I’m glad Jeremy is here to tell you the mindset of foreign artists towards Jamaican artists. As someone who lives in the states I can tell you that they don’t care about dancehall artists as much as unu care bout them. Harsh truth.
No, they dont respect our culture. And the only reason why this is a conversation is because our ideal of success is defined by them and their industry. Once we change our VALUES, this whole conversation changes.
DMX who was on a dancehall collab came out and said he doesn't listen dancehall he doesn't dig it. So I'm glad Sean Paul slighted him when he reached out for a remix on gimmie di light and did something with Busta who shows more appreciation for the cultre instead.
Perform in Africa where you are loved. Afrobeat loves the dancehall community. Look at our collabs. Kranium and Tiwa Savage. Davido and Popcaan. Pandoraking says he is a dancehall artist and inspired by Jamaican dancehall. WizKid and Vybz Kartel. Stoneboy has collaborated with many of our artists. Most of all, they respect us and our music.
N A most Africans know more than one language. The language doesn’t even matter. They just love the way that our music sounds. As a matter of fact, many European countries that do not speak English are were many dancehall artists make lots of money.
There seems to be a total disregard of Jamaican-born and Jamaican-descended artists who have always worked hand and glove with dancehall artists. Heavy D was one such example. Heavy D didn't chase trends though, he built his own. It's just a shame that he is no longer around.
Great guest! I found his points to be quite insightful. What he said about Dancehall music only being appreciated in markets where the diaspora is prominent makes a lot of sense. I can understand now why purely Dancehall records rarely get mass appeal across all of N.A unless the song is in a collaboration between a Pop Artist or Hip Hop Artist and a Dancehall Artist or if the sound is co-opted by a main stream artist like Justin Bieber and rebranded as a “new genre” like Tropical House. The point he made about Jamaican culture being synonymous with Urban culture in Toronto is also true in my experience being a native of Toronto and being of partial Jamaican ancestry.
THE POINT OF IT ALL IS......THERE IS HARDLY ANY JAMAICAN ARTIST WHO WANTS TO KNOW THE BUSINESS OF MUSIC, THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THE REAL $$ IS !! THEY THINK IT'S ABOUT FLOSSIN' AND MUSIC VIDEOS, GIRLS AND VIEWS. THIS IS WHY OTHERS WILL ALWAYS DO BETTER ! THIS IS WHY JAMAICANS WILL ALWAYS TRY TO BRANCH OUT IN THE STATES! TOO MUCH SYSTEMIC INFIGHTING ! WTF...LET'S BE HONEST...JAMAICANS DO NOT BUY THE ARTISTS ALBUMS EITHER !
Instead of vying for US attention, let's make our own industry, our own awards shows, start within the region utilize the 40 million ppl within the Caribbean that actually appreciate the culture, instead of being groupies for the US market bcuz all they do is take from the culture then disregard us afterwards.
@@GAZAMAN93X Honestly, I have no idea. It just sort of faded. I don't even know or remember who produced it. I just remember seeing it on TV in the 90s and thinking it was great because it featured reggae, soca, calypso, salsa and merengue and other Caribbean musical acts. Too bad because there seemed to be a unifying spirit on stage. Imagine where the music and artists could be had that continued. Actually, faded is probably not the proper way to describe it. It was gone in a flash after a promising start. One problem could have been the lack of promotion. I accidentally tuned in while channel surfing and I used to keep up with the music scene back then.
Why did you cut the last part of the interview? That was particularly interesting, about the way in which Spotify and the streaming services gather user intelligence which in turn allows them to further monetise these services. Is there another part to this?
I can remember when the notorious b.i.g perform in Jamaica for the first time and said what up niggas and was booed.when am in Jamaica I hear all these young people referring to each other as niggas and listenening to to hip hop and they can understand a word they saying for it's street slang and country slangs people most of black America don't understand what they are saying either.
