As someone who actually plays with a therapist, it’s honestly a lot more of them trying to fully understand the motivation of every single NPC rather than the PCs themselves.
For anyone that is interested, there are group counseling sessions using DnD as the medium. So the therapist would be the DM, they run through the session and do some processing after the DnD session. I just happened to be interested in it as an I am a new Therapist.
@@corygouldman2314 that's really cool! I'm myself looking into how I could potentially incorporate dnd in a therapeutic setting. Did you receive specific training anywhere or did you create a session with a specific theme for these kids?
We once had a group of five IRL psychologists (me, the GM included). They managed to convince the BBG to give up. In terms of analayzing each other through the mechanics... I don't do it most of the time, I guess they did not either.
Yo, can I join your group? My group just makes bad decisions often that ends up with one of our party members being dead and we always have to go back to Deaths realm just to get them back. We do it so much. We have a punchcard now.
@@dokikicingene1517 Having a punchard to the afterworld looks like a fun idea! :D Our group got dissolved as three players got married and they have "other" responsibilities. Kind of sad story..
"Dungeons and Dragons it's a safe imaginary world where you're able to flex your creative imagination free of judgment yeah we're all here to support and uplift each other" Meanwhile in real games ... DM: "Now Joe ... don't rush into the dragon's lair and get the whole party killed again" Joe: "That was 10 years ago! Are you ever going to let me live that down??" Player's in unison: "NOOOOOOOOO!"
Haha! I genuinely thought about making a psychiatrist/therapist styled cleric at one point in time. Then I realised how much everyone hated it and how poorly it worked in most D&D games and so quickly dropped the idea. But well done guys! Great adaptation of this lessor concieved notion!
In critical role, Caduceus Clay is totally a cleric therapist. But like, someone who's actually listening to your issues, who cares and sparsely offers advice when needed. The douchebag shown in this video is a funny character, but would be a terrible therapist.
As long as you separate it from the table and do it to the NPCs, that's fine. Maybe just go over how your character psychoanalyze the PCs as a passing note, rather than in excruciating detail
Holy shit that is SUCH A TRUE STATEMENT. My first campaign as a DM was a 10 person team, homebrew, where their backstories were woven into the story lines. Lemmie tell ya, I got to know so much more about my friends because of what they wanted for their characters. A lot of fictional wish fulfillment and trauma processing lolol
There are many different types of game groups. "No judgement" sounds great in theory, but can be odd in practice. When characters who are supposed to be good have players who are extremely pragmatic, then being a bit judgmental might not be out of place. "But... saturation bombing would kill the civilians along with the hostiles." "Why are you judging me, I thought this was a safe space." Then again, judging the character's actions is different from judging the player. Some of the nicest people I know play some of the most violent characters. Now, if a bunch of characters in a row have immense collateral damage, after a while, the rest of the table will wonder why that's such a consistent theme.
Yeah I 100% agree mortal questions in game seem to leak in to real life And it’s up to the table if they want to talk about destruction behavior to the fantasy world in or out of game
Judging a character's actions assumes you know the character that person is playing. A lawful good character may be a Changeling who wants all humans dead, for all you know! I played a game where the GM had allowed us to think the character was a ranger because he knew the guy was a changeling thief, with a Chaotic alignment, he basically didn't give a shit about anyone but Changelings. I play a Moon Druid and am playing him very bestial, very anti-civilisation. My backstory includes watching local forests being torn down to make a town, killing all the local wildlife, so I am not very human or Civ-friendly. My GM has my backstory and told me recently that I was playing my character against type because he assumed I was going to be a fluffy Druid who makes calming teas for everyone - he clearly hadn't read my backstory at all, even though he was the person who asked for it. Also played with a Wizard who turned out to be working with the bad guys. Some of his decisions seemed really weird but when we finally worked it out, it totally made sense.
I think a therapist at the table could make really interesting characters and develop or even a therapist player character could be fun as long as keep those assumptions and psychoanalysis in game 😆
I just went to go see Return of the King (extended edition) last night in theaters, and they showed a few celebs playing DnD... a bit odd I see this the following morning...
