Yellow box junctions - beware of the trap

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  • @Jer0nim0
    @Jer0nim0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    Most of the yellow boxes where I live are nothing more than faded fragments of yellow paint. The condition of paint work on British roads is dire.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I agree!

    • @alexdev5809
      @alexdev5809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      It really bugs me, because, most errors at unfamiliar roundabouts CAN be mitigated, through the use of correct road markings.

    • @Jer0nim0
      @Jer0nim0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@alexdev5809 Exactly. I feel sorry for learner drivers today.

    • @x1rap
      @x1rap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It's unfair to drivers when the paint is in such poor condition. Could this be used as mitigation if you receive a fine.

    • @konradc12
      @konradc12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In my area, some on the boxes (probably those with cameras), have been repainted. I assume due to successful challenges to FPN's, where the faded lines couldn't be seen in all but perfect conditions.

  • @PedroConejo1939
    @PedroConejo1939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    A perfect explanation of how the rules work, and a perfect practical demonstration of how yellow boxes can be poorly implemented and maintained.

    • @harpingon
      @harpingon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In an unfamiliar town, the fact that so much information is given via painted tarmac, which is often in poor condition, or has actual cars on it, is the worst thing. Do I need to be in the left lane? Right lane? Middle lane? Who knows. Even if there are arrows on the road, can't see them, or they're worn out. Those first two boxes seemed almost invisible. Great if you know they're there already, not so much if not.

    • @davidcurry4433
      @davidcurry4433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Second example is fine, up until the point where the car's coming towards you turning Right fill you once free space..
      Police tried to educated me not to enter the box unless your exit is free. That would be the same Police that use mobile phones and jump Red Lights 😳

  • @Phoenix-qu8uj
    @Phoenix-qu8uj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Yes, this pressure from vehicles behind is going too far. Rude yelling, flashing, horning, gestures. This pressure must stop. It's especially learner drivers and new drivers who are treated this way.

    • @everestyeti
      @everestyeti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Do what I did, fit a rear view Dash Cam. It's really funny watching people realise they are being filmed and then watching them start behaving themselves.

    • @Phoenix-qu8uj
      @Phoenix-qu8uj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@everestyeti that's exactly what I will do. Thanks for the tip

    • @GeeCeeWU
      @GeeCeeWU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's just another reflection of society today.

    • @Rig0r_M0rtis
      @Rig0r_M0rtis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Gotta just learn to ignore it. I myself have trouble with that as I often flip a bird toward the rear windshield and one should not do that.

    • @rogueuniversities6866
      @rogueuniversities6866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Rig0r_M0rtis Yes better to try to be calm and just focus on your own driving

  • @crazykittensmiles
    @crazykittensmiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Thank you for your clear concise information. There's a lot to take in. Often, other TH-camrs add a lot of filler to the information which makes it feel congested in my brain!

  • @lucymariephillips432
    @lucymariephillips432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    After a stressful year of driving lessons while heavily pregnant to having my daughter 11 weeks early your videos helped me to pass my driving test yesterday. Thank you very much x

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      That's great to hear, congratulations on passing and your baby.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Test, I meant passing your test 😂

    • @lucymariephillips432
      @lucymariephillips432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ConquerDriving lol i got the gist. But thank you. Your videos were very helpful x

    • @royston6451
      @royston6451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Congratulations on Passing your Test and with the Birth of your Little One !👍🚗🍼

    • @stephenmason5682
      @stephenmason5682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now you can gently forget what you were taught and join the rest of the wacky racers!

  • @s.sradon9782
    @s.sradon9782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "you can get fined even though you were following the rules" is the most british thing I've heard this week.

  • @AKAMustang
    @AKAMustang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Very nice to see the mention of "must" vs "should" rules.

    • @redblade8160
      @redblade8160 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mustang.
      Just another stupid way with the English language to add confusion in order to put you in a catch 22 position...

    • @AKAMustang
      @AKAMustang 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redblade8160 It's not so much to do with English language in this instance, but rather legal requirement vs recommendation. Some people don't realise that against The Highway Code is not the same as against the law. For example it's common place for people to think that undertaking (overtaking on the nearside) is illegal, it isn't, it's just an advisory warning that if deemed to be unsafe could result in a charge of dangerous driving or similar, but the same goes for any unsafe driving. Motorcycles that filter (lane split) is another one that can get people riled up.
      On the converse side people that can't merge in turn (zipper merge) and instead block traffic from making full use of the road as it was designed think they're in the right, when clearly they're idiots. Hopefully the majority agree that middle lane hoggers shouldn't be on the roads either.

    • @redblade8160
      @redblade8160 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AKAMustang
      The English language can take on different meanings from everyday "words", especially in the law courts where the judge has his own dictionary for this and legal crooks (along with their solicitors) also use it to get to get away with murder ultimately.

