I have the baby A-S301, and it never ceases to amaze me as to how balanced it is. Everything is exactly where it should be - nothing in the frequency spectrum calls attention to itself. It is a ridiculously good amp, considering the cost.
@@cristovalortega1968 Go with Ascend Acoustics Sierra-1 V2, for $948/pair. They are extremely neutral and accurate. Layered bamboo cabinets, custom spec SEAS drivers, and designed and tested on the $100K Klippel NFS. Build and performance slaughters anything up to $3000/pair. You can step up your game with the Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX, for $1315/pair. Best bookshelf up to $5000/pair. Also designed and tested on the Klippel NFS.
I bought my A-S801 to pair with my Kef LS-50's. The minute I hooked it up to them I was very happy. I had been using a 50 wpc Rotel integrated that I purchased back in the early 1990's and the sound was ok. But the extra power and smoothness in the treble was a great match for the Kefs. The sound was more relaxed, no strain or hardness. For the LS 50s it's a great match. I also have a Cambridge CXC CD transport hooked up to its digital input. Works great.
@@zacharylagler242 Speakers can handle any Amp as long as you don't push them too far. But not every Amp can handle any speaker. Such as speakers that run in the 2 Ohm range.
you are so right about this yamaha amp is a kick ass love it the sound is so powerful I would recommend it for any one who is looking for a good sound in a amp this is the one.
Shawn, as a longtime viewer of your content I want to say that your depth of knowledge is impressive. I've been in and around high-end for decades and you always seem to come up with something that answers a question I've pondered more than once. Very impressive.
I purchased the 801about 2 months ago. I'm new to the stereo world and thought this would make a good entry point for me. I'm running it with the Cambridge Audio CX series transport and network streamer, some older Polk Audio Monitor 10 speakers and I recently added an SVS sub. I've been happy with how this unit brought life back into my Polks. Adding the sub made a huge improvement in giving me a richer, fuller experience. I watched the Audioholics review prior to purchasing it and I think you both presented accurate descriptions of the unit. Thanks for the review.
@@BogdanWeiss lol indeed. My dad was into audio equipment so I grew up appreciating stereos but as an adult, I never purchased any equipment for myself. My source for music has been a Kenwood bookshelf system that I bought in college 20 years ago. This is my first pass at "high end" audio.
@@esk_71 I guess you must have been witness to a fair bit of effort & frustration trying to get the system to sound "decent"... If you're developing an "itch" I have to say that I can't fault any of Troel's designs ( which in itself is a bit of a miracle.. ) www.troelsgravesen.dk/Diy_Loudspeaker_Projects.htm
That upper midrange "hardness" is how live instruments sound. I've not once heard a live instrument that has the syrupy, buttery smoothness one hears in many amps.
If you go by that logic, then everyone would love horn speakers, but most do not. Horn speakers acoustically amplify the strengths and weaknesses of what comes before meaning the tweeter material and characteristic, cables and interconnects material, amplifier noise floor and sound signature etc. Humans are negative aversive and we are a lot happier with decreasing flaws than we are increasing the good stuff, and the flaws are enhanced with horns and the horn itself is a flaw.
Pro tip: do NOT press the 'pure direct' button when you've got the loudness control turned way down. Lesson learned from the A-S700. Fortunately no speakers or eardrums blown when it happened. Just a mild heart attack.
None of these reviewers are talking about the -30db there is when engaging that variable loudness control. Atleast with the switch on the vintage unit, you didn't lose any gain when engaging it. That's my only complaint about this unit. Well, they could have used the aluminum knobs. I would have paid couple hundred more for it. Oh well
If you set the bass and treble to minimum, bring the volume control up higher than you normally listen to, then slowly increase bass and treble dials, the sound will be more intense and punchy than with bass/treble maxed out. My preference is to keep the yamaha loudness control set to maximum clockwise (0 dB, flat). I listen only at high volume.
Finally! A REAL REVIEW ! I have been trying to get an engineers explanation of the Devices ...I wish all reviewers did it this way BIG UPS!! Let me explain. If we know the components we can assess actual value better. This thing is better than outlaw 1050 it’s gotta be NASTY!
Thank you for another great review. I had Yamaha A-S2100 about a year ago. It is built like a tank and puts to shame lots of more expensive electronics, making me question what exactly are we paying for. However based on your description here it is also a less warm sounding amp. The sound was smooth and clear but i didn't perceive midrange warmth, at least not with the speakers i had at the time.
Thanks. The 2100 is a very solid integrated. I have no doubt that Yamaha's aim for neutrality shines through on that unit. Still, the 801's deviation from neutrality helps to give it a lot of charm. :)
You should look at the 701 and 501 as well. There’s a lot of debate online about how the 701 compares to the 801- whether it’s the same amp without the upgraded DAC or whether there are other differences, etc. The 701 seems to get discounted more frequently so it can often be bought for much less than the 801. I’ve seen it for under $600 on Black Friday sales. There’s also the argument that a 701 + an external DAC like a Modi is better than the 801’s internal DAC. And you should look at the 501 because it seems to be the volume leader of the line in terms of sales. It’s the one that Yamaha seems to want most people to buy. It also often gets discounted to $399, etc. so comparing it to similar budget amps might be worthwhile.
I just bought the 801 and I have the Schiit Modi 3 as well. I compared both and I would say that the DAC in the 801 provides superior resolution and detail to the Modi. This is my first serious amp and I love it! My previous amp was an SVS Soundbase and in comparison the SVS somehow seemed slower, (maybe its just that the details seemed muddy), but the Yamaha presents all of the details in the music and then they're gone so that they don't slide over top of the next one. Anyway, I am new to all of this but I am loving the 801
Thanks for the review. Your spot on with the mention of low level listening, I’ve got an 801, and at night I find myself turning it up just slightly to have some life to the music. I run all flat, pure direct on vinyl (excellent phono stage) & CD direct amp on CD, it provides a very detailed sound to my KLH Kendall’s.
@@nathanjones4039 that's the purpose. To give more bass and treble, more sparkle on low listening levels. Rise the volume until it gets exciting/loudish, turn the loudness until it gets comfortable at night. Listen to couple songs, you ear would adjust. It would not be exciting because dynamics are reduced, but it would be more enjoyable for sure. With compressed music that sounds awful at higher volumes... Use it too. You would be surprised. Though my experience is with pre - 90s yamaha gear. No idea if it has changed through the decades.
@@BastianUllr At last someone who knows how to use the loudness control on these amps! I have a 1992 AX-550 and a 2001 AX-596 the loudness still works how you describe, great amps.
I have its junior sibling, the S701; mine does not have network capabilities. I wanted a quality STEREO system, not a home theater or media hub. The S701 is powering a pair of Wharfedale Jade 5 floor standing speakers. All together, fukkin’ awesome! The amp is clean, powerful, and non-frilly with a classic design. My musical tastes are classical and jazz, so transparent neutral sound was what I was after. I haven’t had any problems with mid-range issues with instruments or voices. Best wishes!
Siegfried der Held really the only difference between my 801 and your 701 is the DAC, you’ve got the same amp I do in every respect minus the SABBRE DAC, I haven’t even used it yet, you’ve got to download Yamahas dedicated driver to your computer and all I’ve got on my computer is iTunes, I don’t stream Tidal or anything yet, but nice to have the option. Mines paired with KLH Kendalls, and you’re right clean power!!