Nah. Viva La Dirt League did one too, only they didn't have "sponsored content" written right up front. Wizards of the Coast are continuing their push to get back more people after they lost the serious fans and homebrewers after the OGL disaster and the failure of the Chris Pine movie to go gangbusters after all the marketing.
Reminds me of the psychiatrist in my dads old friend group who would both analyze everyone and make occasional quips, but then was also constantly self medicating, to the point of laying down on the middle of the floor after getting too fucked up from her pill cocktails DURING fancy dinner parties. I mean I loved the floor show, it's not often you see something quite that funny.
I actually put descriptions of all of my past characters into ChatGPT and then had it make guesses about me based on those characters. The results were interesting. Nothing too controversial or surprising though.
Oh no… I’m realizing all my characters ultimately have the simple background of “left her basic life to go adventure.” That’s clearly a reflection of my repressed anger at being the only one of my siblings not to leave out small hometown for bigger things! 😳😂😜
I've done it and it was fun. My Spiritual Weapon was the DSM-V, using the Knowledge Cleric ability/clairvoyance spells was consulting with colleagues, and when I landed a particularly nasty blow, I asked "How does THAT make you feel?"
you definitely need a better therapist. although it is good to take responsibility only for your actions, not others. and don't be afraid to tell the therapist that it isn't working. if they are a good therapist, they will understand and help you find what you need. IF they are a good therapist...
This is great! I've played D&D for many years and it inspired my guided meditatio experience that plays like a solo D&D game. It helps you expand your imagination and transform your inner story. We are starting to work with several therapist and schools. It's been making some amazing transformations in peoples lives.💚🙏✨🙌
Me: I'm going to play a Paladin who can smite undead as well as tank and heal when needed. Therapist: So you're filling multiple roles, trying to do everything, in order to please everyone, for them to like you.
My first and current D&D game is being DM’d by a therapist…. My play through game while tackling traumatic experiences…. We also lean social skills as well as how to get over our fears…. I have daddy issues…. There’s also a goblin bard in my party…. I’m absolutely horrified that this video predicted every single aspect about my game….
Why does it seem most appropriate that the therapist would play a bard? I called it at first and was briefly disappointed when he picked ranger. I was slightly more disappointed when he misunderstood rangers as a ranged only class, but that bait and switch was great.
I'm a half-Elf ranger...due to my love of the outdoors and admiration of Aragorn from LOTR, not because I prefer isolation away from people out of a desire to avoid undue emotional distress or a crippling fear of never finding a place to belong.
Our choice of character and background can really say a lot about who we are and who we'd rather be. Think about it, you can be whatever you want, you don't have to be yourself. Maybe you can connect with parts of you you didn't even know existed.
I have a family member who acts like this, and she’s not a licensed therapist or psychiatrist. She took a psychology class once, so she feels she knows the world now. Tries to point out everyone’s flaws, while ignoring her own.
Honestly if you don't take it too seriously a therapist could actually help the backstory of characters making the depth of said characters incredibly enjoyable and imersive.😂🤔
See, I don't think the therapist is totally off base. Like yeah, obviously it's not that severe but I've always said you can tell a lot about somebody by the characters they play. Even when it's "I played a fighter last time and wanted to mix things up" how and what they pick says a lot about them. Though, granted it's often things like "I like trickster characters" or "I want to feel powerful in my life". Plus I've seen several nascent LGBTQIA+ people use dnd to explore aspects of their identities they weren't quite ready to irl
Honestly this is kinda genius and could really help the players, but not really them more their characters, if you really wanna try out a new class then he could give you a whole backstory idea and a concept of how to play, especially good if you like min maxing and don't enjoy the process of backstory as much
A psychiatrist is a medical doctor who prescribes medications for psychiatric disorders such as depression, anxiety, OCD, PTSD, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, eating disorder, etc. There are regular adult psychiatrists, child and adolescent psychiatrists, consult and liaison psychiatrists (what Dr. House was initially meant to be based on), geriatric psychiatrists, addictions psychiatrists, and now interventional psychiatrists that provide care such as ketamine, ECT, rTMS, etc. It requires at least 4 years of residency after 4 years of medical school after at least 4 years of undergraduate and additional fellowship for subspecialty. The average salary is around 300k a year. A therapist can get licensed after 6 months of training...
