BEST EXHAUST EVER! (Tomei Expreme Ti Install) *INSANE RUMBLE*

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  • We installed THE BEST EXHAUST you can get for your Subaru and/or most other JDM cars!
    The Tomei Expreme Ti Catback is officially on the Subaru STI and it sounds INSANE! The rumble is out of this world and Tomei has proved yet again that it is a great looking exhaust as well as amazing sounding exhaust. We had a Tomei on the BRZ, GTR, 350Z and now it was finally time to put it on the Subaru Impreza WRX STI Hatchback! If you were thinking of buying an exhaust for your Subaru/ Nissan/ Mitsubishi/ Toyota etc. I would highly recommend the Tomei collection of exhausts!
    If you guys are interested in picking up a Tomei for you car I suggest hitting up my buddy over @highintakeperformance on instagram, shoot him a dm/call and he can get you almost any car parts you need!!
    Follow ya boy on instagram @beakhan or on tik tok @beakhan_

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  • @emoceanal23
    @emoceanal23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    that positve energy is gana get you super far , cant wait to see what else you do bro

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      appreciate that bro❤️🤙🏽

  • @Goyxrd3
    @Goyxrd3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Your girlfriend reminds me so much of my fiancé! I’m telling you there’s nothing better than having a gorgeous loyal girl who will support your hobbies like cars! My fiancé isn’t huge into cars but laughs everytime I smile when ripping through the gears on my Sti like a little kid on Christmas

    • @808whitefa5
      @808whitefa5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup you're a lucky man. My wife isn't the biggest fan of me spending all money on my car, but she still supports me and my passion.

    • @Gunma_garage
      @Gunma_garage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was gonna say something along those lines but ya beat me to it haha. My wife REMINDS me that I should've bought an Sti when I got my St. Shes FORCING me to sell it and go back to a Suby haha. Love the vids and that energy is contagious!

    • @tylerw4883
      @tylerw4883 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      life goals

    • @Goyxrd3
      @Goyxrd3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gunma_garage haha man I feel that but I personally love ST’s it’s a shame ford stopped making them. Hope to hear that your in a subie again soon ;). You and your wife take care!

    • @Goyxrd3
      @Goyxrd3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylerw4883 I know man I couldn’t be happier

  • @Smerdzy
    @Smerdzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd get so many emission fines for running this exhaust in Australia lmao
    I just have an XForce catback. It's quiet, but loud when you want it to be. Also has a really exaggerated rumble, more than other brands.

  • @HarryGraham5350
    @HarryGraham5350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s a dope exhaust setup especially with stock headers and down pipe 👌. Also I’m new to the channel and watched a bunch of your BRZ videos, I now saw this one and was wondering if you sold the BRZ for the Sti?

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually ended up selling the BRZ for a skyline GTR and then sold the skyline GTR for this hahaha

  • @lmind2
    @lmind2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:25 is startup on new Tomei.

  • @jairoelpsycho1
    @jairoelpsycho1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    friend where did you buy the front bumper

  • @bradenatchison7731
    @bradenatchison7731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just bought my wrx last week after saving up for 3 years and I’ve decided that I can’t drive on the stock exhaust anymore lol. Can’t wait to see more videos with this thing

    • @vifth9555
      @vifth9555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this is where your modding phase starts 😭 gonna from exhaust to even more mods 😭😭

  • @TheFox711
    @TheFox711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    BeaKhan = Ultimate hype man

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ayyee!!😂🤙🏽

  • @Henry14141
    @Henry14141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can't wait for the downpipe, its gonna sound so sick

  • @zachdennis6370
    @zachdennis6370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    squeaky clutch pedal , sounds like the welds failed on your firewall

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      still have to learn to fix that loll

    • @zachdennis6370
      @zachdennis6370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beakhan look up humblerumble firewall fix thank me later

  • @808whitefa5
    @808whitefa5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The tomei gives the subaru rumble the most unique sound out of any catback. I had a nameless muffler delete single exit ony sti. It sounded great with my GS DP. When I added my 4-1 EL header, it got to be too much daily driving. I ended up putting a invidia q300. Nice mellow sound. But don't worry, i also have a GS uppipe with tial waste gate. So she screams still 🤣

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh that must sound so bad ass🔥🔥 i cant wait to get an external wg some day😆!

  • @blindaccuracy2881
    @blindaccuracy2881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys 100% watch tj. He says garbage like that and also you said too quiet bud. Same shit he says. But its good shit.

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i probably picked it up from his vids lmfaoo, i love him hes the goat🔥

    • @blindaccuracy2881
      @blindaccuracy2881 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beakhan yeah i pickup shit from watching him too. You're videos are quality. So keep them coming my man.

