Win Server by default typically runs the CPUs less hard / more efficiently for multicore processes, thereby causing the single thread apps to open slower. That can be changed in the power settings.
But the Kernel is same and OS interaction with bare metal is not paramount to server longevity it's the type of hardware you install that matters the most (for example ECC Ram, Server chip, Drives with parity error correction mechanism and proper RAID configs, etc). Windows Server is a sham.
1:36 Notice how Windows Server has Memory compression off - it says 0MB is compressed, unlike regular Windows 10 compressing some of the memory as needed.
Not really. Windows Server is just a Windows that can be used to route, set up Active Directory, create domains etc etc, so tbh comparing it to Windows 10 does not explain what is it
@@alphateezeey4117 yes but ur not really supposed to, nor should you. it has stuff more geared towards servers and it is a bit of a security risk to have all the stuff it has/
@@alphateezeey4117 all windows drivers are universal, BUT windows server usually only works with the preinstalled drivers. also, with win server, you don't have any apps you have preinstalled with normal versions of windows (e.g. mail, photos, paint, camera, calculator, etc.)
Doing a speed test with two computers at the same time isn’t a proper test, one computer is going to take priority over the other on the router. Giving both heat sinks fresh paste would make this more of a fair test too.
He’s testing these on the exact same laptop, it’s not two laptops it’s the same one, just running both os’s to make it a fair test, it’s edited to put the laptops side by side, that’s why he has two left hands lol
@@DeadUnderflow uh no?? He literally had two left hands in the video, it's an edited video, there's an incredibly obvious black cut line through the video
I love that laptop. I think it has always been one of the best on the market. In fact, after watching this video I am going to install Windows 11 just to see if it still works.
2:05 it may also mean different thermal compounds under cpu, or paste applied on each ThinkPad with months in between, or different stages of dust accumulation, or the ThinkPad that is hotter(right) is to close to the ThinkPad on the left making it more difficult to evacuate heat efficiently, and the 91C limit on both could indicate a max thermal limit setting in bios before cpu throttling.
It's the same laptop. He just shot the two scenes separately and put them next to each other while editing. You can see at some points like 5:27 the difference in lighting when the color balances is offset. At the beginning I thought they were two laptops too, though.
ONE HUGE PROBLEM: If you didn't configure Server to prioritize "programs" over "background service" these tests are 100% pointless. The configuration is in System Properties > Advanced tab > Performance Options > Advance tab.
@@minkjay3218 We don't live in 2010 anymore Linux driver support is nearly as good as driver support on Windows and sometimes even better because it's used in pretty much any Server.
A few things to consider: 1. These laptops come with a ton of drivers that have to be installed manually on 2019 and it is possible you have some divergence there. 2. Windows 10 comes with memory compression and software prefetch which might not be enabled on 2019 by default 3. The battery/performance profile settings seems different between the two, hence performance it is better to be benchmarked on desktops where these things might be set the same by default. 4. Windows 10 disk space "rot" over time is much more serious than the one on 2019 which makes the latter alot better with disk space management...
there's a reason why it has "server" attached to its name. It is for high capacity storage, more RAM, 24/7 run time and better reliability compared to Win10. just wanted clear few things, love your content ✌ #Win7User
6:33 timing was a bit off, you didn't press enter at the same time in this clip so we don't actually know which loaded first, but I'm assuming its still windows
@@nolan3312 I admit Macs are not the best when it comes to gaming but you can play Roblox minecraft fortnite and other minor steam games in 60 to 200 FPS if you got a m1 MacBook Pro or air
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I can explain opening applications. By default on windows server, the system will allocate more resources to background services then user applications. If you open system properties advanced you can actually toggle off the setting. Hope this helps!
@@DeadUnderflow I'm looking at the background, there's literally a direct straight line showing where he cut it for the 2nd piece of footage, also how would he have two left hands??
I think it might be fairer to compare Windows 10 version v1809 instead of the latest version versus Windows Server 2019, since server 2019 is based on 1809. Just saying.
solely based on my observations, I think it's because SuperFetch is disabled or missing on Windows Server, which leads to less RAM usage and less cached apps in the background so in return, longer app launches.