2:15 As a DM, this is a point where you should pauze the game, and speak with new player privately about some ground rules, if he wants to be there with you. It would be fine if he made character who is therapist and focuses on mental health of his fellow party members and NPCs (if this is something you want to have in your game). It is not ok, to judge their in game choices and make assumptions about them as players or try to pry into their private lives.
As someone who actually plays with a therapist, it’s honestly a lot more of them trying to fully understand the motivation of every single NPC rather than the PCs themselves.
lmao sounds accurate
Exactly
the dm that just created the npc: *sweats nervously*
IIII AM LITERALLY THAT GUY
They didn't meet any NPCs yet.
For anyone that is interested, there are group counseling sessions using DnD as the medium. So the therapist would be the DM, they run through the session and do some processing after the DnD session. I just happened to be interested in it as an I am a new Therapist.
That's an interesting concept. I mean, it's nice to think that you could go to therapy without it being a COMPLETE waste of time.
Do they do any of this online, or just in person?
Where do you find something like this?
I'm a counselor and have done this with a group of 4-6 teenagers in person. It has its own unique hurdles, to be sure, but can be really beneficial.
@@corygouldman2314 that's really cool! I'm myself looking into how I could potentially incorporate dnd in a therapeutic setting. Did you receive specific training anywhere or did you create a session with a specific theme for these kids?
Gor LifeRender Tok says thank you for including him in the sketch, and he’s still looking for coin and companionship if anyone’s interested
Davis needs shoulder to cry on.
Glad to see Noah getting work outside of Smosh. So happy for him.
He's done a few Warp Zone videos over the years.
We once had a group of five IRL psychologists (me, the GM included). They managed to convince the BBG to give up. In terms of analayzing each other through the mechanics... I don't do it most of the time, I guess they did not either.
Yo, can I join your group? My group just makes bad decisions often that ends up with one of our party members being dead and we always have to go back to Deaths realm just to get them back. We do it so much. We have a punchcard now.
@@dokikicingene1517 Having a punchard to the afterworld looks like a fun idea! :D Our group got dissolved as three players got married and they have "other" responsibilities. Kind of sad story..
"Dungeons and Dragons it's a safe imaginary world where you're able to flex your creative imagination free of judgment yeah we're all here to support and uplift each other"
Meanwhile in real games ...
DM: "Now Joe ... don't rush into the dragon's lair and get the whole party killed again"
Joe: "That was 10 years ago! Are you ever going to let me live that down??"
Player's in unison: "NOOOOOOOOO!"
My man Joe saw an opportunity to Leeroy Jenkins and took it
This is the best example of "Bro, it's not that deep." I've ever seen 🤣
Haha! I genuinely thought about making a psychiatrist/therapist styled cleric at one point in time. Then I realised how much everyone hated it and how poorly it worked in most D&D games and so quickly dropped the idea.
But well done guys! Great adaptation of this lessor concieved notion!
I think that would be funny, like every time you heal someone in battle you ask them questions about their childhood😂
In critical role, Caduceus Clay is totally a cleric therapist. But like, someone who's actually listening to your issues, who cares and sparsely offers advice when needed. The douchebag shown in this video is a funny character, but would be a terrible therapist.
As long as you separate it from the table and do it to the NPCs, that's fine. Maybe just go over how your character psychoanalyze the PCs as a passing note, rather than in excruciating detail
@@Djorgal "Hm, but how does that make you feel?" - this guy, obviously not paying attention to what you just said about him.
@@solvseus “ We’ll I guess it all goes back to my mother” 😂
This looked like a normal dnd adventure. Only usually the DM is the therapist
thats what iwas expecting
As a therapist that is a forever DM, I can confirm this fact.
Sometimes deliberately. There's actually a form of therapy that uses D&D (or other RPGs) to help with various issues.