  • @dt1607
    @dt1607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I've been driving for around 40 years and always found yellow box junctions slightly confusing, thankyou for this. I will now check out the rest of your vids I could do with a bit refresher course 👍

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Are you serious?

    • @raidermanuk
      @raidermanuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1gerard47 40 years of waiting at the lights to turn right and getting beeped by the car behind for not moving forward into the box? Ignorance is bliss!

    • @TremereTT
      @TremereTT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just realized that a motorhome holliday through Brittain might be more difficult of an undertaking than just adjusting to lefthand driving, slow speeds and the imperial system. Never have I ever heard of yellow boxes. Can they be avoided by staying outside of big cities?

  • @paulwatson2702
    @paulwatson2702 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing! As a Colcestrian, myself, I can appreciate where you're coming from!

  • @ojie285
    @ojie285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow! This is the best explanation of Yellow Box Junctions. I've been driving for years and regularly using box Junctions and yet I still learned something new. Many thanks.
    Here in Dagenham, so many drivers are too afraid to use the yellow box junctions. They just stay behind!

  • @techmantra4521
    @techmantra4521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Continued learning in any field is important. I didn't know about turning right where there is a yellow grid box.

  • @perkinwarbeck3029
    @perkinwarbeck3029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I still watch these videos even though I have a licence, and I encourage others too as well. I still pick up tips from you!

  • @bencoder
    @bencoder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The turning right then exit gets blocked trap is what I wanted to know - glad to know that I didn't really do anything wrong when that happened to me. Thanks

  • @joshuanelson7037
    @joshuanelson7037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Passed first time today with 5 minors. Your videos were so useful when I was prepping for my test. Thanks!

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great to hear, congratulations on passing!

    • @yunusmiah552
      @yunusmiah552 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Joshua, congratulations for passing. Please could you kindly confirm what videos you watched in particular to help you pass?

  • @曉p-p7t
    @曉p-p7t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The technique to observe two or three cars ahead of you definitely are useful. It help you judge earlier of many different situations include if you will need to hit the brake soon. Sometimes the vehicle in front of you can be that guy who like to emergency brake at the last moment

  • @MetaMercs
    @MetaMercs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for all your videos! Just passed this morning first time round with 0 minor faults, your videos have really helped me improve as a driver!

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What an achievement, congratulations on passing!

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And was there any major faults ?🤣

    • @MetaMercs
      @MetaMercs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1gerard47 No mate😂

  • @jamey55lee
    @jamey55lee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Such an excellent video, thank you. I am very wary of box junctions ever since I was caught in one a few years ago, despite having been driving for many years. In some parts of London and presumably other towns and cities, I'm convinced that fines are issued more in order to collect revenue than to keep traffic flowing.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I do disagree with the fines as stopping in a box junction isn't always avoidable.

    • @reverendbluejeans1748
      @reverendbluejeans1748 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does the cop admit this when they pull you over.

    • @khanhnqit
      @khanhnqit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Totally agree, these boxes are typically called "moneybox junctions" nowadays.

    • @unconventionalideas5683
      @unconventionalideas5683 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@reverendbluejeans1748 It’s often not a cop, but a computerized camera. It doesn’t know the difference.

    • @reverendbluejeans1748
      @reverendbluejeans1748 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unconventionalideas5683 Since going to London, I received 7 tickets on my rental car. For going down roads the wrong time, and blocked roads. And various other moving vehicle offenders. Do the have the same racket going on in all of UK.

  • @themightyguitar
    @themightyguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just passed my test first time with 0 minors, watched these vids religiously thankyou so much!!

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great to hear, congratulations on passing!

  • @bradleydixon2949
    @bradleydixon2949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Passed my test second time over the weekend, even after moving off in 2nd gear which I thought I would’ve failed for🤣. Just want to say if it wasn’t for your videos I still believe I’d be learning now. Best channel to come to for learning to drive is this one 100%

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's great to hear, congratulations on passing! Moving away in second gear is not usually ideal but it's not usually unsafe either so you should be OK.

    • @clivewilliams3661
      @clivewilliams3661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConquerDriving There are various vehicles that have a crawler first gear that would be unwise to use to move away with. Generally these vehicles are of a more utility type. My old Range Rover Classic with a Toyota diesel conversion was always driven away in second gear as this afforded a smoother start off and a quicker pick-up to the general traffic speed.

    • @stacynewcomb7102
      @stacynewcomb7102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you have recently passsed your test " You are still learning" !! trust me.

    • @bradleydixon2949
      @bradleydixon2949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stacynewcomb7102 definitely, just taking it one step at a time building up my confidence driving by myself

    • @clivewilliams3661
      @clivewilliams3661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stacynewcomb7102 You don't have to have recently passed your test to carry on learning, this should happen throughout your driving period. Too many people think they know it all because they have driven for just a few months or years. This is why it would be a good idea to periodically test drivers to ensure they have learned. Its something that happens to various professions to ensure competence and that they are abreast of the latest regulations and practices.

