(2/2) CC3D Revolution and LibrePilot: Wiring and basic setup
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- You can see the CC3D Revo we are using by visiting bit.ly/1XOBu5k and you can see frame kit we are using by visiting bit.ly/1OsTNmq
In this video we setup and fly the CC3D Revolution Mini and using LibrePilot.
In the next video we will add GPS and look at how you can configure the GPS module if it's not working.
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Happy flying!
I also love CC3D. I experienced my first CC3D with the 54 USD zonda hobby esky 150x heli . 54 dollars includes the transmitter. The stability is in a whole new dimension than any old school helicopter 3 gyro control boards.
you must be a very patient person ( compliment ) to do these very detailed tutorials : )
Lovely tidy build of the Emax 200!
Lee - The bits picture at 6:05 looks like my setup, but the diagram at 7:12 shows the Revo mini output leads reversed. Since tech details and pinouts from the makers are not available for many of our Chinese joytoys this introduced a bit of confusion for me. I buggered one of the original harnesses and made another, but I got it wrong by using positions. Your diagram shows correct connections by color coding, but the left-to-right orientation of the lead colors on the FC is reversed. That said, your video series have become my go-to source of study for nearly everything R/C. Sincere thanks.
Hello how are you doing. I have Been flying quads for a while and seen where people are goint to clean flight for the cc3d. I was wondering what flight config you like better Libre or cleanflight for the cc3d FC. Be Blessed
For CC3D then use Librepilot or TAULABS, if you want Cleanflight then get a STM32F3 based flight controller now..
Great video. I just set up the CC3D Revolution but mine seems to drift all around. Doesn't hover. When you said you are using autolevel, how is that set up? Did you have to tweak any flight modes? Thanks for making this video. Looking forward to the GPS video.
See the CC3D video on flight modes in the CC3D playlist. Every part of the setup we did to hover we show in the video.. I would check the RC calibration. Best of luck!
Hey. Thanks for the video. Helps a lot with my build. A 150 quad with a cc3d mini. I was wondering if there was a name for those connectors going into the flight controller? I might have to purchase more in the future. lol.
Great help video.
Did you skip Flight mode switch settings on purpose. What should I setup initially?
Thanks
+W Morris We cill cover flight modes later in the series. I use angle or Horizon mostly..
thanks great videos. great information. I've been stuck on your channel for a week now.
Thank you for the feedback, I hope the videos are helping.. Happy flying!
At 7:29 the diagram shows reversed wires for the motors as to what the board in your hand has as well as the one in mine. Could fry some boards ;). Always like your videos man
I'm waiting on that gps vid! Always wanted Alt. hold,and RTH,but never wanted a Naza,and I'm not familiar with Multiwii ! I've never had a CC3D,but I've always had the program in my PC(1st Open Pilot 14 - 15,now Libre Pilot),just to familiarize myself with it. I have KK2 1.5's now,but want a Revo to play with the features!!
+im2tall1 Coming soon! Keep an eye on the playlist. If you want the cool GPS features then you can also consider APM or Pixhawk.. Happy flying!
very nice, I like your videos, you explain things in such an educational way, can't wait to see the gps video
+Peter LEŠNIK You can preview it in the playlist (th-cam.com/video/WFsO-Z7zE0A/w-d-xo.html)
Hi! Nice video has always! I just finished building a zmr180 clone and my esc's say they are oneshot125 but in librepilot when choosing the esc's I cannot choose oneshot. I haven't look for an answer but can tell me what is wrong?
When we calibrate the esc's does the program let you move on if the esc's are not calibrated? I know it sounds stupid but I didn't hear those beeps when I calibrated mine.
I'd check the versions you are using. Best of luck with the research..
Hi Painless, I really like your videos and the way you explain staff!
