now, I'm downloading it as I write this and ran over to see what its about!
@@TKainZero gimme a key
this war of mine has the best morality system ever because it doesn't have a morality system, you aren't told you've done a good or bad thing, you just see the consequences and have to justify your actions yourself based on those.
One thing that I liked about TWOM was that you were forced to go deeper into the scavenging map as you each place would get picked dry; making you see more and more horrors of war
I always pick the military base lmao trade with them, and get the trade after I kill all of them
It's so frustating to repeat over and over again when you keep getting killed in a new location, until you figure a way to kill everyone there
You kill the ones who live in location:danger
As they are mostly raiders/millitary and the one who kills them should be a strong rogue type guy/girl so they don't get into depression quick....try not to kill the ones in caution advised as they are mostly families like you...also avoid killing in consecutive days to avoid falling in breakdown, my favourite peeps to kill is at military base since they got buffed up supplies for guns and food and meds like it takes 3 days to completely wipe out
@@abhinav9578 you can actually wipe them all put on a single night, all you need is a knife.
@@WorlWyrm you must be famous among the assassin's 👀
*Ain't War Hell?*
-The Doorgunner in "Full Metal Jacket"
He says "aint war hell?"
@@PKFireFawx ah yes Sry
Fun fact the door Gunner was originally cast as the drill sergeant but Lee ermie did it better
Get some!
“War is war and hell is hell and out of the two war is a lot worse
-Hawkeye
Oh I remember a very similar experience I had while scavenging. Came across a house that was hit pretty hard in the middle. One side was empty, but with stuff, but the other side had people living in it. 2 very frightened people, and one with a gun. I tried to go through to the side of the house that wasn't getting used, but that meant that I had to make it past the armed resident. There was a tunnel underneath which would let me through but I'd have to bring a saw. So I came back the next night with one. But even while underground, I was still found. The gun bearing Civilian rushed down to get me. I tried to hide but she found me anyways.
I beat her to death with my shovel.
I thought, hey that was good, it may not have been the desired outcome, as I had wanted to sneak past, but now there is no more danger in this place. So I continued looting and exploring the now dangerless part of the building. Of course I couldn't take everything at once so I came back the next day to get some more stuff. And why wouldn't I? That house had plenty of good things available for me, so I didn't think twice about it. However, just as I was leaving, I made some noises and the other 2 people heard, but not discovered me. However, they spoke with each other. And you could just imagine and almost feel the horror of them exchanging words like "Oh no, I heard something" and "Do you think he's back?"
And that's when I realized. I became like some sort of boogeyman for them. And I could see why. I came in, and beat one of them to death and stole emptied the other side of the house.
When I came back to the home base, as I was cooking and crafting some stuff, the question "Did that woman really have to die?" pounded on my consciousness harder and harder. I never went to that house again.
I remember playing this game when I was 15. I still remember when I made it to the end of the war - I put my head down on my desk and felt like a monster. I made it out, but at what cost? This game messed me up and I was depressed for days afterwards, but it gave me new perspectives on life, war, desperation, etcetc. After everything through, I felt like I came out a better, more compassionate person in the end. This War of Mine was definitely the most memorable game I've ever played.
That's crazy you learned such a lesson from a video game. I'm not sure if that's a positive or a negative. Are you American?
@@Atum-kv3eo i think its on the positive side
W my first gameplay was at 15 too, the game is memorable af
The little ones is a great addition to the game aswell
Playing that at first time, makes me feel a lot of emotion, cry, angry and joy
Cry isn’t an emotion
@@mst311 sad then xd
Marko will always be my favorite survivor to play as in This War of Mine
I've had similar experience. When i've played it my scavenger came to some house that turned out to be inhabited by an elderly couple and their grown up son. He told me not to come, i tried to scavenge garbage in outer room but got in restricted area. He attacked my scavenger, i tried to run away but got in dead end and she was beaten to death by him. Being furious I decided to go and avenge her by murdering that man. When I sent another survivor to this house I started wondering - he was taking care of his parents and protecting them, they have nothing to do with it and they need him. But in some other fights enemies surrendered when seriously hurt and I decided to be merciful and just hurt that man badly until he surrenders. But he did not and kept attacking my survivor so I had to finish him off. To make matters worse his parents came down and started mourning him, screaming stuff like: "Alexei, no!".