  • @Aarontlondon
    @Aarontlondon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for this video. Even though I passed my test over 4 years ago, I’m still so confused about these yellow box rules, and I think a lot of other drivers are too 😂

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Redo your test.

    • @Aarontlondon
      @Aarontlondon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1gerard47 No.

    • @GeeCeeWU
      @GeeCeeWU 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just revise the Highway Code again or Google it, as things are often updated.

    • @user-pd9xj1bt4e
      @user-pd9xj1bt4e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1gerard47 using that logic pretty much every driver in the UK has to redo their test

    • @blackkid128
      @blackkid128 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-pd9xj1bt4eit is definitely advisable when ignorant people like them are driving

  • @rufusgreenleaf2466
    @rufusgreenleaf2466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    We get it sometimes where i live when the train crossing goes down and only space for two cars can be used passed the yellow box when waiting at the line. The rest have to wait further back behind the traffic light but you do get pressure bandits who beep you because the traffic light is green even though you can't go anywhere.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Pressure bandits. That's a good description.

    • @rufusgreenleaf2466
      @rufusgreenleaf2466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ConquerDriving A little heavy towards the average horn tapper compared to an actual wreckless impatient driver but yea 😅

  • @deanobosho
    @deanobosho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Off topic.
    Just like to say thank you for the videos it helped me so much. I started my lessons on the 4th March and did a total of 39 hours of lessons, I passed today with 4 faults. Thanks again.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great to hear, congratulations on passing!

  • @mugashagoden.
    @mugashagoden. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks bro for ur concise presentation! Love from Uganda 🇺🇬 east Africa

  • @bayralysis
    @bayralysis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As an american who has no intention of visiting the UK any time soon, I can say this video was very informative. 👍

  • @johncarlos9348
    @johncarlos9348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Update: I passed my test yesterday with 5 minors. Your videos helped a lot. 🙏

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great to hear, congratulations on passing!

  • @Judi.B-621
    @Judi.B-621 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just passed my driving test this morning with 5 minors. Your channel is invaluable. Thank you so much for your help.

  • @louisebikeri
    @louisebikeri ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just moved into a coastal town with crazy box junctions, I got hell confused throughout practicing until I decided to check in with your channel (always gold). Massive help as always, I'm having my test in a few days, will update how it goes 🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾

  • @st1nk1n
    @st1nk1n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad to have a dash cam. I'd like to see someone explain how a driver can see through buildings if the exit is clear without stopping on any of the cyclist or pedestrian areas. The other common problems problems are if you ease back to leave a space, some one else will fill it. If you pause at a yellow box, you get honked at and abused. Driving is such as pleasure.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I understand. It can be frustrating. Driving is a pleasure in the right place, commuting in a city with too many cars not so much.

  • @AndrewKNI
    @AndrewKNI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video and explanation. From an example in the video it appears that some box junctions are really too large for the situation and can impede traffic, not help it flow. The large roundabout was a good example. It's a pity these things are not reviewed but then road repairs can also be ignored.

  • @hueandsteve1989
    @hueandsteve1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, perhaps not your intended or primary audience here, but I grew up in England & drove for about 2 years before moving to the US. Though I’ve returned many times since 1989 I’ve never driven on the left since 89. I decided to watch a ton of your videos, my wife’s suggestion, to help prepare myself for driving in Ireland, close enough to England. I want to let you know your videos were a huge help; they gave me the knowledge & confidence needed to take on the left side of the road again in a manual transmission, & how to tackle roundabouts! A sincere thanks to you for your help & great quality videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge in an easy to understand & practical format.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's really great to hear, thank you.

  • @onadipeoluwatoyin7826
    @onadipeoluwatoyin7826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for making such awesome videos. I've watched many ...a lot of them more than once. I had my test a few days ago ...and passed on first attempt with 5 minors. You videos were invaluable to my success. Thank you. 👍🙏

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's really great to hear, thank you and congratulations on passing!

  • @anakinskywalker3196
    @anakinskywalker3196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I passed my Ps test!! I couldn't have done it without you. Thank you for teaching me how to drive Manual! I couldn't understand it from anyone but you explained everything perfectly! The council is forever grateful.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great to hear, congratulations on passing!

    • @anakinskywalker3196
      @anakinskywalker3196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConquerDriving You're saving lives out here man, truly. Thank you for everything you do, ill stay watching from Sydney Australia

  • @teshane8784
    @teshane8784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely love this Road User rule explanation Richard, I live in Jamaica🇯🇲 and we drive on the left, same as UK 🇬🇧 of course. I am really optimistic that you will TURN THIS NEW ROAD USER RULE EXPLANATION INTO A NEW SERIES.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm happy to hear you liked it, thank you.