I've recently purchased a FlySky FS-i6S radio with a FS-iA6B receiver and I'd need to hook it on my CC3d mounted on a KDS Kylin 250. I've now succesfully managed to connect my old hiteco ptic 6 and this new radio to the FC with PWM, but to do this I had to unsolder some bridge on the ESCs disabling the ONE Shot feature. Now that this one has the iBUS capability, I'd like to re-bridge the ESCs and connect it with the single cable, could you help me out in that? I have a servo cable and I guess I should use ONLY that, but I'm not sure whether I should connect it to the servo like port I have on the board, then to the iBus/servo port on the RX
Thanks!
Right nowi build one cop, with your video. geart THx
Great video as usual! I recently purchased a 3D printer also (my wife doesn't like me watching your TH-cam channel!) and noticed your FrSky D4R-II mount looks good. Is that an original or is it available to download and print? One other question: I guess this video series applies overall to the original CC3D Revolution also?
+petwog Sorry about the extra expenses ;) All of the models we show on the channel I share on Thingiverse. Search for 'Painless360' and you'll find us on there. This series applies to any of the CC3D Revo boards, we just happen to have the little version.. Happy flying!
Hi, Thanks for the video. May I ask a question. I crashed an SRD 260 Storm Racing Drone and wiped out the flight controller, replaced it with another CC3D controller, set it up on Libre Pilot. All the motors run, the drone has a Bind with the transmitter, the transmitter controls follow the pattern on screen, but despite setting it up a few times, the transmitter won't start the Drone! Unfortunately I don't understand most of the abbreviations for the setup. Under Flight Data, It has MASTER CAUTION. Under INPUT- RC warning. BOOT- Fault. MEM- Warning. STACK-Critical. Could you give me any ideas for this problem please? Thanks. John ( I will pick up any messages tomorrow Morning.)
I've not used CC3D for a few years. I'd search in the forums and documentation for thar error. Best of luck!
great work once again - mick
Hello, great videos :-) I have a question if you don't mind, I would like to change out my CC3D that came in my Eachine 250 Racer and replace it with the CC3D Revolution so that I can get Altitude Hold. Can this be done using LibrePilot which is what I am using now. And is there anything else I should be aware of? Thanks, Grandpa Jake
+Grandpa Jake (FunTimeGrandpa) Not sure, you'd have to do a little soldering as the connections to the wires use pins installed upside down.. Best of luck with it..
i see that you connected the 3 wires to the PPM connection on your receiver . my receiver is a small S Bus and also have 3 wires . will this work or do i need some adopter . also if i use GPS and S bus at the same time ...do they go in the same socket like in the regular big revolution board or was this solved in the mini version . thank you
+Sharon Fedida check out the documentation for the CC3D and Librepilot. The Sbus connection usually needs to go into one of the ports, not the main receiver inputs. Best of luck!
Scratching my head as to why I did it that way but I have been running an S-bus receiver to the sonar port for months with no issues. The official documentation shows that is should go to the mainport. My guess is all three ports on the left side will work, but it's probably best to go with the officially recommended port (Main).
Hi another fantastic and informative series from Painless 360 keep up the excellent work. Just a quick question i have build the exact craft you have and all is great but i have exactly the same fault as you it drifts backwards i am using a Turnigy TGI i10.
+tony howkins I reset the accelerometer and it seemed better. The cog was slightly off too. A action camera in the nose helped..
What about the ground wires of the ESCs? Some will misbehave if these are not connected. I wonder where though? Would I just splice the ground that is used to provide the REVO with power?
I always like to have ours connected, especially with the OPTO ESCs. If in doubt - connect them..
Your video was very helpful, thanks!!!
Great videos! Thank you!
Hello nice video can we use sbus with this flight controller and if so where is the port we use
+The Other Guys FPV Racing The Other Guys You've Googled this question - right? ;) librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/CC+Hardware+Configuration
Hello,
in your video you use ESC's with the 2 cables. that means you need a the 5v power connection right? So if my ESC's have the 3 cables the 5v connection isn't necessary?
Yes, that is correct. See our videos on OPTO ESCs.. Best of luck!
Hi, have you worked with the CC3D EVO? Is there a difference between the EVO and Revolution in setup through Libreflight?