I have the S701, also. Great little amp! Have it paired with Focal Chorus 706 speakers in a relatively small room. I've been a yamaha fan since the early 70's. Back then, it was an A1000 IA paired with a T1000 tuner.
The Yamaha A-S1100/2100/3000 series of amps are in another league altogether. They start at $2500 and go clear to $7000. Neither the Iota nor the Marantz can compare as they are not in the same class. You know what’s funny? Every single AB Yamaha stereo amp from $300 up to $7000 is rated at around 80-100 watts per channel. Now, you KNOW that $7000 amp can just destroy every Yamaha amp from $300 to $1000 and yet they are all rated the same! There oughta be a law...
I have to disagree with your assessment of the sound staging, as I have this paired with the KLH Kendall Towers where the music stage extends far beyond the speakers. In fact I would say with the KLH Kendall's, the A-S801 is a perfect match!! Why because the Kendall's get low, very low and clean at 25hz. Thus you get the weight you may have been missing in your set-up. And by the way have you auditioned the KLH Kendall's yet?? At 50lbs a piece, for $1300 a pair, are a steal...seriously...a freaking steal!!! 4 Driver, 3 Way, these speakers are crossed over with the precision of a Samurai!! Get a pair and give a listen, would live to see what you think!!
It’s up to the buyer. What do you want? Someone will buy, some won’t. I’ll be happy in what I have and keep watching and listening for new options. You go Sean
Smooth treble is truly important. Nothing drives the off button faster than a nasty high freq treble. But the 801 has a built-in DAC. Maybe the next lower integrated from Yamaha (I forget the model) has the same features but no dac, which is better because external dacs can be upgraded. A very interesting review would be the IOTA VS the Onkyo A-9110, 'cuz I read the 9110 is fantastic. Old school, but a real gem.
Like alot of previous comments. I have the Yamaha A-S1100 Integrated. It's a serious amplifier! But I recently upgraded to the Modwright KWI 200. Now this amp is on another level! My A-S1100 needs a new home.
Grats on the KWI 200. Dan makes some good stuff. Of course, I'd fully expect it to kick the A-S1100 in the pants given the gigantic differences in price. :D Enjoy the music!
Judging by my experience with the Marantz PM-8004, if the 8006 sounds anything like it, it would actually be paired WELL with bright sounding speakers, as the Marantz is a darker sounding unit and will help counter-act the brightness of those speakers.
I have as301, yes it's laid back ,better than harsh listening fatigue. Oh ,if you connect your cd player to it with qed reference optical ...it springs into life..sounds like an upgrade.
I'd love to see a review of the A-S3000, those big VU look so good, not twice as good as the ones on my A-S2100. Ron at NRD helped sell me on the 2100 over the HINT (after I tried finding a vintage 2010 for $30 at Savers). Fully discrete, symmetrical, floating and balanced with MOSFETs. They're all around 100w, will drive a 2 Ohm load and mine has 88,000uf, for some pretty nice dynamics.
I also don't understand that some manufacturers put a low pass filter on the sub-out when most sub woofers have built-in. It's a waste of resources and potentially causes problem for small speakers. Excellent review as always!👍
The proper way wold be as follows. The filter on the subwoofer is so the subwoofer don't play ABOVE (LF filter) Certain frequency. The filter on the integrated is so the speakers don't play BELOW (HF filter) those frequencies. This is what actually yields proper benefits on using the subwoofer as you would be reliving the speakers to play the lowest octaves, cuausing less distortion and increasing the headroom of the speakers as the wattage to produce mid-bass is lesser than the one required to play full range, thus heating less the transducer. Also, allowing to play higher volumes. In the case of the yamaha... Well... It's only LF... So true, pretty useless. Speakers remain full-range. That's the actual purpose of the filter on the amps. Weird
In the comparisons sections you forgot to mention that Yamaha offers computer connection while the presented competitors simply omitted. And that alone is going to earn many buyers with not too fat wallets (including me). Especially when the sound differences are not that dramatic and those people looking amps in such price range arent definitely purists, audiophiles but everyday ordinary people looking for some affordable but above average good sound enjoyment to fill their places with. The A-S801 targets well its intended customers and with more power sounds like the winner here in that sense simply by offering more :)
You should check out the Yamaha A-S1100 definitely a few steps up from this Yamaha amp, beautiful piece of audio. Love the old school needle VU meters and the sound quality is amazing!
If Yamaha or Adorama Camera is willing to send me the A-S1100, I'd be down to try it. Heck, I may even go for the 3000. The topology that Yammy uses for that one is outstandingly good. :D
Andreas Nielsen oh yeah it’s a freaking awesome amp. It’s not the best amp in the world by any means, and there’s a few models above the A-S1100, but still it’s definitely high end. For me it would be the “end game” to own one and I’d be happy for a very long time if I did. There’s a video on TH-cam of a guy who owns one and running a pair of Klipsch Fortè lll floor standing speakers, which would be a really great combo. I think he upgraded to another high end floor standing Klipsch speaker but I can’t remember which one.
Ron over at New Record Day did a review of the mid-level A-S2100 and was seriously impressed with it. I guess it’s mainly due to the MOS-FET topology. Yamaha has been tinkering with VFETs and MOS-FETs for as long as I remember, and I’m OLD lol th-cam.com/video/7jjAZz7NOK0/w-d-xo.html
You did not mention that the front sides of the marantz are plastic while yamaha from aluminium !! Also the marantz has one heat sink for both channels, while the yamaha has one heat sink per channel!I have A-S701 with wharfedale 225 and iam very happy.Very nice analytic review.
subscribed. nice content on this channel. as a word of advice, maybe you should give more details about aesthetics, feel of the knobs, build quality, materials etc. content on the audio end is perfect !
It would have been interesting to know what kind of “Break In” period you gave this Amp before reviewing it?? Cause it takes about two weeks (of continuous play) before it really starts to perform optimally.
Got an as801 last week,sounds great but no switched 110 outlet on back,no LED in volume knob for night vision of volume level ,buttons on remote neither illuminate or glow, But still a nice unit
I like the traditional look of the Yamaha more than the marantz, still nice looking though. too bad Yamaha didn't redesign their AVR's to look like their 2 channel receivers and amps.
@@awdadwadwad1723 I do like the look of the Sony and onkyo AVR's better though, cambridge makes nice looking stuff , I did like the look of the mid 90's and early 2000's Yamaha that had a japanese look, onkyo tried to copy that look at the same time but they failed lol.
bought the amp and it is playing now for a few weeks and I am very happy with it, honestly very good match with my Klipsch set. Really don't understand some Yamaha haters, it is my first Yamaha but very pleased so far.... thanks for this review... helped me to make this decision
Thank you for the review. I noticed that you mentioned a total of 12000 microfarads. I noticed on the Audioholics website they mentioned 2x12000 microfarads. I thought I'd point it out as I was concerned about buying this amp if the capacitance was so low. I will probably purchase this amp soon. Also, I'd like to say that I like the way you do your reviews because you do each category in the same order each time which makes it easier to compare notes between different reviews.
and - it's readily avail in the far superior silver > PS Yamaha sells a stereo receiver line , looks like the exact same style with the bass /treble controls etc. RN 602 = 80 w / ch. ( no connection to company )
Can't wait for my IOTAVX SA3 to get here Monday. Then I hope I can get the PA3 before the end of the month. I was hoping for it to be here Friday so I could break it in over the weekend but it sat at Customs for 24 hours. I asked the guys at Audioholics if they've tried any of the IOTAVX products and Theo Nicolakis said he hasn't had a sampling of their products yet. I said if he reached out to them, they would most likely send him a review unit. I want to see IOTAVX succeed in a tough market for smaller companies. Audioholics do mostly AVRs so it would be nice to see how their home theater system does. It may be another one of my purchases in the future.