That shit got me depressed for 2 days. My act of vengeance which i deemed to be fine because I wasn't going to murder anyone got out of hand and hurt wrong people.
Omg I'm going to love this game. Did you have any problem with the heat vs cold? Heard people say even though it wasn't winter and they have generator people were freezing
This comment alone has me downloading it off game pass right now. Thanks
You get depressed just because of a freaking game?
You're as soft as the characters in the game, it's a war, kill or be killed, it's annoying that the characters get depressed so easily when killing people
@@felypinho020 you seem like kind of a judgemental & unhappy person. Bet you're awesome at parties dude
This is a game I find myself playing every year. It is brilliantly made & has dire situations with consequences that make you really feel.
Also, the board game of TWOM is great too!
I absolutely love this game for it’s atmosphere. No other game I’ve played has nailed the setting of war in the way that This War of Mine does. It has it’s flaws, as any game does, but the atmosphere always has me returning to get invested in a different group of survivors.
I'm curious, were you actually ever in a war? Otherwise how would someone know whether or not they nailed the setting of war?
@@TheXeeman not to mention every war is different. When I got back from Iraq the first time my uncle talked to me about Vietnam, which he had never done before with anyone in our family. While he said there are similarities in war, every one is ultimately different, and he was right. I mean Afghanistan couldn't be more different than Iraq, and Vietnam was itself just as different. Imagine WW2, WW1, or Korea, all different hells in their own way.
@@seymourskagnetty6498 thanks for your service
What i really love about this game is you can upload a picture of yourself into it and make yourself a playable character making the game even more personal.
Everyone needs to buy this game NOW: The entire video game world needs to be aware of this game and purchase it at this very moment.
I'm about to start it in a couple hours. Omg, comments like these are killing me right now. 💯
@@jonathanstatham88 Get ready to ball tears out over some of the moral choices you will be forced to make.
Did you just wake up yesterday? 😂😂 just now realizing war is bad?
Too hard to beat
This game is highly inspired by the situation in Sarajevo during the siege. Both the game as a whole, and certain details.
The grafitti that says "SNIPER", for instance, existed in the same manner in Sarajevo.
Knowing people who fled that war made my experience playing the game even darker.
Atmosphere: 10/10: one of the best ever, all categories.Music, backgrounds, lighting: it's all there.
Gameplay: 4/10: Controls are somewhat clunky. Micromanagement is tedious at times. Combat sucks. Good system for upgrading your home.
Story: 9/10. Just survive, and make your own story. It will be memorable.
Unfortunately I got good at gaming this game. I rarely lose anyone because I've become too aware of how to avoid conflict and balance resources efficiently. That was base game though, haven't tried the DLCs.
I have roman over here with pstd giving his teammates lethal wounds then walking around all crazy like "what did they do to pavleo"
The little ones throws a wrench into the mechanics you're used to. NOT ONLY do you need to take care of survivors, you also need to take care of the children by feeding them, keeping them happy and so on, keep in mind you STILL need to do the same essentials of keeping up on your base and upgrading all at the same time.
@@ZenoCiti wtf that actually happens. I had no clue lol
I never couldm
@@G-Lew yeah roman beats up other survivors if he gets upset 😅
I feel like the combat is way too satisfying for a game where your decisions affects the ending,
I’m serious, something is oddly fulfilling about getting that one-tap with an scoped assault rifle or backstab with a knife.
Though the combat could be a bit more difficult, it’s very easy if you know what you’re doing.
But still, trust me, hearing the soldiers or bandit say ‘Alexei, No!’ is damn depressing seconds before I stab their neck, Moonshine + some guitar can easily get my survivors over the ‘sad’ state but it surely stays with me as the player.
Absolutely love this game the DLC little ones is also great
I loved playing this game. Gives your a great perspective about the tragedy of war
Honestly probably one of my favorite games from the p4 era
You make great videos, and this one is just as good. Such an amazing game, such a great blend of gameplay, ideas, and atmosphere. Glad you made a video talking about this very under appreciated game
Glad you enjoy it!
Yugoslavia moment.