We've used loads of different 'versions' of the CC3D and they all seem to work the same. Not sure if we've used the exact one you're asking about though..
ok, i will keep working on it. i think it may be an ESC. It dosent seem to keep the calibration after i calibrated them all individually.
Will the oplink 433 reduce the need of the original 2.4 GHz reciever? Can i buy the kit you use and only use instead of my DJI NAZA and FRSKY X8R?
Not really. The radio uses 2.4Ghz, FPV 5.8Ghz and the telemetry setup uses 915/433Mhz. Happy flying!
Thank you!
do you have a ccd3(normal version) pid tuning video hiding in one of these playlists somewhere?
+Smokey_Vaping I have a PID tuning video designed to provide enough to tune any model/software. I find the CC3D and Revo very forgiving and able to fly most things very well on the defaults..
Hey Painless360
, i have one question, that i can't get an answer on.
My problem is i have a Hexacopter, and i need more outputs. For example an discovery Buzzer or something like that.
So my question is, can i use the receiver port, if i use ppm + outputs, as an Esc output?
If it's possible, can you make a video about it.
Not sure, I'd have a look in the forums. Sorry I can't be more help..
Did you run each motor up before you heat shrinked/shrunk the ESC, to check direction. If not, then what.
+Barry Cole Sorted, not to worry.
Hi. I know this is a fairly old video but it's one of the reasons I chose the Revo Mini. I have a problem. When i do the ESC calibration it doesn't seem to to do the low frequency countdown and the motor synch is a mess. Motors are Racerstar 2206 and the esc's are 25a MS series Racerstar. Any suggestions on how to update or calibrate the esc's. Thanks Allan
We've had a few exciting times with BLHeli and Betaflight on the channel, I've not had your exact setup here but we've always found flashing to the latest version helps.. Best of luck!
Thanks. Any tips for a slightly overwhelmed newbie on how to get cleanflight, Inav etc onto the revo mini. currently using Librepilot
Hi, I wonder if you have tried Dshot ESC with the CC3D Revo and
liberpilot? if yes, what ESC configuration setting did you use? thanks
for your time.
I've not tried it. A quick look in the documenation for Librepilot doesn't mention it either.. Looks like they've not got to that yet. Best of luck!
I was able to find a pre-release version of Librepilot and was able to get d-shot working. Here is a link to the file incase you are interested. drive.google.com/file/d/0B5d_9OcqQj8BcnRxWmxpUUJCR0U/view
Hi Professor, would you recommend soldering the motors wires in the right direction, instead of flashing the ESC with motor reverse, instead? The new Rapid flash app on Google App, is pretty handy for this on SimonK, as well as the GUI for Windows on BLHeli doing so... Since I discovered the Firmwares existed for both rotations, I do not care so much on the motor wires ESC soldering, but rather ensure they are places in lines properly, and then reflash the ESCs with the correct firmware... Would you believe such practices are ok, flashing CCW firmwares on ESCs!? So far so good after a few weeks, might over heat a bit, bit not sure if it is due to trims or ESCs firmware. Tks again for you much inspiring videos. Cheers and Safe Flying!
Both are options to sort out motor direction. We show the method in the video as it will work for any ESC and requires no extra steps. Happy flying!
Alright then! Tks for your feedback Mr Lee. Cheers ;) Looks like a great frame this little one, with a step deck! Feels promising, Indeed...
+FPV Cambodia
As long as noone messed up in the blheli code, there should be no difference at all between CW and CCW rotation (it's just the output transistors switching 3-2-1 instead of 1-2-3). And you shouldn't need a separate CCW firmware. blheli lets you set the direction with the blheli suite. If you use cleanflight you can even configure the ESCs via the flightcontroller.
I meant you need to reflash the firmware with separate settings for SimonK; BLHeli, I do not use! A great app called "Rapid Flash" for SimonK on Google Chrome is now now available doing the same as the BlHeli Suite; and you have to reflash the firmware with CCW, but Hey, I trust this is just semantic, right?