Nailed it. I bought this unit a last Xmas and you described it to a tea. I play mine thorough 20 year old 620 Bowers and Wilken speakers. Sounds great.
Any thoughts on the phono stage performance on this amp? Is it good right out of the amp or would you opt to use a pre-amp? The DAC is great, but I was wondering your thoughts on the phono feature. Update I answered my own question. I discovered that it is "okay"...not that great compared to the performance of the other elements of the amp. I use a pro ject pre amp to bring it up to snuff. Some needle to vinyl contact noise is apparent as it comes, and as it comes...not so special.
Not sure I really agree with your characterization of the "old Yamaha sound" as treble-forward. A lot of those old amps have dried out electrolytics and as such don't sound great. I can hear the difference in the two CA-810s I own, the one that has been recapped and restored has that laid-back sound you're talking about and not even the slightest hint of harshness. The other one (all original components intact) has a definite harsh, grainy vibe on the top end, so much so that I use the high filter on it at all times. The RX-V850 and CX/MX combo (early 90s gear) I also use regularly are even smoother on the top end and a slightly darker sound overall. Good review though! I kinda want to try out one of these now - I really wish the A-S1100 had the variable loudness but that's another discussion I guess.
It shows how naive the reviewer is to be honest. I wouldn’t recommend this channel to anyone. I have a restored Yamaha power amp myself and what it offers is a lot of clean headroom. However the power section in my R-S700 is already good enough for the speakers I use and I never regretted simplifying myself and omitting the power amp.
You're right. They didn't call them "Natural Sound" receivers for nothing. Yamaha makes tons of musical instruments; they know what music is supposed to sound like. But if you weren't listening to the late '70s/early '80s Yamahas when they were new, you wouldn't know that.
3:31 - You bring up a real concern with the unit’s lack of a configurable crossover for the subwoofer output. And in that vein, are there by chance any integrated amplifiers that you might know of that offer a configurable crossover for the subwoofer output?
Is the power on,off button kinda feel loose... or nice and tight..on mine it works,but feels loose....not nice and tight and harder to push in like the new cd-s303 player I just bought... thanks.
I spoke with Gene at Audioholics and he recommended I pair this integrated amp with the Bower's and Wilkins 704s2. I haven't received them in yet however, curious to how they will sound together.
Hi, I was consdering this amplifier for KEF R5 and saw you'd recommend the IOTAVX more. I was Looking at the IOTAVX and would get the SA3 and PA3. If I get the IOTAVX stack, how would I connect my computer to the IOTA? Thank you
@@al201103 My impressions with Pure Direct on are that it's super clean, clear, powerful and exciting. Almost night and day from the laid-back sound without it. It's like 2 different amps. Check out this review for more in depth description: www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/yamaha/1.html
@@leemazur870 I wasn't even looking for stereo gear when I visited a friend who owns a stereo shop. During that visit Zeppelin started playing.....Roy asked you like what your hearing? The sound quality reminded me of Counterpoint gear I still have today. He demonstrated the set up A-S801 with RP8000F Klipsch speakers the source was thru the DAC and Yamaha CD Player. I purchased both the AS801 as well as the Klipsch speakers. I use this system in my guest house and find myself spending a lot of time enjoying this system. The pure direct is always depressed and while a CD is in use the CD direct is on. Btw there is a weeks long break in period on this Amp. Once past this the Yamaha is smooth and accurate.
I had the s1000 and s2000 amp and cd players I find they sound big but boring uninvoling but well built the Caspian m2 amp for a bit more money over the s2000 amp sounds. a lot better and I still have it .
I got the Yamaha R-N803 and paired it with my B&W CM6 S2 bookshelves + Martin Logan Dynamo 300 subwoofer. Great sound all around. Tried all genres, many recordings and they all sound beautiful. No complaints. How do you find out which frequencies the Bass and Treble affect? Thanks! The Yamaha 2 channel receivers get my thumbs up.
Thanks for the review. Will the AS801 pair will with the Linton Heritage ? And if there is a more recent Yamaha that is a better match, which would that be.
Hello, if you connect this Yamaha to the TV by toslink and you play Tidal on your TV will you use this DAC that is used when you connect your computer with usb cable ? Will Tidal played from your TV same quality as played from computer? Thanks
Very good amigo! Thanks to Adorama for sending you that one to be review, now I think we are getting close to one of the top line of Yamaha AS family: A-S1100, A-S2100 I wish they could send you those too, peace!
Tnx Tnx. I was looking for a 701 Yamaha because of the sub out. You are the first make clear that is it fixed. I have the 700 without a sub out on it. I'm a big fan of having a subwoofer with mij B&W 805 d2 's. This review saves me money 🥳 On my 700 I made a "by-pass" speakers out to a the sub. this works fine. My question is, which (good) audio-brand does have this variable sub out and also the separate treble bass? ..
On an integrated receiver with a sub out such as this (not an LFE out), even though they have set an internal Crossover at 90 Hz, can you still manually adjust the knob on an external subwoofer's built-in crossover at 90 hz and down? (Just not above 90 hz)
Thanks for the excellent review, your input helped me to purchase the 801, one of the main reasons I chose it was to run my 4 ohm speakers, but the info on Impedance Selector switch in the manual has me really confused, I would like to run two pairs of speakers, can I run two pairs of 4 ohm speakers with this amp?
great video I have a question what do you think would be a suitable upgrade in sound quality from this receiver if I wanted something a little bit more fun dynamic and hear every bit of detail maybe slightly forward but not too far off from the sound of Yamaha what would you recommend? How about the s 2100 I know that has a bit lower watts per Channel
How does Yammy fare with a Klipsch speakers? Mine are Heresy IIIs now run on a DIY SE tube amp 10Wpc. If I think of changing I get Yamaha, Marantz and Denon easily in my local stores than other brands. And Yammys have variable Loudness control which is a big advantage. Had a mid level AX -496 earlier.
I am in doubt about either the A-S701 new or a used Denon PMA-1510AE. Will be mostly used for Vynil, any comments on the phono stage? I have a pair or Dali Zensor 5 and a Pro-ject turntable without pre-amp
I want to build a HiFi system mostly for music with an integrated amplifier..but I also want a Home Theater... will I still have to get an A/V receiver so I can connect TV and the other speakers or is there another way around this? And when it comes to Integrated Amps.... Marantz or Yamaha?
patrick edouard you cant still connect to tv without hdmi, you would likely just be using optical audio which means you will need to switch input on the tv and amp
Great looking machine! I am a little bit of a Yamaha freak. As I am watching this video, I have my Yamaha CD-S300 playing Rush Moving Pictures. Powered by my Yamaha RX-V685 receiver. Love that front panel, nice clean look. Great rear panel layout, plenty of inputs. Thanks for the under the hood look. Awesome review as usual, Thank You man!
Hi-Fi Haven glad to know I’m not the only Yamaha fan boy here!! I’ve got the A-S801, CD-S300 as well, excellent player, love the usb jack on the front, I’ve got an R-N500 stereo receiver and I’ve had a couple Yamaha AVR’s in the past. Great Rush album, what speakers you running?