Speaking as a person of Jamaican heritage who grew up in the U.S., no self-respecting Jamaican truly rates Hot 97, lol. You want to know why 90s dancehall still snaps? Because Jamaican artists were not following what America did, sure they paid attention but they weren't trying to make dancehall EDM (no offense). It's just a shame that we lost Heavy D and Biggie, who loved Jamaican music and culture. Also, Jamaican artists need to be a bit more discerning with whom they work with, work with some musicians and artists and not the ones into the quick fix, looking for the short $$$ on microwave music with no enduring quality (are there even any riddims made today that will have the longevity of the 'Sleng Teng riddim?) with short term thinking. Work with people who love and respect the music. Also, in the 90s, dancehall, lovers rock (Beres, Nadine Sutherland, Pam Hall, etc.) and roots (Israel Vibrations' Rude Boy Shuffling was a big hit in the U.S.) alternated in having hits...recognize that dancehall can't always be on top. But yeah, Hot 97 was marginal for reggae/dancehall in the 90s, it was KISS FM, WBLS, 93.5 FM/Irie Jam, Gil Bailey (R.I.P.), Ken Williams, Milford Edwards, Earl Chin, etc. who have genuine love for Jamaican culture. Even Dahved Levy (Bajan) Bobby Konders and Jabba were upstarts compared to these guys. Hot 97 and 'em always had a hand out, seeking profit from Jamaican music and most of us recognized that.
most African Americans look down on black immigrants the moment u say anything bad about america they will tell u if u dont like it go back to your country they do to immigrants what whit people do to them.so they dont want immigrant artists from a small market like the Caribbean to get there spce but Africa has a bigger market so if they come there is a better chance for them, and jamaicans talk loud and them nuh like that
Him right pon most topic but off wid di cross over part. Nuff Ja’cans deh a Virginia/Norfolk/Newport News/Richmond and those areas are a wide part a VA. Seperate and apart from that a lot a J’cans deh a Jacksonville, Georgia, S/N Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, then unto New Jersey and New York. So that’s basically the whole East cost. A next thing again a lot of J’cans are in Ohio and Detroit (Michigan) and also Chicago. I understand he Probly just talking in general but if he follow the dancehall (Bookings) he would notice a lot of artiste going to those places that I’ve name and ppl naah book Dancehall artist fi country western listen dem a must a heavy Jamaican contingent deh a dem place deh...
americans care about america ,in America dancehall is a flavor u will get a one song or couple songs back to back inna mix in boston or if u listen the reggae station that u can only pick up in the city . dancehall is mostly played in the club when a wine up time dem luv dat but dem nuh wah u come tek up there space
Might be the best episode of the year. I agree 💯 first world countries don’t want to hear violence and sex in music. I just listen the popcaan album and I don’t know why they insist on doing all this Badman trune dem. Look like they don’t learn anything from shaggy and the Marleys or even koffee.
The one thing i dont agree with is saying certain Americans are ignorant to reggae and that explains their disrespect. The exclusion is intentional. Music consumers can recognize that Chris Brown's lurkin is dancehall influenced. Gwen Stefani, Magic, Ed Sheran, Sia, Sting etc have sold reggae everywhere (i realize they are all white). Artist like Skip Marley have universal appeal. Jamaican artists have to not be grateful but demand a seat at the table. Or create their own table. The question is how to do that?
After listening Nas King's Disease which he pays homage to Louie Rankin aka "Ox"; that body of work there is timeless; and if you are a Trap/Dancehall artist, you need to study the composition of why that body of work will go down as certified classic. You make music with emphasis of reaching beyond your border walls; you talk about issues that everyone can relate to; you keep vulgarity to a minimum; you promote your country and it's positive peoples. You collab with other Artist that will elevate your audience....Just my 2cents....and get your papers right...
True, cause I have to buy Vybz kartel- Dons and divas off Amazon. Spotify ain't working, apple I'm not into. Jamaican artiste need to let them projects available on Amazon, cause anybody can go on Amazon to buy their projects and they need to sell their stuff with merch.
Look back at your first Verses of Bounty and Beene and see the narrative U were portraying when everyone was speaking of how they were being used🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Where’s part 2?, this is important information. Ultimately I blame the JA govt for not putting these laws in place. I have heard of JA musicians complaining before about the lack of infrastructure. JA needs to value its cultural export. Saying this, JA musicians need to educate themselves about the business and the protocols of the industry if longevity is to be obtained.
Suh ummm..... if jeremy neva fawud and say dem rapper bwoy deh nuh rate our music nuh body couldn’t figure it out?? It doesn’t work tek a rocket scientist fi see that, them just see us as outsiders and we not suppose to be amongst them, we should be looking to the uk b4 a record hits in north America it hits in the uk and Europe b4 bredda but ohh well mek mi shut my mouth wid my likkle bit a money 😂
I was saying same dam thang they can’t send the cover out whitout they knowing and these fils cussing billboard Jamaica people need to start think smartly
Yo Jeremy need to be a frequent guest. The man speaks FACTS but him have some jokes. Nice vibe
Saaid the saaame thing!...man full of knowledge about the music business locally and internationally
SubXerO WinZ he managed Sean Paul plus produced some riddims
JH made Playground riddim
Jeremy should be apart of this regularly
Him no have time fi that
I’m glad Jeremy is here to tell you the mindset of foreign artists towards Jamaican artists. As someone who lives in the states I can tell you that they don’t care about dancehall artists as much as unu care bout them. Harsh truth.