  • @1810abc
    @1810abc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for the video! This helps a lot. In my area Bromley, a lot of cameras have recently been installed watching nearly every yellow box junction. They will record the number plate and automatically send a PCN ticket (£130 fine) to the vehicle’s address registered on DVLA. It’s a huge souce of income for councils as it’s so often I see people stopping on yellow box and sometimes this is unavoidable…

    • @khanhnqit
      @khanhnqit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are doing this everywhere not just in your area.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some people call it day light robbery. I disagree with yellow box cameras.

  • @jayprivate825
    @jayprivate825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wanted to say I passed my driving test today with only 1 minor!
    So proud of myself.
    I don’t think I would of been as confident if I hadn’t of watched nearly all your videos.
    You good sir were a godsend!

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great to hear, congratulations on passing!

  • @jasonarrantimmis5967
    @jasonarrantimmis5967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Glad you covered the 'trap' scenario of the exit road becoming blocked whilst waiting mate ... never seen that covered in any other videos, but had always wondered what the score would be in such circumstances. A grey area it seems.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's a problem with no solution, you could be fined even though you have done nothing wrong. That's why I call it a trap.

    • @jdb47games
      @jdb47games 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      An offence is only committed if you enter the box without your exit being clear. Therefore if your exit is blocked after you enter the box, no offence is committed.

    • @dennistonrockstone
      @dennistonrockstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This why I always try to leave as much space as possible if I've just passed a yellow box but the traffic ain't flowing.... Fortunately I've never been caught in this trap in my 10+ yrs of driving mostly in London

  • @misterG2006
    @misterG2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:24 Waiting inside the box is okay provided the oncoming traffic which is turning left cannot then block your way out of the box if the roads are busy and congested. There's a junction near me like that and I've been caught out once or twice so I now always wait outside the box, much to the annoyance of some drivers behind me. Good video, thanks :) EDIT: I should have watched it all before commenting, you cover what I've said at 5:04. Thanks again.

  • @mhd5826
    @mhd5826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am very familiar with the box/roundabout at 4:00 and usually wait if the exit is not clear (usually I am coming from the road on the right). 9 times out of 10, the car behind me will actually go around me into the box instead of waiting behind, or, the car to my left (who is supposed to go left round the roundabout) will zip in front of me, or I will get beeped/fist waved etc, including by buses waiting behind who need to go straight but I am blocking their route by sittting tight. It is aptly named St Botolph's Circus and there are a number of clowns who drive round it!

  • @mylittleworld2552
    @mylittleworld2552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent videos as always.my local test centre examiners use a one way street as a trap/trick for learners. My instructor told he has met so many learners failing in the same street where i failed.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a shame, I would hope an examiner is understanding of the exit becoming blocked after you wait in the middle.

  • @carlarthur4442
    @carlarthur4442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for clearing any grey areas up , even at this point it's now Yellow not grey . Thank you . 😊

  • @ItsMeYeah888
    @ItsMeYeah888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Worst thing about these boxes are when there's more than one lane going in one direction, you see that your lane is clear so you move forward cautiously, then somebody from the other lane drives into the space you were going to, leaving you stuck in the box.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That can happen too. Not your fault though.

    • @konradc12
      @konradc12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happened to me once at a notorious box junction in Hammersmith. I wasn't sent a FPN, so assume someone monitoring the system understood the situation. Now I use a dashcam and backup footage on large backup drives, just in case.

    • @staygulf83
      @staygulf83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is not an offence. I appealed this successfully. Traffic Regulations and General Directions 2016 s11(1) says it is an offence to cause your vehicle to enter a box junction so it has to stop in the box junction by the presence of stationary traffic. If the moment your wheels cross the boundary of the box your exit is clear but someone cuts in front of you then you have not “caused your vehicle to enter the box… so it has to stop”.

  • @dillanmistry
    @dillanmistry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My instructor helped me with this one and this helps even more I never knew what they were

  • @november9046
    @november9046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello mate, just wanted to thank you for your videos. I managed to pass my test on Thursday, your videos are/were a godsend. Thank you for making these and covering the range of topics/subjects you do. I'm still watching your every upload despite my pass, and I'm sure I will continue to do so.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great to hear, congratulations on passing!

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not when your driving, and always wear your seat belt there's lots of just past there licensees on the road 🤣 sees, get the pun?

  • @JamesJones77980
    @JamesJones77980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This so nearly caught me out on my test. I was doing my test in a completely new area far away from where I live due to the high volume of tests being booked, about halfway through my test I approached a box junction at a really busy crossroad and I literally had no idea if I was allowed to wait in it or not as there was a big queue but the light was green. My instincts told me for some reason that I shouldn’t wait in it and luckily they were correct but it was literally 50/50

    • @nct948
      @nct948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always find these box junctions problematic even after 40 years driving!