@@hi-fihaven2257 I have the Yamaha A-S801, A-S2100, WXA-50 amp, Yamaha NS-F901 Soavo speakers, Yamaha AV10sg violin, 1978 FG-300 acoustic, RSP20CR electric guitar and a 2010 Yamaha VMAX motorcycle. The wife has a Yamaha U3 Piano and a 2015 X-Max 400 she uses to get to work. I am on the look for a Yamaha keyboard for one of the kids. You think you're a fan boy?
Good review I bought the yammy 801 about 2 years ago wasn't to happy with it maybe it was me but my 2010 yammy ax497 integrated sounds better to me it's all pure analog I use my own dacs but i took the 801 back for refund then i eventually bought the Pioneer Elite SX-N30 that was 799.00 new and 100 bucks cheaper than the 801 next up would be the as1100 all analog and i think 3k
There are tons of variables that influence what you take away from an experience. Sorry the 801 didn't work out for you. Sounds like you've had some other units that make you happy.
Zero Fidelity Yeah Sean I saved up for almost 3 months to buy the as-801 I been closed minded the last ten years only buying Yamaha integrated amps and Recievers I still have 3 I use for testing speakers for reviews, but soon as I heard the yammy 801 I started my quest on utube for reviewers of honesty on audio hifi thank goodness I found you Thomas ,Darko, and many others but you 3 I trust and thanks again Sean for all your hard work I've learned a lot from your reviews you got me back on the right track
Good review. I’ve been looking at the Yamaha AS 1100 stereo amp not sure of the model number it has VU meters. This is a couple hundred less. I wish the AS1100 was available in silver. My stereo listening room is typically very low lighting. I can barely see the controls. The silver would be far better.
The AS1100 is where Yamaha starts to get serious. You get a big transformer. The filter cap bank is more than doubled in size. The input stage is a lot beefier. And of course, you get those VU meters.. :D I have no doubt that the A1100 is an objectively better performer. The question is if it can offer the better performance without losing the easy-going charm of the AS801.
Zero Fidelity Thanks for your opinion on the Yamaha AS1100. Pretty sure that will be my choice. I am in process of moving, and plan to wait till that big job is complete before getting the unit. It is fun learning though.
The A-S1100 is indeed available in silver: www.amazon.com/Yamaha-S1100SL-Channel-Integrated-Amplifier/dp/B0105JWDPU/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=A-s1100&qid=1560161559&s=gateway&sr=8-1
I have the receiver version of the 801 (same power plant) in the N803. I’m going to do some experiments vis a vis the subwoofer out. I am dead sure that it’s not a fixed output as I am driving two SVS subs from it. It’s indeed variable. I know that the spec sheet says something about a fixed 92 Hz crossover, but I don’t know. I’m going to kill the speakers, turn up the sub crossover frequency and use a tone generator to see if I can get 120-150 Hz from that jack. I’ll follow up here when I sort it out.
It's a low pass filter that's set to around 100Hz (or 90Hz, depending on which part of the manual that you read). According to Audioholics, if you cross a sub at least 20Hz below this point, you shouldn't run into any integration issues.
If you look at the spec sheet in their respective manuals, they both mention a subwoofer cutoff frequency (90 Hz for the receiver and 100 for the amp). This has always stumped me. Yes - the receiver has YPAO, which is too horrible for words for me. I’ll set it up, it seems to be ok and then it just suddenly decides to not use my subs. It’s just awful. They can keep that nonsense. I just may decide to upgrade to the A-S1100 and buy a Bluesound Node 2i. You can get some pretty good deals on the 1100 via Amazon returns
Another interesting fact about the N803 (which also specifies a cutoff frequency for the sub) is that the YPAO DSP feature allows for adjusting the sub crossover to as high as 200 Hz. Now, what the hell? Which is it? Does the YPAO feature allow you to defeat the low pass filter? Unfortunately, the Yamaha literature is inscrutable and the company can’t be bothered to reply to queries about these products.
I have the baby A-S301, and it never ceases to amaze me as to how balanced it is. Everything is exactly where it should be - nothing in the frequency spectrum calls attention to itself. It is a ridiculously good amp, considering the cost.
What are some good speakers to pair this amp with? And whats a good size? How big /powerful can the speakers be?
@@cristovalortega1968 Go with Ascend Acoustics Sierra-1 V2, for $948/pair. They are extremely neutral and accurate. Layered bamboo cabinets, custom spec SEAS drivers, and designed and tested on the $100K Klippel NFS. Build and performance slaughters anything up to $3000/pair. You can step up your game with the Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX, for $1315/pair. Best bookshelf up to $5000/pair. Also designed and tested on the Klippel NFS.
I bought my A-S801 to pair with my Kef LS-50's. The minute I hooked it up to them I was very happy. I had been using a 50 wpc Rotel integrated that I purchased back in the early 1990's and the sound was ok. But the extra power and smoothness in the treble was a great match for the Kefs. The sound was more relaxed, no strain or hardness. For the LS 50s it's a great match. I also have a Cambridge CXC CD transport hooked up to its digital input. Works great.
Will my Kef q150's be able to handle this Amp?
@@zacharylagler242 yes
@@zacharylagler242 Speakers can handle any Amp as long as you don't push them too far.
But not every Amp can handle any speaker. Such as speakers that run in the 2 Ohm range.
I have this unit , for few years , Yamaha 801 , brilliant sounding piece, everything is right with it , strongly recommend
you are so right about this yamaha amp is a kick ass love it the sound is so powerful I would recommend it for any one who is looking for a good sound in a amp this is the one.
I have this and the older RX797... the loudness control is a game changer! Love them
Shawn, as a longtime viewer of your content I want to say that your depth of knowledge is impressive. I've been in and around high-end for decades and you always seem to come up with something that answers a question I've pondered more than once. Very impressive.
I purchased the 801about 2 months ago. I'm new to the stereo world and thought this would make a good entry point for me. I'm running it with the Cambridge Audio CX series transport and network streamer, some older Polk Audio Monitor 10 speakers and I recently added an SVS sub. I've been happy with how this unit brought life back into my Polks. Adding the sub made a huge improvement in giving me a richer, fuller experience. I watched the Audioholics review prior to purchasing it and I think you both presented accurate descriptions of the unit. Thanks for the review.
Enjoy the 801 Eric! I had a set of Monitor 10's from back in the day. I have no doubt that your system bangs out some sweet sounding tunes!
@@ZeroFidelity Yeah, I'm cool for now but I do intend to upgrade the speakers next.
when you say "new to the stereo world" it almost sounds like you just grew a set of new ears !!! :-)
@@BogdanWeiss lol indeed. My dad was into audio equipment so I grew up appreciating stereos but as an adult, I never purchased any equipment for myself. My source for music has been a Kenwood bookshelf system that I bought in college 20 years ago. This is my first pass at "high end" audio.
@@esk_71 I guess you must have been witness to a fair bit of effort & frustration trying to get the system to sound "decent"... If you're developing an "itch" I have to say that I can't fault any of Troel's designs ( which in itself is a bit of a miracle.. ) www.troelsgravesen.dk/Diy_Loudspeaker_Projects.htm
That upper midrange "hardness" is how live instruments sound. I've not once heard a live instrument that has the syrupy, buttery smoothness one hears in many amps.
that is why high end stuff is sometimes better than live. Becouse it smoothens some parts which sounds better.