People usually get Windows Server for the fact that Server edition has lesser application installed and one has lower resource usage. Windows server was used for running ASP.NET application and Hyper V
It would have been better to compare it between Windows 10 and Windows 10 LTSC instead of Windows Server. If you ran the same tests on a server I'm sure Windows server would have demolished Windows 10. What you tried is like trying to fire real bullets with a nerf gun. It was still pretty interesting to watch. It'll be very interesting to see what happens if you try Windows 10 vs LTSC. LTSC is exactly like 10 but without and bloatware, cortana, microsoft store, windows update etc etc. I personally used both of them and Windows 10 LTSC was noticeably faster. Love your content btw uwu.
these tests are too specific to say the test for the battery of one laptop the battery may be more degraded than the other for temperatures the one laptop may be more dusty than the other the test for the speed of opening applications may the disks whether they are the same or not more or less degraded because as we know HDDs and SSDs degrade many more
1:15 an explanation for this is because Windows 10 Server is a stripped down version of Windows 10. Windows 10 comes packaged with bloat and built in software where server doesn't even have edge by default.
The bootup test was like 2 seconds slower for server edition but the bios took longer like 10 seconds longer to load. That is not influenced by the server edition. Feels a little rigged.
Are you know why people or company use servers? Not for usualy performance with word or excel... they use it for multitasking, many remote people connecting with rdp to server and working with some software as finance accounting or some else. Server system installing for stability, not for performance. P.S. what you will use for web server? Linux server, but no, maybe you will install it on Windows 10, as you dont know what Linux server are ;)
It's like saying that soy meat is better than beef. These are different things. But human beings like comparisons and you are to be congratulated for solving this doubt.
Fun fact: The reason why windows server battery life is better than normal windows 10 is due to the fact that server need longer to shutdown on ups if the main power is not stable or working.
you cant compare this versions because windows server is not use for desktop pc. you can run a lot of services that you cant run in normal windows versions
additionally, the reason for the battery life being so much better is because that's something server prioritises. But not for laptops. Server optimises for UPSs and Backup Generators to ensure as much uptime as possible, even if the power has gone out.
Never paid for windows and never will pay. When I need to activate windows I just search “how to activate windows 10 for free” on TH-cam and click the first tutorial. Works every time.
For a proper test you need the same build versions, which in this case should be 1809. Newer versions of Windows 10 have some optimizations of the code that server does not have. Also you really should shoot this on the same laptop. Even similarly spec'ed memory sticks, but slightly different, a different SSD or even dried out thermal paste on the CPU can affect these scores.
He’s testing these on the exact same laptop, it’s not two laptops it’s the same one, just running both os’s to make it a fair test, it’s edited to put the laptops side by side, that’s why he has two left hands lol
2:10 that is because one may have more dust. this isnt a good test. 3:30 this is because you are using different servers per speed test, and you aren't using ethernet. also, speedtest has too many ads and can easily glitch some machines. 4:45 computer may be thermal throttling due to dust 5:15 because servers are not supposed to open apps fast, it needs to keep them open for longer though. also it looks like that one is charging while the other one isn't. charged laptops usually throttle, making the experience slower. 6:12 that is from internet speed. 7:01 because server admins usually need faster file transfer speeds 7:51 because windows server isnt for home use
2:23 i can guess the fan curves are different , also you need to see if the server is on turbo or not, the Windows home does try to save power , that results in less heat. In the case of Windows server, power usage is not a problem
Before watching the video. At 0:20 (why choose microsoft server), well because then i'm absolutely certain there will be no BS in the OS. I'm using Microsoft (windows) Server 2022 - Datacenter edition and i'll never go back to consumer versions again. Default account is administrator, which I was already using in pro so that's perfect! (ps: i know what i'm doing). About loading times, windows server and pro is comparable. Boot times are the same. Also, when conducting a speed test. You don't do it at the same time, for obvious reasons.
Main difference is Windows Server supports more powerful hardware. Windows 10 Pro has a max limit of 2 TB of RAM, Windows Server allows for 24 TB. A desktop user is unlikely even to consider such a large amount of RAM, but servers can make good use of their greater RAM capacity Windows 10 has a limit on processors as well. The Windows 10 Home edition only supports one physical cpu, while Windows 10 Pro supports two. Server 2016 support upto 64 sockets.Similarly, a 32-bit copy of Windows 10 only supports 32 cores, and the 64-bit version support 256 cores, but Windows Server has no limit for cores.