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you made the right choice on your test.

    • @JamesJones77980
      @JamesJones77980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nct948 haven’t come across another one since passing luckily

    • @Amphy002
      @Amphy002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nct948 Yes.. I think local councils use them for income generation. They put them in junctions where drivers can get stuck for reasons beyond their control, and install a permanent camera.

    • @nct948
      @nct948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Amphy002 I agree with you. It happened to me at a junction in London where the box was so long that you had to take your chances and follow the traffic. I got caught as the traffic stopped when I was 3/4 through. The second time I went through this crossing and found myself in the same situation, I opted to turn into the street on the left so avoiding the hefty fine!, Very nasty of councils.

  • @jayzo
    @jayzo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love seeing footage of level crossings where idiots queue in the box. You'd think that if the box wasn't enough to indicate being there was a dumb idea, at least the train tracks crossing the road would be a sufficient indication. But no, the barriers go down and they're trapped on the crossing with a train barrelling down on them in _sheer shock_ at how this could've ever happened.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's where you're wrong, those boxes are for VIPs to park while they wait to get hit.

    • @unitrader403
      @unitrader403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@SmallSpoonBrigade They're for VIPs because its the best place to wait for the events following to unfold.

  • @James-sc1lz
    @James-sc1lz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got fined because the back of my tires were slightly over the yellow box. I could not argue as I read the highway code but it was not completely my fault because the car in front stopped with a massive difference from the car in front. Some drivers do this to catch people out. The other issue is when two lanes converge into one and the drivers in the left lane keep you from going forward and effectively push in front of you. The yellow boxes can be a massive pain in the arse but yes they have a purpose but you need to be very careful because it is the most effective way for the council to make money and cameras in junctions are very common
    Very helpful for all of us.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with the Yellow Box but as there are situations that force you to block it there should not be fines.

  • @al-anoud-123
    @al-anoud-123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Straight to the point - that is why I enjoy watching your videos!! Thank you so much ❤

  • @redspecial4102
    @redspecial4102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's a huge one on the south circular crossing dual lanes in both directions with a large central reservation. It was heavy traffic and I waited for a space at the end of the traffic on the other side. When my exit became clear I moved into the box junction and when I was halfway across, another driver exited a parking space without indicating their intentions, using my exit space & leaving me blocking the junction, then the lights changed and half of London was beeping at me like it was my fault. I did everything correctly as is the highway code. The problem is, anpr can send an automatic ticket for blocking the junction because the exit was not clear... which it was when I entered.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is why I disagree with the fines.

  • @liammurty
    @liammurty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thought this was pretty straight forward, but recently I’ve noticed loads of people stopping in them, the reason I watched this.

  • @ronniebrown6225
    @ronniebrown6225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Far too many do not have a clue about box junctions and junctions in general. How often do you see someone stopped beyond the stop line but not in the actual junction/roundabout itself, the thing is they do not know that in that scenario when the traffic clears they can continue without waiting for the light to change to green because they are already passed the stop line. The TV advert for box junctions used to say " box junctions make us all do what the good drivers have been doing for years"

    • @ojie285
      @ojie285 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Occurs so often in Dagenham, almost at every green light where so many drivers just stay behind the box junction.

  • @evelynwoolston7
    @evelynwoolston7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a cyclist, I'm very grateful when cars leave the cycle area free. On a windy day it is easy to wobble as you take off. I've had cars angle themselves so close to me while waiting at a box jungle, when they want to turn left that I can't risk going straight ahead until they have gone.

  • @grolfe3210
    @grolfe3210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clear video well explained.
    There is a bit of an odd thing at 4.43, the roundabout has a yellow box and then as you cross it then next section is marked "keep clear". That just seems to be very confusing and I am not sure why they are not marked up the same.
    More than once I have had cars cut across lanes while I am crossing the box to take the gap I had in my lane and making me stop in the yellow box. Nothing came of it but I would say that I did ensure my exit was clear so did comply with the rule.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep clear is the same as a yellow box. The difference with the yellow box is it's more enforceable and soon more councils will be able to fine people for waiting in them.

  • @acelectricalsecurity
    @acelectricalsecurity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are allowed to do as you please in a yellow box if you drive a German car, the German car rule supersedes the highway code.

  • @MrZoomZone
    @MrZoomZone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had an impatient driving instructor toot me from behind for not crossing green lights when the exit was NOT clear and traffic NOT moving. How dumb is that. Also got tooted for not not entering a yellow box at a busy level crossing in stoppy traffic, again impatience as in both cases the delay was only a few seconds.
    I was not aware of the yellow box trap - when your exit gets taken from elsewhere - and how to deal it. Thank you for that.
    The thing that scares me most is sudden fog on motorways - you just have to hope a low speed limit is already signalled before you reach it.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it's foggy I advise driving slowly regardless of the limit. As you mention, fog can be patchy and visibility can suddenly reduce.