If you go by that logic, then everyone would love horn speakers, but most do not. Horn speakers acoustically amplify the strengths and weaknesses of what comes before meaning the tweeter material and characteristic, cables and interconnects material, amplifier noise floor and sound signature etc. Humans are negative aversive and we are a lot happier with decreasing flaws than we are increasing the good stuff, and the flaws are enhanced with horns and the horn itself is a flaw.
Pro tip: do NOT press the 'pure direct' button when you've got the loudness control turned way down. Lesson learned from the A-S700. Fortunately no speakers or eardrums blown when it happened. Just a mild heart attack.
None of these reviewers are talking about the -30db there is when engaging that variable loudness control. Atleast with the switch on the vintage unit, you didn't lose any gain when engaging it. That's my only complaint about this unit. Well, they could have used the aluminum knobs. I would have paid couple hundred more for it. Oh well
Can you please review the Yamaha R N803? I'm wondering how it compares to the 801.
Thanks Sean, Thanks Adorama, great review. Big help to my as I was just looking to buy the A-S801.
If you set the bass and treble to minimum, bring the volume control up higher than you normally listen to, then slowly increase bass and treble dials, the sound will be more intense and punchy than with bass/treble maxed out. My preference is to keep the yamaha loudness control set to maximum clockwise (0 dB, flat). I listen only at high volume.
Finally! A REAL REVIEW ! I have been trying to get an engineers explanation of the Devices ...I wish all reviewers did it this way BIG UPS!!
Let me explain. If we know the components we can assess actual value better. This thing is better than outlaw 1050 it’s gotta be NASTY!
Great review, although I think the Yamaha deserves WAY more credit overall..such a tough review
Thank you for another great review. I had Yamaha A-S2100 about a year ago. It is built like a tank and puts to shame lots of more expensive electronics, making me question what exactly are we paying for. However based on your description here it is also a less warm sounding amp. The sound was smooth and clear but i didn't perceive midrange warmth, at least not with the speakers i had at the time.
Thanks. The 2100 is a very solid integrated. I have no doubt that Yamaha's aim for neutrality shines through on that unit. Still, the 801's deviation from neutrality helps to give it a lot of charm. :)
So which one is better ?
this amp started my hifi adventure
thank god we have channels like you and tharbamar 🙏
You should look at the 701 and 501 as well. There’s a lot of debate online about how the 701 compares to the 801- whether it’s the same amp without the upgraded DAC or whether there are other differences, etc. The 701 seems to get discounted more frequently so it can often be bought for much less than the 801. I’ve seen it for under $600 on Black Friday sales. There’s also the argument that a 701 + an external DAC like a Modi is better than the 801’s internal DAC. And you should look at the 501 because it seems to be the volume leader of the line in terms of sales. It’s the one that Yamaha seems to want most people to buy. It also often gets discounted to $399, etc. so comparing it to similar budget amps might be worthwhile.
I just bought the 801 and I have the Schiit Modi 3 as well. I compared both and I would say that the DAC in the 801 provides superior resolution and detail to the Modi. This is my first serious amp and I love it! My previous amp was an SVS Soundbase and in comparison the SVS somehow seemed slower, (maybe its just that the details seemed muddy), but the Yamaha presents all of the details in the music and then they're gone so that they don't slide over top of the next one. Anyway, I am new to all of this but I am loving the 801
@@McBeakerson huh, I didn’t know that
I have had mine since 2016, thank you for the 4ohm spec, 185 watts is very impressive. I am powering Cerwin Vega RE-38's with 15' Inch subwoofers
"nearly half a decade"... so about 4 years
Thanks for the review. Your spot on with the mention of low level listening, I’ve got an 801, and at night I find myself turning it up just slightly to have some life to the music. I run all flat, pure direct on vinyl (excellent phono stage) & CD direct amp on CD, it provides a very detailed sound to my KLH Kendall’s.
Have you tried loudness control?
No, I’ve never used it.
@@nathanjones4039 that's the purpose. To give more bass and treble, more sparkle on low listening levels. Rise the volume until it gets exciting/loudish, turn the loudness until it gets comfortable at night. Listen to couple songs, you ear would adjust. It would not be exciting because dynamics are reduced, but it would be more enjoyable for sure.
With compressed music that sounds awful at higher volumes... Use it too. You would be surprised.
Though my experience is with pre - 90s yamaha gear. No idea if it has changed through the decades.
@@BastianUllr At last someone who knows how to use the loudness control on these amps!
I have a 1992 AX-550 and a 2001 AX-596 the loudness still works how you describe, great amps.
Definately get a phono stage, rega mk3 or schiit mani. And wow yourself!
I have its junior sibling, the S701; mine does not have network capabilities. I wanted a quality STEREO system, not a home theater or media hub. The S701 is powering a pair of Wharfedale Jade 5 floor standing speakers. All together, fukkin’ awesome! The amp is clean, powerful, and non-frilly with a classic design. My musical tastes are classical and jazz, so transparent neutral sound was what I was after. I haven’t had any problems with mid-range issues with instruments or voices. Best wishes!
Siegfried der Held really the only difference between my 801 and your 701 is the DAC, you’ve got the same amp I do in every respect minus the SABBRE DAC, I haven’t even used it yet, you’ve got to download Yamahas dedicated driver to your computer and all I’ve got on my computer is iTunes, I don’t stream Tidal or anything yet, but nice to have the option. Mines paired with KLH Kendalls, and you’re right clean power!!
I have the S701, also. Great little amp! Have it paired with Focal Chorus 706 speakers in a relatively small room. I've been a yamaha fan since the early 70's. Back then, it was an A1000 IA paired with a T1000 tuner.
Yamaha builts exceptional amps. I have the AS-1100 and love it.
yes i had a 801 then jumped up to the as1100 and love that one even more
The Yamaha A-S1100/2100/3000 series of amps are in another league altogether. They start at $2500 and go clear to $7000. Neither the Iota nor the Marantz can compare as they are not in the same class.
You know what’s funny? Every single AB Yamaha stereo amp from $300 up to $7000 is rated at around 80-100 watts per channel. Now, you KNOW that $7000 amp can just destroy every Yamaha amp from $300 to $1000 and yet they are all rated the same! There oughta be a law...
Very cool. Glad you're diggin on the 1100!
Does the AS-1100 also have an amber power light? Is yours black or silver?
@@michaelphillippi4676 From what I can tell, the power light is the same as the 801s. Mine is black. I'll upload a video in the next few days.
Thanks for the comparisons at the end :)
I have to disagree with your assessment of the sound staging, as I have this paired with the KLH Kendall Towers where the music stage extends far beyond the speakers. In fact I would say with the KLH Kendall's, the A-S801 is a perfect match!! Why because the Kendall's get low, very low and clean at 25hz. Thus you get the weight you may have been missing in your set-up. And by the way have you auditioned the KLH Kendall's yet?? At 50lbs a piece, for $1300 a pair, are a steal...seriously...a freaking steal!!! 4 Driver, 3 Way, these speakers are crossed over with the precision of a Samurai!! Get a pair and give a listen, would live to see what you think!!
It’s up to the buyer. What do you want? Someone will buy, some won’t. I’ll be happy in what I have and keep watching and listening for new options. You go Sean
Smooth treble is truly important. Nothing drives the off button faster than a nasty high freq treble. But the 801 has a built-in DAC. Maybe the next lower integrated from Yamaha (I forget the model) has the same features but no dac, which is better because external dacs can be upgraded. A very interesting review would be the IOTA VS the Onkyo A-9110, 'cuz I read the 9110 is fantastic. Old school, but a real gem.
