I have had both but don't any longer have either. The moken 10.5 is head and shoulders above the lifetime. The lifetime is probably a better boat for a youth and really paddles better than the moken. The moken is really stable but a barge and spins when you quit paddling. It needs the rudder to live with it. I don't think of the lifetime as a fishing yak its more of a rec yak that you can fish from. It will go over quick when you reach back if you arent paying attention. No go with a bunch of expensive tackle and rods. My lifetime went back because it showed up with two left foot rests and screws missing. Couldn't get parts from lifetime. They said they were shut down at the time because of covid. The moken was warrantied because it cracked behind the scuppers under the seat. Now I have a Moken 12.5 v2 and I am a happy camper. Skip both of these and get the moken 12.5. It is really worth the money. You can save on the rudder if you went with the 12.5.
@Douglas Smith The moken can have the seat in a high or low position. The moken is quite a bit wider at the seat area. It's pretty stable to stand up in. The extra volume also makes it a really dry ride. The extra width also makes it paddle slower and not glide so well.
My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
Where do you shop? The tamarack pro is $399.99 at Dicks and most other places, $380 a tractor supply co and I’m seeing the molten selling for $599-$699. The prices are the same or less than they were when this was filmed…
I absolutely love how you talk about and show the hulls of the kayaks you review so much of the time. So many "reviews" out there just go through the features and don't talk about the actual build and design of the yaks. Thank you!
Your videos got me into kayaking this year. Finding a kayak wasn’t the easiest though due to all going on in the world. Now that I know love the hobby I’m looking to upgrade into the Feelfree. Appreciate your videos and reviews!
I'm in a similar boat. Got into Kayaking in 2020 and Headwaters is a part of my inspiration. Started in a lifetime and picked up a Moken 14 at the end of this last summer. I'm impressed. I wanted the longer boat for the ocean around here in SE Alaska. You can't go wrong with the Feelfree Moken. The 12.5v2 is arguably the best deal on the water dollar for how much boat you get. Comfort is a huge factor in how enjoyable a day on the water is.
I upgraded from a cheap princess auto buffer/polisher to the dewalt after breaking the handle off. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxfzbDkCRyv3CFXnLZI4APZtRRuG2uRmP2 The dewalt is beyond rugged! It's super comfortable to use and the "D" handle has many options for holding onto it if you are working in weird positions. The electronic speed control is precise and it has a nice variable speed trigger for slow ramp up.I have upgraded to the 3m quick change setup and been using it for 3 years for reconditioning gel coat on boats. It's hard work for any machine and I've had no issues. If you need a machine that can put in serious work, this is the one you want. If you want to light buffing, on your car, this is not the machine for you. It's easy to control but you can get yourself in trouble very quickly if you don't know what you are doing.
Excellent review. Similar boats, but one is built down to a price and the other is built up to a standard. Nothing wrong with that, both seem fairly priced. So you get what you pay for with either one. I have met a lot of kayakers who were happy with their first “budget” boat, but are saving for a better one. I’m glad wife and I were able to skip that step and start with Eddyline. Life is short.
I find that the qualifying factors for any consideration is if I can put all of my rods, gear and myself on the yak without capsizing. lol Many of these budget yaks have a really low weight limit and a person doesn't really consider how much gear ways when you start loading things on. Let alone another 245 lbs. --- I think that I could handle one without all of the bells and whistles, but it seems to go hand in hand between price and capacity.
My advice is whatever kit you can afford, look after it, keep it clean and don't abuse it. It will last much longer. Always get the best paddle you can, cheaper ones tend to have less longevity.
The question then is how much more would a rudder kit add to the cost? I bet it's several hundred dollars because of the parst involved which would bring it out of the budget yak range. No?
I went kayaking for the first time in my life and I loved it. If I was amazed with those cheap rental ones, I can’t imagine all the fun with one of these. Def will buy one soon, following you now. great comparison between these two!!
Dan...I’m still shopping, but have watched now probably every one of your videos. I get the stink eye from my wife when I hint around I’d like to get a kayak, because I’m almost 70, retired, and so not much extra money for yet another hobby (I do have quite a few). I think my best bet...for me...for now...will be the Tamarack (non-Pro). I just want to fish ponds, backwaters, and slow rivers. Thanks so much for your thoughtful and insightful reviews!
Feelfree all day. For $250 more you're getting something much higher quality that will easily last twice as long as the Lifetime. Being pre-plumbed for a rudder is a big plus, and the wheel in the keel is a game changer. I thought it was stupid gimmick when I saw it online, but I love it on my Lure 11.5. Hopefully they move away from their proprietary gear rails in the future. I wish Feelfree would change their Moken molds to use the transducer pod and accept their pedal drive. I feel like a Moken 12.5 with a pedal drive being offered at the $1500-$1600 price point would one of the best values in the industry. And a Moken 14 with the current 30 inch width and a pedal drive would be an offshore machine and a Hobie revo competitor.
You do a really great job of going over the full boat on your walkthroughs; I just purchased a Moken 10 v2 here in Ohio and your video ( and others) helped me make my decision....your work beyond being a seller but a reviewer and content creator as well is greatly appreciated...
The biggest factor in choosing my tamarack pro was the weight and overall size. As a smaller guy I needed something I could easily get on and off the roof of my hatchback solo.