FPV Cambodia
If I were nitpicking (I never do ;) ), I'd say it's more than semantics. With blheli you really just set an option, but don't reflash the whole firmware (much in the same way you configure your flight controller; you don't reflash it every time you want to change an option). The advantage is that if for some reason you don't have the full firmware of your ESC (because your nice chinese seller doesn't tell you which one to use or even made a custom change to it) you can still configure it. It's also faster and in theory options could even be changed "on the fly" (but hopefully not "in flight" ;) ) by your flight controller (if it knows the options of the ESCs firmware).
thank you. do i have to plug the motor to a 5 volt from the power distributor. as you mentioned on the begin of you video . i am using blheli 30A. please respond need help
+user new just follow the series and all should be covered. We also have a few 'Quadcopter building for beginners ' series too that may be useful for a first build!
r=thank you sir. i start doing it. and i reach testing the motor and i got: for the motor1: 1179 motor2: 1100 motor3 1077 and motor4: 1200. the motor does not have the same starts value it is normal or i did something wrong. thank for helping
That is normal. If they are all the same after calibration then it hasn't worked ;) Best of luck with the maiden!
thank you
it is up to you you gave the courage to built it my self
thank you again
Did I miss something. As far as I could see you only connected the signal wire to the ESCs, surely they need a negative wire too??
+Barry Cole Nope. ;)
All set up as per your video. Flight data page showed all movements in the correct directions. Motors turning correctly. 1+3 CW 2+4 CCW. On initial lift off, flipped violently to the right. Any ideas.
+Barry Cole see our video that deals with the common causes of flips on take off. ..
+Painless360 Thanks, I think it may be a problem with the props. Waiting for new ones..
do I need a antivibration plate for the cc3d mini? if so do you recommend one. gonna be putting it in a 270mm robocat. thanks for any help
I've never used one here and not had a problem. Make sure the blades are balanced and best of luck!
Hiya, can you flash iNavFlight onto this board and if so, how is it done? (eg; through cleanflight/LibrePilot??) Cheers ;)
I'd flash it with Dronin now..
Painless360
Thanks ;)
My question is in regards to wiring an external status light for the Revo. I'm attempting to utilize the Flexi Port's first three Pins - , + , Signal . I've first set the Flexi Port for Diagnostics and the WS2811LED out set for Flexi Pin 3. It seems I'm still missing something... Perhaps I'm confused thinking I can use the Flexi Port this way? But since the seup allows me to set it for Diagnostics it seems like I should be able to do this? I know that the Flexi I-O Ports Pins 3 & 4 are currently not wired but I have no idea as to how to insert wires into those Miro plugs. What am I missing?
+Terry Shaw We will be looking at this in a future video for the revo so stay tuned!
+Painless360 This would be much appreciated.... And please know you've been wildly helpful to me, thank you so much for what you do!
A preview for you ;) th-cam.com/video/Xpn_LoAZ3_w/w-d-xo.html
+Painless360 Oh believe me I could nearly quote all your Revo videos! Mine is the board with the built in OPLink and has a 10 pin micro plug for the Flexi-IO port. It's outfitted with only eight wires. 3 and 4 are empty. I'm now assuming that the data output I need is coming from that pin 3. What I was hoping was since the 4 pin Flexi Port has the ability to be configured for Diagnostics that its Pin 3 would also work and they provided a nice 4 pin micro plug with the board. Pins 1 and 2 do provide power. But I cannot seem to get the signal to work. It may be the 8 LED bar I purchased. I bought and also tried some individual LEDs. I can't even get them to flicker. Now I'm looking 3 point strips. Thank you for your replies!!!
I struggled with the Pin3/4 on the flexiport. That's why I show the PWM connections - works a lot better..
Just wondering, have you install an minimOSD to the CC3D Rev? Been trying to install a mini with R1.7 and unable to get that to work. Thanks for your time.
