Dassix 1 exactly! waterfall works very well in defined, very obvious contexts wherein no real unanswered questions lie. Scrum on the other hand is very handy for kind of complex contexts in which we don’t know the full scope of the problem we’re tackling. Peace
After reading the Scrum Guide for 2020 for almost a dozen times now, I've got to say that this script is pretty much well crafted in terms of the application, theory, and for that organizational argument about Scrum adoption. Jared is such an inspiration to be a Scrum Master.
That Scrum Board is nowhere near the Scrum Guide 2020. I mean sure it's okay for teams to adjust and have their own specific custom Scrum Board, but let's not make it sounds like the Scrum Guide requires it to be that complicated. One of Scrum's principles is Focus, so it's important to use just what's absolutely necessary
So you actually admit to reading the scrum guide almost a dozen times? As a long suffering scrum victim I can only quote Guilfoyle: "why don't you choke on my balls?"
Well, 95% (some even say 99%) of startups failed within their 1st year, and this show has followed Pied Piper to its 6th year. That's much longer than most would consider the appropriate age of a startup
This is unbelievably accurate. I'm an IT developer and we have 30 minute scrum meetings every single day, except our board is about twice this size with 20 shades of fucking postit notes.
It's fine except for the condescendingly insider vernacular. Is they had just made it functionally descriptive engineers wouldn't regard it with disdain
30 minute scrum meetings, how tf did people let that happen. It's supposed to be 15 minutes at maximum, preferably like half that. That's why it's called a "standup"... you're literally supposed to stand up through the whole meeting so that people keep it moving.
I remember screaming 'I HAD ALMOST THE SAME SCRUM EXPLANATION GIVEN TO ME' when I saw this first air on HBO... it's a scary funny feeling to know how well they captured people's feelings when introducing SCRUM to a dev or product team. I just wished they also lambasted JIRA in the same scene...
same thing with gender studies. The entire reason people study gender studies is to teach the next generate of people studying gender studies, its like a circle of uselessnes
Problem with scrum IS managers. Using it as micromanaging tool, using estimates as deadlines and converting process that is pretty much experimental and error prone to publicly humiliating risk averse process. Not to mention you have to literally spend days every sprint on doing this side work.
Scrum is hard to do right. But, you should complete all the work in the sprint that you committed to delivering. If you don’t, you have to adjust how many points get put into the sprint. If you’re gaming the system... well the manager will fire you. I’m sorry you had a bad experience. The managers should be doing most of the planning, not the entire team, so that you’re not holding the entire team up for days, just for the sprint planning, estimations, and retro, so about 2-3 hours every sprint.
@@elliemay1748 Wow... that sounds like heaven. I've seen this done correctly. I've seen it done badly more often, but usually because of bad training. I kid you not, my team had a 1-hour stand up, where we all went to the high-rise cafeteria and talked for an hour. If a "blocker" was brought up, the manager would say, "keep trying."
"Psych 101 mind control MBA bullshit" - best definition of SCRUM ever. Things like kanban boards are perfectly fine tools, but the whole 'scrum culture' and the admin nonsense that pops up around it is just.... cringe.
"This just became a job describes" how I feel about waterfall, agile, scrum and six sigma seperately and together lol I swear Gilfoyle is my inner voice during every meeting I have ever been my life.
And the new coworker I just got that inspired me to come rewatch this, he's an instructor/master in ALL of those, from the Marine Corps. So great, my job just became more of a job lol.
I dont think Gilfoyle is a legit programmer. Look at his hands when he types! No real computer guy could last long typing like that! He is begging for RSI!
I think Gilfoyle has mastered a revolutionary way to ignore RSI in a healthy manner. He just refuses to tell everyone why it doesn't apply to him because it would leave a shitload of people out of jobs when sales and treatments go down, so he's chosen not to be an asshole and keeps his technique to himself. That, plus he also hopes that Dinesh gets it.
When Gilfoyle said "This just became a job", I burst into laughter. This is literally what we do 😂 Even the same fcking explanation is spot on. What I hate most in scrum is our manager. Instead of using it as a tool for efficiency, he's using it to micromanage us.