So I live in Utah and there are several Lifetime stores and the manufacturing plant near me. If you can get to a lifetime store it is considerably cheaper, I just got a Yukon for 399.97 at the lifetime store. which Im waiting on your review cause there are no real good reviews out there for it, Lifetime is starting to get into rotomolded kayaks you can check out the Lifetime Emotion Stealth Pro Angler 118 very similar to the feel free in this review and nearly the same price. ** I don't know if this is breaking news but Lifetime is coming out with a pedal drive kayak, the employees got to see pictures and got some information about it, looks like they are really starting to get serious about fishing kayaks. I'm new to the Kayak scene mostly because of fishing but this is my favorite TH-cam channel i bought a sevylor Colorado fishing kayak in May, the Yukon will be my 2nd. love this channel.
Yep I saw in another vid that Lifetime mentioned a peddle drive comming out. Ive got a yukon myself used it 2 summers now. Great boat for the $400 I paid for it.
Blow molding fn blows lol. I have to deal with blow molding in the automotive industry with Honda, Toyota and Subaru. I don't like it but I guess I'm good at it as an engineer
Aloha Dan. I'm in the market for a used kayak, but not either of these models. That said, I found this video to be very useful in identifying design features that I should be looking for when looking at various models. Just like your other videos I've seen, this was very helpful...and I really appreciate your practical approach to these reviews. Thank you.
I'm 6ft 250lbs and I love my Moken 10v2, my first kayak. I think its a great boat for the money especially when paired with a Bending Branches Angler Pro Plus paddle.
Have the moken 12.5 , don't weigh that much but wouldn't have it any other way. Same paddle, love it. I'm sure both will last my lifetime. ( unless I get lazy, can still put a trolling motor where my sonar pod is)) don't see that happening.
If you can make a kayak for 399 then why can't they make the hole for a drive at that price ? And let the buyer buy the drive separate ? but when they have a hole for the drive the price goes nuts why ? it's a basic kayak with a hole made for a drive. It doesn't make sense .
I did. Long story short this is Headwaters Redding which is owned by my buddy Bryan. He purchased it from our family last year. He still lets me hang out and film at his place.
I have the original Tamarack non pro version and it is ok. I had to get used to it as it felt like I was going to flip all the time but it never did. We tried to flip it once in 2 feet of water but it proved a lot more difficult than it feels. The one thing I found was the seat on it being attracted to the boat with plastic push plugs leak like crazy. Even in the rain it gets water in the hall. Glued those suckers closed. The paddle holder isn't like the pro so no leaking but I did go through all the screws and sealed them. Now here is the problem with it, I paid 249 for it two years ago and now they are going for 299 and 349. If I were in the market today I would save up to go from the standard Tamarack to the Pro and just hit everything with sealant.
I think the ascend d10 sit in kayak for 450 is a good deal, looks like a comfortable seat, I don't see many reviews, but the ones i do see, people like them.
I'm going to be buying 2 of the Lifetime Tamarack Pro's for my oldest grandsons, the boat is plenty big enough for both boys and for what we will be using them for. Thank you for continuing to do these videos and reviews, I enjoy watching them.
My friend just bought the Moken 10 V2 this past spring and she loves it! I love it as well but bought a sportsman 120 cuz im a lil heavier......lol But bang for the dollar, when they are on sale for $699 - you're just not gonna beat it for quality of build and bang for buck. The purple camo really snaps!
You were thorough in your review, Thank you for that. Given the number of garbage reviews on the internet yours is refreshing. You are clear and explain the differences clearly. Not sure I would buy either of these because I can afford a little more. But certainly the more expensive of these was clearly better. Even in this discussion you have pointed out the differences and helped me understand the differences and attributes of fishing kayaks. I have had a sit in 13 foot yak for several years. It worked well as kayak, but as I get older, it is getting hard to to in and out. My choice was and Old Town P160 , We will see how that works out. I will update.
I’m a new subscriber after watching your reviews of 5 earlier. I just ordered an Origami Paddler from Kickstarter because it folds up. Im 5’3” and didn’t think I could get a regular one on my roof rack. It was impossible to find a kayak here in Michigan last year so I thought I was being wise...oops. I like the Pelican Mustang that I just saw you review on the video I subscribed to. Went to Amazon and I see it weighs 36 pounds compared to the 45 pound Origami. I have a tent, mattress and other camping supplies and plan on having some adventures with my first ever kayak. Please help me with suggestions. I wish I would have seen your site before I did this. I’m a 66 senior and really wanted to enjoy camping this season. Thank you
Hey guys just bought this in Australia. Love watching your videos and wanted to get your thoughts on this kayak. Kings 2.85m Deluxe Single-Seat Kayak | 145kg Weight Rating | 100% Virgin HDPE. I paid $200 AUD but would love to hear what I’m missing.
Can't wait to see the Yukon review. It was all I could get because of COVID this summer. I still want a Big Fish 120, but I'll stick with the Yukon for one more year. Love the channel!
I have a V1 Moken 12.5. paid 600$ for it brand new when the V2's came out. I must say, the wheel in the keel that Feelfree puts on their kayaks has made me a Feelfree fan for life.