Super excited to watch this ive always wanted to play this game
As a Bosniak coming from Gracanica, this suprised me!!! The fact they bothered to base it on the siege of Sarajevo during the Bosnian war was suprising, since we are mostlz ignored as people just trzing to scrap by.
I love your intro !!! Especially when you say: A morbid effect of after war !!! It’s the whole point of the game ... not shooting ppl, not survival within a war ... it’s survival after the war !! Love this game !!
You mentioned 3 of my favorite games in the first 20 seconds, instantly subscribed
I haven't played this very much, and most of the time we died one by one. But i did beat it once. I killed a lot of people during that playthrough. Felt bad after that
I played the heck out of it since it was the only game that can work in my laptop before it died. I tried everything from being self-sufficient to just rob some people at gunpoint.
My experience with the elderly couple was similar, but I did not quit when I realized I had killed them. Instead I got to watch the guilt eat up the character that came to the realization with me as I tried to get their motivation up with different in-game luxuries like the guitar, cigars, coffee, radio, r&r, etc. None of it worked, he ended up committing suicide and I almost fucking cried because of how powerless I felt. I just wanted to save the people I had grown attached to, I didn't want to harm the elderly couple and I didn't want to see the people I was caring for die because of what I forced them to do.
Thanks for this, i hope you know how special a video like this is. Very well produced too btw.
Glad you enjoyed it!
this was a great game, I finished it with every character and no deaths.
haven't played it for years but I will never forget it.
some tips: craft an axe asap and chop all furniture into timber. build beds, wood stove, barricade the house.
only eat when very hungry, craft cigarettes and alcohol, trade these at the military base
trade medicines, bandages etc with the trader for timber and parts
do not steal or kill, otherwise your players will get depressed and sick.
I'm quite exprienced with this game, yet, a playthrough that involes no stealing and killing is still quite hard, especially during the winter or when the shelter has up to 4 people. This game is truly a morality test for everyone who play it and probaly one of the best game ever made.
An excellent story my man
Bosnia simulator 2007
Based video, lets gooooooOO
I'm now on Day 35.
Marko died on Day 25 from gunshot while infiltrating the warehouse full of armed men.
Bruno died on Day 30 from sickness never making out of winter.
Katia ran away on Day 33 due to depression.
Damn I started out steamrolling this after trying a few of the builds and what I could construct from them but when Marko died, it slowly took everything away from me. Still surviving though as a sick, depressed and tired Pavle. I never robbed the old people's home yet but it no longer matters because I'm doing good on food and supplies. My real problem is his depression and if I rob the old people who knows, he might unalive himself.
ah he is a men of culture playing dow
I love that game it make you think
Another Slavic game that convinces you that suicide isn't such a bad idea.
Sage of Sari'yovo... that sounds like a nice fantasy boss name, actually.
bro I robbed tf out them old people like ohhhh yall got goodies
Great content bro
Appreciate it!
I’ve got a little quistion does each character have a different story so you can play each of them
Good review, my dude! The complete edition is currently AU$3 on the Switch E-Shop! Not sure if it's still donating it's profits to the Ukraine like a previous comment mentioned, but it's a great deal that seems too good to pass up. Just hope I actually feel like playing it with how distraught I've been about the state of the world 😅
I first discovered this game through Kubz Scout (forgive spelling) and It felt very different from other games. Because of that, it stuck with me and I played it once and it felt weird, but a good kind of weird
This kind of gameplay a lot of Devs miss especially in RPGs,there is no cost of being good and helping everyone "cough Bethesda cough".I'm just now playing frostpunk and I'm not even flinching at letting injured refugees freeze outside my crater when survival hangs by a thread.
I remember playing it cuz it was fun, yeah I did not really focus what the games lesson is about.
If anything. This is DEFCON levels of scary.
Us Poles have a real affinity for making hyper deppressing gut wrenching games. Hell just look at Frostpunk, literally the same devs
Yeah i don't play games that are like that for reasons. I want to enjoy myself playing the game, not have a moral dilemma. I've deployed to Afghanistan as a soldier and before i deployed, i witnessed the aftermath of my brother attempting suicide. I could've been shipped to the depths of Hell itself but nothing was as traumatizing for me as seeing him tired to a hospital bed with life support. Every year from the beginning of September until the end of October my mind goes through that memory if i give it the chance to think about it. I play videos to escape this world to keep my mind active. It also helps me deal with my various pains I'm dealing with as well. PTSD is no joke and it is known as the silent killer of veterans for a reason, which is eventually they decide to permanently toss in the towel if they don't properly cope with it. I avoid games that deal with this kind of subject matter for that reason mostly, however if you enjoy that, that's on you, but i wouldn't be surprised if you stop playing because this game gets too deep.