The kinagarden adult
Holy shit that is SUCH A TRUE STATEMENT.
My first campaign as a DM was a 10 person team, homebrew, where their backstories were woven into the story lines.
Lemmie tell ya, I got to know so much more about my friends because of what they wanted for their characters. A lot of fictional wish fulfillment and trauma processing lolol
Daddy can’t disapprove if he wasn’t around 😂
A recipe for disaster...
This therapist needs a therapist 😂
Many therapists do.
Thought it was the norm/mandated for therapists to have one
Indeed a lot of therapists go to other therapists. Also helps to process the stories of their patients😂
Thats like a doctor needs a doctor lol
The best therapists have therapists
This actually happened to me, I cried for two days after the free therapy session.
That therapist maybe had poor social skills then. I’m sorry that happened.
A phycologist(psychologist) as a Dungeon Master would be legit damaging.😅
So today we will be exploring your deepest traumas and rolling dice, now, who wants to get us started?.
Or legit amazing because therapeutic gaming is a really thing. Too bad insurance probably won't cover it
psychologist
@@timothycrowell381 😊Thanks. I'll pass it on to Google spell check.
half of my psychologist friends prefer to be the dm
There are many different types of game groups. "No judgement" sounds great in theory, but can be odd in practice. When characters who are supposed to be good have players who are extremely pragmatic, then being a bit judgmental might not be out of place.
"But... saturation bombing would kill the civilians along with the hostiles."
"Why are you judging me, I thought this was a safe space."
Then again, judging the character's actions is different from judging the player. Some of the nicest people I know play some of the most violent characters. Now, if a bunch of characters in a row have immense collateral damage, after a while, the rest of the table will wonder why that's such a consistent theme.
Yeah I 100% agree mortal questions in game seem to leak in to real life
And it’s up to the table if they want to talk about destruction behavior to the fantasy world in or out of game
Judging a character's actions assumes you know the character that person is playing. A lawful good character may be a Changeling who wants all humans dead, for all you know! I played a game where the GM had allowed us to think the character was a ranger because he knew the guy was a changeling thief, with a Chaotic alignment, he basically didn't give a shit about anyone but Changelings.
I play a Moon Druid and am playing him very bestial, very anti-civilisation. My backstory includes watching local forests being torn down to make a town, killing all the local wildlife, so I am not very human or Civ-friendly. My GM has my backstory and told me recently that I was playing my character against type because he assumed I was going to be a fluffy Druid who makes calming teas for everyone - he clearly hadn't read my backstory at all, even though he was the person who asked for it.
Also played with a Wizard who turned out to be working with the bad guys. Some of his decisions seemed really weird but when we finally worked it out, it totally made sense.
I think a therapist at the table could make really interesting characters and develop or even a therapist player character could be fun as long as keep those assumptions and psychoanalysis in game 😆
TFS Mr. Perfect Cell: "Oh please, there isn't a shrink qualified enough to deal with their hot mess!"
TFS Alucard: "BUT I AM!"
Those miniatures are awesome. I want to play in this game.
"This fucking guy" just wonderfuly delivered.
I love you guys. You’re a pretty big channel but all the videos still feel personal, like you’re talking to us all individually at once
I just went to go see Return of the King (extended edition) last night in theaters, and they showed a few celebs playing DnD... a bit odd I see this the following morning...
Nah. Viva La Dirt League did one too, only they didn't have "sponsored content" written right up front. Wizards of the Coast are continuing their push to get back more people after they lost the serious fans and homebrewers after the OGL disaster and the failure of the Chris Pine movie to go gangbusters after all the marketing.
I can't get past how that guy is literally named Doctor Phil.
Reminds me of the psychiatrist in my dads old friend group who would both analyze everyone and make occasional quips, but then was also constantly self medicating, to the point of laying down on the middle of the floor after getting too fucked up from her pill cocktails DURING fancy dinner parties.
I mean I loved the floor show, it's not often you see something quite that funny.