Bro ..most time ..you can't play a bad chune fi nuhbody neeven u ooman ....dey are not bothered with 🇯🇲 artistes
Especially if you have to translate
Ammmmm So Jeremy Harding have a buzz. Yeh!
Great interview a lot of information was given... no lie
No, they dont respect our culture. And the only reason why this is a conversation is because our ideal of success is defined by them and their industry. Once we change our VALUES, this whole conversation changes.
ShakaRaSpeaks I won't blame ill just experience ill know what to do with it
DMX who was on a dancehall collab came out and said he doesn't listen dancehall he doesn't dig it. So I'm glad Sean Paul slighted him when he reached out for a remix on gimmie di light and did something with Busta who shows more appreciation for the cultre instead.
we spoke to him about this as well on the full podcast. You can listen it here: bit.ly/2Q54TZ8
Coke ead dmx badmine
Big up Jeremy,,, intelligent guy ‼️
Very
Rate da bredda ya
Perform in Africa where you are loved. Afrobeat loves the dancehall community. Look at our collabs. Kranium and Tiwa Savage. Davido and Popcaan. Pandoraking says he is a dancehall artist and inspired by Jamaican dancehall. WizKid and Vybz Kartel. Stoneboy has collaborated with many of our artists. Most of all, they respect us and our music.
Exactly. Ppl gwan like America is the only place in the world
It depends. Maybe english speaking countries care. But the french, arabic, and portuguese speaking countries do not care
But they should deffo try africa
N A They do care. Ivory Coast and Cameroon are some of the largest dancehall consumers.
N A most Africans know more than one language. The language doesn’t even matter. They just love the way that our music sounds. As a matter of fact, many European countries that do not speak English are were many dancehall artists make lots of money.
I like how Mr Harding is explaining the American culture because alot of these people don't understand how it work.
Excellent interview
we don't get the respect we deserve because dancehall lacks respect for itself!
LOVE THIS! MORE OF THIS CONTENT PLEASE
I understand the overall sentiment of this video, but there was so much context and nuance left out of this conversation.
There seems to be a total disregard of Jamaican-born and Jamaican-descended artists who have always worked hand and glove with dancehall artists. Heavy D was one such example. Heavy D didn't chase trends though, he built his own. It's just a shame that he is no longer around.
NEED these kinda interviews. Big up Jeremy
Great guest! I found his points to be quite insightful. What he said about Dancehall music only being appreciated in markets where the diaspora is prominent makes a lot of sense. I can understand now why purely Dancehall records rarely get mass appeal across all of N.A unless the song is in a collaboration between a Pop Artist or Hip Hop Artist and a Dancehall Artist or if the sound is co-opted by a main stream artist like Justin Bieber and rebranded as a “new genre” like Tropical House.
The point he made about Jamaican culture being synonymous with Urban culture in Toronto is also true in my experience being a native of Toronto and being of partial Jamaican ancestry.
Facts🔥
THE POINT OF IT ALL IS......THERE IS HARDLY ANY JAMAICAN ARTIST WHO WANTS TO KNOW THE BUSINESS OF MUSIC, THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THE REAL $$ IS !! THEY THINK IT'S ABOUT FLOSSIN' AND MUSIC VIDEOS, GIRLS AND VIEWS. THIS IS WHY OTHERS WILL ALWAYS DO BETTER ! THIS IS WHY JAMAICANS WILL ALWAYS TRY TO BRANCH OUT IN THE STATES! TOO MUCH SYSTEMIC INFIGHTING ! WTF...LET'S BE HONEST...JAMAICANS DO NOT BUY THE ARTISTS ALBUMS EITHER !
This was a really good video. Great insight with details.
Need more interviews like this
Knowledgeable man like dis mi like pon di program
Instead of vying for US attention, let's make our own industry, our own awards shows, start within the region utilize the 40 million ppl within the Caribbean that actually appreciate the culture, instead of being groupies for the US market bcuz all they do is take from the culture then disregard us afterwards.
