Well done Shane!! Demonstrating a comprehensive detailed knowledge across numerous dimensions of a very complex health system while being quizzed aggressively Hats off to you
Doesn't have extensive detailed knowledge at all! Completely ignored the funding issues for primary care, policies are not informed by research or advocacy from the clinicians and experts. The internationally qualified nurses us us a doorway to Australia. Nurses' pay - improved by ,abour7, still far to go, plus Australian legislation requires employers to make minimum of 11% employer contributions to superannuation - go figure,
There are not enough doctors! I am one who has moved to Australia, about 20% of NZ grads go to Australia, we don’t pay doctors enough, senior doctors are leaving, and we are so reliant on oversea doctors, but now they go to Australia cause the pay and working conditions are better. About 20-30% of overseas doctors I meet here worked in NZ got there qualification to work in NZ then leave to Aus. You can have all the nurses in the the world but Doctors drive patient care. The health system is crumbing a lot different to when I started as a doctor 15 years ago
Steven I work with lower social economic and no the increase in soft drinks would not make a difference. The cheaper brands that they seem to buy would still be bought if 50c dearer and that leads to less income in the house. It's not that simple. @@growtocycle6992
$115 bn in expected hospital infrastructure needs. What do you expect when successive governments run net immigration rates well beyond what is sustainable.
I’ll admit that compared to the other ministers, he does And let’s face it, tobacco tax was not his it was via the tobacco lobbyists within national and nz first
Oh wow you got him, he can't even say which way it will go. More or less lives, that was a shocker. Great job, he needs to take a long hard look at what he's saying and doing as it appears they don't even know if it'll work at all. I enjoyed this thanks Jack.
That dumb interviewer was asking the guy to predict the future. There's no way of telling whether it'll save more or fewer lives. Same as the previous policies for everything, governments put them in place hoping they will work. Results then tell them (and us) which way to go with things. That interviewer is really up himself.
@@jwbjwb999agree. Just more rubbish persistent questioning on unknowns. Are people really that at the mercy of a law to decide if they will or won’t smoke. They are that passive in their decision making. The harm of smoking is so well known. It’s even literally displayed on the packaging. People will have seen the literal harm done to family or friends. Maybe some people just want to smoke. Is that not their free choice? Not the right choice but could say the exact same thing about alcohol, McDonald’s, KFC or Coca-Cola. The law was just consistent with the dependent mindset that Labour has been pushing on the people of NZ for the past 6 years.
Totally, really enjoyed him getting grilled by jack! Anti abortion, for conversion therapy f**kwit reti is, surprised he has a medical license at all with those attitudes
Shows how much you know. Of course they can predict things, how you do think decisions are made? Modelling is what they should do but if they don't know the numbers then they haven't bothered to do the work that should be done before they make policies@@jwbjwb999
Where have you been Lest to forget Huge Mess John Key era National Created Nilch progress in Healthcare for us Action on what's said is shameful National & Labor It's All Business $$$$ just talk
First and foremost, kapai Jack Tame. Enjoyed your interviewing style, thank you for keeping the Minister for Health on the back foot. The more you persisted, the more medical jargon came forth. The answers were unrelatable to the everyday person.
There is no point having ED waiting time targets when hospitals are too small with not enough staff. You can't move patients if there is no where to move them to. If we had more GPs it would help eliminate ED times as well. And rest homes who have (laughable) hospital level care should be more accountable for actually looking after their patients instead of palming them off to EDs
What’s the penalty for not meeting these targets? Who pays - the public, already stretched health providers? How will that achieve anything? More resource needs to be allocated and more focus on fundamental primary health care such as access to GPs.
"What is achievable"??? You make important things achievable! Apart from that competent and knowledgeable and informative. Need those details when they are decided.
We’re committing to continue to drive down smoking rates. How? Well Jack we are committed to it. Man! Who in the real world gets away with serving this shite up to their boss for an excuse of not getting something done? This guy has zero accountability
Don’t ever think that I am educated man in my family . My education level is A/L Which means I failed university entrance exams . My mother said you 2nd chance . I ignored & left the island My first foreign land & winter experience was in Moscow from there I travelled all Eastern Europe & west
@@greggiles7309 Nah Nah The vacation saved thousands remember? We've been told NZ did the best in the world so you can't use that bullshit excuse.. labour was passing bill's in the middle of the night.