  • @faizaanquraishi7922
    @faizaanquraishi7922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Let's go!!! The exhaust sounds great. Keep up the great job. Love the vids.

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate it homie!!❤️

  • @Anthony-ck3jf
    @Anthony-ck3jf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the hatchback and I'm thinking of getting it as a first car, how reliable is it tho?

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they are reliable as long as you don’t modify them too much haha. Also dont beat on it too much and keep up with maintenance and you should he good! But honestly that goes for any car

  • @jaep6893
    @jaep6893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got a full P&L exhaust on my 08 sti, doesn't pop like the Tomei and has such a unique great sound compared to every other subaru on the road. No slip joints, all bolted flanges like it should be ( or v-band)
    My buddy had a full Tomei exhaust setup on his 08 sti, just could get past all the annoying pops and bangs and insanely loud droning. But still looks nice and sounds good

  • @mocheen4837
    @mocheen4837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review but the camera work gave me a headache. You need to transition smoothly. I could not watch the entire video. Too much jumping around.

  • @timmann111
    @timmann111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im not a fan of single exit exhausts when it has factory twins... I would 100% buy it if it had 2 oulets

  • @davidbakh9140
    @davidbakh9140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro you live on the east coast, no shit your exhaust is going to be crusty. Don’t bag on Perrin. That’s an easy way to lose a sponsorship

  • @jomaru2434
    @jomaru2434 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that doesn't sound, you have to go over 3,000rpm to make a sound, you spend more on gasoline than making noise

  • @justinchan3160
    @justinchan3160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    rotate muffler section counterclockwise a tad bit

  • @hemzz_21
    @hemzz_21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Only tge OGs know about the real Tomei

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Way back in the day hahahah

  • @Gabriel-fb8ng
    @Gabriel-fb8ng 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not hating or anything but idk how people can drive cars that obnoxiously loud lol I have an axleback with a muffler delete (not too loud, nice rumble) and i even get annoyed with the sound after driving for a while 😂

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      all good haha, i live in an area with a ton of cars waaaaaaay louder than mine so I dont stick out in traffic at all lollll

  • @longdang3379
    @longdang3379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey bro. Can u link me the gtr video? I wanna see it. It sounds nice

  • @mandyc1091
    @mandyc1091 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine sounds like this .. can’t wait to get rid of it. Horrendous de catted .

  • @dewdude1000
    @dewdude1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It might be me but I hope that isn’t the firewall creaking against the clutch assembly. Something about that is a common problem I believe.

  • @doomdreaming
    @doomdreaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait to get a Tomei for my 2013 STI! thinking of doing the cobbs downpipe too

  • @danielsandoval4586
    @danielsandoval4586 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got a 2012 sti I’m hyped to get my tomei on!

  • @brianpersaud8996
    @brianpersaud8996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bro i live in nj also and how did we get so much snow this year💀

  • @TheLancer042
    @TheLancer042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer my AWE Track Edition cat back exhaust. Unpopular opinion, I know. Nobody cares, I know. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      everyone has there opinions haha, ive never heard that exhaust before but im sure it sounds great!

  • @ChaseMedia
    @ChaseMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IS THAT A TOMEI DAWG!? 👀👀 #TomeiGangOrDie 😅

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TOMEI GANG!!!!!!!

  • @DarkInstinct05
    @DarkInstinct05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a big fan of the single exit fart Canon tbh

  • @iiSignStyle
    @iiSignStyle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So will I need to tune if I get this exhaust? I thought going from the cat-back you didn’t have to tune..?

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you don’t necessarily need a tune for a carback but its definitely recommended you get one if you have an aftermarket down pipe

  • @sinaks7752
    @sinaks7752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is the 2011+ bumper a direct fitment or do i need anything else? i have an 08.

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you need the fog light covers, tow hook cover and grille. Other than that everything fit fine!

  • @Yessirdo
    @Yessirdo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This car is so cool I want it for winter

  • @DannysVlogzz
    @DannysVlogzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wanna send me the tow hitch … please lol

  • @jonathanaleman55
    @jonathanaleman55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Literally sounds like mineee . whats your exhaust setup, header catback dp?

