500 miles & a battery factory
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- I drive five hundred miles in a day in a Tesla Model 3 to visit Britishvolt's planned battery factory giga site in Northumberland. I wanted to see what was happening up there and prove that you can do long distances in the UK in an EV (well a Tesla anyway). Surprised how fresh I felt at the end of a very long day.
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Most credible motoring journalist / presenter on any UK media platform.
criminal he only has 1k subscribers
Oh my gosh, I have missed Quentin. One of the best and most under-rated journalists in the country, let alone in the automotive industry. Please make these videos regular.
Brilliant 👏 we'd love to see you drive up to Orkney as see all the great renewables we have as well as EMEC !
Since 2013 , over 100% of Orkney electricity needs has been met with renewable electricity from wind ,solar and tidal turbines.
You do these videos so well Quentin. A true professional, easy to listen to, great diction and a wealth of car knowledge behind you. Well done
Great to see another article from Quentin.
Now lets face it if you cannot charge at home then its a non runner for a vast amount of potential owners at present & of course the the purchase price is also beyond what many can afford.
What little I have seen of the public charging system (apart from Tesla) is dire and from what I read is becoming increasingly more expensive.
You comment is now redundant since Tesla announced their network will be opened to others (not to mention the major investment in the UK network)
You don't have petrol station on your doorstep either?
Quentin! Great to see you still making videos. Why does your channel have so few subscribers! I am nobody and have over 3k. Your channel and videos deserve more!!
Hi quentin
I travel to the cotswolds from the north east several times a year in my tesla m3 LR.
I top up when I reach my destination and use free chargers where available in the cotswolds. I totally agree that driving a tesla is the most stress free experience I have had in 45 years of driving. I would never go back to an ice vehicle.
Interesting idea to locate the battery cell factory in a mining area. At 5:30 there is a brief mention of a short supply chain which mentions local energy supply. Is there any Nickel or Lithium to mine in that area?
the Lithium mines in the UK are in Cornwall - which they are currently experimenting with extracting by "greener" methods - similar to fracking but without its dangers but not actually digging into the ground to get at it
Excellent content and great to see you doing a motoring channel on TH-cam.
Do more videos Quentin. Subscribed.
we need to see more of serious motoring like this rather than the clown show that is apparently about motoring......................from the famous 3.
Room for both but yes it would be good to have a consumer car show rather than pure entertainment, the question is who would host it? Is their anyone out there with that sort of experience 🤔😉
I'll be very interested to follow this British Volt Gigafactory story
All down to infrastructure again typical uk promising the changes but no infrastructure and don’t get me get me going on car manufacturers change is happening but not fast enough just to finish great video thanks for sharing 🙄😎
Battery cell manufacturing is a highly specialised sector. Does this project have negotiations in place with potential battery cell partners? Likewise at 2:00 Colin mentions Nissan's 'other' battery plant at Sunderland. Does this project have a contact to supply Nissan or another car company? 🤔
Most affordable cars should use LFP. So that is Ferro/Iron supply as well as Lithium.
Professor wearing a T-shirt. Quentin a jacket. Northerners are hard
Living in the Lake District, I sometimes get asked about the weather here. I usually say we get Winter, followed by six months of bad weather...... But of course to us it isn't bad, it's normal.......
Quentin How is the road noise in your model 3, as it seems rather noisy?
A great & interesting video but could have been much longer.
The plant will need plenty of lithium , really like the Tesla , I’ve been checking out the lease deals for the standard model based on 15000 miles a year , with a 4K down payment , £450 a month , not bad.
Don't forget you should save well in excess of £120 on fuel each month.
Shipping finished batteries is apparently bad. But is it better than shipping the raw materials instead? Can you get more finished battery packs in a ship than the relevant amount of unprocessed materials? I don’t think we are mining bauxite in the UK so we presumably have to ship it in or aluminium ingots.
Which part of "vertical integration" didn't you hear?
Anyway, "Aluminium"?
The same Aluminium used for internal combustion Engine blocks?
Just btw, I didn't hear them mention Aluminium batteries?
But oil had to be shipped here anyway, so why would lithium be any worse? At least you eliminate any further possibility of huge oil tanker spillages, like those we've experienced over the past few decades. And those batteries can eventually be recycled, with the lithium and cobalt content being recovered to 90% plus, and reused. You can't recover and reuse burnt petrol or diesel. Once that's gone, it's gone for good.....
2020 was when the oversupply of batteries ended. Globally, we are already looking at a shortfall in 2022. Battery research, development, manufacturing and Recycling are the key to a sustainable economy and environment. I do hope that the potential Lithium deposits in Cornwall prove to be viable, that would be a fantastic boot to the economy.
There are also considerable lithium deposits in Canada, Russia and Brazil. As yet, these are untapped. However, it seems likely that at some point in the not too distant future, EV battery technology may move away from using elements such as lithium......
Did they buy the surrounding land so they can expand when they realise that the amount of batteries they are building for isn’t enough?