I remember the first time I played, our group was running out of supplies and one of our people got very sick. I had to make the tough decision of murdering and robbing the elderly couple at the Quiet House. I found out by my second play through that you didn’t even need to murder them so I just took very little and left
Great review I played it a lot but in the end had to stop playing I found it too depressing and as a lifelong pacifist and peace campaigner it was not a good fit for me. That said any game that can make you think and challenge your belief system is quite an impressive piece of work!
reality is often disappointing but it is always there
What if someone punch you in the face, would you just kneel down?
Just picked it up on eshop for 1.99$
You sound like the guy from films comics explained
This game broke me
Can i ask for the name of those two games you played on the intro
For those who just bought this game, be ready! this game is depressive, it will make you cry, angry and it will trigger your anxiety.
I played this for a litle while on my phone
ayeeeee
This war of yaboiii
I'm here after it became school reading in Poland
This is my favorite game its so realistic. Most of the time in video games a just mercilessly slaughter everyone but this one it just felt wrong because of the people cowering and the home with old people.
Edit: When I beat the wife to death she dropped 2 gems so sometimes its an option
im honestly scared of playing it... its always a huge undertaking to pickup a new game these days especially a demanding one
What Civilisation game is that in the first few seconds?
Even though its "Just a game" i find it is pretty easy to find the people with psychopathic tendencies on any game forum. They usually are so nonchalant about it. It usually goes something like "This guy who helps you has a lot of jewels, so just kill him and take his jewels."
Yea indeed this game is just a personality test
stating a fact or giving advice about a video game indicates one's tendency towards psychopathy? what are you even saying. you need to stop playing so many games and reconnect with reality
@@drinkmorewater8791 I'm just saying it bothers me to do evil stuff in games. It is a role playing game, as in you take on the part of the main characters. Even if i decide in my head that "Roman in my evil character" I still don't like killing innocent people with him. Some people have an attitude of "Its just a game and pixels" but I find people who can separate what they are doing so easily could do it in real life as well. Like the soldier who says "I was just following orders."
@@tomm1109 No, what you are saying is you are the one with the problem and you are projecting those issues on everybody else. Your 'logic' is right up there with 'violent video games make you kill people' nonsense
You are clearly having difficulty separating fantasy from reality. 'Its just a game' isn't an attitude, its reality and trying to claim otherwise makes you sound nuts
@@JS-wp4gs you are entitled to your opinion.
feels like id rather just join one of the factions to eat at that point.
i love evil runs on fallout and this game sounds perfect for evil runs
There are more severe consequences for playing evil in "this war of mine" than in fallout. It adds another layer to be aware of. The human psyche.
@@highroller6244 It’s interesting to think if this was a thing in Fallout
Like your morality affecting your other stats in unique ways
"It's just a game"
The game:
Thank you bro. I really want. To play a real game. if this game has a random Event. Would be Fun. and enjoyable. Or maybe it other some great idea or good.
yeah there no right or wrong answer until your hole group gets sad then depressed🙄 I'm like its him or you accept this new life
It's so brutal and kinda fun given the high risk.
Boris, bruno and Katia, food was running scarce and we were on winter, Katia was starving to death, Bruno was shot on his last scavenging mission, Boris was the only one able to go out, there was some survivors that I traded once, they had food and I didn't, Boris killed everyone only leaving one person alive while Boris sacked their entire base.
Roman sucks, when you get to late game he becomes so temperamental if he's left in the house at night he attacks the other survivors, meaning to save yourself the hassle of having to stockpile bandages you have to instead send him out night after night.
if i remember correctly, cigarettes and beer keeps him normal
Putin should play this game..
You should check out dead state, its kinda similar tho the mid game drags on.
