Circadians Chaos Order - Overview & Review

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  • @BeforeYouPlay
    @BeforeYouPlay  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Please let us know if you have any questions!

    • @LuisJorgeMendoza
      @LuisJorgeMendoza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How assymetric is it?
      Is it like Root with different mechanisms of scoring points for each faction?
      Is it like Chaos in the Old World where there are different mechanisms of scoring points + different win conditions + completely different powers and units?
      Or is it only variable main powers, and the rest of the game is basically the same like Ankh or Rising Sun?
      I have yet to find a game that rivals CotOW, assymetry is a key word that makes me take a closer look at a game.
      edit: found it on TTS, peaked my interest! Seems my cup of tea!

    • @sammacdonald337
      @sammacdonald337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LuisJorgeMendoza Every faction has: different ways of scoring points (and thus winning the game), different Leaders (3 unique hero type figures each), 1 unique type of Building (as well as 2 buildings in common), different attributes (unique powers/rules they break), different boards and unique starting conditions.
      So in that sense, it's probably most like Chaos in the Old World, though I have not played it.
      It's also similar-ish to Root, but each faction takes actions in the exact same way, and they all interact with the core loop (pricing & actions fueled by their research on the tracks) in the same way. Monique's rules overview is GREAT for explaining generally what all factions have in common. Most of the other stuff is unique.

    • @LuisJorgeMendoza
      @LuisJorgeMendoza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sammacdonald337 thanks! Backed it as soon as I saw the TTS mod and saw that playerboards, troops and attributes were different on every player board. Also , great job not overproducing and not putting massive amounts of plastic in it, maintaining an affordable price!

    • @sammacdonald337
      @sammacdonald337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LuisJorgeMendoza Thanks!

    • @beakerkell
      @beakerkell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know this is a pretty old video, but was just wondering if you played this (or First Light) more since this video came out? Thanks!

  • @garphillgames
    @garphillgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Thank you so much for sharing the game! I loved your thoughts and impressions. As you know from my video, I had a very similar experience at first - being frustrated at the die and getting angry at myself or other players. It wasn't until I had a much better grasp on the rules and more importantly, the potential for what other players could achieve in combat, that I really started to fall in love with this game.

    • @victorgonzalez2927
      @victorgonzalez2927 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why no solo?

    • @garphillgames
      @garphillgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@victorgonzalez2927 I'll reply to your other comment below...

  • @TheSecondSeven
    @TheSecondSeven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You're excitement for this game really comes through in this video! Makes me can't wait to play it.

  • @DoppelgangerF02
    @DoppelgangerF02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got my game, this video is suuuuper helpful and love the exception review at the end- super nice, ty!

  • @ronthal
    @ronthal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for this extremely clear overview and as detailed as one can be, about rules and overall gameplay dynamics! Plus being transparent with your thoughts and feelings on the gameplay...
    I have already kickstarted it yesterday so I was sold already on the overall design (after the video by Broken Meeples).
    I want to say as well, as a french speaker, that it's really cool to have a French (and Portuguese) version already included in the crowdfunding process, and publishing companies already involved at that stage, not just the usual "we'll get someone to translate the rules and repackage it for you 18 months after the game is out in English"!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for checking out our video! Agreed it's really great to see publishers provide various languages. Works very well in this game as most things are left to iconography with most of the text being in the rulebook and player faction aids.

  • @Thorg42
    @Thorg42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "This game made Naveen do things he would never do..." I'm gonna be laughing at this for awhile. My copy from the kickstarter showed up yesterday, and my group has experience with Race for the Galaxy, Scythe, Ankh, Catan, etc, so I'm looking forward to adding this to the cycle. Thanks!

    • @Cheddarific
      @Cheddarific 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How has it been for you?

  • @eddyquik
    @eddyquik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Played it tonight! Loved it! Better than Scythe, and I love Scythe.

  • @cruelladevil9022
    @cruelladevil9022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sounds great! I think "kingmaking" depends on your mindset. If everybody always trying to win and don't give up, you will not have this problem in games. Just don't stop trying, even when it is impossible :D. At least in my gaming groups, this is the best way to avoid bad feelings or any "kingmaking".

  • @patricecourteaud9816
    @patricecourteaud9816 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, i 'm French and you speak just perfecty for me to understand ! Thank you

  • @sammacdonald337
    @sammacdonald337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You two are awesome! Thanks again :)

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks Sam, I don't know how you sleep with all these great titles you keep pumping out?!?!

  • @HerrFinsternis
    @HerrFinsternis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1:30 it looks like Gaia project, Empires of the Void and On Mars had a baby 🥰

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL!

    • @sammacdonald337
      @sammacdonald337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Throw some Kemet in there and you're probably spot on :)

  • @OlivierBL
    @OlivierBL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can't wait to play it!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you have a great time with it!!