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tomei headers, unknown hi flo cat dp and unknown up pipe and tomei catback

  • @trevstrash650
    @trevstrash650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got my tomei headers and downpipe just waiting for my exhaust and it’s going to be nasty. This video just makes me even more excited. xD

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ayyee!! Thats gonna sound INSANE bro!! have fun with it🤘🏽

  • @erikolivares6244
    @erikolivares6244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the same hitch but was really looking forward to how u removed your rear bumper 😞

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ah man, sorry about that it was easy though, there are 2 bolts, 1 at each part of the bumper at the top part of the wheelwell. After that just make sure you have the push in clips under the bumper and then once those are all out just pull on the bumper to release it from the bumper clips and it should come right off. Hope this helps!👍🏼

  • @kid5ubaru204
    @kid5ubaru204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sick video bro ur editing skills are great! Congrats on the new tomei 🔥💯

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you bro!!❤️🤘🏽

  • @prodbyahlecks
    @prodbyahlecks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that a tomei dah?!?!

  • @Johnncasella
    @Johnncasella 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    subi sounding better!!

  • @zmartnz4512
    @zmartnz4512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where did you get the bumper replacement? Great video by the way!

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rock auto

  • @spaceman092
    @spaceman092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey bro what’s your exhaust setup from the obvious tomei. Starting with headers

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tomei headers, unknown up pipe, perrin catted dp and tomei catback!

    • @spaceman092
      @spaceman092 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beakhan ohh wow I like how it sounds I have a hatch too. Also with tomei headers. But I’ve yet come across a hatch with a catless downpipe and tomei so I know mine is going to be LOUD😭

  • @Jay_P86
    @Jay_P86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That fake personality

  • @kevinm5177
    @kevinm5177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice pipe, really brings out that Subi burble.And Amanda definitely needs an STI!

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried to convince her to get a wrx blobeye but she wasn’t budging haha, maybe after hearing this she might change her mind!

  • @omarchavez6309
    @omarchavez6309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yo love seeing how pumped you are love the subi man!

  • @papa__benz__
    @papa__benz__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know it's old but IS THAT A TOMEI DAHHHHHHHHH?????

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      old is gold ISSA TOMEI hahahahaha

  • @duran976
    @duran976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why you need a tune ? I’m new to your Chanel I don’t know what mods you have bro

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      atm i have tomei headers, unknown up pipe, catted dp and tomei catback. im on the cobb ots tune so i technically shouldn’t be beating on the car😅

    • @duran976
      @duran976 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beakhan cool, one question what if my car stock only has cat back exhaust and if I run stage 1 Cobb accessport with Air cold intake will I need a protune ?

    • @jackcolomvakos3338
      @jackcolomvakos3338 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@duran976 no you’re fine, a catback exhaust doesn’t really change anything either than the sound. When you change your downpipe is when you need to get a pro tune

  • @zackjones8306
    @zackjones8306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sell me ur toe hitch I got the same Subaru

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dm me @beakhan, ill hook it up lol

  • @matthewdewdney1907
    @matthewdewdney1907 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What year bumper on the sti hatch’s would fit the 09 sti without having to change side fenders or will it l just line up perfectly with the 2011 bumper on 2009 or nah

  • @dogdog4173
    @dogdog4173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome to the Tomei gang

  • @johns5586
    @johns5586 ปีที่แล้ว

    OTS tunes are fine to run on the day-to-day as long as you’re using the products they were tuned with. Cobb tunes can only be run with Cobb parts

  • @savith2108
    @savith2108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been waiting for the tomei exhaust

  • @K03sport
    @K03sport 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who says they don't 'hate' you already, but they just haven't told you? It is jersey after all...as nice as the tomei is, I'd rather do the Boso' axle back by remark...sure, not Ti, but also not the Ti price...

  • @ogxros
    @ogxros 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i hear that you have a squeaky clutch issue, mine just started, what did you do to fix it?

  • @cristianyunga4532
    @cristianyunga4532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds really good
    What brand downpipe u running?

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure actually lol, i bought the car with it already on but i have an invidia dp sitting in my garage

  • @MatTheDragon
    @MatTheDragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    😂👍

  • @BcapGarage
    @BcapGarage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Energy is amazing!! Love the video! Just sub

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you!

  • @metalsplinter2
    @metalsplinter2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the aggressive look

  • @jaimegonzlaez8459
    @jaimegonzlaez8459 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    down pipe won’t make it much louder can barely tell i have stage 2+ wrx catless dp invidia n1 race cat back and i barley notice a change

  • @seniosue9795
    @seniosue9795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey bro do you think this type of exhaust tomei will bring out the ruble on a 2008-09 subaru forester xt as I have an xt duel exhaust? Cheers

  • @drownedsilence1967
    @drownedsilence1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I straight piped my nova and it was loud I had neighbors walking up the street to find out what car was making all that noise

  • @PRAYIMAKET
    @PRAYIMAKET 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    show us a launch

  • @vashamba
    @vashamba ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that sound is out of the world. Super great. But actually I am in need of that old front bumper for my car if you no longer need it. I love the look of it.