A-S 1100 has no DAC.
Like alot of previous comments. I have the Yamaha A-S1100 Integrated. It's a serious amplifier! But I recently upgraded to the Modwright KWI 200. Now this amp is on another level! My A-S1100 needs a new home.
Grats on the KWI 200. Dan makes some good stuff. Of course, I'd fully expect it to kick the A-S1100 in the pants given the gigantic differences in price. :D Enjoy the music!
Sean, you have been killing it lately with the number of reviews. I appreciate your work ethic.
Thanks man.
What else does he have to do ?
Judging by my experience with the Marantz PM-8004, if the 8006 sounds anything like it, it would actually be paired WELL with bright sounding speakers, as the Marantz is a darker sounding unit and will help counter-act the brightness of those speakers.
I have as301, yes it's laid back ,better than harsh listening fatigue. Oh ,if you connect your cd player to it with qed reference optical ...it springs into life..sounds like an upgrade.
I have A-S1100, great amp, powerfull sound, tight bass, I love it.
Faisal Kadal
Much better than this one
Did you ever have the A-S801? Thinking of upgrading
I'd love to see a review of the A-S3000, those big VU look so good, not twice as good as the ones on my A-S2100. Ron at NRD helped sell me on the 2100 over the HINT (after I tried finding a vintage 2010 for $30 at Savers). Fully discrete, symmetrical, floating and balanced with MOSFETs. They're all around 100w, will drive a 2 Ohm load and mine has 88,000uf, for some pretty nice dynamics.
I would love to bring in the A-S3000. Gratz on the 2100!
Thank you for the review!
I also don't understand that some manufacturers put a low pass filter on the sub-out when most sub woofers have built-in. It's a waste of resources and potentially causes problem for small speakers.
Excellent review as always!👍
The proper way wold be as follows. The filter on the subwoofer is so the subwoofer don't play ABOVE (LF filter) Certain frequency. The filter on the integrated is so the speakers don't play BELOW (HF filter) those frequencies. This is what actually yields proper benefits on using the subwoofer as you would be reliving the speakers to play the lowest octaves, cuausing less distortion and increasing the headroom of the speakers as the wattage to produce mid-bass is lesser than the one required to play full range, thus heating less the transducer. Also, allowing to play higher volumes.
In the case of the yamaha... Well... It's only LF... So true, pretty useless. Speakers remain full-range.
That's the actual purpose of the filter on the amps. Weird
Good review! Love the look
I have it and love it.... 100% agree with your opinion. Thank you
In the comparisons sections you forgot to mention that Yamaha offers computer connection while the presented competitors simply omitted. And that alone is going to earn many buyers with not too fat wallets (including me). Especially when the sound differences are not that dramatic and those people looking amps in such price range arent definitely purists, audiophiles but everyday ordinary people looking for some affordable but above average good sound enjoyment to fill their places with. The A-S801 targets well its intended customers and with more power sounds like the winner here in that sense simply by offering more :)
This Yamaha compared to the denon pma-800ne you reviewed earlier this year?
You should check out the Yamaha A-S1100 definitely a few steps up from this Yamaha amp, beautiful piece of audio. Love the old school needle VU meters and the sound quality is amazing!
If Yamaha or Adorama Camera is willing to send me the A-S1100, I'd be down to try it. Heck, I may even go for the 3000. The topology that Yammy uses for that one is outstandingly good. :D
@@ZeroFidelity please do! I wonder actually if the 3000 actually stands its own against Luxman. That'd be very interesting!
I could not agree more, the 1100 is such a great amp. And the phono is awesome!
Andreas Nielsen oh yeah it’s a freaking awesome amp. It’s not the best amp in the world by any means, and there’s a few models above the A-S1100, but still it’s definitely high end. For me it would be the “end game” to own one and I’d be happy for a very long time if I did. There’s a video on TH-cam of a guy who owns one and running a pair of Klipsch Fortè lll floor standing speakers, which would be a really great combo. I think he upgraded to another high end floor standing Klipsch speaker but I can’t remember which one.
Ron over at New Record Day did a review of the mid-level A-S2100 and was seriously impressed with it. I guess it’s mainly due to the MOS-FET topology. Yamaha has been tinkering with VFETs and MOS-FETs for as long as I remember, and I’m OLD lol
th-cam.com/video/7jjAZz7NOK0/w-d-xo.html
You did not mention that the front sides of the marantz are plastic while yamaha from aluminium !! Also the marantz has one heat sink for both channels, while the yamaha has one heat sink per channel!I have A-S701 with wharfedale 225 and iam very happy.Very nice analytic review.
subscribed. nice content on this channel. as a word of advice, maybe you should give more details about aesthetics, feel of the knobs, build quality, materials etc. content on the audio end is perfect !
This amp is on sale for $650 on Amazon! Can’t wait till it comes in.
It would have been interesting to know what kind of “Break In” period you gave this Amp before reviewing it?? Cause it takes about two weeks (of continuous play) before it really starts to perform optimally.
Got an as801 last week,sounds great but no switched 110 outlet on back,no LED in volume knob for night vision of volume level ,buttons on remote neither illuminate or glow,
But still a nice unit
Thanks for doing these reviews I really do enjoy them.
Can you get an A-S1100 in?! That be sweet cheers from UK
Half a decade ??!!
Jeez in another year that will almost be 6 years !!
I like the traditional look of the Yamaha more than the marantz, still nice looking though. too bad Yamaha didn't redesign their AVR's to look like their 2 channel receivers and amps.
I too prefer the vintage Yammy aesthetic. It's a clean look. Especially in silver.
Becouse it is very different market and they wouldn't sell.
@@awdadwadwad1723 I do like the look of the Sony and onkyo AVR's better though, cambridge makes nice looking stuff , I did like the look of the mid 90's and early 2000's Yamaha that had a japanese look, onkyo tried to copy that look at the same time but they failed lol.
bought the amp and it is playing now for a few weeks and I am very happy with it, honestly very good match with my Klipsch set. Really don't understand some Yamaha haters, it is my first Yamaha but very pleased so far.... thanks for this review... helped me to make this decision
Erik B. I just ordered this amp to pair with Klipsch as well. Which Klipsch do you have?
@@freedomdance7601 i have a pair of rb81's and as a sub the rw12d... sounds great to my taste...
I have a pair of RB81's and for subwoofer I use the RW12D, perfectly happy with this set, which Klipsch do you use ?
Erik B. Just ordered a set of rp8000f!!
I am sure you will also be a happy listener :-)
Thank you for the review. I noticed that you mentioned a total of 12000 microfarads. I noticed on the Audioholics website they mentioned 2x12000 microfarads. I thought I'd point it out as I was concerned about buying this amp if the capacitance was so low. I will probably purchase this amp soon.
Also, I'd like to say that I like the way you do your reviews because you do each category in the same order each time which makes it easier to compare notes between different reviews.
Picked one up today. Awesome amplifier!
Have you tried the yamaha R-N803 integrated amp with built-in streamer?
and - it's readily avail in the far superior silver > PS Yamaha sells a stereo receiver line , looks like the exact same style with the bass /treble controls etc. RN 602 = 80 w / ch. ( no connection to company )
Love the silver look. Cannot comment on the RN602.