The install should be the same as the CC3D. See the series on the channel where we added one. I have had some clone CC3D flight controllers that didn't like one port or another for some reason.. Best of luck!
yes, I had seen those video and that works fine with the CC3D/cleanflight. Currently, the CC3D revo is set to output telemetry via the FlexiIO connector. minimOSD config for LiberPilot. Unable to get into the OSD menu using the TX (throttle mid, yaw right, pitch forward). After that time out, no AH or most of the data on the screen. Went thru the Liberpilot document a few time and no luck... :)
Where did you download Librepilot GCS from? I have a ublox m8n that I have tried to connect to ublox center but it doesn't work, and my cc3d revo doesn't wan't to connect to the version of librepilot either? Do you have any tips?
Regards,
Otto
Google it, you will find it. We show where in the start of the series..
Also try another USB cable, delete device in device manager, all the basics.. Best of luck!
Did you put anything in between the fc and the pdb besides double stick tape
I have placed a piece of insulated MuMetal here as the FC is very close to the PDB and there is a chance of RFI and EMF affecting the onboard magnetometer. We will look at this in a later video showing the GPS modes..
Having Issue while using Libre Pilot.
After upgrading the board with the firmware from liberpilot
my CC3D atom (hobbyking) is not reboting and disconnected from PC and liber pilot showing the error message.
to come out from this I have find out trick that first removing all the power source from the controller and after waiting few second I am providing power from the BEC and allowing the board to normal boot than be able to connect again to liber pilot fro usb.
can you find out why it is happing having issue with 3nos cc3d atom purchased from hobbyking.
thaning you in advance and waiting for your reply
+Mohsin Pathan Happy to help but please watch th-cam.com/video/olIqTiSJHIY/w-d-xo.html and come back to me with more detail of what you've tried..
Thanks for your reply
Hello I have just downloaded this for the old cc3d. all goes ok but then u get to the transmitter bit. it says move the sticks as shown so I do but carnt get past the throttle bit. I am using the flysky fs i6 with the b receiver can you advise me
+neil200830 The throttle is the first control it tries - I'd check the wiring and that the Rx is bound to the radio.. Best of luck!
Just trying to setup the controller with Frsky X8R receiver, using S-Bus. Not having any luck, are there any problems doing this??
+Barry Cole Any chance of an answer to this, please
+Barry Cole S-BUS setup is covered in the manual (librepilot.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LPDOC/Revolution+Configuration), there is a few threads on the forums about odd S-Bus problems but we've not tried it here...
+Painless360 I got a receiver that outputs CCPM, works fine, but you should try the S-Bus for us sometime.
That's all covered in the documentation - you need to use a port. My advice is use PPM with a CC3D..
do I need a cc3d revo board to work libraflight or I can use cc3d atom with libraflight as well ??
Both work fine..
nice videos!!!
Hello there,
My Dx6i doesnt seem to show it is being recieved by librepilot GCS.
I am trying to complete the input config menu but they seem to not speak to each other.
Hope you can help, Algy
+Algy O'Connell Happy to help but please watch th-cam.com/video/olIqTiSJHIY/w-d-xo.html and come back to me with more detail of what you've tried..
From what I gather I was clicking on a pre setup version to complete the setup.
I was also trying to use PPM rather than PWM. :) Very rewarding to have it fly.
could you please make a video for a fixed wing!
the problem is the power and ground for the servos. this PDB is totally useless for a fixed wing, or at least I don´t have a clue how to do it. I really appreciate if you could help me. thanks
Please see the CC3D series where I did that. Happy flying!
Hi buddy. Can I adjust the slight drifting issues in Librepilot?
You should be able to. Check our my video on what to check if you model drifts.. Hope that helps..
Painless360 I think this is a board related problem, props are balanced, cc3d revo is about 5cm above the pdb.calibrated 4 times from the scratch and still getting north on the wrong side. thanks for ra eply
gave up on it, cc3d is mounted on moon gel with a mu metal. Props are balanced as well as the motors, the same thing, totally unpredictable. Probably faulty board from hobby kong
Is this controller compatible with JR xbus?
Does the cc3d/librepilot support i-bus (Flysky)?