To your question in your description asking if it's worth the extra $250..... it all depends on your planned use. My kayak's are for just relaxing, padding around, and light fishing. My $230 Pelican 10ft boat only weighs 43lbs, does exactly what I wanted it for. So for me personally, No... not worth the extra cash.. I spent a little extra for a good Werner paddle($114). So for under $400 in total, I have a lightweight rig, and I have a blast. All those extras are not needed for myself personally.
I totally understand the weight limit being storage capacity. But if you can't put a 250lb guy in a 440lb weight limit kayak, how does the 250lb guy search for kayaks? Asking for a 250 lb girl I know. Or... One who won't divulge their weight and may go up or down a bit.
Hi I'm going from a inflatable x500 I'm torn between the wilderness tarpon and the FF moken. Love the wheel in the skeg and drawn to the moken lite 10 v2 but lots of people say skip both the 10 and 100 to go into a 12. What's your thoughts please?
Hunting plastic kayaks to put long outriggers on. We are seniors so really want very high seats. Our lakes require electric moters. We live in Iowa. Can you make any suggestions? Or tell us of a store that could help us? Thank you. Nov 14, 2023
Is it not true that one could spend a little more, say around $950, and get one that you would judge better than the FeelFree? Or, spend a little more, say around $1200 and get one better than that? The point is, many need to find their price point and buy something that will serve them just fine and not keep incrementally spending a little more simply because someone says it’s a little “better.” Some things are not necessarily “better,” for example the molded v. fastener secured handles. Personally, I have never had a handle fail on a kayak. Both those kayaks have far better seats than my 10 year old Hobie, but I’ve never upgraded my seat because it’s okay for me. You’re right, 14 scuppers is likely “overkill.” Frankly, I’m becoming more of a minimalist who prefers simplicity, but that’s just me. I don’t want more weight unless I know I need it. I enjoy your reviews and they have been helpful to me. Thank you. I just recommend that people give some thought to when is enough enough based on their personal situations and needs. Edit: now that I see Moken is 65lb, it’s out.
I am 5'2, 160Lbs. I am looking for a kayak that will accommodate my German Shepherd. Please advise. I'll only be on rivers and small lakes in Michigan... the mostly.
Hi sir I’m a rookie in fishing and I’m thinking to try a fishing kayak and I been watching ur videos about the reviews on kayaks,,just a question sir what size of kayak I should buy,,I’m like 180lbs 5’6 in height and don’t know what kind of kayak should I buy,,any tips and suggestions sir would be great,,by the way I’m fishing in of shore,
????. 300 pd total Capacity really thats garbage for a $400 kayak These kinda a rip off tbh ,, I got a field and stream eagle 12 That's a 12ft kayak , it can hold up to 500 pds and only weights 60 pds was $300 and those are $400 plus and there worse
I have a cheaper kayak and a Jackson. There's definitely more than $250 difference between the two in this video. Some of the differences can't even be seen or properly stated in these videos. You have to portage the kayaks over some distance (or rough terrain), kayak 4+ hours, etc.
I have been watching some guys in Argentina, they fish at river Plate (Rio de la Plata). They have added electrical motors to their Kayaks. Can you show one from here that would permit something of the sort? I loved your clip, really interesting as I have been wanting to acquire a boat for a long time. Thank you and regards.
I hate to break it to you but $649 is a budget Kayak as well most your wilderness systems run about $1100-$1500 and now there is that custom built because they have 10K kayaks feature on chad Hoovers site .
Thanks for the informative video. Do you have any recommendations for ocean/open water kayaks at the $300/$500/$750/$1,000 levels. Also any recommendations for portable (compact/foldable)/inflatable kayaks? Cheers.
i was going to get the Tamarack pro 103 but decided to go a little bigger to the Yukon, I picked it up this morning it will be a while before I can get it on the water but Im stoked.
@@mcrew26 you'll love it. I added an anchor trolley, cup holder, fish finder, 12v power bank with usb, navigation lights and a trolling motor. The yukon is definitely not a high dollar kayak but it's worth it!
Ive got a yukon. Used it 2 summers now. Awsome boat. Grabbed it for $400 at the time. Did a few mods like better paddle holders, anchor trolly, depth finder. All in all great stable boat.
I have the lifetime in this video an I paid over 600 dollars to have mine delivered an I have been extremely happy with it for the price mine is blue more stealthy than the other colors I'm 5-9 220 and I live in humboldt county I take mine in rivers lakes bay and ocean I have spent 6 plus hours at a time on it and I did not have much if any water go in threw the paddle holder I can say I wish I was able to get it for 400 I just couldn't find it at the time locally from a store
I have the Moken 10 v2 and it is one of the better budget kayaks made. I needed something that could actually fit in my mini van with the back hatch closed and the Moken fits. That being said, I am not a fan of the Feelfree rail system. Most of the accessories I want require an adapter and they rarely fit snug. The center console leaks like a sieve and really is useless for the most part. I would rather have nothing there to give me more standing room or have it come rigged for a depth finder. The pair of rails mounted near the stern serve no real purpose but to make it difficult to mount screw on accessories. Also, there is no easy way to access the inside of the hull. Maybe the v3 will address some of these issues. 😁
I have a sit in lifetime n had a sit on top..they are great, for the weight. I have Older model, I still am able to put it up on my car roof by myself. I can go drop it anywhere. So for us women, light is way to go. I will take the heavier kayak though.. and you if you want to lug it around for me. Jkjk
I'm looking for a sit on top with a great seat because my sit in kayak just hurts my old bones too much, and I need assitance getting in and out. Are fishing kayaks like these a good option for me as just a rec paddler? Thanks Dan!