Jack is so biased. Cutting off the guest and raising his voice when he doesn't get an answer that suits his world view. An interview is an exchange of information, Jack, not an aggressive confrontation.
He is asking questions that need to be asked otherwise nothing will be explained except oh its alright work force blah blah move on next question stressing him out principles blah blah capture words to fool the simple
Nope. Began with John Key government hocking off state housing. Before that the Cullen fund had saved 18 billion back in 2008, which was a labour government. Covid, terrorist stacks, uplifting living standards multiple natural disasters all contributed
Then you and all your mates should give all the money back you got for staying home safe in a lockdown, any financial medical assistance for rats testing etc . Everyone loves to take all the freebies and then blames the government at the time who kept the country afloat without wealthy bribes or selling out to foreign interests.
6 years of Labour this country money wise is in a shocking way , and don't go comparing it to other countries we a lot smaller then them . NZ healthcare has always been shit .
New Zealand healthcare is among the best in the world, and it's mostly free. At the moment it's bogged down and queues are longer. Note that nobody (not even the rude interviewer) is complaining about the services, only the length of time to get them. Come to the U.S.A. and see what you think. You'll see NZ in a different light then.
@@jwbjwb999jack (the interviewer) is good, he's the only one grilling the politicians about what they say, Shane Reti is anti abortion and pro conversion therapy, shouldn't have a licence at all.
HERE WE GO AGAIN - JACK TAME IS AN APPALLING INTERVIEWER - STOP TALKING OVER THE INTERVIEWEE - GIVE THE GUY THE CHANCE TO SHARE HIS INFORMATION - RATHER THAN WHAT YOU WANT TO ASK THE GOTCHA QUESTIONS. I am sorry, but Mr. Tame, leave, resign, go away. You are NOT appreciated.
@@shweeb That interviewer was asking the chap to predict the future. Even with modelling, nobody knows the results of any policy that has so many factors affecting it. It was a stupid question at the start, and the guy rightfully didn't answer because there isn't an answer until x amount of time in the future.
@@shweebdid Saint Jacinda ever get an interview from Jack with that tone? Did the early inept health minister Andrew Little ever get an interview with that tone? At least Shane Reti came across well I thought in how he answered. How do you even fix the almost unfixable mess of years and years of neglect? It’s certainly not in your first 4 months. And probably won’t be in the next 3 years.
It's such a shame.. he's a brilliant minister for health, he's well researched and invested in the health outcomes for our country. but he freely admitted (without implicitly stating) that he disagreed with scraping the smokefree legislation but was outvoted by his caucus.. So now he has to tow the party line.
A lot of talks and discussions talk talk talk and no action never mind targets and talking, we have under investment under funding of hospital infrastructure, undersized hospitals for the population they serve, underpaid and over worked staff in all sectors of health care on the work front, overpaid mouths at the top making stupid structure changes that don't do anything, overseas countries offer better incentives to go work there. Waiting room wait times, busy GP centres, low immunization numbers, poor health care are all a result and we are all going to suffer because of it.
Why wouldn't you go to Australia...we need to stop thinking NZ is this slice of heaven that's better than Aussie....it's not I've lived and worked in both and trust me nz is a beautiful place with lovely people but unfortunately that doesn't feed you or put a roof over your head .... Australia pays so much more money than NZ and it's the driving reason for this exodus...it will always be that way because Australia has an economy 20x the size of NZ and much more resources to sell to the world eg mining and so on. I love NZ but it's time to face the facts NZ can and will never attract more people than Aus. It's like Coca cola vs Pepsi you know which ones bigger some people just don't wanna admit it.
Australia has not cut access to its resources as Nz has. Govt policies under labour stopped NZ accessing resources that would have increased our sovereign wealth, giving more money to assist our health needs.
The focus has to be on directing resources when not meeting targets, rather than penalties if you don't meet the targets.
Well done Shane!!