One thing worth mentioning. Software license on windows server tends to be way more expensive than on windows 10 counterpart. From 3x or so to 10x or higher. Sometimes windows server will need a license that is called “site license” compared to “personal/home license”. And tbh, windows have come a long way that even personal use of windows 10 is good and stable enough that windows server’s extra stability and whatnot is not that necessary for most home/professional users, unless you legit run server grade software/hardware (e.g. ecc memory)
Windows server is designed to run Server Functions - Communications, Web Hosting, Domain Hosting Services, Production Services, Hosting CRM. There are also additonal functions that can be added such as image hosting services, domain and active directory hosting. I do know Programmers that use Server for Web Hosting and Functionality testing. Otherwise, there is not much reason to use Windows Server.
servers main purpose is to run the services background, unless like normal windows focus on foreground application... that's why a server can be accessed from any no. of systems
Well after win7 I switched to linux and I haven't even test any other win os so I cannot tell. However back in the day we use to install windows server 2008 instead of windows 7. The deference was stability. After a tone of tweaking the server edition was as fast or faster and more stable than win7. The downside was some freaking drivers issues.. I can only guess that if you tweak win server 2019 the same way it could perform the same or even better...
My Windows 10 Pro uses 1.4GB RAM and I'm not joking, I can even prove. Anyways, I just used something called "Windows 10 Tweaker" that has removed all the bloat from it, before that I also used "Windows 10 Debloater" the most popular one. My windows looks clean and fast.
Servers have as CPU priority background programs second from the video it is noticable that the server os is not activated wich might slow or kill some kernel accelerators
I cannot think of a scenario where someone would install windows server to just daily drive that machine, other than fun and curiosity, unless you actually use that machine as a server. It's like getting a big heavy truck for your everyday movement. It's just meant for different use.
haha, big sur, "free" but fu** me, that's a bloody expensive version of windows. lol. Anyway, Windows Server comes with server software. It can support up to 24 TB of RAM whereas W10 is 2 TB if not mistaken. Windows server also supports more sockets (processors) than W10 by a lot. W10 allows 2 at most, if not mistaken. W-Server doesn't come with all that bloatware shit in W10 out of the box, like Edge, Microsoft Store, etc. Therefore, in terms of a server perspective, Windows Server wins on the basis of the extra features. W10 is for the user experience whereas the Windows server is for the server admins to bitch about among ourselves. haha.
Windows server is tuned to prioritise system files not applications. This is not a secret, its clearly visible in advanced settings and designed that way. Simple homework would of worked that test out !
Difference in temp can explain differences in boot up times. Differences in temp can be explained in just that one thinkpad is dirty or more used, or different thermal paste, also can be just the silicon lottery, but i bet it is ambient difference, like the wind moving from left to right , so , the second is sucking air heated from the first thinkpad, and so on.
6:20 if you go into frame by frame mode, a.k.a pressing the ", ()" key, and you can just barely see that its just 1 frame faster for Windows 10 (not server).
There is a couple of problems with your tests 1- its really improbable that both batteries have been used exactly the same throughout your laptopses lifes, therefore, its expected that one battery lasts longer than the other one, you should have tested with the same battery. 2- you can't test the wi-fi at the same time, wi-fi is a pretty messed up technology, its really hard to predict how its gonna perform, specially at the same time. Also there's the router firmware problem, its highly probable that your router just picked one of the laptops to give more priority for. Besides that, great video
Windows Server doesn't have a power saving mode because its an OS for servers and not for laptops. But every program you run in Windows Server, It have lot or resources like ram or disk, that Windows 10 probably make a software limit to a program like Chrome to make the system interface smoothly than a server.
they started not at the same time, second notebook had longer post time, you can see it by bios, you should cut video in half and sync them to know which loaded faster, and not give 1 score to notebook which just started the bios faster.
3:30 this is because you are using different servers per speed test, and you aren't using ethernet. also, speedtest has too many ads and can easily glitch some machines.
ok some heres some things wrong 1, wifi test you ran them together and well wifi will prioritize some devices over others 2, the boot time will be different on what settings you use 3, 2019 was not the latest at the time of upload 4, app boot time, again depends on settings 5, everything depends on setting with windows server, and im going to guess you never configured it correctly 6, you can get windows server for free 7, virus scanning should have been done with windows defender since server defender is better and more optimized 8, whats the hardware in both devices, ssd? hdd? what cpu difference and ram, even at same ram size you can have big differences 9, I run windows server 22 and I can say that theres a noticeable difference in speed when configured correctly. instant boot, etc 10, what version of chrome are you using since I never can get chrome over 1.5gb even with tons of tabs
Once Windows 10 LTSC 2021 is released, you should compare Windows 10 Pro and LTSC latest versions then, since new LTSC versions are only released every 2-3 years.