Here's the problem with them plastic boats I wouldn't pay that much for a boat that was made with plastic recycled plastic of all things that people are pretty much handing to these companies for free I find this to be ignorant of most people these companies are taking advantage of your free trash and making a profit either they're more intelligent than most people are right down ignorant most people are but to pay that much for something they give for free doubtful I wouldn't pay that much no way .
A raised seat and open flat space in front is all you need. All that gimmicky extras is a waste. Toss it in the back of your truck with your paddle, poles, tackle, and go fishing.
Moken 10 is perfect for me, light, quality and 10 ft so I can just throw it in the back of the truck and tell the state to get fucked with their greedy ass registration.
Boys i love to yak but at what point do we all just go get a boat?? I mean you can get a fishing g boat for $500 new. Yea yea stickers and all but still.
Yeah that feel free seems to have bells and whistles i would not use. I never use the front well. Weight is an issue i don’t want such a heavy kayak to move. I never move the seat. Paddle holder should be on the side so i can get to it. The last thing is the propriety system. Even if i thought the kayak was great i won’t support a company that does that.
Id love to buy that 399 one since I just got one the same prince but not as nice but the main reason I go it is cuz its a folding kayak and I drive a 92 Miata lol.
that under set is for a single plastic tackle box if you just carry a little bit of tackle like a few extra weights and hooks. like you said mostly pointless
Very good review Dan! I’ll be curious to hear your thoughts on Lifetime Yukon. It was the only kayak I could get this summer and my first kayak. It’s been a good first boat for me. Looking forward are to more videos from you and really appreciate the content.
@@joecuillo5005 Kayaks can be expensive. I currently own a little over 20 (1/3 are broke, and I use them for extra welding plastic if I have a minor crack I can patch). Each one is a bit different for various uses.
I have had both but don't any longer have either. The moken 10.5 is head and shoulders above the lifetime. The lifetime is probably a better boat for a youth and really paddles better than the moken. The moken is really stable but a barge and spins when you quit paddling. It needs the rudder to live with it. I don't think of the lifetime as a fishing yak its more of a rec yak that you can fish from. It will go over quick when you reach back if you arent paying attention. No go with a bunch of expensive tackle and rods.
My lifetime went back because it showed up with two left foot rests and screws missing. Couldn't get parts from lifetime. They said they were shut down at the time because of covid. The moken was warrantied because it cracked behind the scuppers under the seat. Now I have a Moken 12.5 v2 and I am a happy camper. Skip both of these and get the moken 12.5. It is really worth the money. You can save on the rudder if you went with the 12.5.
Great feedback. I agree for not a lot more $ the Moken 12.5 paddles circles around the 10.
@Douglas Smith The moken can have the seat in a high or low position. The moken is quite a bit wider at the seat area. It's pretty stable to stand up in. The extra volume also makes it a really dry ride. The extra width also makes it paddle slower and not glide so well.
Maybe u could throw the agenda 10.5 in the mix
Acend
Went with the moken 12.5 from the get go. Love it.
My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
Coming at ya from 2024... They're 750 now. 😢
Not true. I just bought the Tamarack Pro at BiMart in southern Oregon today for $429.😉
Where do you shop? The tamarack pro is $399.99 at Dicks and most other places, $380 a tractor supply co and I’m seeing the molten selling for $599-$699. The prices are the same or less than they were when this was filmed…
Are you using a vpn? I had my server in Canada and was wondering why everything was so expensive then switched to USA and it was great
@@CatDaddySteve he’s talking about the more expensive one
I absolutely love how you talk about and show the hulls of the kayaks you review so much of the time. So many "reviews" out there just go through the features and don't talk about the actual build and design of the yaks. Thank you!
It's also great to get the opinion from an experienced paddler for sure. I bet he paddles a hundred miles a month.
Your videos got me into kayaking this year. Finding a kayak wasn’t the easiest though due to all going on in the world. Now that I know love the hobby I’m looking to upgrade into the Feelfree. Appreciate your videos and reviews!
Awesome. Welcome to the sport and thanks for watching.
I'm in a similar boat. Got into Kayaking in 2020 and Headwaters is a part of my inspiration. Started in a lifetime and picked up a Moken 14 at the end of this last summer. I'm impressed. I wanted the longer boat for the ocean around here in SE Alaska. You can't go wrong with the Feelfree Moken. The 12.5v2 is arguably the best deal on the water dollar for how much boat you get. Comfort is a huge factor in how enjoyable a day on the water is.
I upgraded from a cheap princess auto buffer/polisher to the dewalt after breaking the handle off. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxfzbDkCRyv3CFXnLZI4APZtRRuG2uRmP2 The dewalt is beyond rugged! It's super comfortable to use and the "D" handle has many options for holding onto it if you are working in weird positions. The electronic speed control is precise and it has a nice variable speed trigger for slow ramp up.I have upgraded to the 3m quick change setup and been using it for 3 years for reconditioning gel coat on boats. It's hard work for any machine and I've had no issues. If you need a machine that can put in serious work, this is the one you want. If you want to light buffing, on your car, this is not the machine for you. It's easy to control but you can get yourself in trouble very quickly if you don't know what you are doing.