SCRUM Master certification that needs to be renewed regularly? Check. "If your project fails you didn't follow the process rigorously enough"? Check. Nonsensical nomenclatures? Check. Scrum is a religion. And don't get me started on the whole "Storypoints are complexity not time" thing. They are time. You goddamn map it to time. It's time.
@@NatureFreak1127 I am no Scrum guru, but if you calculate velocity, then story points/velocity=time. It's more akin to distance. Better coder still can´t work 26 hours a day. That what is meant by that story points is a measure of complexity. But in my team, we just call those man-hours, assign 5 a day to a coder and call it a day. Who can accurately predict these anyway? The complexity of this process must not be such that it actually slows development or is a hurdle as of itself.
Our company gave up and just said 1 point = 1 day of work. Doing scrum / agile by the book is just asking for trouble. Also I am convinced that scrum master certification is a pyramid scheme of some sort
Rob R it’s kind of a combo of both, because they estimated the back log (I don’t know why they called it “ice box” here because that’s something different) so they kind of did scrum because they had a sprint planning meeting, and they didn’t prioritize the back log which is necessary for kanban, and the manager assigned tickets to the devs so, again that’s scrum... it’s really more scrum than kanban but it’s also not really either of them.
Kanban and Scrum can be used together because Scrum focuses on time boxes and Kanban is about tracking story status. We used a similar hybrid at my last job.
I liked the whole run, but I think losing TJ Miller was a noticeable hole that made the show a tad bit weaker for the last 2 seasons. They tried to fill his absence with more Jian-Yang, and it was decent, but it just wasn't the same.
Gilfoil was corrrect. Those are not stories! They are tasks. A story is a large requirement consisting of multiple tasks. You only estimate tasks. If they are in a story, the estimate for the story is the sum of the tasks.
+FromTheFlame29 correct, at least in Jira. The writers correctly highlight that a story is a glorified synonym for a task and that epic is a buzzword describing a collection of tasks.
"A story is a large requirement consisting of multiple tasks." OK, but the more pressing issue is whether "choke on my balls" is, as Gilfoyle suggests, a story rather than a task.
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A story is a requirement written from the perspective of the user/client. It is broken down or combined with other stories into a task or multiple tasks. An epic contains multiple stories.
"I've got a story, why don't you choke on my balls" @1:41 has to to be the epitome of inner thoughts that engineers want to say to their PMs every friggin sprint planning. This show perfectly captures the hilarity of Silicon Valley work culture. Engineers saying fuck you I do this because I like it and I'm good at it so don't tell me what to do, and PMs being like yeah that's cool, but we need to run a business so we can keep paying you outrageous salaries so shut up and do your job. And engineer CEOs who also hate process but begrudgingly admit that its needed cause velocity is a shit show. This dynamic is beautifully illustrated lol
I don't understand the hate with scrum. What's wrong with dividing up a project into smaller tasks and tackling them one at a time? That's what you're suppose to do as a programmer.
Kyle Netherwood lol it's turns out to be a race between teammates and time becomes factor and fear of deadline that ends up with short cuts to achieve tasks ... Yeahhhhh you completed but wait until it comes back with double load on your head..
It's about autonomy. Reality is, many programmers are arrogant, although the culture of "PC, non-toxic" that's popular right now in the world (and by extension/more importantly, HR) curbs most of this in large companies. I don't know how other fields react to an ignorant outside force, but if a non-engineer/programmer tells devs what to do, a percentage of them will be irked that some PM that graduated from Fuckville University with a BA in polisci and an MBA in marketing is telling them what and how to do things. Especially if said PM is bad at his job (let's implement blockchain on our website!), which'll double the workload with scrum with 0 gain. Then at that point, fuck it, maybe even autonomous waterfall is better than a dictatorial scrum. But yes. Done correctly, scrum is a way of getting software out quicker.
I was far more productive before I had waste time with scrum, nearly as big of a time sink as emails. As for estimating times, it always felt like I was being asked how long it would take to drive from one side of a city to the other without being told which city.