@@teodortodorov6974 yeah but pretty sure it would be better to compare it with 10 since most people would still be running 10 and Windows 10's last feature update is also going to be 21H2.
Win Server by default typically runs the CPUs less hard / more efficiently for multicore processes, thereby causing the single thread apps to open slower. That can be changed in the power settings.
But the Kernel is same and OS interaction with bare metal is not paramount to server longevity it's the type of hardware you install that matters the most (for example ECC Ram, Server chip, Drives with parity error correction mechanism and proper RAID configs, etc).
Windows Server is a sham.
1:36 Notice how Windows Server has Memory compression off - it says 0MB is compressed, unlike regular Windows 10 compressing some of the memory as needed.
Yeah because disabling it cause less issues and make the system more reliable
I have windows 10 pro and memory compression off by default
Finally a video which explains what this “windows server” version is.
Not really. Windows Server is just a Windows that can be used to route, set up Active Directory, create domains etc etc, so tbh comparing it to Windows 10 does not explain what is it
It’s Windows for servers
minecraft server hehe
@@GameNobz among us server hehe
@@DOHA104p3 nah i'm doing minecraft serves for a living ;)
You still need to keep in mind that windows 10 is optimized for consumer usage.
And Windows server for server usage
Agreed
Can windows server be used as a personal os?
And the windows 10 drivers can be installed in windows server 2019?
@@alphateezeey4117 yes but ur not really supposed to, nor should you. it has stuff more geared towards servers and it is a bit of a security risk to have all the stuff it has/
@@alphateezeey4117 all windows drivers are universal, BUT windows server usually only works with the preinstalled drivers. also, with win server, you don't have any apps you have preinstalled with normal versions of windows (e.g. mail, photos, paint, camera, calculator, etc.)
Doing a speed test with two computers at the same time isn’t a proper test, one computer is going to take priority over the other on the router. Giving both heat sinks fresh paste would make this more of a fair test too.
@Microsoft Employee nope
He’s testing these on the exact same laptop, it’s not two laptops it’s the same one, just running both os’s to make it a fair test, it’s edited to put the laptops side by side, that’s why he has two left hands lol
@@AbiRose539 the problem is the TH-camr is too lazy to explain this at the start of the video
@@AbiRose539 nope he has 1 left and 1 right
@@DeadUnderflow uh no?? He literally had two left hands in the video, it's an edited video, there's an incredibly obvious black cut line through the video
He back again for the bazillionth time
The million millionth time
I love that laptop. I think it has always been one of the best on the market. In fact, after watching this video I am going to install Windows 11 just to see if it still works.
I did it but I had to use BNH Software to get it and I must say that the laptop worked correctly for me.
Yes, yes, but later I can use that same key for another PC because I'm going to do this for free.
I think if it can be used anyway, investigate that.
it will be my turn, thank you
2:05 it may also mean different thermal compounds under cpu, or paste applied on each ThinkPad with months in between, or different stages of dust accumulation, or the ThinkPad that is hotter(right) is to close to the ThinkPad on the left making it more difficult to evacuate heat efficiently, and the 91C limit on both could indicate a max thermal limit setting in bios before cpu throttling.
It's the same laptop. He just shot the two scenes separately and put them next to each other while editing. You can see at some points like 5:27 the difference in lighting when the color balances is offset. At the beginning I thought they were two laptops too, though.
@@JackMaslovLive yes you're right. I didn't catch that.
0:08 "Every other OS is free" while showing MacOS. Well guess what MacOS isnt free. You either buy the retail version or you buy an Apple product.
So you forgot about hackintosh
@@TechyMage I mean they're technically illegal and you can get Windows for free as well if you don't need customization...
macos is only free updates
@@DeadUnderflow Afaik Windows has free updates aswell right?
@@paulvorderegger1522 never said it didn't. im just explaining how he saw "Free" on the apple website.
ONE HUGE PROBLEM: If you didn't configure Server to prioritize "programs" over "background service" these tests are 100% pointless. The configuration is in System Properties > Advanced tab > Performance Options > Advance tab.
The 91 degrees was because they then began thermal throttling
imagine getting windows server only for the old background
btw welcome back
lol
Why someone would do that though?