Price literally doubled to $749 in 2 years lolol. So ridiculous how Amazon sellers(scammers) as soon as they get good reviews they hike up proces
Excellent review. Similar boats, but one is built down to a price and the other is built up to a standard. Nothing wrong with that, both seem fairly priced. So you get what you pay for with either one. I have met a lot of kayakers who were happy with their first “budget” boat, but are saving for a better one. I’m glad wife and I were able to skip that step and start with Eddyline. Life is short.
It's 2024 and the Lifetime kayak is now priced at $679 with no changes to the design. The Feelfree Moken 10 v2 is still $699.
you should check out the perception outlaw 11.5 awesome budget fishing kayak for us bigger guys
Yes that's what ended up with and I love it
Yep. My second yak and I'm thrilled with it. Will probably be my last
I find that the qualifying factors for any consideration is if I can put all of my rods, gear and myself on the yak without capsizing. lol Many of these budget yaks have a really low weight limit and a person doesn't really consider how much gear ways when you start loading things on. Let alone another 245 lbs. --- I think that I could handle one without all of the bells and whistles, but it seems to go hand in hand between price and capacity.
My advice is whatever kit you can afford, look after it, keep it clean and don't abuse it. It will last much longer. Always get the best paddle you can, cheaper ones tend to have less longevity.
I think the Lifetime Kayaks are great for entry level kayak fishing and for those who want to get started in Kayak Fishing
The lifetime Teton fishing Kayak proved to be a great first fishing kayak for 399.00 at Dicks!!! Fast and stable. A good platform.
It's 2023. Lifetime Tamarack Pro costs $639.
If so then better buy a moken 10 v2 I bought mine today for 769
Just bought the tamarack pro for $513 after tax
The added features seems to be well worth the added $250. I think the rudder kit would make it a top notch rig for a budget kayak.
The question then is how much more would a rudder kit add to the cost? I bet it's several hundred dollars because of the parst involved which would bring it out of the budget yak range. No?
Dang it! You might be correct!
I went kayaking for the first time in my life and I loved it. If I was amazed with those cheap rental ones, I can’t imagine all the fun with one of these. Def will buy one soon, following you now. great comparison between these two!!
So thankful for your comparisons. You do an excellent job.
Dan...I’m still shopping, but have watched now probably every one of your videos. I get the stink eye from my wife when I hint around I’d like to get a kayak, because I’m almost 70, retired, and so not much extra money for yet another hobby (I do have quite a few). I think my best bet...for me...for now...will be the Tamarack (non-Pro). I just want to fish ponds, backwaters, and slow rivers. Thanks so much for your thoughtful and insightful reviews!
Feelfree all day. For $250 more you're getting something much higher quality that will easily last twice as long as the Lifetime. Being pre-plumbed for a rudder is a big plus, and the wheel in the keel is a game changer. I thought it was stupid gimmick when I saw it online, but I love it on my Lure 11.5. Hopefully they move away from their proprietary gear rails in the future.
I wish Feelfree would change their Moken molds to use the transducer pod and accept their pedal drive. I feel like a Moken 12.5 with a pedal drive being offered at the $1500-$1600 price point would one of the best values in the industry. And a Moken 14 with the current 30 inch width and a pedal drive would be an offshore machine and a Hobie revo competitor.
You do a really great job of going over the full boat on your walkthroughs; I just purchased a Moken 10 v2 here in Ohio and your video ( and others) helped me make my decision....your work beyond being a seller but a reviewer and content creator as well is greatly appreciated...
You are missed, the best Kayak reviews on TH-cam
The biggest factor in choosing my tamarack pro was the weight and overall size. As a smaller guy I needed something I could easily get on and off the roof of my hatchback solo.
This guy says Hullavator like it a simple fix. Those things are like minimum 500 USED!!
So I live in Utah and there are several Lifetime stores and the manufacturing plant near me. If you can get to a lifetime store it is considerably cheaper, I just got a Yukon for 399.97 at the lifetime store. which Im waiting on your review cause there are no real good reviews out there for it, Lifetime is starting to get into rotomolded kayaks you can check out the Lifetime Emotion Stealth Pro Angler 118 very similar to the feel free in this review and nearly the same price. ** I don't know if this is breaking news but Lifetime is coming out with a pedal drive kayak, the employees got to see pictures and got some information about it, looks like they are really starting to get serious about fishing kayaks. I'm new to the Kayak scene mostly because of fishing but this is my favorite TH-cam channel i bought a sevylor Colorado fishing kayak in May, the Yukon will be my 2nd. love this channel.
Thanks Mark for the feedback and for watching the channel.
Yep I saw in another vid that Lifetime mentioned a peddle drive comming out. Ive got a yukon myself used it 2 summers now. Great boat for the $400 I paid for it.
Blow molding fn blows lol.
I have to deal with blow molding in the automotive industry with Honda, Toyota and Subaru. I don't like it but I guess I'm good at it as an engineer
Would love to see a review of the ascend 10t or hear your thoughts on the ascend line.
Or the 12t would be cool to see a review on
I dont think he does reviews anymore.
A new appreciation for the Moken 10’ ...Thanks Dan as always.
