Land Rover Defender L663 Headlamp Upgrade LED to Premium LED - is it possible ?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video we look at upgrading our new Land Rover Defender L663 from LED to Premium LED headlights. The spreadsheet with the part numbers can be found here :-
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I did this upgrade successfully, ordered OEM Premium LED headlights from eBay as well as the IID GAP tool, need to change the following CCF settings:
MultiCAN-471 MainBeamFdbkMech BCM detects faults directly (0x8)
MultiCAN-482 FntSdMkrDrvMech Driven via BCM (0x8)
MultiCAN-679 HeadlightsVariant Headlamp_Variant_Mid_C (0x6)
MultiCAN-750 High Beam Lights Not fitted (0x10)
MultiCAN-814 Laser High Beam Menu Independent Laser setting (0x4)
This video is my blockbuster for tonight….
Self leveling headlights may help with a fat in-law, but they offer a great benefit while off roading up a hill. Love your videos and learning about everything you do.
According to my friend Craig at CamTech they need the height sensor data to counteract the "squat" under hard acceleration / braking.
Hey Simon, you just saved me $3000~. Dealer suddenly told me my build will come without the premium LED. So, I searched on ebay and found some used ones, thinking I can just swap and play. Luckily before I pull the trigger, I watched your video. Actually, LR in N. America did not adjust the MSRP due to unavailable of many standard features (fully digital cluster, bigger screen etc.), they actually bumped it up. Not reasonable. Toyota for example did reduce their MSRP for unavailable rear view camera. Love your channel!
Yes these are strange times and the customer seems to have no power - the manufacturers have all the power - but customers do not forget !
Great video (as always) … but I’d really like to see what you did to the software / which parameters were changed and what tools you used to accomplish this. Thx for all the hard work.
I guess he got JLR retrofits to alter the CCF file, that’s how he did adaptive cruise control
I think they can do it... but we did not use them this time...
I need to be careful that I do not upset any of my friends at JLR and also changing CCF files does come with risks and its not something that should be done by everyone with testing and knowledge. As mentioned it will become mainstream in years to come and when that is the case and the changes have been fully tested I will share more... right now this is very much an R&D project.
I bought mine with Matrix then before it was delivered Landrover told me would have to wait another 9 months if wanted Matrix, they took off my order the matrix but did not adjust the price! Seems like I need to speak to Landrover!!!
I got charged for a whole lot of things that were advertised as standard in my model. Luckily the matrix headlights was not one of them, but I did wait 12 months for my order.
@@Amandla-Awethu yeah not far off that for mine too 10 months!
I think there are some parts shortages but some refection on price would seem to be a reasonable request.
Great Great video, so very informative and well put together. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well done lads 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
It was possible to spec premium headlights on a base Defender (trim below S) in 2021 as well as the larger infotainment. Now it isn’t possible to spec premium headlights or infotainment on the higher S trim as I found out when ordering my second Defender. Soft close rear door has also gone, as has sunglasses holder. Even the rubber insert in the inner tailgate handle has become smaller. It is possible to spec the S with a “bright pack” and the front and rear chrome is beautiful… looks much more premium than the far more expensive X trim.
Yes indeed some of those nice parts have gone - along with a load of USB ports. It is possible to fit the larger screen and premium headlights as aftermarket upgrades !
@@L663 i saw your videos regarding the headlights. I’m not confident in dabling with the CCF files.
The matrix draw the same current on dip/high beam because they are all on all the time, just if you need an oncoming vehicle a selection of LEDs go out and though there will be a lower current draw, it would be very tiny and difficult to read.
Yes this makes sense = lets see if i can get Part 3 done !
Sorry but how did the premium work at the end of the video?
They worked correctly and all was good --- but --- 2 days later one of the headlights has stopped working - i did get the lamp cheap from ebay and it may have been removed from a car due to intermittent fault.... more to come
Guys when do you expect Matrix lights video? Cheers, keep up your good work 🙏
This video will be published tonight !