Instead of paying 1000 dollars for Windows Server 2019, he just download the wallpaper from the internet
@@SunIsLost yea
@@SunIsLost windows server runs on older software and is not new and shiny like the consumers windows 10. The reason for that is reliability.
I think it's because Windows Server hasn't been updated since 2019, but Windows 10 is running on the latest 2021 update.
And here you have linux which doesn't take more than 400mb of ram idle😔
@@dazai2121 good luck with driver support
@@minkjay3218 Driver support isn't bad on linux, you do know most servers run linux, right?
@@minkjay3218 We don't live in 2010 anymore Linux driver support is nearly as good as driver support on Windows and sometimes even better because it's used in pretty much any Server.
It's gonna the a feature update to Windows Server 2021, 21H2 later this year.
A few things to consider:
1. These laptops come with a ton of drivers that have to be installed manually on 2019 and it is possible you have some divergence there.
2. Windows 10 comes with memory compression and software prefetch which might not be enabled on 2019 by default
3. The battery/performance profile settings seems different between the two, hence performance it is better to be benchmarked on desktops where these things might be set the same by default.
4. Windows 10 disk space "rot" over time is much more serious than the one on 2019 which makes the latter alot better with disk space management...
there's a reason why it has "server" attached to its name.
It is for high capacity storage, more RAM, 24/7 run time and better reliability compared to Win10.
just wanted clear few things,
love your content ✌
#Win7User
#LinuxUbuntuUser
#NoPCUser
#iPadUser
@@Gumballcom i pad 🤣🤣
#win7andwin10user
6:33 timing was a bit off, you didn't press enter at the same time in this clip so we don't actually know which loaded first, but I'm assuming its still windows
No it's mac
@@elijahlee3610 no it's shit
@@rosify_. Mac is better than windows
@@iicarplaying1930 not really, mac is shit for gaming. It can’t even run 32 bit programs unlike windows 10
@@nolan3312 I admit Macs are not the best when it comes to gaming but you can play Roblox minecraft fortnite and other minor steam games in 60 to 200 FPS if you got a m1 MacBook Pro or air
Make a part 2 where you use Windows Server 2022. It's available on the Evaluation center
just saying ur the only person that i subbed to as soon as i saw my the first vid that was made by them! some of my favorite youtubers im not even subbed to! i just feel like u answer every question that no one else does and i feel like i can relate, keep up the great work!
1:40 it means less software/bloatware runs in the background = less ram used on win server.
I can explain opening applications. By default on windows server, the system will allocate more resources to background services then user applications. If you open system properties advanced you can actually toggle off the setting. Hope this helps!
6:20 Windows 10 wins with .06 milliseconds, i still say same time
3:25 just test them one after the other, no need to test them at the same time
this is probably why server '19 failed miserably
He’s testing these on the exact same laptop, it’s not two laptops it’s the same one, just running both os’s to make it a fair test
@@AbiRose539 its not a fair test. its two laptops. look at the background and its not a greenscreen because its not grainy.
@@DeadUnderflow I'm looking at the background, there's literally a direct straight line showing where he cut it for the 2nd piece of footage, also how would he have two left hands??
You forgot to disable server-related features. Also it's not fair as they aren't the same version.
And forgot to change performance to „programs“ instead of background tasks. L
These tests are done really well, and I would love to see more!
4:45 computer may be thermal throttling due to dust
I think it might be fairer to compare Windows 10 version v1809 instead of the latest version versus Windows Server 2019, since server 2019 is based on 1809. Just saying.
I know right
Yeah, he should of done LTSC 2019 vs Server 2019 in my opinion, they are both based on Windows 10 v1809
Amazing comparison. I can totally imagine how hard it is to make such videos. Nice work man.
solely based on my observations, I think it's because SuperFetch is disabled or missing on Windows Server, which leads to less RAM usage and less cached apps in the background so in return, longer app launches.
I didn't know the windows server was so expensive 😲
Because Windows Server is more expensive than running Linux due to licensing costs,
Whait, are you telling me, my ultra low-end laptop came with a 1,300 dollar Windows server copy.... when bought at 200 dollars?!!
Yes lol
You are so lucky dude
People usually get Windows Server for the fact that Server edition has lesser application installed and one has lower resource usage. Windows server was used for running ASP.NET application and Hyper V
wrong. they get it because it doesnt recieve updates, and has less downtime.
It would have been better to compare it between Windows 10 and Windows 10 LTSC instead of Windows Server. If you ran the same tests on a server I'm sure Windows server would have demolished Windows 10.