Aloha Dan. I'm in the market for a used kayak, but not either of these models. That said, I found this video to be very useful in identifying design features that I should be looking for when looking at various models. Just like your other videos I've seen, this was very helpful...and I really appreciate your practical approach to these reviews. Thank you.
I'm 6ft 250lbs and I love my Moken 10v2, my first kayak. I think its a great boat for the money especially when paired with a Bending Branches Angler Pro Plus paddle.
Have the moken 12.5 , don't weigh that much but wouldn't have it any other way. Same paddle, love it. I'm sure both will last my lifetime. ( unless I get lazy, can still put a trolling motor where my sonar pod is)) don't see that happening.
Looking forward to the review on the Lifetime Yukon. Also I like to know your opinion on the Vibe Sea 6host 110. Love the channel. ✌️
I just got my first kayak and it's a yukon (got a deal used). I'm excited to see your review of it that you mentioned you'd be doing in the future.
If you can make a kayak for 399 then why can't they make the hole for a drive at that price ? And let the buyer buy the drive separate ? but when they have a hole for the drive the price goes nuts why ? it's a basic kayak with a hole made for a drive. It doesn't make sense .
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I’d get the crescent ultra light.
Very informative review for those looking to start in kayak fishing.
Please review the vibe sea ghost 130. You’ve shown them briefly in the past but never a full detail and on the water review.
A Sea Ghost review would be awesome. 💯
I would to see you do an on the water review of the feel free.
I got a bigfish 105 for my first kayak 2 years ago and still love it, and its holding up very good.
Where do you find the Moken 10 v2 for that price 😭
If you’re in Ca I’ll sell you a demo for $600!
@@HeadwatersKayak I’m in California!! I’d love to purchase one can we talk more on email?
@@l3gitsh0ts for sure! info@headwaterskayak.com
@@HeadwatersKayak thank you so much!!
Good review. This helps a lot. Trying to pick out my first fishing kayak
Kevin Costner??
Side hustle when I’m between movies.
Brilliant video bro!...could not get tom hanks out of my head though 🤣
Dude I was JUST about to leave a comment along the lines of that. I need this man to do some regular Tom Hanks impressions!
I would prefer the Teton , because of length, and design.
I thought you closed your store and cleared out all inventory?
I did. Long story short this is Headwaters Redding which is owned by my buddy Bryan. He purchased it from our family last year. He still lets me hang out and film at his place.
I have the original Tamarack non pro version and it is ok. I had to get used to it as it felt like I was going to flip all the time but it never did. We tried to flip it once in 2 feet of water but it proved a lot more difficult than it feels. The one thing I found was the seat on it being attracted to the boat with plastic push plugs leak like crazy. Even in the rain it gets water in the hall. Glued those suckers closed. The paddle holder isn't like the pro so no leaking but I did go through all the screws and sealed them. Now here is the problem with it, I paid 249 for it two years ago and now they are going for 299 and 349. If I were in the market today I would save up to go from the standard Tamarack to the Pro and just hit everything with sealant.
Damn!! I wish this video was our 9 months ago!! I woulda bought the more expensive one. But I enjoy my lifetime!! Just that those extras are nice!!
I think the ascend d10 sit in kayak for 450 is a good deal, looks like a comfortable seat, I don't see many reviews, but the ones i do see, people like them.
I bought the lifetime tamarac 103 pro, an I love it. It tracks great. It's stable., seat is great.
I'm going to be buying 2 of the Lifetime Tamarack Pro's for my oldest grandsons, the boat is plenty big enough for both boys and for what we will be using them for. Thank you for continuing to do these videos and reviews, I enjoy watching them.
My friend just bought the Moken 10 V2 this past spring and she loves it! I love it as well but bought a sportsman 120 cuz im a lil heavier......lol But bang for the dollar, when they are on sale for $699 - you're just not gonna beat it for quality of build and bang for buck. The purple camo really snaps!
You were thorough in your review, Thank you for that. Given the number of garbage reviews on the internet yours is refreshing. You are clear and explain the differences clearly. Not sure I would buy either of these because I can afford a little more. But certainly the more expensive of these was clearly better. Even in this discussion you have pointed out the differences and helped me understand the differences and attributes of fishing kayaks. I have had a sit in 13 foot yak for several years. It worked well as kayak, but as I get older, it is getting hard to to in and out. My choice was and Old Town P160 , We will see how that works out. I will update.
I’m a new subscriber after watching your reviews of 5 earlier. I just ordered an Origami Paddler from Kickstarter because it folds up. Im 5’3” and didn’t think I could get a regular one on my roof rack. It was impossible to find a kayak here in Michigan last year so I thought I was being wise...oops. I like the Pelican Mustang that I just saw you review on the video I subscribed to. Went to Amazon and I see it weighs 36 pounds compared to the 45 pound Origami. I have a tent, mattress and other camping supplies and plan on having some adventures with my first ever kayak. Please help me with suggestions. I wish I would have seen your site before I did this. I’m a 66 senior and really wanted to enjoy camping this season. Thank you
I am 69 I purchased the lifetime tamarac pro 103, I love it seat is great, tracks very good, very stable. Weights 51 lbs.
Dude, you sound like Tom hanks
Hey guys just bought this in Australia. Love watching your videos and wanted to get your thoughts on this kayak.