You do not necessarily need to expand. An industrial facility can often increase it's output 3 fold by working continuous 24 hour shifts........
Enough secondhand EV's out there from 2010-2015 that may need second lease of life before too long. Doubt battery factories will be short of work in a hurry.
But not all of those cars will need a complete battery pack replacement. For many of them, a battery refurbishment will be perfectly adequate. This usually costs much less that a full pack replacement. The TH-cam video of the 10 year old UK owned Nissan Leaf having a battery refurb showed the work taking 4 hours, and costing £600......
Wouldn't have been even more environmentally friendly to simply have done a Zoom call?
We would have a electric car if ..A we could afford it and B we had the capability of charging at home.We can't always park in the same place and even then you are looking at at least 25 metres of cable across a public path to the road.
The only thing I can disagree with in this video is that jacket you’re wearing Quentin, having battery factories is such a strategic necessity for this country.
Yep. The jacket wasn’t the best choice. I thought it would be colder than it was. A sartorial mistake!! Its a fair cop.
I love Quentin's very clam and charming presenting style, and with time I hope he grows a large audience and can get some much more interesting and unique background music as this 2015 low or whatever-fi crap just sucks to listen to, in the context of Quentin and his style.
Anyway, about the electric stuff brought up in the video and comments, this electric stuff always seems to be done by people with their heads in the clouds and not quite thought out, and they should be focused more on long distance lorries, cargo ships and airplanes rather than cars, sure we feel the pollution of cars more than any other, but in context of things, car pollute the same as peoples farts do.
But maybe it's that way. so they can fix flaws with the drivetrain for much more serious tasks, like long distance hauling. I don't really know, but in a lot of ways this electric car stuff seems still much like a fad to me, but then again modern cars haven't been the most interesting and involved things to drive for decades now, so maybe it's for the best than they are becoming EVs.
yeah what about kids digging up the minerals for these batteries
All the major European and US EV makers have signed assurances that the cobalt in their batteries will never be sourced from the illegal artisanal mines in the Democratic Republic of Congo that employ children. Tesla led the initiative and there's now the Fair Cobalt Alliance with miner Glencore as a founder member. The Chinese (according to Amnesty International) still buy cobalt from the illegal mines. Illegal mines are still an issue but much is being done to make sure all cobalt is ethically sourced with a clear human rights certificate of origin.
What about all the kid breathing in the toxic air ice cars have created.
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Good point.
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What about kids digging up those same "minerals" (I assume you mean Cobalt?.... So metal).... For the last 60 years to desulphurise gasoline? You can't criticise one without the other.
Here's news for you. The vast majority of EV manufacturers will only buy ethically sourced lithium. The majority of the World's lithium is mined in Australia, and no children are used to mine it. When you get a minute, take a look to see where your clothes were made. You'll probably find they came from sweatshops in India, Pakistan, Thailand or somewhere similar, where most use child labour. So why hasn't child labour ever bothered you before now? Child labour isn't a electric car fault. It is the direct result of the nations whom still allow it to continue. I'd suggest you complain directly to them, because it may have more effect than posting about it here...... And here's yet more news. The big oil companies have been mining for cobalt for DECADES. They need cobalt to remove sulphur during the refining process..... Has that never worried you before either?
Having had an electric car recently and now given it back people need to be aware that it’s getting more expensive by the day. Instavolt charge 69 pence per kilowatt. 4 x more expensive than charging from home. Synthetic fuels that will be on a par with electric cars for overall emissions will be coming soon. Also hydrogen needs to given more funding as it has been in Europe as the one trick pony of backing only battery is dangerous.
If you charge at the right time at home it can be as low as 4p per kWh. I agree that we need zero VAT on electricity for EVs and lower rates at public chargers.
I installed solar primarily to power my house, but I produce more solar power in the middle of the day than even my batteries can store, so I charge my EV for free for a couple of hours a day and that covers 90% of my driving needs.
Instavolt charge 40p it was 35p but hmrc forced them to charge 20 % vat rather than 5% so the price went up to 40p
I think you mean Ionity not Instavolt?
Tim Skelton
Since Tesla has announced their network (28p?) will be opened to others, there will be downward pressure on charging costs.
Biofuels? Don't hold your breath.
Hydrogen?
The fundamental issue with Hydrogen is "source to wheel efficiency"
It requires 3 times the grid energy to move a fuel cell vehicle the same distance as a pure BEV.
The end consumer (driver) will pay for that energy.
Not viable.
(There's also the fact that "Green Hydrogen" isn't green)
(Don't forget, Fuel cell vehicles need batteries as well!)
The appalling assumption of “We’ll have to ship them (batteries) in”. Yeah for all the British cars being built in British Britain for the British Britons to drive. Britons will be chugging around in Trabants and faded green fibreglass three wheelers this time next year. The people’s car… if their Fascist government hasn’t wiped them out before then.
What utter nonsense. Is being so cheerful what keeps you going? You've never experienced fascism in your entire life. You're simply being silly and over dramatic......