What you tried is like trying to fire real bullets with a nerf gun.
It was still pretty interesting to watch.
It'll be very interesting to see what happens if you try Windows 10 vs LTSC.
LTSC is exactly like 10 but without and bloatware, cortana, microsoft store, windows update etc etc. I personally used both of them and Windows 10 LTSC was noticeably faster.
Love your content btw uwu.
these tests are too specific to say the test for the battery of one laptop the battery may be more degraded than the other for temperatures the one laptop may be more dusty than the other the test for the speed of opening applications may the disks whether they are the same or not more or less degraded because as we know HDDs and SSDs degrade many more
1:15 an explanation for this is because Windows 10 Server is a stripped down version of Windows 10. Windows 10 comes packaged with bloat and built in software where server doesn't even have edge by default.
Windows Server is for Servers and Datacenters which don’t require shut down or booting regularly
wrong choice of wording. don't want*.
Windows Server 2022 is released, and i'm still using Windows 10 20H2.
The bootup test was like 2 seconds slower for server edition but the bios took longer like 10 seconds longer to load. That is not influenced by the server edition. Feels a little rigged.
Are you know why people or company use servers? Not for usualy performance with word or excel... they use it for multitasking, many remote people connecting with rdp to server and working with some software as finance accounting or some else. Server system installing for stability, not for performance. P.S. what you will use for web server? Linux server, but no, maybe you will install it on Windows 10, as you dont know what Linux server are ;)
6:19 Windows 10 did won that test, I can see that it loaded it first in the slow motion.
Finally the legend is back WITH ANOTHER VIDEO!!!!
@sompots yes.
It's like saying that soy meat is better than beef. These are different things. But human beings like comparisons and you are to be congratulated for solving this doubt.
Do this again but with Windows 10 and Server 2022 now that Server 2022 is out and based on the latest version of Windows
I installed win server to my L420 laptop. Where did you found the drivers ?
Was Windows Server set on preferring programs instead of Services in advanced Settings?.
Fun fact: The reason why windows server battery life is better than normal windows 10 is due to the fact that server need longer to shutdown on ups if the main power is not stable or working.
bruh windows server has no battery life savers and the psu draws over 600w anyways so thats not how it works
@@DeadUnderflow So few words, so many errors. That is not what he meant.
Office generally keeps running in background from startup I guess which is not the case in windows server
WHICH RECORDER DO YOU USE FOR RECORDING THE VIDS ON PC ?
you cant compare this versions because windows server is not use for desktop pc. you can run a lot of services that you cant run in normal windows versions
additionally, the reason for the battery life being so much better is because that's something server prioritises. But not for laptops. Server optimises for UPSs and Backup Generators to ensure as much uptime as possible, even if the power has gone out.
Good job man keep upgrade all the best👍👍👍
I always get Windows for free, either by .ISO images or pre-installed with pre-built PCs
r/madlads
Never paid for windows and never will pay. When I need to activate windows I just search “how to activate windows 10 for free” on TH-cam and click the first tutorial. Works every time.
@@aqua_whale I just search for [CENSORED BY MICROSOFT] on Google
syek tcudorP
@@LegoWormNoah101 why did you erase “product keys”, write “CENSORED BY MICROSOFT” and product keys backwards at the bottom
@@dank980 I am avoiding a lawsuit
@@LegoWormNoah101 i don't think microsoft sues people based on youtube comments
For a proper test you need the same build versions, which in this case should be 1809. Newer versions of Windows 10 have some optimizations of the code that server does not have.
Also you really should shoot this on the same laptop. Even similarly spec'ed memory sticks, but slightly different, a different SSD or even dried out thermal paste on the CPU can affect these scores.
He’s testing these on the exact same laptop, it’s not two laptops it’s the same one, just running both os’s to make it a fair test, it’s edited to put the laptops side by side, that’s why he has two left hands lol
no its 2 laptops you can see by the background
@@DeadUnderflow oh yeah so he smh decides to paint his walls with huge color difference or he shoots at different time.
@@estellebright2579 yes different wallpaper
2:10 that is because one may have more dust. this isnt a good test.
3:30 this is because you are using different servers per speed test, and you aren't using ethernet. also, speedtest has too many ads and can easily glitch some machines.
4:45 computer may be thermal throttling due to dust
5:15 because servers are not supposed to open apps fast, it needs to keep them open for longer though. also it looks like that one is charging while the other one isn't. charged laptops usually throttle, making the experience slower.