  • @elaineroberts7493
    @elaineroberts7493 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My husband was fined for stopping on a yellow box in London, whilst driving my car (so the summons came first to me) and with me shouting at him not to enter it. He is very wary of them now, and for Christmas that year I gave him an up-to-date copy of the Highway Code: he’s still speaking to me!!

  • @roadmonitoroz
    @roadmonitoroz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We have those yellow box things too (usually on rail crossings). I still see people stopping on them / across the tracks in congested traffic. One day I saw it and the boom gates for the train came down. Thankfully the person right across the tracks managed to get away but only just.
    One thing I have seen a few times is motorists who stop just past the box (even though there is nothing ahead of them) to get you stuck on the rail crossing. The same thing happens on right turns across traffic. Some game player will make a right then jam on the brakes as soon as they've cleared the intersection leaving you in the middle with a car bearing down towards you. Neither work on me as I've seen both happen numerous times so I just wait back there until the rail / side road is clear (even if being honked at).

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      On that note, I find it a tiny bit strange how not all level crossings here have the yellow box junctions. Some that do is only an inconvenience to trains (as they’re checked to be clear before a train passes over them), whereas some which don’t are a genuine danger to stop in (as they aren’t checked to be clear). Not that most people would be able to know the difference, but then you shouldn’t be stopping on train tracks anyway…

  • @danwiddon3854
    @danwiddon3854 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yellow box and other junction-blocking rule-breaking seem as common in urban areas as speeding is on our roads. Useful video. particularly the option to wait if turning right. The second or two gained by yellow-box waiting isn't worth risking the appeal process though, but I'll remember your tip next time I visit a town or city.

  • @loeva9626
    @loeva9626 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very clear explanation! Thank you very much ! Particularly like the animation of moving cars ! So easy to understand 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @BLK2000
    @BLK2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great advice, very helpful on those tricky yellow boxes 📦 👍

  • @thomaseriksen6885
    @thomaseriksen6885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanking you for thinking outside the box. We all love on a yellow lemon tree

  • @billroberts5661
    @billroberts5661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Something to add here is to treat the box junction the same way as parking on a yellow line. It’s not always about you blocking a junction that drivers are unaware off. Even if your rear tyre is a few inches over the line and the junction is devoid of any traffic in any direction you will still get a fine through the post for effectively parking on a yellow line.

  • @PascalDickhoff
    @PascalDickhoff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! I would like German traffic lending some of the signage of yours. It makes such a more refined impression in comparison to the very ambiguous German markings. No such additional info. Just “you should know where you shouldn’t be”.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did find it challenging driving in Stuttgart a couple of weeks ago.

    • @PascalDickhoff
      @PascalDickhoff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConquerDriving I've never been there, but I've heard Stuttgart is quite a dense city. I can barely imagine going "on the wrong side" in a foreign city :0

  • @SmallSpoonBrigade
    @SmallSpoonBrigade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We don't have many of these in the US, at least not around here and they're usually painted some other color. Most of the ones that I've seen are next to firestations to ensure that the trucks can get out if there's the need to when traffic is blocked due to a red light.

  • @matthorner35
    @matthorner35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Literally just had this situation in a lesson - I have an excellent instructor and now just reminding myself haha

  • @PreNeanderthal
    @PreNeanderthal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Problem with the yellow box on the bridge is: If you are a total stranger to the area, you can't see how far the box extends. At the time of the video there were no vehicles in front. But suppose there had been. A stranger will not be able to see (or know) whether there are one, two or even three car lengths clear, because of the hump of the bridge. Seems to be a cleverly designed box and, when local authorities take over enforcement (as they already do in London) the local authority can look forward to a nice little earner.

  • @antonypalmer5804
    @antonypalmer5804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video. I recently got stuck in a box junction. it was a dual lane road and I was in the right-hand lane, the car in front of me had cleared the junction so I started to enter it only to have a car from the left hand side change lanes and block me leaving me in the box junction with nowhere to go.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That does happen sometimes.

    • @jdb47games
      @jdb47games 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then you committed no offence, as your exit was clear at the time you entered the box.

    • @konradc12
      @konradc12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happened to me once at a notorious box junction in Hammersmith. I wasn't sent a FPN, so assume someone monitoring the system understood the situation. Now I use a dashcam and backup footage on large backup drives, just in case.

