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Small body, plastic case, one camera on the back, physical home button, plenty battery life... please. Millions of us just don't want the current crop of gigantic phones.
Without Touch ID the SE. line has no point for me. I can get any of millions other peoples. I'm here only for Touch ID. What's wrong with apple strategy?
And it's the "normies" that previously have been buying SE models??? I thought that Pro Max and regular models are Apple's bestsellers!? And the SE4 is not replacement for regular model (you can still buy an iPhone 15), but for the iPhone SE 2022 with 4,7' screen. So, why not in a "mini" size?
I am a very satisfied user of the SE3 2022, for me touch id is better than face id and the mini dimensions suit me very well. I don't really care about the cameras and the rest. Plus the new model will certainly not cost $430 and will be worse than the cheapest full iPhone
I've now got the SE-3. Personally, I like it. Sure, it's only 90% as good as the most modern phone, but at literally a fraction of the price. Besides, for me the display and camera are more than good enough, and I carry my Leica around still as needed for special photo occasions.
why would the action button need a cutout when the volume buttons don't ?! my bet is on good ol regular mute switch.great video tho. love your style. keep it up ! 💜✌
For everyone complaining about the notch vs dynamic island. The notch has stayed in production for 5.5 yrs. While it did shrink a bit at the end, the notch has had more time to be cheap to manufacturer compared to the island being currently 2 and 3 by the end of this yr. So it makes sense for apple to short change customers by using the notch. Is it _right_ or ideal, no. But its a business move--its logical.
The best Iphone would be the size of the iphone 8 without bezels (or atleast smaller) and a better screen, even though I do not really need more than I have now in my Iphone Series 2. In addition to that a slightly better camera and a newer chip. I love the design of the iphone 8 the feel is great and I love my phone. I used it for the past four years now and I really dont regret buying it.
in what world would they put the a17 pro in there ?? 💀 even the a16 is a stretch given the 15's have it and it would only be a year after the normal base models have had it when it releases
Yeah hes literally describing a better iphone 14, just with a cheaper screen. There is no way they're gonna sell a better version of the 14 for 430 dollars or even 500.
It will start at $500-550. Unfortunately, way more in Europe. Probably €700. The primary camera will be the iPhone 11's 12MP sensor - definitely not the 48MP from the iPhone 15.
Bro this is just a naive wish list of all the best features we'd want in a $400 iPhone. Apple will never implement this big of an overhaul, especially not with the SE.
I really want apple to drop the se4, cus when then do Samsung will have to lock tf in with their A line phones. Cus, despite other manufacturers doing something Samsung won't, it seems they only respond when apple does something.
This have been rumored for so long….i wanted it for my parents (my mother in specific, she had my old 7), ended up buying the 15, it would last for a ton of years. If it’s more than a 6 months of waiting, I don’t think it’s worth it to be waiting for something that it’s not confirmed it will be realeased soon.
I have no problem with phones that have less features like the se3….i don’t need more than 12 megapixels. I hardly take pictures. There are others like me out there. So, Apple please continue to offer low end phones at a great price and I will continue to be a customer 😊
Screen, battery, cores, camera. That's where the cuts will most likely be as Apple forbid we get anything we truly want in a reasonably priced phone for once. One has to remember that this phone is actually designed for the corporate market and not the individual buyer.
Bugger that they have removed the fingerprint sensor. I love that on the old SE phone I have currently. Not worried about all bells n whistles, just want the old phone chips upgraded. The small size is great as it fits my back pocket. Not concerned about camera being upto latest, as I only take a few pics anyway.
I guess I'll get iPhone SE5 when they include 48mp hires cam, dynamic island, usb type c, a18 3nm chipset and satellite connection with ios 19 or 20 in 2025 or 2026 🤷
Going from LCD to oled is good for many but for pwm sensitive we are pretty much f****d now. We will have to hold on to the SE3 until a new screen tech fixes the pwm issues. I’m sure the OLED will be a cheap one w terrible hz/amplitude.
1:19 A cut out seems for you to confirm an action button? WHY!?😂 It makes absolutely no sense, that the volume buttons have no cut out, but the action button has.🤪
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no such thing as an se4
@@billybobs1705hes talking about the leaks he literally said that the se 3 is the latest one
The body should be of the 13 mini…
Why everyone think that if they merge the 2 worst selling model together, that will raise the sales..