"this f*cking guy" I felt that
As soon as the therapist started talking, I knew this was going to be cringe. Lol
Nothing bad's ever come of someone bringing their brother to a dnd game.
My therapy office actually had a dnd group for patients were the adventures and heros were based on stuff we wanted to work on irl. It was awesome
Love you guys! Keep the content coming!!
This sketch feels like "If Frasier Crane played D&D
Yesss I’ve been waiting for another instalment of the dungeons and dragons series
I love when Noah shows up.
I actually put descriptions of all of my past characters into ChatGPT and then had it make guesses about me based on those characters. The results were interesting. Nothing too controversial or surprising though.
Oh no… I’m realizing all my characters ultimately have the simple background of “left her basic life to go adventure.” That’s clearly a reflection of my repressed anger at being the only one of my siblings not to leave out small hometown for bigger things! 😳😂😜
"this F**king guy..."
yep... figured some stuff was about to go down lol...
I was waiting for the infamous "roll for the initiative" and let's say, I wasn't disappointed! :P
As someone that's thinking of starting a career as a therapist and have conciously used DnD as a therapy method this video got extra special XD
now i'm curious, how a therapist playing a therapist character would turn out
I've done it and it was fun. My Spiritual Weapon was the DSM-V, using the Knowledge Cleric ability/clairvoyance spells was consulting with colleagues, and when I landed a particularly nasty blow, I asked "How does THAT make you feel?"
he's definitely more of a psychologist than a therapist lol
I havent seen the dnd movie but i love this skit warp zone
Scoot’s really changed his ways
Finally a Scoots reference! He's an underrated character
That therapist is the definition of “reading too much into things”😅
Thank God this guy isn't in my campaign. My character is actually an edgy self insert, id leave every session sobbing
Loving the full on Frasier energy of this xD
I Needed more of this series
I've had 4 therapists. Not one of them acted like this. What the fuck? My ones just blamed me...
Find a better therapist. The best ones blame everything on your parents. Unless you're a narcissist, then it's DEFINITELY your parents fault.
- hmhh ...continue... 🖊️
you definitely need a better therapist. although it is good to take responsibility only for your actions, not others. and don't be afraid to tell the therapist that it isn't working. if they are a good therapist, they will understand and help you find what you need. IF they are a good therapist...
Intelligent writers
😊
@@TheWarpZone I expected you to say you went to Harvard.
You must not have, otherwise you would have said so.
As a therapist that plays D&D... I just spent my day with a full caseload, I do this for fun and I'm off the clock!!
Random. But the therapist would’ve made an excellent young Han Solo
This is great! I've played D&D for many years and it inspired my guided meditatio experience that plays like a solo D&D game. It helps you expand your imagination and transform your inner story. We are starting to work with several therapist and schools. It's been making some amazing transformations in peoples lives.💚🙏✨🙌
Player: "My name is Ajax, and I am a human artificer."
Therapist: "I see. So you have autism."
Please make more of these
4:57 if only it were that simple
I love that theres just a mecha shark on the table with no explanation
This is the greatest series y’all have
Wait, is Gortok a common character name? I made a Minotaur Paladin named Gortok YEARS ago.
Me: I'm going to play a Paladin who can smite undead as well as tank and heal when needed.
Therapist: So you're filling multiple roles, trying to do everything, in order to please everyone, for them to like you.
How to get your friends to see a therapist... part 1😂
"This fucking guy" LOL
"This fucking guy."
My first and current D&D game is being DM’d by a therapist….
My play through game while tackling traumatic experiences….
We also lean social skills as well as how to get over our fears….
I have daddy issues….
There’s also a goblin bard in my party….
I’m absolutely horrified that this video predicted every single aspect about my game….
Hmm.. I'm getting some backstory ideas, that therapist may be a genius.
Why does it seem most appropriate that the therapist would play a bard? I called it at first and was briefly disappointed when he picked ranger. I was slightly more disappointed when he misunderstood rangers as a ranged only class, but that bait and switch was great.