    • @antonypalmer5804
      @antonypalmer5804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@konradc12 Think that it might be a good idea for me to get a dashcam

  • @mrjoe5661
    @mrjoe5661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quite a comprehensive video thanks. I would like to add something though. You point out that a vehicle may enter and wait in the yellow box, provided the exit is clear and the only obstruction to turning right is oncoming traffic. However, many drivers take this to mean they can enter and stop in the box if the car in front is turning right and that car's only obstruction is oncoming traffic, hence forming a queue inside the box. The second car is then prevented from proceeding not by oncoming traffic, but by the car in front. Only one vehicle is permitted to stop and wait inside the box if turning right all other right turning vehicles should wait as you described, outside the box, not obstructing crossings or cycle boxes. Maybe worth mentioning if you cover yellow box junctions again.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As many cars that can fit in the box can wait in the box if they're blocked by oncoming cars, even if a car is going straight and is waiting behind a car that is blocked by oncoming traffic. As long as their exit road after the junction is clear.

    • @mrjoe5661
      @mrjoe5661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ConquerDriving I'll bow to your more up-to-date expertise, but when I worked in a Police traffic unit, box junctions were treated as I described ( 30+ years ago!)

  • @1gerard47
    @1gerard47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are so clever, driving for 45 years I'm so glad I watched this ,never ever knew what that box was for,I thought sometimes the fairy played chess in the middle of the night when it was quiet, where is your seat belt?

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 Chess 😂 I wear my seat belt when driving and take it off when parked to reduce noise on the microphone from friction.

  • @AnnabelleJARankin
    @AnnabelleJARankin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That first one is a ghost of its former self! I am old enough to remember when they first appeared on the roads (must have been around 1970 I think) - I wasn't a driver at the time because too young, but many drivers were initially confused by them!

  • @jackstaumer2498
    @jackstaumer2498 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool to learn about other countries laws i live in the US and i've never seen these yellow boxes before it would make it a hell of a lot easier if we had these at intersections

  • @brusselssprouts560
    @brusselssprouts560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminding the OAP/large pickup builder/delivery/Audi/BMW drivers of this would be cool.

  • @meznaric
    @meznaric 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, this is a very useful video! Would you consider doing a video about dash cams, pros and cons of having one, and your personal advice on whether it's a good idea to have one?

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, I may do in the future. It's not something I have but something I think is a good idea.

  • @denyseb3789
    @denyseb3789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos !! Very clear and concise...your my online driving instructor

  • @magdalenabuczek1817
    @magdalenabuczek1817 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best explanation ever👍🏻

  • @johnroberts7529
    @johnroberts7529 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautifully detailed as ever, many thanks.

  • @just_passing_through
    @just_passing_through 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Australia we don’t bother with box junctions. You are NOT allowed to queue across ANY junction at all. Don’t enter ANY junction unless you can clear it at the other end. Just open your eyes and look ahead.

  • @Anna-ch7it
    @Anna-ch7it 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who has a priority on a junction? Please can you make a video? Your channel is really helpful 👍

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. You can tell who has priority by the give way lines. If there are no lines then use the signs and if there are no signs or road markings then the branch road should give way to the major road. If it's a cross roads without signs or markings then no one has priority.

    • @Anna-ch7it
      @Anna-ch7it 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConquerDriving Amazing, thank you very much

  • @MantiszToboggan
    @MantiszToboggan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the road layouts , have purpose and with great organization, wish the western world would figure it out already.

  • @burgersnchips
    @burgersnchips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Every junction is a box junction" - I wish more people followed this. Often I feel like the only one.

    • @jamesphillips2285
      @jamesphillips2285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was watching from Canada and was thinking: "this video seems strangely relevant" (even though I have never seen a yellow box junction).
      Then he drops that line.

  • @mpeterll
    @mpeterll 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best yellow box trap I ever encountered was actually several such junctions only one car-length apart. Under normal conditions, maybe they would have worked fine. The only trouble was that I was towing a trailer at the time.

  • @sylviaelse5086
    @sylviaelse5086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As you said, the rule is that you must not ENTER the yellow box unless the exit is clear. When turning right, if one has stopped in the box when the exit is clear and then the exit ceases to be clear, there is no offence. In the event that a fine is issued, it should be sufficient to say (in court if necessary), that the exit was clear when one entered. Since the burden of proof lies on the prosecution, absent other evidence that exit was not clear when one entered, that should be the end of it.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would hope so too. A lot of hassle though for a car journey. You shouldn't have to defend yourself to the council when you have done nothing wrong.

    • @DeeSock
      @DeeSock 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ConquerDriving 5:03 The last car that turned left, when can see a driver waiting in the yellow box junction to turn right, and can also see there is room for just one car on the exit road for both drivers, should technically be the one to be fined as they break rule 144 "​You MUST NOT ... drive without reasonable consideration for other road users." Anyway I am guessing I won't enter box to turn right if in doubt, like in Australia, especially after the test when I don't need to demonstrate I know it is legal to enter the trap

  • @bertiesworld
    @bertiesworld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never quite understood why there are no high level signs depicting the area covered by the yellow box. I recently drove through Nottingham and they had these brightly coloured painted wooden signs at low level, going on about it being illegal to stop in the yellow box. I get to the box itself and well, you could just about make parts of it out. Talk about putting the cart before the horse. More paint on the road would have worked wonders. Actually, given the lack of paint, I seriously doubt if the box was actually enforceable.