I've been in this field 20 years now. It's amazing how many devs hate scrum but love kanban when scrum is just kanban where you only plan every two weeks. Now I know you will say kanban is flow etc. but in well functioning teams scrum stories all get broken down into mostly the same size and you basically should end up in flow. The sprint intervals in scrum exists to provide some rigidity so that, in larger groups, you don't constantly get bombarded with change requests, hot tickets, etc. You can just say "that's nice, unless it's really urgent I'll see you in two weeks" and get some work done. To be clear I'm commenting on this video because I came back to watch it because I love this scene. It's hilarious. My comments above are in response to the comments.
As much as I hate bending under the gaze of any management technique, communication errors are quite literally why I drink. So many wasted hours, trying to accomplish something without success. I could have spent my nights loving life, rather than pondering death.
Do you think there's no other methodologies? Engineering has many methodologies, fully developed and mature that actually allows to have requirements, analyze and design without going thru the march of public shaming that scrum is.
I remember having to delve into various project methodologies for a course...I remember thinking how intro and tutorials came off as very....."Cultish"
New coworker who's a Marine Corps trained SCRUM master, and he was pretty impressed with what I knew until I showed him this clip as where I learned it all.
I first saw this episode about 4-5 years ago, and about 3 years ago, I asked my boss to implement Scrum. She said she had no idea what that was, and like 3 other managers agreed with her. Now I'm in school for CS and I'm watching this to help me in my Software Engineering class. My, how things come full circle!
Have a CS interview today and the application says must have a good understanding of Scrum framework... came here to brush up of my knowledge
How'd it go?
completly bad when he told him ”why dont u cholk on ma balls”
this is kanban tho
@@greywolf187 that's correct. Or scrumban
@@jorgeriveramx 6 week sprint maybe? It's excessive
master piece of a show. I miss it so much
“Maybe my leisurely pace is just a little bit faster than yours” 😂
That's it. That's all I needed to know. I'm applying for the Certified Scrum Master certification.
I wish I knew scrum when I was in school, damn! still graduated, but damn!
"Fuck off. We're working." 😂😂
richard feynman once made the same bet that he could sniff out an object.
I need to watch this series again.
I just started rewatching it the other day, it still holds up. What a great show mike judge is a legend
Love presentation from jared dunn
This is me in my company now😱😰🤣
Beautiful
Scrum > Kanban > Scrumban
Don't @ me
Лучший сериал в мире
"No tasks, STORIES".... Oh.... my... GOD! 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
1:20 does anyone recognize what software shows up on this screen?
One of the Jetbrains IDEs?
But isn't that board a kanban board?
The fuck is this shit, glad I know how to weld 😎
WHAT WAS OUT FRONT
A truly spectacular garage door
"This just became a job."
exactly...
Firebrand Heard it as I scrolled down to see this.
*angry face*
Gilfoyle gets all the best lines
Yeah, who would ever want to do something worthwhile *on purpose*?
That's exactly what I thought when I was introduced to scrum: "THIS JUST BECAME A JOB"
bapluda wait is scrum a real thing
We use scrum at work but our workboard is on a website instead of an actual board.
Dassix 1 exactly! waterfall works very well in defined, very obvious contexts wherein no real unanswered questions lie. Scrum on the other hand is very handy for kind of complex contexts in which we don’t know the full scope of the problem we’re tackling. Peace
@@rice83101 incompetent people believe in just one method for all tasks... you can combine the two for developement within release cycles
phil jml it used to be a creative outlet but with all the scrum bullshit it's no longer about passion. Hence it just became a job.
the best course ever about scrum i think
and it's about kanban, unfortunate
Funny is that I was looking for a video that would explain it so I can implement it at work
Konstantine Shengelia Kanban, saFe, JIRA all part of our daily lives now
Major issue is difficulty of stories shouldn't be assessed by time to complete
Scrum is easy to understand, but hard to master
Jared was the glue to this company
Indeed.
@@saisubhash8907 No, Pied Piper
and useless
@@shohruhjurakulov1079 Useless? He literally saved this company on multiple occasions. Especially at the start. What show have you been watching?
@@theascendunt9960 still useless
Is there anyone else here who's just watched a video about scrum and came back here to see Jered's explanation?
Watch Silicon Valley online here => twitter.com/fa91d03149e3e4e2d/status/824453837792567296
@@magicgame8735 thats a tweet
Currently studying for my Scrum exam, came back to get more of an understanding haha
When no one updates the Trello.