@@TamasKiss-yk4st two negatives make a positive right?
I agree. The mini was amazing. But people only missed it once it was gone for good. Bought one for travel and nights out.
YESSSS
@@xSnappatwo negatives make one big negative 😅
Small body, plastic case, one camera on the back, physical home button, plenty battery life... please. Millions of us just don't want the current crop of gigantic phones.
At the very least they should go for the Mini series form factor
@Yormsane check the Unihertz Jelly Star
Check the "Unihertz - Jelly Star" .
We need Touch ID!
Without Touch ID the SE. line has no point for me. I can get any of millions other peoples. I'm here only for Touch ID. What's wrong with apple strategy?
If these leaks are accurate, there's absolutely no way it stays at $429
Exactly
Yeah, no way the money hungry company would sell it for that cheap.
I think there will be a price increse similar of the ipad 9 vs ipad 10
Yeah probably 500
Buttttt wheeeennnnnnn
If it was a mini I would buy and recommend it.
ok and no one else will, what is your point? Normies don't like small phones, techies do.
For real. No one actually needs a phablet. And some people need a normal sized phone.
And it's the "normies" that previously have been buying SE models???
I thought that Pro Max and regular models are Apple's bestsellers!?
And the SE4 is not replacement for regular model (you can still buy an iPhone 15), but for the iPhone SE 2022 with 4,7' screen.
So, why not in a "mini" size?
@@anires1195 oh .you talk for all normies? I'm a normie and I like small phones more than big phones. So what's your point?
Yes something that can fit I a normal shirt pocket
SE line should be the new mini version, so people have options if they dont like big size phone like me.
Agree 💯%.
If only it would come in that size, but little bit thicker, with a bigger battery, even me, an android user would buy one.
Small chance because small phones get less sales
Hope it will be similar size of mini
People don't buy small phones
Did you watch the video??
they should make it atleast like the iPhone X/XS
This iPhone SE4 design is 🔥🔥🔥. I've always preferred phones with a single rear camera.
huh?
@diamondsauthority4143 What are you saying huh to?
Bro prefers downgrades🔥🔥🔥
@RarePotatoHD Who said they prefer downgrades?
@@shawnvegavelez121Have you ever used ultrawide or telephoto Lens it's so great You can't do that with a a single Lens
Having switched from SE3 to the 15, im set for a while, but I wish this new SE4 came out this April…
fr bro 😢
When will it release?
Pls keep the touch ID, it’d be nice if the touch ID placed on wake button
I kind of agree. Only issue is that lots of people will have to go caseless
@@NoCluYTPhones with fingerprint sensors on their power button will always have cases giving a cut out for the power button.
@@NoCluYTNo? Android phones have had the fingerprint scanner on the power button for years and there is just a cutout
i have had my 12 mini for 3 years and hope the next SE would be based on the 13 mini frame. dont need it to be any bigger.
I am a very satisfied user of the SE3 2022, for me touch id is better than face id and the mini dimensions suit me very well. I don't really care about the cameras and the rest. Plus the new model will certainly not cost $430 and will be worse than the cheapest full iPhone
I miss having a red iPhone as that’s one of my favourite colours hopefully they can bring it back with the SE4
Should've been a 13 mini body. 🙄
I am glad I have an iPhone 13 Pro. I am on the Fibonacci upgrade cycle so can easily wait for the 21!
Iphone 13 mini sized se4 would be sooo cool. But this is good aswell
I've now got the SE-3. Personally, I like it. Sure, it's only 90% as good as the most modern phone, but at literally a fraction of the price. Besides, for me the display and camera are more than good enough, and I carry my Leica around still as needed for special photo occasions.
why would the action button need a cutout when the volume buttons don't ?!
my bet is on good ol regular mute switch.great video tho. love your style. keep it up ! 💜✌
I hope Apple keeps the SE phones compact in size.