There used to be a Caribbean music awards show, it's really a shame that it only lasted a few years.
The music industry is now so fragmented that there isn't much of a U.S. market anyway.
The numbers you see is only us so the us market is necessary
@@MsAgentprovocateur10 what happened to it?
@@GAZAMAN93X Honestly, I have no idea. It just sort of faded. I don't even know or remember who produced it. I just remember seeing it on TV in the 90s and thinking it was great because it featured reggae, soca, calypso, salsa and merengue and other Caribbean musical acts. Too bad because there seemed to be a unifying spirit on stage. Imagine where the music and artists could be had that continued.
Actually, faded is probably not the proper way to describe it. It was gone in a flash after a promising start. One problem could have been the lack of promotion. I accidentally tuned in while channel surfing and I used to keep up with the music scene back then.
Best interview I have watched in awhile 👍
Like the reasoning, gud one FIX. 💯👍🔥
Love and appreciate all the insight from Jeremy need more interviews like these. Blessings Jeremy and thank for all you've done to help our culture.
Great interview......always great when the industry insiders can tell you things plain and straight.
Jeremy speaking pure facts
Bless up Jeremy gwaan dweet
Yow this was a lot of info and I really appreciate this one
Learn so much
Education on the music business really should be a consistent segment
Best person to get Alot of insights from. Big up to Jeremy
The was good. I could have watched hours of this one.
More Jeremy Harding please at least every couple.episodes
Learnt A lot... very informative
I pay for a streaming service.....most persons I know don’t. However I do see where more persons jumping on. I hope this trend continues.
Need more interviews like this!
Why did you cut the last part of the interview? That was particularly interesting, about the way in which Spotify and the streaming services gather user intelligence which in turn allows them to further monetise these services. Is there another part to this?
Listen the entire podcast on SoundCloud and Spotify
This interview needs to be like 2 hours👍
justin timberlake is considered hiphop?
pop and contemporary rnb
Dat mi wa know , dis sound like an isolated incident
Id love to see a Caribbean music award show televised. A lot of the other big genres have huge award shows to highlight their talent.
Dancehall was before Hip Hop. Plus its the Jamaican Legend Kool Herc is the Godfather of Hip Hop music. Facts
Jeremy mad funnny and speaking FACTS TOO great interview
Swizz and Tim said that make them into the same room at the same time 🔥🔥🔥
I can remember when the notorious b.i.g perform in Jamaica for the first time and said what up niggas and was booed.when am in Jamaica I hear all these young people referring to each other as niggas and listenening to to hip hop and they can understand a word they saying for it's street slang and country slangs people most of black America don't understand what they are saying either.
Speaking as a person of Jamaican heritage who grew up in the U.S., no self-respecting Jamaican truly rates Hot 97, lol. You want to know why 90s dancehall still snaps? Because Jamaican artists were not following what America did, sure they paid attention but they weren't trying to make dancehall EDM (no offense). It's just a shame that we lost Heavy D and Biggie, who loved Jamaican music and culture. Also, Jamaican artists need to be a bit more discerning with whom they work with, work with some musicians and artists and not the ones into the quick fix, looking for the short $$$ on microwave music with no enduring quality (are there even any riddims made today that will have the longevity of the 'Sleng Teng riddim?) with short term thinking. Work with people who love and respect the music. Also, in the 90s, dancehall, lovers rock (Beres, Nadine Sutherland, Pam Hall, etc.) and roots (Israel Vibrations' Rude Boy Shuffling was a big hit in the U.S.) alternated in having hits...recognize that dancehall can't always be on top. But yeah, Hot 97 was marginal for reggae/dancehall in the 90s, it was KISS FM, WBLS, 93.5 FM/Irie Jam, Gil Bailey (R.I.P.), Ken Williams, Milford Edwards, Earl Chin, etc. who have genuine love for Jamaican culture. Even Dahved Levy (Bajan) Bobby Konders and Jabba were upstarts compared to these guys. Hot 97 and 'em always had a hand out, seeking profit from Jamaican music and most of us recognized that.
Ken williams is mah. Ole cuzzin ..real.tawk
Gil Bailey and Dahved Levy, The sound of my childhood. RIP to Gil Bailey
most African Americans look down on black immigrants the moment u say anything bad about america they will tell u if u dont like it go back to your country they do to immigrants what whit people do to them.so they dont want immigrant artists from a small market like the Caribbean to get there spce but Africa has a bigger market so if they come there is a better chance for them, and jamaicans talk loud and them nuh like that
True
Listen to use one's image & likeness ya gotta sign a release form...