And you use the faded card function so you open up your Trello one day and every card looks like an old-ass pirate treasure map.
I only have access to the online version so...
I thought it was a voluntary thing
Trello is evil.
Notion ain't it fam
After reading the Scrum Guide for 2020 for almost a dozen times now, I've got to say that this script is pretty much well crafted in terms of the application, theory, and for that organizational argument about Scrum adoption. Jared is such an inspiration to be a Scrum Master.
That Scrum Board is nowhere near the Scrum Guide 2020. I mean sure it's okay for teams to adjust and have their own specific custom Scrum Board, but let's not make it sounds like the Scrum Guide requires it to be that complicated. One of Scrum's principles is Focus, so it's important to use just what's absolutely necessary
From my academic experience, this is kanban/scrumban instead of an actual scrum. They are all agile so….. they are still right.
So you actually admit to reading the scrum guide almost a dozen times? As a long suffering scrum victim I can only quote Guilfoyle: "why don't you choke on my balls?"
This is kanban, not scrum. There is no sprint and no scrum rituals. Kanban can exist within scrum and usually does, but this is just pure kanban.
You guys need a life.
Why 20 seasons for Grey's anatomy, and this masterpiece is already at the end....?
The power of female viewers
Exactly :-/
Sometimes less is more.
@@r3furbish3dbrain12 I mean, they had one of the best series finales of all time, so I would say they ended exactly at the right time
Well, 95% (some even say 99%) of startups failed within their 1st year, and this show has followed Pied Piper to its 6th year. That's much longer than most would consider the appropriate age of a startup
This is unbelievably accurate. I'm an IT developer and we have 30 minute scrum meetings every single day, except our board is about twice this size with 20 shades of fucking postit notes.
It's fine except for the condescendingly insider vernacular. Is they had just made it functionally descriptive engineers wouldn't regard it with disdain
30 minute scrum meetings, how tf did people let that happen. It's supposed to be 15 minutes at maximum, preferably like half that. That's why it's called a "standup"... you're literally supposed to stand up through the whole meeting so that people keep it moving.
30 minutes? those are rookie numbers. Try 60
"IT Developer"
@akshaynatu1084everybody needs to be managed.
I remember screaming 'I HAD ALMOST THE SAME SCRUM EXPLANATION GIVEN TO ME' when I saw this first air on HBO... it's a scary funny feeling to know how well they captured people's feelings when introducing SCRUM to a dev or product team. I just wished they also lambasted JIRA in the same scene...
Fucking JIRA….
Is that bad? I am waiting to get access to it. 😅
@@Mone7Hero77 once you get in, there is no way out...
I love Jira
@@Mone7Hero77 Jira sucks. SCRUM sucks more. Its managements excuse to load crap tons of red time instead of actually getting things done.
The world seems to be filled with managing, sales, HR, and marketing people desperately trying to justify their salary.
Correct.
I have a couple of projects going where I have to wear all those hats at once.
Now all my alter egos hate each other.
same thing with gender studies. The entire reason people study gender studies is to teach the next generate of people studying gender studies, its like a circle of uselessnes
All my cards seem to end up in the emergency column....
Problem with scrum IS managers. Using it as micromanaging tool, using estimates as deadlines and converting process that is pretty much experimental and error prone to publicly humiliating risk averse process. Not to mention you have to literally spend days every sprint on doing this side work.
perfeclty summed up
At my job we have the problem that devs refuse to cooperante to estimate, so they always play around until two days before the deadline
Scrum is hard to do right. But, you should complete all the work in the sprint that you committed to delivering. If you don’t, you have to adjust how many points get put into the sprint. If you’re gaming the system... well the manager will fire you. I’m sorry you had a bad experience. The managers should be doing most of the planning, not the entire team, so that you’re not holding the entire team up for days, just for the sprint planning, estimations, and retro, so about 2-3 hours every sprint.
@@elliemay1748 Wow... that sounds like heaven. I've seen this done correctly. I've seen it done badly more often, but usually because of bad training. I kid you not, my team had a 1-hour stand up, where we all went to the high-rise cafeteria and talked for an hour. If a "blocker" was brought up, the manager would say, "keep trying."