Do a dick Richards video with daredevil and Superman
Exceptional acting, loved the little ear touch
I'm a half-Elf ranger...due to my love of the outdoors and admiration of Aragorn from LOTR, not because I prefer isolation away from people out of a desire to avoid undue emotional distress or a crippling fear of never finding a place to belong.
I like that they start the game and immediately roll for initiative. xD
I'd be curious his reaction to my character "I literally rolled dice to decide my race class and background."
4:09 Remember kids, even therapists need therapy for themselves.
“Free of Judgement” Ha!!!
Our choice of character and background can really say a lot about who we are and who we'd rather be. Think about it, you can be whatever you want, you don't have to be yourself.
Maybe you can connect with parts of you you didn't even know existed.
Hmm, now I'm curious how my therapist would analyse my current character, a Kobold Bard named Beavis. 🤔
I have a family member who acts like this, and she’s not a licensed therapist or psychiatrist. She took a psychology class once, so she feels she knows the world now. Tries to point out everyone’s flaws, while ignoring her own.
I heard on NPR that they actually have a therapist who uses D&D in their secessions.
Is Noah just part of warp zone now? If so, thats awesome!
Honestly if you don't take it too seriously a therapist could actually help the backstory of characters making the depth of said characters incredibly enjoyable and imersive.😂🤔
Hello assassin sneaking up behind the counselor
“Daddy couldn’t disapprove if he wasn’t there.” Truer words were never spoken.
I like the way y'all write man.
Thx. We've been doing it for a while
Goblin bard sounds fun
As someone who plays as a goblin bard, I feel very seen right now
Cool dnd Video, I really appriciate your work!!
See, I don't think the therapist is totally off base. Like yeah, obviously it's not that severe but I've always said you can tell a lot about somebody by the characters they play. Even when it's "I played a fighter last time and wanted to mix things up" how and what they pick says a lot about them. Though, granted it's often things like "I like trickster characters" or "I want to feel powerful in my life".
Plus I've seen several nascent LGBTQIA+ people use dnd to explore aspects of their identities they weren't quite ready to irl
It took me HOT second the realize this was David XD I've only known him from Scary Game Squad lol
10/10 again!
Honestly this is kinda genius and could really help the players, but not really them more their characters, if you really wanna try out a new class then he could give you a whole backstory idea and a concept of how to play, especially good if you like min maxing and don't enjoy the process of backstory as much
He is the most terrifying person to play with or against
The only time I've played D&D was at Drama Therapy.
Brilliant video warp zone your channel is freaking awesome and I mean that personally you are a fantastic TH-camr 👍👍👍👍👍
Wow, you guys are paying bots now? So sad.
I’d love to have someone with that expertise of note taking at my table
We have a psychiatrist in our party. He playes an elf who’s high on shrooms 70% of the time
I feel like the therapist would cause the need for even more therapy
Dude's a psychiatrist, not a therapist. He should know to stay in his fucking lane, but the guy's got an ego enough to spill over.
5:16 that was F#
a surprise to be sure but a welcome one
A psycho-analyst having an unreasonably disapproving father is mad accurate.
A psychiatrist is a medical doctor who prescribes medications for psychiatric disorders such as depression, anxiety, OCD, PTSD, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, eating disorder, etc. There are regular adult psychiatrists, child and adolescent psychiatrists, consult and liaison psychiatrists (what Dr. House was initially meant to be based on), geriatric psychiatrists, addictions psychiatrists, and now interventional psychiatrists that provide care such as ketamine, ECT, rTMS, etc. It requires at least 4 years of residency after 4 years of medical school after at least 4 years of undergraduate and additional fellowship for subspecialty. The average salary is around 300k a year.
A therapist can get licensed after 6 months of training...
The origin of Scoots is weird
Phil reminds me of a leather book
2:15 As a DM, this is a point where you should pauze the game, and speak with new player privately about some ground rules, if he wants to be there with you. It would be fine if he made character who is therapist and focuses on mental health of his fellow party members and NPCs (if this is something you want to have in your game). It is not ok, to judge their in game choices and make assumptions about them as players or try to pry into their private lives.
4:35 murder hobo game incoming
Is this the origin of Scoots?