  • @dzimiz
    @dzimiz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey thanks for overview, is there a chance to see a playthrough of you two?

  • @Thesussysuscat
    @Thesussysuscat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I heard this is like a mix of dune and gia projects

  • @scilla359
    @scilla359 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciated y’all’s thoughts on this game. I feel the same way about super aggressive games! I can have a good time playing but I’m not always feeling it and it usually is not my favorite kind of gaming experience. Very informative review! Helped me feel like I’d jump in on a game of this but not dying to own it. Thank you!

  • @chandramohan5105
    @chandramohan5105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! It is great.. can also be applied to the modern world competitions.

  • @ilqrd.6608
    @ilqrd.6608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish they could have fit this in a small box. I loved that about the first game. Having watched an unboxing I’m not sure why that wasn’t possible

    • @ilneozelandese
      @ilneozelandese 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The board alone doesn't fit in the regular box...

    • @TheHallbjorn
      @TheHallbjorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Having unboxed my copy from Kickstarter recently, this large box is packed with stuff and barely fits as is.

  • @mersitsi
    @mersitsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just realise i need this: I love both root and scythe. Although first i need to play the first light cause i wanna see how this "world" came to war :) Nice review, you guys helped me decide many times. :)

  • @readilium3432
    @readilium3432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did I miss that. Was excited for Circadians...now I am STOKED for both. As a huge Kemet fan, this really revs my engine.

  • @aba824
    @aba824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks! Will there be a gameplay in future? :)

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there, unfortunately not, we feel the game doesn't shine as well at 2-P and the game is quite long to both film and edit.

  • @chriscrothers7649
    @chriscrothers7649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you played first light. How did you feel about that? They are obviously kickstarting together, just curious of your euro gamer opinion on that one.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Chris neither of us have tried it, but it's a game that's been on my (Naveen's) radar since it first came out.

    • @chriscrothers7649
      @chriscrothers7649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BeforeYouPlay fair enough. Yeah is been on my radar for a while too. I think chaos order will tip me over the edge on these two. The idea of pricing actions as either a block or for income is just so interesting.

  • @diogobarros6332
    @diogobarros6332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the sleeve sizes? Can you help me please?

  • @chkingotw
    @chkingotw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since you guys have been making Kickstarter content lately, is there any chance you guys will have your hands on Senjutsu: Battle for Japan any time soon?

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there, no not as of now. We aren't familiar with that title. :/

    • @chkingotw
      @chkingotw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BeforeYouPlay Aw darn. Oh well, keep up the great work guys, love your content.

  • @rekasil
    @rekasil ปีที่แล้ว

    It seems very similar to Cry Havoc but more complex. I would love it - I very prefer the agressive games - but the playing time is too long for my taste.

  • @NightStalker1988
    @NightStalker1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a nice shirt, very Swedish. :D

  • @readilium3432
    @readilium3432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just dropped in to say play Space Station Phoenix!

  • @padenshorey9179
    @padenshorey9179 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did one of you fart at 5:19?

  • @PinguinoProduction
    @PinguinoProduction 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The blocky look of the game makes me thing of Blackout Hong Kong.
    Game looks fun, but KS isn’t offering enough for it to be a great back. Price is fair, but think I’ll check it out in retail instead. Thanks for the review though!:)

  • @DicepairGames
    @DicepairGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven't played it yet, but completely disagree with your die comment. I think the die will allow people being crushed to still have a chance at winning combat. Besides, using the die has a price.
    I've played a lot of games with more deterministic combat and it's kind of boring, to be honest =S.
    Now, I don't really know if I want a game this aggressive which seems to be a long 4/5 player game.

  • @victorgonzalez2927
    @victorgonzalez2927 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No solo?
    So disappointed

    • @garphillgames
      @garphillgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I've answered this in depth a number of times already, so I'll give you the short and sweet answer: The level of depth of meaningful interaction in this game is so high. It's extremely hard to replicate with a bot. Solo modes for Euro games are easy, since most interactions revolve around some aspect of drafting. Every decision in Chaos Order has so many layers and implications. Not to say that we wouldn't be able to create a bot, but if we were, it would take months, if not years to develop. And even then, we're not convinced that it would come close to what it needs to be, in order to provide the same experience as the multiplayer game.

    • @victorgonzalez2927
      @victorgonzalez2927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@garphillgames I just came across this today so I haven’t seen your other statements on it. After watching the full video I get what you’re saying.
      My disappointment comes from the fact I love Circadians. I love your games in general and really want to play this but don’t have a group for it.

    • @garphillgames
      @garphillgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@victorgonzalez2927 Good news then - we have an expansion in the works for Circadians: First Light, that adds new elements and even improves the solo mode.