Boom Boom 💥
Hi POWERFUL UK… always hardworking and patient…
CAN YOU CHANGE THE standard MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT SMALL LCD SCREEN TO THE 11.4 bigger higher RESOLUTION. I am looking forward to that video
It can be done but i am still looking for a cheap screen
Simon…more complex stuff…I envy your technical abilities…a mystery to most of us! I think the best way to fit the matrix ones is to trade the car in for an X model!! We await episode 3!!! P.S. Is anything weird happening with the rear lights..are they linked ??? 🤭🧐🧐🧐🧐😀😀😀😀Richard
Morning Richard - the rear lights seem to be controlled by separate parameters in the CCF code ! The cost of the Model X could be a problem.. the lights are around on ebay cheap enough.
As always, a great video! - BUT - "rest of world"??? Only ⅔ of the world drive on the right - a full ⅓ drive on the left like the UK, including Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Malta and much of Africa. Actually I saw a video by an American who looked into this and came to the conclusion that it actually makes more sense to drove on the left (and the French only drive on the right because Naploeon was left-hended and made his armies march on the right).
ROW is NAS spec - or essentially flat beam. LHD/RHD refers to EU spec where there is a dip to one side. NAS is generally only used in North America and the Gulf States.
@@mercedes_and_more NAS, or more specifically the USA has a different asymmetrical beam pattern to the rest of the world, defined under FMVSS 108. Canada also accepts FMVSS 108, but also accepts UNECE 48, hence Rest of World (ROW). ROW just differs between LHD/RHD, whereas USA/NAS is very much its own thing.
@@cameronwood1994 spotter! 😂😂😂
new subscriber, great video, just saved me a few grand but...... You DID manage to fit the premium. I have the base S and also want to fit premium, it can be done as shown in this video but where could i take it to have the software programmed for them to work please?
So if you smash a headlight or it stops working - and purchase exact same part number unit is this then plug and play? The vin in the headlight ecu will be different i guess and will the car get upset about it? I’m trying to find out as going for cheap used off eBay might be better than 5x price for brand new plus dealers ‘coding them in’
I think they will plug and play - or you could swap the ECU off the back of your old headlamp - they just screw on.
Hi Simon,
I bought a premium headlight set, but it gave an error. How can I update it? Thanks in advance for your support.
You need to upgrade the CCF files to make them work without an error - this will need a tool like the GAP diagnostics IID tool
@@L663 hello simon..Just so we are clear, i can swap my 300s standard headlamps with premium oem leds by changing the CCF files... plug and play...I purchased an oem set a while back and could never get them to work ... btw, thanks for the effort you put in
I replaced my headlights to premium how did you relearn the body control what is the computer u used to update the software
Can you make defender style headlights for the Disco 4?😅 I would buy those in a heart beat.
This is a good idea but there are a couple of issues
1) The tooling for headlights is $$
2) Land Rover have registered the design so it would need to be different enough not to encroach on their IP
Yes great info as always . Now i`m still waiting for my Defender to arrive having ordered it last July. I`m getting a 3.0D X-Dynamic SE. I really want the matrix lights but my dealer says i cant even get them as an add on , can you guys help please ? Thanks
Ian
We do have the RHD matrix headlights in stock NEW and I am sure there are companies that can do the upgrade LR retrofits ?. Your old headlights are also worth a lot so this would take some of the pain out of the upgrade.
Simon thank you for the reply . If you can obviously get hold of them why do "Inchscape" seem to be not interested ? Can i call you about this sometime ?
@@ianriseborough4711 The issue is that LR do not allow ( or enable ) the dealer network to modify the cars build spec - and there are good reasons for this related to control etc ( if your car is crashed at some point in the future who will know the lights are not the same as fitted when built ). With the introduction of SOTA this could be controlled over the air with the dealers just fitting and supplying the hardware and I am sure this will happen in the future as I can with my Tesla - we can order upgrades on the app and buy extra software features. I think the dealer is giving you the best support they can and Land Rover cannot get enough lights due to shortages so it is a difficult situation.