Demonstrating a comprehensive detailed knowledge across numerous dimensions of a very complex health system while being quizzed aggressively
Hats off to you
You must have been watching a different video from me
An MP who wants to save your life with hand, while killing you off with the other..Your an absolute disgrace as a Minister..
Doesn't have extensive detailed knowledge at all! Completely ignored the funding issues for primary care, policies are not informed by research or advocacy from the clinicians and experts. The internationally qualified nurses us us a doorway to Australia. Nurses' pay - improved by ,abour7, still far to go, plus Australian legislation requires employers to make minimum of 11% employer contributions to superannuation - go figure,
There are not enough doctors! I am one who has moved to Australia, about 20% of NZ grads go to Australia, we don’t pay doctors enough, senior doctors are leaving, and we are so reliant on oversea doctors, but now they go to Australia cause the pay and working conditions are better. About 20-30% of overseas doctors I meet here worked in NZ got there qualification to work in NZ then leave to Aus. You can have all the nurses in the the world but Doctors drive patient care. The health system is crumbing a lot different to when I started as a doctor 15 years ago
Would a target have convinced you to stay...
tax sugar , including sugar used in food production , at 2x the smoke tax . watch the need for health care go away
Armed robberies through the roof not a good idea
Sugar tax is not straight forward... Tax yogurt? What about orange juice?
Is butter healthy? Vegetable oil???
Steven I work with lower social economic and no the increase in soft drinks would not make a difference. The cheaper brands that they seem to buy would still be bought if 50c dearer and that leads to less income in the house. It's not that simple. @@growtocycle6992
Processed vegetable oils are far worse than sugar.
$115 bn in expected hospital infrastructure needs. What do you expect when successive governments run net immigration rates well beyond what is sustainable.
Reti is a very fine man. He knows what he talks about. No hesitation, straight answers and on point.
He didnt answer the smoking question.,.. you mustn't have watched it 😂
One thing about this minister is he knows his subject.
lol not! Has no numbers and no information doesn't appear to know anything on his subject.
I’ll admit that compared to the other ministers, he does
And let’s face it, tobacco tax was not his it was via the tobacco lobbyists within national and nz first
@@tommcg7564so it was his, he is part of national, it is on him
wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!! seriously???????????????
Oh wow you got him, he can't even say which way it will go. More or less lives, that was a shocker. Great job, he needs to take a long hard look at what he's saying and doing as it appears they don't even know if it'll work at all. I enjoyed this thanks Jack.
That dumb interviewer was asking the guy to predict the future. There's no way of telling whether it'll save more or fewer lives. Same as the previous policies for everything, governments put them in place hoping they will work. Results then tell them (and us) which way to go with things. That interviewer is really up himself.
@@jwbjwb999agree. Just more rubbish persistent questioning on unknowns.
Are people really that at the mercy of a law to decide if they will or won’t smoke. They are that passive in their decision making. The harm of smoking is so well known. It’s even literally displayed on the packaging. People will have seen the literal harm done to family or friends. Maybe some people just want to smoke. Is that not their free choice? Not the right choice but could say the exact same thing about alcohol, McDonald’s, KFC or Coca-Cola.
The law was just consistent with the dependent mindset that Labour has been pushing on the people of NZ for the past 6 years.
Totally, really enjoyed him getting grilled by jack! Anti abortion, for conversion therapy f**kwit reti is, surprised he has a medical license at all with those attitudes
If there is an earthquake or a major flood... Who is responsible? Another outbreak??
Shows how much you know. Of course they can predict things, how you do think decisions are made? Modelling is what they should do but if they don't know the numbers then they haven't bothered to do the work that should be done before they make policies@@jwbjwb999
Glad to have Dr Shane in charge. He’s got a lot of destruction to fix thanks to the last 6 years.
But the new govt will do it.
Where have you been Lest to forget Huge Mess John Key era National Created Nilch progress in Healthcare for us Action on what's said is shameful National & Labor It's All Business $$$$ just talk
First and foremost, kapai Jack Tame. Enjoyed your interviewing style, thank you for keeping the Minister for Health on the back foot. The more you persisted, the more medical jargon came forth. The answers were unrelatable to the everyday person.