I dont care about the reviews. *STAND TOGETHER! SUPPORT VICTIMS OF WAR IN UKRAINE!*
I pirated this game, loved it and bought it on console. In fact, every game I've ever pirated that I loved, I bought on pc or console. That being said, on console, it's harder for me to queue control of your survivors vs PC. Am I the only one who had trouble with this?
I was so used to the quickness of mouse movements from one survivor to the next, the console version slowed me down when time is of the essence.
Yeah this game is amazing
Do not play it on PlayStation. It’s so buggy. And it crashes every time you scavenge. I saw a soldier about to rape a girl at the market. I opened the door and tried to aim at the soldier but it kept aiming at the girl I was trying to save. I decided maybe it’s cause I need a gun. So I restarted and had a gun. I open the door the girl runs it locks on the girl and I kill her. 😐
Yes but it cost £11 I’m gonna get just not now
I see alot of comparison to ukraine
With all due respect, it wasn't a civil war. It would have been impossible in a civil war for one side to besiege the capital city as Serbs did besiege Sarajevo for the entire war. The Bosnian war was an aggression of RBiH by Serbs, instructed out of Serbia, done by Bosnian Serbs and Serbs from Serbia in lesser count.
Yugoslav wars simulator
bump
i read the game punishes you harshly for theft..no matter the reason or the why or anything...
You don't need to be in war for that. Go to live in Cuba and you will get a real life experience
This game about to get a lot of donations
It lags a lot :(
Alternatively, play Civ 5 Vox Populi on high difficulty on start hating war with a seething passion
Controlling one person would be way more realistic and controls bad. Way too strange for me.
The game lacked content
A few things that ruined this game for me...
The worst for me was when players would be "Broken". I understand the idea and even kind of like it, but it happens way too easily in my opinion. If you steal or kill someone you almost instantly become depressed or broken. That bothers me because in this game we all know you have to steal and kill if you're gonna make it past day 5. To me it's completely unavoidable, and most times you can't talk your way out of it either.
Another big deal to me is how they pretty much throw you under the bus immediately. My first few playthroughs (if you want to call them that) I was starving, exhausted, and depressed before I knew how to make a bed. And without Roman guarding the house you will almost definitely be attacked and robbed every night.
I’ve made it to at least 11 without hurting, stealing, or killing anyone, and could have made it many more.
It's not the game, it's you. You can survive without killing anyone. As for stealing, that's a different story.
This game has a deep learning curve.. many times I exited the game because i want to reenact the scenario… got frustrated so what i did i, read the guides online and fell in love more with this game.. sound cheesy but this game is hard for first timers without the knowledge of the gameplay.
What? Not at all. I've beaten the game on every character set playing entirely non-violent, and with zero stealing. It's much more difficult to do perfectly moral playthroughs, but trust me, they are entirely possible.
america in the next 12 years
Cringe
Tru
I was able to get 20 free steam keys of this game 😊🤗🤣
First day: "Let's try our best to live and be better than bandits."
30 days later: "This isn't fair, I shouldn't have lived this long killing those people for my own end, I'm sorry."
Ok. I just bought this on Switch.
Any game that inspires someone to recommend Robert Evans is ok in my book.
Everyone should listen to the Podcasts he does. Behind the Bastards is great. He’s on The Worst Year Ever with Katie and Cody-showdy. It Could Happen Here is *required* listening (also it’s about to change formats. Season one was a ten part narrative. Season two will be a daily show)
Thanks for the feedback on the other video. And I actually have gotten around to listening to Behind the Bastards yet, I’ll have to do that!
@@yaboiii6562 no problem! I think you made an excellent video.
It’s an excellent podcast, and it fits in with Evan’s body of work. It’s nuts the way we’ve all been messed with and screwed over.
Maybe start with one of the lighter, funnier topics, move up to things like the Bastards who started the CIA… and only then go for the episodes on Josef Mengele.
This game is impossible dude I can't make it past day 15
Try the pale beyond. That shit is good and just as difficult. Not so much like this but somewhat similar.
You can make it to the end, but will requires some immoral practices to maintain your group. Ofcourse, without stealing from other people, the game will be quite hard.
@@iloveanothermanswives4278 I play DayZ quite a bit so that being said... It wouldn't be too hard for me to survive 😂😂
I'm hoping that people in Ukraine aren't being subjected to such things right now in mid 2022.
They get raided anyway and end up dying