  • @Tattoos.by.cristian
    @Tattoos.by.cristian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you running UEL or EL?

  • @kasraogabian9122
    @kasraogabian9122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Tomei

  • @browntown9150
    @browntown9150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay so even tho I love quad tips I’m probably gonna give into the Tomei😅 and I know you didn’t have the stock dp but would you know if any adapter or basically anything not included with the exhaust would be required for installation with a stock dp?

  • @justinbelisle8252
    @justinbelisle8252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks headers

  • @rmdavenport50
    @rmdavenport50 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If somebody made me watch this blindfolded, I’d think it was the stradman lol

  • @finnfox5
    @finnfox5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Invidia > Tomei

  • @brookeduclos6193
    @brookeduclos6193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the car stock otherwise?

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      tomei headers and a catted dp

  • @markustaylor1889
    @markustaylor1889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the process of doing the same thing 🤣

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ayyee!!

  • @fenrirx9170
    @fenrirx9170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    take a guess... well the title cleared that up..

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂

    • @fenrirx9170
      @fenrirx9170 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beakhan no hate my man, im actually looking at a tomei for my STI aswell haha

  • @DukeeeGeee
    @DukeeeGeee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Third

  • @amrangailan7131
    @amrangailan7131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you still have the old exhaust, I would like to buy it from you

  • @MOET2110
    @MOET2110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dope

  • @donsosa9456
    @donsosa9456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would my rs sound this good aswell if I get that exhaust ?

  • @splixsky
    @splixsky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    sounds great. personally would feel embarrassed to have it cause then i couldn’t be seen by my neighbours due to the sheer embarrassment. glad you like it enough to not feel embarrassed every time you cold start it tho haha

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i joke about “annoying” my neighbors but in reality its only 2 neighbors haha, i try to be a good neighbor and put the silencer in for cold starts that are at night or early morning haha

  • @nunslinger
    @nunslinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey did you need adapter to fit catback to OEM downpipe?

  • @obonsu45
    @obonsu45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another banger Brodie 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ❤️

  • @Mattyypatty
    @Mattyypatty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it hurt me when you called a ''hot hatch'' a ''sports wagon''

  • @bryanennis1996
    @bryanennis1996 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tell her to buy a EVO. EVOS are faster then STI

  • @colealleva4449
    @colealleva4449 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man I have a fully built hatch down in south Jersey! Would love to get together and cruise one day!

    • @colealleva4449
      @colealleva4449 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do professional detailing aswell! I’d love to do your car for free for a shout-out ! Always trying to network

  • @AblationMusic
    @AblationMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish ETS made one for the hatch.

  • @luizdesouza289
    @luizdesouza289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds sooo good bro!!!

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks broo!

  • @DukeeeGeee
    @DukeeeGeee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds good

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks bro!

  • @BeeRainYT
    @BeeRainYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you still have oem exhaust ???

  • @ramadirangr8797
    @ramadirangr8797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do alot of people switch to a single or is that the only type that Tomei makes?

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont think tomei makes a dual exit for this car unfortunately

  • @douglashundley6777
    @douglashundley6777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tomie exhaust sounds good

  • @Yan7001978
    @Yan7001978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And she likes it!👌

  • @Tony-tk4ht
    @Tony-tk4ht 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So catless mid pipe?

  • @tobiasotero4582
    @tobiasotero4582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LAWNMOWER

    • @tobiasotero4582
      @tobiasotero4582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nah im kidding it sounds pretty good

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂😂 thank you bro!!

  • @amandaguariglia5310
    @amandaguariglia5310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FIRST

  • @chhoeutsun7400
    @chhoeutsun7400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    MoVlog…

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lmfaooo chilll😅😂

  • @breck5097
    @breck5097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet car! It sounds amazing. I have a 2014 Hatch, I want the Tomei but idk if it’s too loud for a DD. My car is stock

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a high flow cat and aftermarket headers with an aftermarket up pipe so my car is a little bit louder but honestly the Tomei itself is not and unbearably loud exhaust. it is very loud but I think it is still daily able

    • @breck5097
      @breck5097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beakhan sounds good. That helps a ton, thank you!! Sweet car man

  • @trumanadam7880
    @trumanadam7880 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My chevy truck smokes subies

  • @cockus123
    @cockus123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shoulda got GReddy 👀

    • @beakhan
      @beakhan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      greddys sound amazing imo but Tomeis sound SUPER aggressive!!