There is no point having ED waiting time targets when hospitals are too small with not enough staff. You can't move patients if there is no where to move them to. If we had more GPs it would help eliminate ED times as well. And rest homes who have (laughable) hospital level care should be more accountable for actually looking after their patients instead of palming them off to EDs
What’s the penalty for not meeting these targets? Who pays - the public, already stretched health providers? How will that achieve anything?
More resource needs to be allocated and more focus on fundamental primary health care such as access to GPs.
Absolutely agree and as a Dr who worked in Primary care he needs to put focus on primary care.
Pretty good time to take a hell of a lot more responsibility for your own health and well-being.
"What is achievable"??? You make important things achievable!
Apart from that competent and knowledgeable and informative. Need those details when they are decided.
Simple target! Every person can get enrolled. Simple target.
Infustructure! He mentioned planning laws. It is about government using tax to build things .
We’re committing to continue to drive down smoking rates.
How?
Well Jack we are committed to it.
Man! Who in the real world gets away with serving this shite up to their boss for an excuse of not getting something done? This guy has zero accountability
A doctor shilling cigarettes. A three-headed taniwha beholden to the vice lobby. Sanity save us all.
Don’t ever think that I am educated man in my family . My education level is A/L
Which means I failed university entrance exams . My mother said you 2nd chance .
I ignored & left the island
My first foreign land & winter experience was in Moscow from there I travelled all Eastern Europe & west
Has the population increase since 2009 affect things alot?
Arguably, aging is a more important factor than immigration..
@@growtocycle6992bullshit immigration is the main factor
Lots of articles about GP. The have chosen the public hospital system. Why! High profile!
Jack does not listen. He asks questions and gets worse if he does not get the answer he wants. It is so frustrating.
Top man 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Hay Jack shouldn't you be asking how the previous government fucked up NZ health care....
Fixing John Key's neglect,
@@greggiles7309 Sure thing 6 years of the left 3 off witch in total control of parliament? fixed nothing fucked everything, I bet your proud...
@@greggiles7309 We'll you can not say they didn't have enough time or the majority to do so...
@@crazyworld7115 Are you serious, COVID happened.
@@greggiles7309 Nah Nah The vacation saved thousands remember? We've been told NZ did the best in the world so you can't use that bullshit excuse.. labour was passing bill's in the middle of the night.
They want smokers tax money,
It BS they are sacking staff, that's not going to cut waiting times.
Jack is so biased. Cutting off the guest and raising his voice when he doesn't get an answer that suits his world view. An interview is an exchange of information, Jack, not an aggressive confrontation.
It's bad enough that he's biased, but on top of that, he's obnoxious as well.
He is asking questions that need to be asked otherwise nothing will be explained except oh its alright work force blah blah move on next question stressing him out principles blah blah capture words to fool the simple
Jack could and should have grilled Shane even more, should have asked about his stance on abortion (anti) and his stance on conversion therapy (pro)
Jack has been grilling politicians on both sides of the aisle. Do you not believe in holding leaders to account?
NOT both sides of aisle..woke government got an easy ride..however times up Jack looks like your biased propagandist days be numbered.
Jack have you forgotten labour have made us broke
Dude, the country’s not broke. You idiots believe all the lies. You don’t even know what being broke means 😂😂😂
No, not me.
Nope. Began with John Key government hocking off state housing. Before that the Cullen fund had saved 18 billion back in 2008, which was a labour government. Covid, terrorist stacks, uplifting living standards multiple natural disasters all contributed
Then you and all your mates should give all the money back you got for staying home safe in a lockdown, any financial medical assistance for rats testing etc .
Everyone loves to take all the freebies and then blames the government at the time who kept the country afloat without wealthy bribes or selling out to foreign interests.
First in first seen unless life threatening, works in scandinavia, you can keep being put down the list with triage.
Drive down! Rents.. will have downward pressure. Now we have drive down...
Well done Shane goodby jack😂😂😂😂
What target is on minister?
Nurse practitioner what ? Your not getting to see a specialist cause they are not coming to NZ and we are leaving
Smooth operator all right uncle,
Te Tangata
Your tolerated not accepted to say what your boss want's passed 😂😂😂
Tobacco lobby far right govt coalition, yuck!
No forces you to smoke.Thats your choice.But blame the government when it becomes a problem.How stupid are people in NZ ?Nanny state.