6:12 that is from internet speed.
7:01 because server admins usually need faster file transfer speeds
7:51 because windows server isnt for home use
we really need you to make videos about win 11 ...you are only legit tech channel on yt
i can name channels more legit, linus tech tips, mrwhostheboss, and more
2:23 i can guess the fan curves are different , also you need to see if the server is on turbo or not, the Windows home does try to save power , that results in less heat. In the case of Windows server, power usage is not a problem
Welcome back to TH-cam.
Before watching the video. At 0:20 (why choose microsoft server), well because then i'm absolutely certain there will be no BS in the OS. I'm using Microsoft (windows) Server 2022 - Datacenter edition and i'll never go back to consumer versions again. Default account is administrator, which I was already using in pro so that's perfect!
(ps: i know what i'm doing).
About loading times, windows server and pro is comparable. Boot times are the same.
Also, when conducting a speed test. You don't do it at the same time, for obvious reasons.
windows 10 vs windows 11 pls
Main difference is Windows Server supports more powerful hardware. Windows 10 Pro has a max limit of 2 TB of RAM, Windows Server allows for 24 TB. A desktop user is unlikely even to consider such a large amount of RAM, but servers can make good use of their greater RAM capacity Windows 10 has a limit on processors as well. The Windows 10 Home edition only supports one physical cpu, while Windows 10 Pro supports two. Server 2016 support upto 64 sockets.Similarly, a 32-bit copy of Windows 10 only supports 32 cores, and the 64-bit version support 256 cores, but Windows Server has no limit for cores.
you know that the reason people would buy windows server is because they run a server right? not because they want less ram usage
Storage Used: Windows Server takes EXACTLY two thirds of windows 10 os
Because 91C is the TDP limit of the processor. That’s where it’ll throttle on any OS.
What do you think of Windows 11?
One thing worth mentioning. Software license on windows server tends to be way more expensive than on windows 10 counterpart. From 3x or so to 10x or higher. Sometimes windows server will need a license that is called “site license” compared to “personal/home license”.
And tbh, windows have come a long way that even personal use of windows 10 is good and stable enough that windows server’s extra stability and whatnot is not that necessary for most home/professional users, unless you legit run server grade software/hardware (e.g. ecc memory)
great demo keep up the work :-)
Great vid as always!
Windows server is designed to run Server Functions - Communications, Web Hosting, Domain Hosting Services, Production Services, Hosting CRM. There are also additonal functions that can be added such as image hosting services, domain and active directory hosting. I do know Programmers that use Server for Web Hosting and Functionality testing. Otherwise, there is not much reason to use Windows Server.
He deserves WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more subs.
nah he doesnt
@@dihor9575 Well, the videos need a bit of work but I think he should
servers main purpose is to run the services background, unless like normal windows focus on foreground application... that's why a server can be accessed from any no. of systems
Wow amazing vid ❤️👍
THE LEGEND IS BACK!
Well after win7 I switched to linux and I haven't even test any other win os so I cannot tell.
However back in the day we use to install windows server 2008 instead of windows 7. The deference was stability. After a tone of tweaking the server edition was as fast or faster and more stable than win7. The downside was some freaking drivers issues..
I can only guess that if you tweak win server 2019 the same way it could perform the same or even better...
My Windows 10 Pro uses 1.4GB RAM and I'm not joking, I can even prove. Anyways, I just used something called "Windows 10 Tweaker" that has removed all the bloat from it, before that I also used "Windows 10 Debloater" the most popular one. My windows looks clean and fast.
Windows Server 2025 got released in May 29, 2024. Do a speed test between Windows 11 and Windows Server 2025!
Servers have as CPU priority background programs second from the video it is noticable that the server os is not activated wich might slow or kill some kernel accelerators
Windows server is made for servers, not for personal use, especially on a laptop
I cannot think of a scenario where someone would install windows server to just daily drive that machine, other than fun and curiosity, unless you actually use that machine as a server. It's like getting a big heavy truck for your everyday movement. It's just meant for different use.
Please make a video on Windows 11 vs 10 vs 8 vs 8.1 vs 7
Love your videos you are best 👍
I can confirm, Windows Server is purchased due to the Windows Server software and its ability to utilize Active Directory.
Declares why I use both windows 7 and macOS High Sierra
haha, big sur, "free" but fu** me, that's a bloody expensive version of windows. lol.