5.8 inch SE and 6.5 inch SE+ would be soo good !
yeah, I like my 5.4" iPhone 13 mini size... but I think Apple will not launch small iPhones anymore. 😢
True
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I only wish for another mini body with the latest bells and whistles
Love it how you look at different camera angles! :)
I’d love it as a mini size
I want mini back
Should have used the iphone 13 mini size
bring back the mini format
Make it SMALL. There’s your special appeal. They’re gonna have to pry my 13 Mini from my cold dead hands, I’m never upgrading.
For everyone complaining about the notch vs dynamic island. The notch has stayed in production for 5.5 yrs. While it did shrink a bit at the end, the notch has had more time to be cheap to manufacturer compared to the island being currently 2 and 3 by the end of this yr. So it makes sense for apple to short change customers by using the notch.
Is it _right_ or ideal, no. But its a business move--its logical.
if its close to size of my 13 mini I would forsure buy one
13 regular size
I just can't wait for the iphone se 4 to come out I'm buying it I will buy it I'm ready to upgrade to the new iphone se 4
We actually had an iPhone 7 and a SE 2 at home. The Camera of the SE was way better than the 7.
I like the bezel and rounded sides design more than the new one. Just me?
I'd rather just get an SE 2022 (starlight) model than this new one, lol.
Mini or bust
Can it just be an iphone SE wherein it is internally upgraded without changing its original size? Cuz I want to have one.
The best Iphone would be the size of the iphone 8 without bezels (or atleast smaller) and a better screen, even though I do not really need more than I have now in my Iphone Series 2. In addition to that a slightly better camera and a newer chip. I love the design of the iphone 8 the feel is great and I love my phone. I used it for the past four years now and I really dont regret buying it.
If there are cases made this phone is coming out this summer
I hope we get the 2x zoom like on the 15 because of the new sensor 🥺
I would buy it
If it was mini.
I still love my SE 2 format, and I hope they do fix the length of battery life.
in what world would they put the a17 pro in there ?? 💀 even the a16 is a stretch given the 15's have it and it would only be a year after the normal base models have had it when it releases
Yeah hes literally describing a better iphone 14, just with a cheaper screen. There is no way they're gonna sell a better version of the 14 for 430 dollars or even 500.
@@RiqMoran😮😮😮
All the comments mentioning the mini. It's a little too late for that. The mini apparently didn't sell. Which sucks because I loved the 13 mini.
I’m gonna be pissed if the SE4 has an action button but the standard 15 doesn’t
SE4 with Dynamic Island would be great
5.8 should be the screen size.
0:50 170$ phones have 50mp Cameras
Mini's chassis with dynamic island would make great phone. SE - Small Edition. Please Apple bring back mini iphones.
Bigger battery
I still think the iPhone SE4 will replace the iPhone 14 when the iPhone 16 releases leaving only Usb c iPhones
If they based it on the mini, I would get one.
Nothing on the release date? :(
Best estimate is April 2025.
If they make the screen bigger, I really hope they keep the smaller body size.
should i keep my iphone se (2022) which i recent bought last year? or buy se4 on release?
Make one more Iphone SE4 video I dear you
It will start at $500-550. Unfortunately, way more in Europe. Probably €700. The primary camera will be the iPhone 11's 12MP sensor - definitely not the 48MP from the iPhone 15.
This. It will compete against the Pixel 9.
I hope it has a bigger battery
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I will devote my life to prevent that
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Na bro that’s not gonna happen 🙅
That’s cap
I’ve bought previous SE’s because they were smaller, I don’t want a bigger screen if I did I’d buy one of the other models =_=
Bro this is just a naive wish list of all the best features we'd want in a $400 iPhone. Apple will never implement this big of an overhaul, especially not with the SE.
I really want apple to drop the se4, cus when then do Samsung will have to lock tf in with their A line phones. Cus, despite other manufacturers doing something Samsung won't, it seems they only respond when apple does something.
This reminds me of the iPhone XR but smaller
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Does this mean the overall size of the phone will be bigger than the SE3? I actually don’t like phones getting bigger
if it has body of 13 mini i will go for it
An ActionButton is unrealistic, because the volume buttons are real buttons to press, while the cut out is for the old-but-gold mute switch.
I honestly hope there is no action button, I prefer the mute switch personally.