+Leo van Miert If it does it will be covered in the Librepilot documentation, I've not seen it...
hi ive a problem with flysky i6 can not connect it to the quad ,tried the to connect to LibrePilot all ok till connecting controller it will not connect can you help.
Happy to help but please watch th-cam.com/video/olIqTiSJHIY/w-d-xo.html and come back to me with more detail of what you've tried..
Hey bro ,what makes them jumpy on hard landings ,yours just did it .Ckeck the video .I have been looking for the cure for this for a year,lol seriously !I have 3 or 4 quads and all w cc3d yea!and they allfly a bit diffrent, but some flip over on rought landings .wth over?ive resorted to landing one in the grass allways ,the small qavs do it worse than the say 250s.i have a 180 that flips out on landings every time ..ive tried turnng down the pids ,no luck .im very open to any help u can give?thanx friend!and thank you for the great series on the cc3d i for 1 appreciate it .i go back to them from what ever im experimenting with and i have flown them all.thank you again. from sunny florida.
+Chris Harris tuning and propwash. The only flight controller I've had that didn't do that out of the box is the KISS one..
Thanks ,I will figure it out .
+Chris Harris if it's flipping completely on landings then make sure you're not landing with airmode turned on. I disarm the quad just above the grass and let it fall the last few inches.. Best of luck
no airmode on libre pilot i see.lol
cleanflight ,ok.or am i missin the bus?
+Chris Harris lol! Missed the CC3D bit. Never had that here with a CC3D.. sorry I can't be more help..
I am unable to set up the transmitter wizard. The transmitter shows that it is connected to the receiver but there is no receiver activity seen by the application. Please help me...
Sorry, I've not used CC3D for many years.. Best of luck!
Painless360 Thanks 😊
i cant get the radio to comunicate with the reciver on ppm if i go back to pwm work fine
+yul merced make sure the single three wire cable is plugging into the right place. I've had setups that use the first signal wire, and a few that used pin 8. Best of luck!
Hi,
I was wondering if this would work:
I want to get GPS telemetry data to my taranis X9D screen, I have a X8R receiver, this GPS (www.banggood.com/Ublox-NEO-M8N-GPS-For-Mini-CC3D-CC3D-Atom-CC3D-Revolution-Flight-Controller-Built-in-Compass-p-999341.html) and a CC3D revolution FC.
My thought was to use the Smartport on my receiver and connect the correct cables from the GPS to my smartport. But I wasn't so sure on which cables though. The X8R receiver S.Port only has three inputs whilst the GPS has four outputs.
I'm just thinking of different solutions, but do you think that this is plausible?
Regards,
Otto
+InterBlue UF No it's not - without something else in between. a GPS will normally only talk using a serial protocol and with UBLOX or NMEA. SmartPort is a digital network of devices. You can add a GPS to a FC and then pass that details to an OSD but Librepilot doesn't' support this at the moment. You can get a SmartPort GPS unit that plus directly in.. www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__58201__FrSky_GPS_V2_Sensor_with_SMART_Port_1pc_.html
+Painless360 ok, well then I'll skip that part and pay attention to the LED's on the FC instead. Because the GPS I linked is compatible isn't it?
how to conect vbat on cc3d?
+Ditjen KSDAE check out the documentation for librepilot. It's all covered in there. Best of luck!
thanks for the information
Anyone else having trouble downloading librepilot, I get an error every time??
+Don Johnson Working here..
Maybe its my computer, i'll try to download on my laptop and see what happens. Great video's and channel you have here. I never would have got my Robocat off the ground if it weren't for you and Bruce from RcmodelReview. Keep the video's coming and happy flying!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, my brain cannot understand that, could you explain a little more please.
+Barry Cole Happy to - please see the website for details of chargeable one-to-one support..
+Painless360 Website, what website?? Right I may have figured it out. The esc although not bec, must generate a working voltage for the processor. So if the negative of that, is connected to the negative battery lead, then all the negatives get connected together, and all is happiness and light...