As for the power supply caps they are 12000 microfards each, nice touch for modern systems
Can I suggest that you light the front of the equipment your reviewing. All that black does not reveal the buttons, dials, etc.
Can't wait for my IOTAVX SA3 to get here Monday. Then I hope I can get the PA3 before the end of the month. I was hoping for it to be here Friday so I could break it in over the weekend but it sat at Customs for 24 hours. I asked the guys at Audioholics if they've tried any of the IOTAVX products and Theo Nicolakis said he hasn't had a sampling of their products yet. I said if he reached out to them, they would most likely send him a review unit. I want to see IOTAVX succeed in a tough market for smaller companies. Audioholics do mostly AVRs so it would be nice to see how their home theater system does. It may be another one of my purchases in the future.
The hold up sucks, but I'm nonetheless excited for ya. Give it a bit of time to break-in, and enjoy!
Yeah, I reckon you'll love your SA3 - I'd say 24 hours of use will get it where it needs to be performance wise.
The new Yamaha S series integrateds are out----maybe you can review one??
Nailed it. I bought this unit a last Xmas and you described it to a tea. I play mine thorough 20 year old 620 Bowers and Wilken speakers. Sounds great.
Please review cambridge cxa 60 and rega brio if you get a chance.
Hi Sean!
Any thoughts on the Yamaha a s1100?
Would you recommend over the schiit aegir in monoblock config?
Any chance of reviewing and compairing the Outlaw RR 2160 integrated amp @ $850 its in the price range? Regards
Any thoughts on the phono stage performance on this amp? Is it good right out of the amp or would you opt to use a pre-amp? The DAC is great, but I was wondering your thoughts on the phono feature.
Update
I answered my own question.
I discovered that it is "okay"...not that great compared to the performance of the other elements of the amp. I use a pro ject pre amp to bring it up to snuff. Some needle to vinyl contact noise is apparent as it comes, and as it comes...not so special.
Not sure I really agree with your characterization of the "old Yamaha sound" as treble-forward. A lot of those old amps have dried out electrolytics and as such don't sound great. I can hear the difference in the two CA-810s I own, the one that has been recapped and restored has that laid-back sound you're talking about and not even the slightest hint of harshness. The other one (all original components intact) has a definite harsh, grainy vibe on the top end, so much so that I use the high filter on it at all times. The RX-V850 and CX/MX combo (early 90s gear) I also use regularly are even smoother on the top end and a slightly darker sound overall.
Good review though! I kinda want to try out one of these now - I really wish the A-S1100 had the variable loudness but that's another discussion I guess.
It shows how naive the reviewer is to be honest. I wouldn’t recommend this channel to anyone. I have a restored Yamaha power amp myself and what it offers is a lot of clean headroom. However the power section in my R-S700 is already good enough for the speakers I use and I never regretted simplifying myself and omitting the power amp.
You're right. They didn't call them "Natural Sound" receivers for nothing. Yamaha makes tons of musical instruments; they know what music is supposed to sound like. But if you weren't listening to the late '70s/early '80s Yamahas when they were new, you wouldn't know that.
I went with the cambridge axr 100 just for the blutooth sake non amp shold build this days with out that future
Good, honest review. Keep 'em comin'...👍👍
Great review alot of good information.
3:31 - You bring up a real concern with the unit’s lack of a configurable crossover for the subwoofer output. And in that vein, are there by chance any integrated amplifiers that you might know of that offer a configurable crossover for the subwoofer output?
Wow CD direct 😱 That's very old school.
Is the power on,off button kinda feel loose... or nice and tight..on mine it works,but feels loose....not nice and tight and harder to push in like the new cd-s303 player I just bought... thanks.
I spoke with Gene at Audioholics and he recommended I pair this integrated amp with the Bower's and Wilkins 704s2. I haven't received them in yet however, curious to how they will sound together.
Hi, I was consdering this amplifier for KEF R5 and saw you'd recommend the IOTAVX more. I was Looking at the IOTAVX and would get the SA3 and PA3. If I get the IOTAVX stack, how would I connect my computer to the IOTA? Thank you
You’d need a separate DAC, there is no USB input on the IOTAVX SA3.
How much of your evaluation occurred with the “pure direct” button on? Takes this thing to a totally different level.
If you have the time, I'd be interested to read your impressions in pure direct.
@@al201103 My impressions with Pure Direct on are that it's super clean, clear, powerful and exciting. Almost night and day from the laid-back sound without it. It's like 2 different amps. Check out this review for more in depth description: www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/yamaha/1.html
@@leemazur870 I wasn't even looking for stereo gear when I visited a friend who owns a stereo shop. During that visit Zeppelin started playing.....Roy asked you like what your hearing? The sound quality reminded me of Counterpoint gear I still have today. He demonstrated the set up A-S801 with RP8000F Klipsch speakers the source was thru the DAC and Yamaha CD Player. I purchased both the AS801 as well as the Klipsch speakers. I use this system in my guest house and find myself spending a lot of time enjoying this system. The pure direct is always depressed and while a CD is in use the CD direct is on. Btw there is a weeks long break in period on this Amp. Once past this the Yamaha is smooth and accurate.
I had the s1000 and s2000 amp and cd players I find they sound big but boring uninvoling but well built the Caspian m2 amp for a bit more money over the s2000 amp sounds. a lot better and I still have it .
My r1000 Yamaha was a big boring piece back in the day too L.OL.
I got the Yamaha R-N803 and paired it with my B&W CM6 S2 bookshelves + Martin Logan Dynamo 300 subwoofer. Great sound all around. Tried all genres, many recordings and they all sound beautiful. No complaints. How do you find out which frequencies the Bass and Treble affect? Thanks! The Yamaha 2 channel receivers get my thumbs up.
How does this one compares to the Cambridge ARX100? I bought a pair of RP600m.
Thanks for the review. Will the AS801 pair will with the Linton Heritage ? And if there is a more recent Yamaha that is a better match, which would that be.
Thanks for nice video? How can you compare this amp
With emotiva a-300 with emotiva P-100 combo?
Hello, if you connect this Yamaha to the TV by toslink and you play Tidal on your TV will you use this DAC that is used when you connect your computer with usb cable ? Will Tidal played from your TV same quality as played from computer? Thanks
same question for me
Very good amigo!
Thanks to Adorama for sending you that one to be review, now I think we are getting close to one of the top line of Yamaha AS family: A-S1100, A-S2100
I wish they could send you those too, peace!
Thanks! I hope they can as well.
Tnx Tnx. I was looking for a 701 Yamaha because of the sub out. You are the first make clear that is it fixed.
I have the 700 without a sub out on it. I'm a big fan of having a subwoofer with mij B&W 805 d2 's. This review saves me money 🥳 On my 700 I made a "by-pass" speakers out to a the sub. this works fine. My question is, which (good) audio-brand does have this variable sub out and also the separate treble bass? ..
I ended up replacing my old 201 with a 501 hooked the elac 6.2 it was a good match up for what I listen to
What do you have the impedance switch set for 8 or 4 ohms?
Can you review the Onkyo A-9150?
I have wanted the IOTA since your first review.
On an integrated receiver with a sub out such as this (not an LFE out), even though they have set an internal Crossover at 90 Hz, can you still manually adjust the knob on an external subwoofer's built-in crossover at 90 hz and down? (Just not above 90 hz)
yes you can go lower than 90 but not higher not ideal but should be fine
@@treblarefils Thank you :-) I received the answer from a representative from Yamaha but it's really good to hear it from a second person as well.