So i have a Mercedes E Class (w213 current shape) which has the matrix headlights and when you go to the dealer you get a part number for lhd and rhd lights. What this acutely means is which side of the rust they are coded for as the light has no reflector to direct the beam it is all software controlled. I know this as i had mine reprogrammed to lhd when i exported the car to Germany. This was done by coding using XEntry by a coding company but i could have had it done by Mercedes but they were a little bit more expensive. There is allot of debate on Mercedes’ forums (and you can by the usb plugin coding online) to unlock NAS spec to fill adaptive (it is allowed in Canada but not the US) without changing the light.
Long way of saying i bet if you retrofit those top spec lights you could buy left or right hand drive units and make them the correct side of the road with coding only?
Also on Mercedes’ and BMWs you have to code each light to the car (like fuel injectors) to get the BCM make them work properly
Interesting - I was puzzled by Land Rover selling 3 versions of each spec of light - as you say this can surely be programmed / selected in the vehicle ?
Also what about when you travel abroad ?
@@L663 normally the lights are flat but they decide sometime to dip to the right (originally to the left). When you go into the Command control system then you can change to driving on the right or the left. When you do this (so for me coming to UK and selecting left) then the lights stay flat and you loose the motorway driving lights (they raise up a bit), rain light (more light spread for less glare) and roundabout light (short throw extreme dip to the kerb). Before coding this happened when I selected driving on the right (i.e. going to France).
As I say, 30 minutes after of coding they now default to right hand side traffic rather than left with the kick up (dip) to the right. Mercedes also do a "normal" LED as standard for the car but that (I think) does have some kind of reflector in the projector and can't be adjusted.
Did you leave the premium lights on the car?
Yes for now - although one has failed - it was cheap from ebay and seems to have been removed from car .. may be faulty unit
@@L663 did you the test what the manual headlight range adjustment dial does if the premium leds are installed? (As the premium leds adjust their headlight range automatically)
Hi there.. I have 2008 LR2 which is now giving an error HDC fault System not available... Can you pls suggest me some solutions. ?
If it’s only at start up, then low battery
@@AndyK.1 My 2006 L322 does the same, charge up the battery and restart and the fault goes away.
I tried jumpstart but failed..
Hello,
Do you have any idea why when I switch the LED headlight to LED PREMIUM the first unit works perfectly with daytime running lights but the turn signal does not flash (only lit) and the second unit does not have full daytime running lights but the turn signal flashes normally?
Yes this is the odd things that happen if the CCF file is not set up correctly !
You need to change your CCF files to match the type of lights you are fitting - this is the tricky bit !
We had pretty much the same issue as you are describing.
@@simonjefferson
So do you think it should work properly after changing the CFF?
Even if I change to regular LEDs to MATRIX LED headlights?
@@petrbacik4408 Its a tricky job and not really something we encourage but watch part 3 video
Still looking for those CCF codes! Any chance you can share?!
MultiCAN-471 MainBeamFdbkMech BCM detects faults directly (0x8)
MultiCAN-482 FntSdMkrDrvMech Driven via BCM (0x8)
MultiCAN-679 HeadlightsVariant Headlamp_Variant_Mid_C (0x6)
MultiCAN-750 High Beam Lights Not fitted (0x10)
MultiCAN-814 Laser High Beam Menu Independent Laser setting (0x4)
@@beretta627 oh man, I know what I’m doing this weekend 😆 Do you have a P300?
@@killinkluck p400 us market
@@killinkluck any luck with this?
@@krisvedder no luck, I even got a 2024 p300 loaner, pulled the ccf, matched the ccf, and still no luck. I gave up and put back in my standard headlights 😬
If you want a look at my d300 hse I can pop down I’m only up the road 40 mins
Interesting .. what headlight config do you have - we may to compare the settings on some different models
@@L663 Its either the Premium or the Matrix I will investigate further.
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Wow first lol!