Kings 2.85m Deluxe Single-Seat Kayak | 145kg Weight Rating | 100% Virgin HDPE. I paid $200 AUD but would love to hear what I’m missing.
Can't wait to see the Yukon review. It was all I could get because of COVID this summer. I still want a Big Fish 120, but I'll stick with the Yukon for one more year. Love the channel!
I have a V1 Moken 12.5. paid 600$ for it brand new when the V2's came out. I must say, the wheel in the keel that Feelfree puts on their kayaks has made me a Feelfree fan for life.
To your question in your description asking if it's worth the extra $250..... it all depends on your planned use. My kayak's are for just relaxing, padding around, and light fishing. My $230 Pelican 10ft boat only weighs 43lbs, does exactly what I wanted it for. So for me personally, No... not worth the extra cash.. I spent a little extra for a good Werner paddle($114). So for under $400 in total, I have a lightweight rig, and I have a blast. All those extras are not needed for myself personally.
I totally understand the weight limit being storage capacity. But if you can't put a 250lb guy in a 440lb weight limit kayak, how does the 250lb guy search for kayaks?
Asking for a 250 lb girl I know. Or... One who won't divulge their weight and may go up or down a bit.
Hi I'm going from a inflatable x500 I'm torn between the wilderness tarpon and the FF moken. Love the wheel in the skeg and drawn to the moken lite 10 v2 but lots of people say skip both the 10 and 100 to go into a 12. What's your thoughts please?
Hunting plastic kayaks to put long outriggers on. We are seniors so really want very high seats. Our lakes require electric moters. We live in Iowa. Can you make any suggestions? Or tell us of a store that could help us? Thank you. Nov 14, 2023
Is it not true that one could spend a little more, say around $950, and get one that you would judge better than the FeelFree? Or, spend a little more, say around $1200 and get one better than that? The point is, many need to find their price point and buy something that will serve them just fine and not keep incrementally spending a little more simply because someone says it’s a little “better.” Some things are not necessarily “better,” for example the molded v. fastener secured handles. Personally, I have never had a handle fail on a kayak. Both those kayaks have far better seats than my 10 year old Hobie, but I’ve never upgraded my seat because it’s okay for me. You’re right, 14 scuppers is likely “overkill.” Frankly, I’m becoming more of a minimalist who prefers simplicity, but that’s just me. I don’t want more weight unless I know I need it. I enjoy your reviews and they have been helpful to me. Thank you. I just recommend that people give some thought to when is enough enough based on their personal situations and needs.
Edit: now that I see Moken is 65lb, it’s out.
I am 5'2, 160Lbs. I am looking for a kayak that will accommodate my German Shepherd. Please advise. I'll only be on rivers and small lakes in Michigan... the mostly.
Hi sir I’m a rookie in fishing and I’m thinking to try a fishing kayak and I been watching ur videos about the reviews on kayaks,,just a question sir what size of kayak I should buy,,I’m like 180lbs 5’6 in height and don’t know what kind of kayak should I buy,,any tips and suggestions sir would be great,,by the way I’m fishing in of shore,
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I am a bigger guy, 6'2" 294 lbs. Would you recommend the Feel Free Moken in this video or perhaps a different one?
I’d go for something bigger if you’re close to 300. I think you’ll feel too heavy in a Moken 10. Check out a 3 Waters Big Fish 105
????. 300 pd total Capacity really thats garbage for a $400 kayak
These kinda a rip off tbh ,, I got a field and stream eagle 12
That's a 12ft kayak , it can hold up to 500 pds and only weights 60 pds was $300 and those are $400 plus and there worse
I have a cheaper kayak and a Jackson. There's definitely more than $250 difference between the two in this video. Some of the differences can't even be seen or properly stated in these videos. You have to portage the kayaks over some distance (or rough terrain), kayak 4+ hours, etc.
I have been watching some guys in Argentina, they fish at river Plate (Rio de la Plata). They have added electrical motors to their Kayaks. Can you show one from here that would permit something of the sort? I loved your clip, really interesting as I have been wanting to acquire a boat for a long time. Thank you and regards.
I hate to break it to you but $649 is a budget Kayak as well most your wilderness systems run about $1100-$1500 and now there is that custom built because they have 10K kayaks feature on chad Hoovers site
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Thanks for the informative video. Do you have any recommendations for ocean/open water kayaks at the $300/$500/$750/$1,000 levels. Also any recommendations for portable (compact/foldable)/inflatable kayaks? Cheers.
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any chance to review POINT 65 foldable kayak please? people say it is a bit thin and fragile......😄😄
Wish I would’ve seen this earlier but I already ordered the Tamarack Pro. It was a good deal though, $313 shipped.
Where did you buy the Pro?
Looking forward to the Yukon review. I have a tamarack right now but am planning to upgrade in the spring
i was going to get the Tamarack pro 103 but decided to go a little bigger to the Yukon, I picked it up this morning it will be a while before I can get it on the water but Im stoked.
@@mcrew26 you'll love it. I added an anchor trolley, cup holder, fish finder, 12v power bank with usb, navigation lights and a trolling motor. The yukon is definitely not a high dollar kayak but it's worth it!
Ive got a yukon. Used it 2 summers now. Awsome boat. Grabbed it for $400 at the time. Did a few mods like better paddle holders, anchor trolly, depth finder. All in all great stable boat.