So true
Those guys need to #Pivot
longhorn2615 like Ross said: PIVOT...PIVOT...PIVOT!!! xD
Pivot
Pivot
PIVOT
shut up
shut up
SHUT UP
"Psych 101 mind control MBA bullshit" - best definition of SCRUM ever. Things like kanban boards are perfectly fine tools, but the whole 'scrum culture' and the admin nonsense that pops up around it is just.... cringe.
it has some "cult" vibes...
Scrum is basically just a modified form of kanban where you only replan at the end of the sprint.
Learning in 3 minutes what took me 3 weeks in university 😆
They tend to over explain simple things
1:48 Gilfoyle and Jared balance is comedy gold. It's like Cartman x Butters.
Yeah... Sort of...
But Jared fucks
@@gersoncruz91 So does Butters, but only Canadian chicks.
Guilfoyle's line delivery at 1:42 is A+
Deserves an Oscar
Edmund Huang yeah I love this movie
He was still speaking fast then 😅
A++
"This just became a job describes" how I feel about waterfall, agile, scrum and six sigma seperately and together lol I swear Gilfoyle is my inner voice during every meeting I have ever been my life.
And the new coworker I just got that inspired me to come rewatch this, he's an instructor/master in ALL of those, from the Marine Corps. So great, my job just became more of a job lol.
I dont think Gilfoyle is a legit programmer. Look at his hands when he types! No real computer guy could last long typing like that! He is begging for RSI!
Exactly, he is sitting on some awkward desk.
I think Gilfoyle has mastered a revolutionary way to ignore RSI in a healthy manner. He just refuses to tell everyone why it doesn't apply to him because it would leave a shitload of people out of jobs when sales and treatments go down, so he's chosen not to be an asshole and keeps his technique to himself. That, plus he also hopes that Dinesh gets it.
hes a network guy, hes just a packet pusher :D
what is RSI?
Repetitive strain injury
When Gilfoyle said "This just became a job", I burst into laughter. This is literally what we do 😂 Even the same fcking explanation is spot on. What I hate most in scrum is our manager. Instead of using it as a tool for efficiency, he's using it to micromanage us.
Damn, I love that board.
I wish i could post one for each project i have going.. but my apartment would be 90% board and 10% shelving.. damn where will i put the doors
I already don't like you
@@HelloThere-xs8ss Found a lazy-ass.
182 scrum "masters" disliked this video ! 😂
"Maybe my leisurely pace is just a little faster than yours." love this show
At work, whenever the “scrum master” talks, my eyes glaze over and my brain turns off.
Wall of Psych 101 MBA mind control bullshit 😅. I mean I can’t disagree
"Fuck off, we're working" ..Danesh has the most unexpected replies.
Jesus Christ this is the HARDEST I've ever related to content in my life.
SCRUM Master certification that needs to be renewed regularly? Check.
"If your project fails you didn't follow the process rigorously enough"? Check.
Nonsensical nomenclatures? Check.
Scrum is a religion. And don't get me started on the whole "Storypoints are complexity not time" thing. They are time. You goddamn map it to time. It's time.
It's impossible for the process to fail, so any failures are on you.
absolutely. It fucking IS time. I am tired of explaining this to my manager.
Omg, thank you! I thought I was dumb, when I couldn't understand how storypoints aren't measure of time.
@@NatureFreak1127 I am no Scrum guru, but if you calculate velocity, then story points/velocity=time. It's more akin to distance. Better coder still can´t work 26 hours a day. That what is meant by that story points is a measure of complexity. But in my team, we just call those man-hours, assign 5 a day to a coder and call it a day. Who can accurately predict these anyway? The complexity of this process must not be such that it actually slows development or is a hurdle as of itself.
Our company gave up and just said 1 point = 1 day of work. Doing scrum / agile by the book is just asking for trouble. Also I am convinced that scrum master certification is a pyramid scheme of some sort
This is actually just Kanban.
That's right. I've been looking for this comment.
Me too
Well it's a kanban board but it still kinnnnda has a bit of scrum/agile in it. They mentioned epic and user stories, so meh haha
Rob R, Came here to say kanban is just another flavor of agile.
@@asanokatana Isn't agile the overall methodology and, scrum and kanban the flavors?
tis kanban actually =o
The company i work for brought in a complete MBA moron to implement SCRUM in our company too. All the Technical guys despised it.