Swizz & Tim knew
Him right pon most topic but off wid di cross over part. Nuff Ja’cans deh a Virginia/Norfolk/Newport News/Richmond and those areas are a wide part a VA. Seperate and apart from that a lot a J’cans deh a Jacksonville, Georgia, S/N Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, then unto New Jersey and New York. So that’s basically the whole East cost.
A next thing again a lot of J’cans are in Ohio and Detroit (Michigan) and also Chicago. I understand he Probly just talking in general but if he follow the dancehall (Bookings) he would notice a lot of artiste going to those places that I’ve name and ppl naah book Dancehall artist fi country western listen dem a must a heavy Jamaican contingent deh a dem place deh...
americans care about america ,in America dancehall is a flavor u will get a one song or couple songs back to back inna mix in boston or if u listen the reggae station that u can only pick up in the city . dancehall is mostly played in the club when a wine up time dem luv dat but dem nuh wah u come tek up there space
Might be the best episode of the year. I agree 💯 first world countries don’t want to hear violence and sex in music. I just listen the popcaan album and I don’t know why they insist on doing all this Badman trune dem. Look like they don’t learn anything from shaggy and the Marleys or even koffee.
That's not true look at cardi b new song
Put Kranium inna him place yes..Bwoy wukless and a blame old heads...
The one thing i dont agree with is saying certain Americans are ignorant to reggae and that explains their disrespect. The exclusion is intentional. Music consumers can recognize that Chris Brown's lurkin is dancehall influenced. Gwen Stefani, Magic, Ed Sheran, Sia, Sting etc have sold reggae everywhere (i realize they are all white). Artist like Skip Marley have universal appeal. Jamaican artists have to not be grateful but demand a seat at the table. Or create their own table. The question is how to do that?
Jeremy's constant twitching of the nose and face is messing with my OCD.
Jeremy u large...Fix unuh ting konnek
After listening Nas King's Disease which he pays homage to Louie Rankin aka "Ox"; that body of work there is timeless; and if you are a Trap/Dancehall artist, you need to study the composition of why that body of work will go down as certified classic. You make music with emphasis of reaching beyond your border walls; you talk about issues that everyone can relate to; you keep vulgarity to a minimum; you promote your country and it's positive peoples. You collab with other Artist that will elevate your audience....Just my 2cents....and get your papers right...
True, cause I have to buy Vybz kartel- Dons and divas off Amazon. Spotify ain't working, apple I'm not into. Jamaican artiste need to let them projects available on Amazon, cause anybody can go on Amazon to buy their projects and they need to sell their stuff with merch.
Very insightful. Why is Jamaican Medi promoting hip hop music so much.
Look back at your first Verses of Bounty and Beene and see the narrative U were portraying when everyone was speaking of how they were being used🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Where’s part 2?, this is important information. Ultimately I blame the JA govt for not putting these laws in place. I have heard of JA musicians complaining before about the lack of infrastructure. JA needs to value its cultural export.
Saying this, JA musicians need to educate themselves about the business and the protocols of the industry if longevity is to be obtained.
Same way a local artist pop at 2 Harding studio a the same treatment them come off with.........so it's jus a black people thing
Big up Ari luv yuh si
Suh ummm..... if jeremy neva fawud and say dem rapper bwoy deh nuh rate our music nuh body couldn’t figure it out?? It doesn’t work tek a rocket scientist fi see that, them just see us as outsiders and we not suppose to be amongst them, we should be looking to the uk b4 a record hits in north America it hits in the uk and Europe b4 bredda but ohh well mek mi shut my mouth wid my likkle bit a money 😂
This should say in Jamaica + why does hip-hop have to help dancehall?? #curious
who is th artiste in qustion? who had the new york deal??
Kranium
Yo naro pre timberland expression each time swiss a try give dancehall ratings. Check how him go round it nothing nuh genuine yo
And Alesha is of Jamaican even
First view and comment 😂 lol bless up fam ⚡️⚡️
I was saying same dam thang they can’t send the cover out whitout they knowing and these fils cussing billboard Jamaica people need to start think smartly
Jeremy Harding getting old...#Legend
Jeremy N Trippple X Fi turn host fi da show ya ca either one a dem have more sense dan 3 a unno combined much less e two a dem together
Hate to agree cuz mi love Ari and Javi.But they would be more insightful and spirited to get more views.