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Poor marking is one of my pet peeves, especially when they’re so faded it’s hard to tell whether they’ve been removed or not. Add to that not actually removing old paint markings, and inconsistent bus lane signage (thanks TFL and London boroughs, lovely work there!)

  • @bryantotten2757
    @bryantotten2757 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very clear and precise.

  • @hickerz
    @hickerz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video, really helpful!

  • @s1.william
    @s1.william 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    got my test on thursday, not 100% confident i’ll pass but i couldn’t change the date as there was no later dates so i decided to just go for it anyway. feel so 50/50 about it

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck with your test!

    • @s1.william
      @s1.william 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConquerDriving thank you, i’ll come back after with the result

    • @s1.william
      @s1.william 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ConquerDriving i passed, 2 minors still in disbelief 🎉

  • @10thdoctor15
    @10thdoctor15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll be coming back to Colchester in a few weeks. I recognise the roads in the centre.

  • @karengonzales6096
    @karengonzales6096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    just watched this vlog and thought I reconized the roads! Ithought you were going around and up North hill in Colchester and then along st Botolphs and police station. I did not see "colchester" in bottom left corner...lol I grew up in Walton!

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not far, a friend of mine used to live in Walton. He now lives in New York state.

  • @retroonhisbikes
    @retroonhisbikes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the few things no one know how to use. Same as the bike box (aka asl). Also cycle lanes.

  • @garrycope
    @garrycope 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good advice, but like most people you didn't mention the original reason for box junctions. Which is to make it obvious to strangers to that area of a town or city that these junctions are where motorists block the most by accident or by design in that town or city. So armed with this knowledge you should rarely get caught out as you now understand the true concept.

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think box junctions are good. However, I don't think people should be fined for blocking them.

  • @kapu3746
    @kapu3746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unless you live in around London, where yellow box junctions during rush hour, especially on a roundabout do not exist, unless you want to wait behind the line until the rush hour is over

  • @pqrstzxerty1296
    @pqrstzxerty1296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Audi, BMW and Merc driver say they are exempt, and can enter then park up on the yellow box, do a bit of shopping and come back later. As laws seemingly does not apply to them when driving this makes of cars

  • @Poodz_
    @Poodz_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I've found a lot of people are hesitant to enter a box junction to wait to turn right, and I don't blame them. You're trusting an automated camera system to understand the reason that you've stopped. I have no knowledge how said system works.

  • @Napert
    @Napert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    we really need these here in poland, because most drivers would just enter the junction when their light turns green without looking if the exit lane is clear and start using their horn at everyone who wasn't able to exit the junction in time

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're good until you get fined for getting stuck on one when it wasn't your fault.

  • @ianstokes291
    @ianstokes291 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just enjoyed watching the driving around Colchester where I was from.... what happened to Molly Malones on St Botolphs - its closed down!

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It closed down a long time ago. I did a gig there in my band days. 2003 I think.

    • @ianstokes291
      @ianstokes291 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConquerDriving I'd left in 96, but it was a local for me living the other side of the station.

  • @chrisf1600
    @chrisf1600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @0:30, Makes sense, but there's a junction near me which doesn't have a traffic light on the far side. If you're turning right, you can drive to the middle of the junction and wait for oncoming traffic, but once you're in the junction there's no way to see if you still have the green light. Yes, you can wait for oncoming traffic to stop when the light changes, but by the time you're sure it's safe to go the cross-traffic has started to move. Even as someone with 30 years experience, that one makes me nervous. I assume it's some sort of cost-cutting measure.

  • @hazcat640
    @hazcat640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you guys need some more rules. Y'all are such good subjects and obey so well, a few dozen more rules for driving should take all choice away.

  • @WaltANelsonPHD
    @WaltANelsonPHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! We will visit the UK someday. We will not drive in the UK.

  • @guysmith3146
    @guysmith3146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Driving a 16.5 mt artic, yellow boxes are a nightmare. Many a time I have had my exit space taken up by cars pulling in from side roads

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can imagine some are next to impossible in a lorry.

  • @sortiapricefield2303
    @sortiapricefield2303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i drive in the us so this video was of zero help but i drive for work so i find the rules for other countries interesting.

  • @WayneTulip-zm9gw
    @WayneTulip-zm9gw 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When I’m driving to work on the morning shift I leave the house at around 8:15am to start work at 9am, I usually only takes me around 5-10 minutes to get to work (in free flowing traffic) but I give myself more time because sometimes the traffic is super duper busy and quite often when you’re turning right at the library quite often the lane gets blocked but I never get caught out because at all junctions, even if there is no yellow box junction painted on the road, I imagine that there is a yellow box junction painted on the road at all junctions.