@@stardustbunny4570I do as well, so much better than Samsung where you have to switch the phone on and toggle a setting!
It will have no chance agains the Pixel from the A series , by that time it will compete with the Pixel 8A.
The only point of the SE was it was small, usable with one hand. Rename it. Don't lure thoughtless shoppers like me.
I have the vibe of MKBHD whose name was mentioned at the beginning of the iPhone 15 unveiling event😂. It was really cool, and thanks a lot😍
nobody wants a bigger screen size in a se lol, that's the reason people like me even opt for a se
Anybody agree that the iPhone 5S design of the original SE remains legendary?
RIP fans of small phones.
An iPhone 14 chasis which will be used for the SE will be the size of an iPhone 14, meaning the SE will also be 14 sized
Gonna be upgrading to the next se after this 12 dies. It still works well
Love your explanation 🎉
If it has apple intelligence I’ll definitely get it
This have been rumored for so long….i wanted it for my parents (my mother in specific, she had my old 7), ended up buying the 15, it would last for a ton of years.
If it’s more than a 6 months of waiting, I don’t think it’s worth it to be waiting for something that it’s not confirmed it will be realeased soon.
I have no problem with phones that have less features like the se3….i don’t need more than 12 megapixels. I hardly take pictures. There are others like me out there. So, Apple please continue to offer low end phones at a great price and I will continue to be a customer 😊
Screen, battery, cores, camera. That's where the cuts will most likely be as Apple forbid we get anything we truly want in a reasonably priced phone for once. One has to remember that this phone is actually designed for the corporate market and not the individual buyer.
will it be able to use the new ios 18 when it comes out?
The only time I see someone with an iPhone SE it is usually just a work phone. Ie camera and other QOL features are not necessary imo
i'm a SE user since first gen, yeah and i hope it's not cost above 500
I hope they put the A17 in it for better gaming on the go. 😮
Bugger that they have removed the fingerprint sensor. I love that on the old SE phone I have currently. Not worried about all bells n whistles, just want the old phone chips upgraded. The small size is great as it fits my back pocket. Not concerned about camera being upto latest, as I only take a few pics anyway.
Watch this phone come out with a 90hrz display.. that would be funny
Bloody hell, imagine?? That’d be great!
And I would be more infuriated about that if iPhone 16 stays on 60
I guess I'll get iPhone SE5 when they include 48mp hires cam, dynamic island, usb type c, a18 3nm chipset and satellite connection with ios 19 or 20 in 2025 or 2026 🤷
They shoud bring back the se 2016 style back with better battery and camera
Wonder if it will be worth upgrading from an Xs
Yes, it will be worth upgrading from an XS, because by the time SE 4 releases XS won’t support the latest iOS
I want the se if they’ll give us some awesome vibrant colors again even tho I love the pro max line I hate their dull “mature” colors
I'll just get the Nothing Phone (3)
The ultimate iPhone for many people would be An SE with the 15 or 15 pro displays literally
I think the new iPhone SE will looks like the iPhone12 mini with 5.4” screen and not with 6.1”
I kinda miss the home buttons nowadays.
For me the perfect iPhone SE 4 will be:
5.8 inches screen
Dynamic island
At least 90hz
At least A16 chip
Type c
Can you people please stop posting videos about SE 4 and waiting until Apple releases it. We've watched enough already.
Going from LCD to oled is good for many but for pwm sensitive we are pretty much f****d now. We will have to hold on to the SE3 until a new screen tech fixes the pwm issues. I’m sure the OLED will be a cheap one w terrible hz/amplitude.
Nerd
So should I switch from the 11 to the se4 or should I just keep the 11
Don't buy the SE save for iPhone 16
11 is a great iPhone...great colors, too.
It’s mini ??
Theres always refurbished flagships of old that wipe current offerings in powe and featured
I don't really want a phone that looks like Apple's current line-up. I liked the old design with the home button.
Not only you can find the Pixel 7A for less than 400$, Pixel 8A is coming out as well...
1:19 A cut out seems for you to confirm an action button? WHY!?😂
It makes absolutely no sense, that the volume buttons have no cut out, but the action button has.🤪
"next mid range king"
*doubt