@@treblarefils I didn't plan on setting it that high anyhow, but was just curious about being able to adjust it at the subwoofer in general.
With klipsch rp-600m...yay or nay?
Thanks for the excellent review, your input helped me to purchase the 801, one of the main reasons I chose it was to run my 4 ohm speakers, but the info on Impedance Selector switch in the manual has me really confused, I would like to run two pairs of speakers, can I run two pairs of 4 ohm speakers with this amp?
great video I have a question what do you think would be a suitable upgrade in sound quality from this receiver if I wanted something a little bit more fun dynamic and hear every bit of detail maybe slightly forward but not too far off from the sound of Yamaha what would you recommend? How about the s 2100 I know that has a bit lower watts per Channel
How does this sound against the AS1200? I noticed this has more power. Does the 801 have the same sound characteristic as the the 1200?
Always my go to amp in the 70s when I couldn’t afford Marantz
How does Yammy fare with a Klipsch speakers? Mine are Heresy IIIs now run on a DIY SE tube amp 10Wpc. If I think of changing I get Yamaha, Marantz and Denon easily in my local stores than other brands.
And Yammys have variable Loudness control which is a big advantage. Had a mid level AX -496 earlier.
I am in doubt about either the A-S701 new or a used Denon PMA-1510AE. Will be mostly used for Vynil, any comments on the phono stage? I have a pair or Dali Zensor 5 and a Pro-ject turntable without pre-amp
Appreciates to your review...any idea which is better than Yamaha A-S801 vs Marantz pm 6007..thanks to your comments.
I agree, the Marantz are not a good couple for bright speakers. Nice review!
Will this drive either Magenpan LRS or MMG's? Hoping to eventually upgrade to Maggies. Tks
I want to build a HiFi system mostly for music with an integrated amplifier..but I also want a Home Theater... will I still have to get an A/V receiver so I can connect TV and the other speakers or is there another way around this? And when it comes to Integrated Amps.... Marantz or Yamaha?
patrick edouard you cant still connect to tv without hdmi, you would likely just be using optical audio which means you will need to switch input on the tv and amp
This model or the Emotiva BasX-A300 in Sound Quality?
Great looking machine! I am a little bit of a Yamaha freak. As I am watching this video, I have my Yamaha CD-S300 playing Rush Moving Pictures. Powered by my Yamaha RX-V685 receiver. Love that front panel, nice clean look. Great rear panel layout, plenty of inputs. Thanks for the under the hood look. Awesome review as usual, Thank You man!
Nice! Enjoy the tunes and the Yammy gear!
Hi-Fi Haven glad to know I’m not the only Yamaha fan boy here!! I’ve got the A-S801, CD-S300 as well, excellent player, love the usb jack on the front, I’ve got an R-N500 stereo receiver and I’ve had a couple Yamaha AVR’s in the past. Great Rush album, what speakers you running?
@@nathanjones4039 Yamaha NS-777 speakers with two Yamaha YST-SW215 subs. Sewell Direct 12AWG speaker cables.
@@hi-fihaven2257 I have the Yamaha A-S801, A-S2100, WXA-50 amp, Yamaha NS-F901 Soavo speakers, Yamaha AV10sg violin, 1978 FG-300 acoustic, RSP20CR electric guitar and a 2010 Yamaha VMAX motorcycle. The wife has a Yamaha U3 Piano and a 2015 X-Max 400 she uses to get to work. I am on the look for a Yamaha keyboard for one of the kids. You think you're a fan boy?
@@wa2368 Sounds Awesome! For my main music system I have an A-S3000 stereo amplifier, CD-S3000 CD player, an a pair of NS-5000 speakers.
Can you please do a review on the as 501 Thanks
Good review I bought the yammy 801 about 2 years ago wasn't to happy with it maybe it was me but my 2010 yammy ax497 integrated sounds better to me it's all pure analog I use my own dacs but i took the 801 back for refund then i eventually bought the Pioneer Elite SX-N30 that was 799.00 new and 100 bucks cheaper than the 801 next up would be the as1100 all analog and i think 3k
There are tons of variables that influence what you take away from an experience. Sorry the 801 didn't work out for you. Sounds like you've had some other units that make you happy.
Zero Fidelity Yeah Sean I saved up for almost 3 months to buy the as-801 I been closed minded the last ten years only buying Yamaha integrated amps and Recievers I still have 3 I use for testing speakers for reviews, but soon as I heard the yammy 801 I started my quest on utube for reviewers of honesty on audio hifi thank goodness I found you Thomas ,Darko, and many others but you 3 I trust and thanks again Sean for all your hard work I've learned a lot from your reviews you got me back on the right track
Good review. I’ve been looking at the Yamaha AS 1100 stereo amp not sure of the model number it has VU meters. This is a couple hundred less. I wish the AS1100 was available in silver. My stereo listening room is typically very low lighting. I can barely see the controls. The silver would be far better.
The AS1100 is where Yamaha starts to get serious. You get a big transformer. The filter cap bank is more than doubled in size. The input stage is a lot beefier. And of course, you get those VU meters.. :D I have no doubt that the A1100 is an objectively better performer. The question is if it can offer the better performance without losing the easy-going charm of the AS801.
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Thanks for your opinion on the Yamaha AS1100. Pretty sure that will be my choice. I am in process of moving, and plan to wait till that big job is complete before getting the unit. It is fun learning though.
The A-S1100 is indeed available in silver:
www.amazon.com/Yamaha-S1100SL-Channel-Integrated-Amplifier/dp/B0105JWDPU/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=A-s1100&qid=1560161559&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Does the sound quality will be better compare ...yamaha 801 to old... denon receiver avr 2807 and yamaha receiver 2060??? With B&w 702s2???
I have the receiver version of the 801 (same power plant) in the N803. I’m going to do some experiments vis a vis the subwoofer out. I am dead sure that it’s not a fixed output as I am driving two SVS subs from it. It’s indeed variable. I know that the spec sheet says something about a fixed 92 Hz crossover, but I don’t know. I’m going to kill the speakers, turn up the sub crossover frequency and use a tone generator to see if I can get 120-150 Hz from that jack. I’ll follow up here when I sort it out.
Bill our sub out in the 803 is different due to having the DSP ability
It's a low pass filter that's set to around 100Hz (or 90Hz, depending on which part of the manual that you read). According to Audioholics, if you cross a sub at least 20Hz below this point, you shouldn't run into any integration issues.
If you look at the spec sheet in their respective manuals, they both mention a subwoofer cutoff frequency (90 Hz for the receiver and 100 for the amp). This has always stumped me.
Yes - the receiver has YPAO, which is too horrible for words for me. I’ll set it up, it seems to be ok and then it just suddenly decides to not use my subs. It’s just awful. They can keep that nonsense. I just may decide to upgrade to the A-S1100 and buy a Bluesound Node 2i. You can get some pretty good deals on the 1100 via Amazon returns
Another interesting fact about the N803 (which also specifies a cutoff frequency for the sub) is that the YPAO DSP feature allows for adjusting the sub crossover to as high as 200 Hz. Now, what the hell? Which is it? Does the YPAO feature allow you to defeat the low pass filter? Unfortunately, the Yamaha literature is inscrutable and the company can’t be bothered to reply to queries about these products.
Bill D my understanding is that the n803 has true bass management like their AVRs. ie it will high pass the speakers as well