Funding needs.
Fantastic about the minister endorsement of an aspect of Labour.
Funding! Every citizens should get same funding at a GP office. Total fund of mix should allow time.
6 years of Labour this country money wise is in a shocking way , and don't go comparing it to other countries we a lot smaller then them . NZ healthcare has always been shit .
Been saying It for years, for all the tax money they get and what the tax payer gets back is disgusting
Idiot! Covid was hardly a threat in the country.
New Zealand healthcare is among the best in the world, and it's mostly free. At the moment it's bogged down and queues are longer. Note that nobody (not even the rude interviewer) is complaining about the services, only the length of time to get them. Come to the U.S.A. and see what you think. You'll see NZ in a different light then.
@@jwbjwb999jack (the interviewer) is good, he's the only one grilling the politicians about what they say, Shane Reti is anti abortion and pro conversion therapy, shouldn't have a licence at all.
John Key put on more debt in NZs History, take a seat and shut up.
Ah yes, Shane Cigaretti. Welcome.
HERE WE GO AGAIN - JACK TAME IS AN APPALLING INTERVIEWER - STOP TALKING OVER THE INTERVIEWEE - GIVE THE GUY THE CHANCE TO SHARE HIS INFORMATION - RATHER THAN WHAT YOU WANT TO ASK THE GOTCHA QUESTIONS. I am sorry, but Mr. Tame, leave, resign, go away. You are NOT appreciated.
when someone is clearly trying to avoid the questions its an interviewers job to get them back on the topic at hand, i dont get you people
@@shweeb That interviewer was asking the chap to predict the future. Even with modelling, nobody knows the results of any policy that has so many factors affecting it. It was a stupid question at the start, and the guy rightfully didn't answer because there isn't an answer until x amount of time in the future.
Snowflakes show themselves. ANything they don't like, they want to cancel. What a sad bunch you are - just like the last lot, a bunch of wankers.
@@jwbjwb999reti and his party promised things over the election campaign, if they cannot deliver or change things then they have lied to the people.
@@shweebdid Saint Jacinda ever get an interview from Jack with that tone? Did the early inept health minister Andrew Little ever get an interview with that tone? At least Shane Reti came across well I thought in how he answered.
How do you even fix the almost unfixable mess of years and years of neglect? It’s certainly not in your first 4 months. And probably won’t be in the next 3 years.
As much as pijf Jack tried to puff piece this interview - Dr Shane slapped him with intelligence and fact.
Poor Jack. 😂
It's such a shame.. he's a brilliant minister for health, he's well researched and invested in the health outcomes for our country. but he freely admitted (without implicitly stating) that he disagreed with scraping the smokefree legislation but was outvoted by his caucus.. So now he has to tow the party line.
my lord you are not going to address the waiting times at A&E and gps normal new zealanders are well done coalition supporters you win again
Good by Jack😅
hes so intelligent
very soft interview
I thought the same. Maybe it's Jack one last attempt to save his job?
A lot of talks and discussions talk talk talk and no action never mind targets and talking, we have under investment under funding of hospital infrastructure, undersized hospitals for the population they serve, underpaid and over worked staff in all sectors of health care on the work front, overpaid mouths at the top making stupid structure changes that don't do anything, overseas countries offer better incentives to go work there. Waiting room wait times, busy GP centres, low immunization numbers, poor health care are all a result and we are all going to suffer because of it.
Why wouldn't you go to Australia...we need to stop thinking NZ is this slice of heaven that's better than Aussie....it's not I've lived and worked in both and trust me nz is a beautiful place with lovely people but unfortunately that doesn't feed you or put a roof over your head .... Australia pays so much more money than NZ and it's the driving reason for this exodus...it will always be that way because Australia has an economy 20x the size of NZ and much more resources to sell to the world eg mining and so on. I love NZ but it's time to face the facts NZ can and will never attract more people than Aus. It's like Coca cola vs Pepsi you know which ones bigger some people just don't wanna admit it.
Australia has not cut access to its resources as Nz has. Govt policies under labour stopped NZ accessing resources that would have increased our sovereign wealth, giving more money to assist our health needs.