Anyway, Windows Server comes with server software. It can support up to 24 TB of RAM whereas W10 is 2 TB if not mistaken. Windows server also supports more sockets (processors) than W10 by a lot. W10 allows 2 at most, if not mistaken. W-Server doesn't come with all that bloatware shit in W10 out of the box, like Edge, Microsoft Store, etc.
Therefore, in terms of a server perspective, Windows Server wins on the basis of the extra features. W10 is for the user experience whereas the Windows server is for the server admins to bitch about among ourselves. haha.
Windows server is tuned to prioritise system files not applications.
This is not a secret, its clearly visible in advanced settings and designed that way.
Simple homework would of worked that test out !
Difference in temp can explain differences in boot up times. Differences in temp can be explained in just that one thinkpad is dirty or more used, or different thermal paste, also can be just the silicon lottery, but i bet it is ambient difference, like the wind moving from left to right , so , the second is sucking air heated from the first thinkpad, and so on.
Hey TrigrZolt, please make a video about Windows 11 insider!
6:20 if you go into frame by frame mode, a.k.a pressing the ", ()" key, and you can just barely see that its just 1 frame faster for Windows 10 (not server).
There is a couple of problems with your tests
1- its really improbable that both batteries have been used exactly the same throughout your laptopses lifes, therefore, its expected that one battery lasts longer than the other one, you should have tested with the same battery.
2- you can't test the wi-fi at the same time, wi-fi is a pretty messed up technology, its really hard to predict how its gonna perform, specially at the same time. Also there's the router firmware problem, its highly probable that your router just picked one of the laptops to give more priority for.
Besides that, great video
this is actually 1 laptop running diffrent oses but it was edited to look like there is 2 side by side.
Windows Server doesn't have a power saving mode because its an OS for servers and not for laptops. But every program you run in Windows Server, It have lot or resources like ram or disk, that Windows 10 probably make a software limit to a program like Chrome to make the system interface smoothly than a server.
they started not at the same time, second notebook had longer post time, you can see it by bios, you should cut video in half and sync them to know which loaded faster, and not give 1 score to notebook which just started the bios faster.
Yea, this video failed right from the start.
Windows server is meant to always be online a boot up test isnt fair
i belive that having 2 speed tests running at the same time will confict with the other, do one at a time
3:30 this is because you are using different servers per speed test, and you aren't using ethernet. also, speedtest has too many ads and can easily glitch some machines.
Video can you do about the late version of windows 11
with the opening tests. windows server probably has more checks before it opens programs thats why it would take longer.
Ur content is amazing keep up the good work!
Do a tutorial on how to update from windows 7 service pack 1 to service pack 2 or 3
what do you think of windows 11? will you install it when it gets released?
if he has a system running a new amd cpu or a intel cpu higher then 7th gen then only after that he would be able to
@@blanchardhvh i have an i5-8600 and im running windows 11 just fine
also, incase you didnt know theres a bypass for TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot.
@@nullifiedpntr yes, currently you dont need those specs to run it, those are the specs for the official launch, not the insider build.
@@nullifiedpntr i5-8600 is 8th gen
was windows server 2003 more expensive than xp? it was made more restricted so it should be cheaper, right?
xp was $100
@@DeadUnderflow it was more in some contries
ok some heres some things wrong
1, wifi test you ran them together and well wifi will prioritize some devices over others
2, the boot time will be different on what settings you use
3, 2019 was not the latest at the time of upload
4, app boot time, again depends on settings
5, everything depends on setting with windows server, and im going to guess you never configured it correctly
6, you can get windows server for free
7, virus scanning should have been done with windows defender since server defender is better and more optimized
8, whats the hardware in both devices, ssd? hdd? what cpu difference and ram, even at same ram size you can have big differences
9, I run windows server 22 and I can say that theres a noticeable difference in speed when configured correctly. instant boot, etc
10, what version of chrome are you using since I never can get chrome over 1.5gb even with tons of tabs
6. only for 30 days then it restarts all the time
10 he probably turned off hardware acceleration
Once Windows 10 LTSC 2021 is released, you should compare Windows 10 Pro and LTSC latest versions then, since new LTSC versions are only released every 2-3 years.
But there is windows 11
@@teodortodorov6974 yeah but pretty sure it would be better to compare it with 10 since most people would still be running 10 and Windows 10's last feature update is also going to be 21H2.