I have the lifetime in this video an I paid over 600 dollars to have mine delivered an I have been extremely happy with it for the price mine is blue more stealthy than the other colors I'm 5-9 220 and I live in humboldt county I take mine in rivers lakes bay and ocean I have spent 6 plus hours at a time on it and I did not have much if any water go in threw the paddle holder I can say I wish I was able to get it for 400 I just couldn't find it at the time locally from a store
I have the Moken 10 v2 and it is one of the better budget kayaks made. I needed something that could actually fit in my mini van with the back hatch closed and the Moken fits. That being said, I am not a fan of the Feelfree rail system. Most of the accessories I want require an adapter and they rarely fit snug. The center console leaks like a sieve and really is useless for the most part. I would rather have nothing there to give me more standing room or have it come rigged for a depth finder. The pair of rails mounted near the stern serve no real purpose but to make it difficult to mount screw on accessories. Also, there is no easy way to access the inside of the hull. Maybe the v3 will address some of these issues. 😁
I have a sit in lifetime n had a sit on top..they are great, for the weight. I have Older model, I still am able to put it up on my car roof by myself. I can go drop it anywhere. So for us women, light is way to go. I will take the heavier kayak though.. and you if you want to lug it around for me. Jkjk
Buyer beware !!!
Feelfree kayak bottoms haul design makes it easier for flipping over, I got rid of mine because of that reason.
I'm looking for a sit on top with a great seat because my sit in kayak just hurts my old bones too much, and I need assitance getting in and out. Are fishing kayaks like these a good option for me as just a rec paddler? Thanks Dan!
What are your recommendations for a kayak for a 300lb guy on an extreme budget that is getting into kayak fishing?
Honest reviews, even if you don't sell the kayak. Honesty IS the best policy. 👍👍
Looking for best paddler for a lower bad back. Especially the tailbone.
I think the bungee under the seat on the Tamarack is for two 3500 Plano trays. They’re only 1 inch thick.
Here's the problem with them plastic boats I wouldn't pay that much for a boat that was made with plastic recycled plastic of all things that people are pretty much handing to these companies for free I find this to be ignorant of most people these companies are taking advantage of your free trash and making a profit either they're more intelligent than most people are right down ignorant most people are but to pay that much for something they give for free doubtful I wouldn't pay that much no way .
A raised seat and open flat space in front is all you need. All that gimmicky extras is a waste. Toss it in the back of your truck with your paddle, poles, tackle, and go fishing.
Great video! Spend a little more money to get a more quality and better Kayak for your money! Thanks again Dan.
Moken 10 is perfect for me, light, quality and 10 ft so I can just throw it in the back of the truck and tell the state to get fucked with their greedy ass registration.
Dan, Tamarack Pro or Vibe Yellowfin 100? I would like the lightest one.
I have the tamarack and love it ! Awesome recreation kayak , very sturdy and won’t break the bank
Boys i love to yak but at what point do we all just go get a boat?? I mean you can get a fishing g boat for $500 new. Yea yea stickers and all but still.
Yeah that feel free seems to have bells and whistles i would not use. I never use the front well. Weight is an issue i don’t want such a heavy kayak to move. I never move the seat. Paddle holder should be on the side so i can get to it. The last thing is the propriety system. Even if i thought the kayak was great i won’t support a company that does that.
I would love to have the green one for $6?? I love the setup better Do you take Trade in on my Mana Ray 14 my I has all the works on it
Green kayak have a good height and the fantastic seat much better for you back for a long day Fishing
Dont fish but if feasible, would purchase the higher quality kayak.
Great white sharks prefer the more expensive cuts while hammerheads will eat just about anything you out on a plate.
Id love to buy that 399 one since I just got one the same prince but not as nice but the main reason I go it is cuz its a folding kayak and I drive a 92 Miata lol.
Even the cheap one is way out of my budget, so I'm going inflatable and modding the crap out of it.
that under set is for a single plastic tackle box if you just carry a little bit of tackle like a few extra weights and hooks. like you said mostly pointless
Very good review Dan! I’ll be curious to hear your thoughts on Lifetime Yukon. It was the only kayak I could get this summer and my first kayak. It’s been a good first boat for me. Looking forward are to more videos from you and really appreciate the content.
my wife has one, its very nice.
I was given a saltwater kayak and it might not have any of these bells and whistles but ill take a free one over a overpriced peice of plastic anyday.
Did you ever end up reviewing the lifetime Yukon?
I was looking at both boats. I ended up with the feel free, because of the wheel and the better features.
I pay $1500 every 6 months for a kayak after I break them, and they don't have any of these comforts😢
@@pharma37 get a bonafied you prolly won't keep breaking them. Too much money to spend twice a year
@@joecuillo5005 I have a short video of how I use a kayak on my page. You'll soon realize why I break them.
@@joecuillo5005 Kayaks can be expensive. I currently own a little over 20 (1/3 are broke, and I use them for extra welding plastic if I have a minor crack I can patch). Each one is a bit different for various uses.
Anyone heard of "the kayaks shop?" Still waiting for my order
I like the 649 one, I am looking to get a fishing kayak very soon.
Or I have a bass hunter 2 I bought for 200 bucks with a 100 dollar trolling motor that I like a shit ton more