.. it still worked
This is more kanban than scrum. But still a funny scene.
yuck...
Rob R it’s kind of a combo of both, because they estimated the back log (I don’t know why they called it “ice box” here because that’s something different) so they kind of did scrum because they had a sprint planning meeting, and they didn’t prioritize the back log which is necessary for kanban, and the manager assigned tickets to the devs so, again that’s scrum... it’s really more scrum than kanban but it’s also not really either of them.
Kanban and Scrum can be used together because Scrum focuses on time boxes and Kanban is about tracking story status. We used a similar hybrid at my last job.
Man, I binged 6 seasons in 2 weeks. The semi-disappointing finale almost made me forget what a gem this was for the first few seasons
I liked the whole run, but I think losing TJ Miller was a noticeable hole that made the show a tad bit weaker for the last 2 seasons. They tried to fill his absence with more Jian-Yang, and it was decent, but it just wasn't the same.
@@roy4922 People love Jian-Yang but I could never stand the guy. I missed Ehrlich.
"guess he didn't had enough elvis dust on him"
Can't believe after watching tons of videos on how scrum operate in real life, this video made it all clear for me!
"This just became a job..." hahahah love it! :D
Scrum works perfectly when people hate each other
Alternatively, scrum can MAKE people hate eachother, at which point it will start working perfectly.
I laughed my ass off in class when my Software Systems and Analysis teacher mention Scrum just because of this scene.
Was going to send this to my coworkers until 1:42 hahahaha
1:42 was the only reason I sent this to my co-workers :D
Gilfoil was corrrect. Those are not stories! They are tasks.
A story is a large requirement consisting of multiple tasks.
You only estimate tasks. If they are in a story, the estimate for the story is the sum of the tasks.
gilfoil
like they said, it maybe four hours or maybe a year for that task
+FromTheFlame29 correct, at least in Jira. The writers correctly highlight that a story is a glorified synonym for a task and that epic is a buzzword describing a collection of tasks.
"A story is a large requirement consisting of multiple tasks."
OK, but the more pressing issue is whether "choke on my balls" is, as Gilfoyle suggests, a story rather than a task.
A story is a requirement written from the perspective of the user/client. It is broken down or combined with other stories into a task or multiple tasks. An epic contains multiple stories.
Dammit, what was out front?
This very inappropriate logo had been painted on their garage door. i.imgur.com/vutPkwF.jpg (It makes sense in context.)
alxg833 we need a video with the garage and the weed
I studied scrum method just 2 weeks back in my curriculum..I totally get what jared said..🤣 go scrum team..
I could watch Dinesh & Gilfoyle arguing with each other for 24 hours straight.
Got a job interview in an hour, coming back here for a quick refresher on SCRUM
🤣
"I've got a story, why don't you choke on my balls" @1:41 has to to be the epitome of inner thoughts that engineers want to say to their PMs every friggin sprint planning. This show perfectly captures the hilarity of Silicon Valley work culture. Engineers saying fuck you I do this because I like it and I'm good at it so don't tell me what to do, and PMs being like yeah that's cool, but we need to run a business so we can keep paying you outrageous salaries so shut up and do your job. And engineer CEOs who also hate process but begrudgingly admit that its needed cause velocity is a shit show. This dynamic is beautifully illustrated lol
i write software -- and happy to have no idea what scrum or agile or any of that bullshit is all about.
It's Kanban not scrum
I already miss this show :(
lmao did gabe got fired from sabre and joined a startup?
the way he says "booyah" is just so funny
"Psych101-MBA-MindControl-Bullshit"
their chair is so uncomfortable, how they sit on it all day long?
It's a TV show
and gilfoly seating position also uncomfortable
Nice job Jared. That guy definitely f*s.
I don't understand the hate with scrum. What's wrong with dividing up a project into smaller tasks and tackling them one at a time? That's what you're suppose to do as a programmer.
BrainDeadZombies what they hate is the time to the milestone set by a pm with no programming experience
They split it into smaller tasks anyway; scrum is just the method of communicating who is doing what.
Kyle Netherwood lol it's turns out to be a race between teammates and time becomes factor and fear of deadline that ends up with short cuts to achieve tasks ... Yeahhhhh you completed but wait until it comes back with double load on your head..
It's about autonomy. Reality is, many programmers are arrogant, although the culture of "PC, non-toxic" that's popular right now in the world (and by extension/more importantly, HR) curbs most of this in large companies. I don't know how other fields react to an ignorant outside force, but if a non-engineer/programmer tells devs what to do, a percentage of them will be irked that some PM that graduated from Fuckville University with a BA in polisci and an MBA in marketing is telling them what and how to do things. Especially if said PM is bad at his job (let's implement blockchain on our website!), which'll double the workload with scrum with 0 gain. Then at that point, fuck it, maybe even autonomous waterfall is better than a dictatorial scrum. But yes. Done correctly, scrum is a way of getting software out quicker.
I was far more productive before I had waste time with scrum, nearly as big of a time sink as emails. As for estimating times, it always felt like I was being asked how long it would take to drive from one side of a city to the other without being told which city.
I've been in this field 20 years now. It's amazing how many devs hate scrum but love kanban when scrum is just kanban where you only plan every two weeks. Now I know you will say kanban is flow etc. but in well functioning teams scrum stories all get broken down into mostly the same size and you basically should end up in flow. The sprint intervals in scrum exists to provide some rigidity so that, in larger groups, you don't constantly get bombarded with change requests, hot tickets, etc. You can just say "that's nice, unless it's really urgent I'll see you in two weeks" and get some work done.
To be clear I'm commenting on this video because I came back to watch it because I love this scene. It's hilarious. My comments above are in response to the comments.
0:31 That face is just "why tf am i hearing this"
As much as I hate bending under the gaze of any management technique, communication errors are quite literally why I drink. So many wasted hours, trying to accomplish something without success. I could have spent my nights loving life, rather than pondering death.
"Not tasks, storys" LOL
I remember when they were telling people in school about this scrum bullshit. I'm surprised it was still relevant in 2014
10 years ago?! 😮
Leisurely pace...
Ok why tf is he explaining scrum to a group of full grown engineers
Do you think there's no other methodologies? Engineering has many methodologies, fully developed and mature that actually allows to have requirements, analyze and design without going thru the march of public shaming that scrum is.
I've haven't watched Silicon Valley but I'm taking the Scrum Master certificate and this clip was recommended by the trainer. Now I'm intrigued 😛
I really don't understand how a house full of developers, didn't knew about scrum...
Because there are many other methodologies. Real, developed methodologies that allows to analyze, have requirements, design and estimate.
I remember having to delve into various project methodologies for a course...I remember thinking how intro and tutorials came off as very....."Cultish"
New coworker who's a Marine Corps trained SCRUM master, and he was pretty impressed with what I knew until I showed him this clip as where I learned it all.
No story grooming? Direct estimating.
i am dealing with this.... daily... 😆 😆 😆
This is literally my job. I’m the Jared 😭
I used this on my team on last day of our sprint and it worked like a charm. People were so happy to move their cards to complete
Taking advantage of Prisoner's dillema. Check.
I use this for my school work to this day thank you Jared
I love how they think there are way too smart for this but end up caught in it in a matter of seconds !
one of the best series of all time things are accurate
I first saw this episode about 4-5 years ago, and about 3 years ago, I asked my boss to implement Scrum. She said she had no idea what that was, and like 3 other managers agreed with her. Now I'm in school for CS and I'm watching this to help me in my Software Engineering class. My, how things come full circle!
Imagine being such a fucking tool that you ASK YOUR BOSS TO IMPLEMENT SCRUM.
But your circle needs to go back to backlog.
MBA's have no sense of humor.
Or they genuinely think what they learned in class is too holy and not funny. Guess what guys, scrum sounds funny.
+imhellag Lol funny, considering MBAs didn't even invent scrum.
Scrum has nothing to with MBA actually. It's a vital part of software engineer. Like Kanban (the one he actually shows) and other agile methodologies
Isn't this Kanban? This isn't scrum or anything related to it HAHAHA
I'm currently studying Scrum and it's pretty good when software looks all messy.
Essential .
Eh that's kanban
"I've got a story..."
isn't that kanban