Three things to note… 1) Tongues in the Bible are NEVER (not even once) anything other than another human language. 2) Tongues in the Bible are NEVER prayed privately, only between an individual and God. They are always spoken/prayed in the presence of others, FOR their edification. 3) The Bible teaches that tongues must ALWAYS have an interpreter, in EVERY instance!
On point 3, if this is an intelligible human language, such as me as an Englishman speaking Chinese although I've never learned the language, why would an interpreter be needed? The whole point of what happened in Acts 2 is that people from various parts of the world WOULD have needed an interpreter to understand what these Galilaeans were saying, but because of God giving them the ability to speak other languages, an interpreter was not needed.
The Bible calls tongues "the tongues of men and angels" I Corinthians 13:1. "For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries." I Corinthians 14:2 If tongues were readily understandable they would not need interpretation. Mark 16:17 says, "And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;"
@@shaunhunterit342 The Bible calls tongues the "tongues of men and angels", not the tongues of men only. I speak in tongues. I have prayed for interpretation but have not yet received that understanding. So tongues are always intelligent, they are languages and therefore were created by Yahuah. Yet they are also a mystery when we don't understand them.
@@shaunhunterit342 The tongues would be for the person/persons that speak another language or other languages; but the interpreter would be for those who the Spirit was not addressing.
There are some denominations that put speaking in tongues above the Word!!!!!I use to attend a church that taught if you didn't speak in tongues your not saved!!!!! Such egregious/ erroneous teaching!!!!!!!
Any teaching that start go forgot about Jesus sacrifice in the cross definitely go error The other form of it is by saying someone must get saved by doing works for God When Salvation is gift, carry the cross is the work so later we get reward that being mention in Revelation, about the crowns Salvation being design so in order no one can boast that they get saved by such mean that doesnt need Jesus But many forgot about it and it is sad
A woman came to me. Back in August, talking about God - saying 'if you dont speak in tongues you are not baptised by the holy spirit' she goes down alot of mornings 'praying in tongues' by herself , by the ocean - that very same area suffered damaged and extrodinary high waves that pushed huge rocks out of the ocean - I stopped going there but meeting her caused me alot of doubt and anxiety , ive been praying about it and it was good to hear you talk the truth about it , in your previous videeo about it , where you demonstrated , i laughed out loud - thank you for keeping it real and simple 💝
if you believe jesus christ as your lord and saviour then you're saved and sealed unto the day of redemption with the holy spirit. simple! no need for tongues to be saved
I must say that I speak in tongues. At the begining it was a pastor who introduced it to me. I had questioned it, and sropped using it for some years. But one night, when i was praying, i started praying back in tongues and I remember clearly some words that I said. I went researching the words and found out it was Hebrew that I was speaking, and all the words were praising and magnifying God. That gave my heart comfort. I never ever knew Hebrew words except for the common ones, like how God is referred to as like Jireh, raffa, neisi etc.
Your thumbnail cracked me up. That kind of speaking has always made my hair stand up, as a non-believer and now as a Christian. The first church I went to after accepting Christ was Pentecostal. It was a tiny congregation, but everyone spoke in tongues throughout every service (the pastor would do it maybe once per service). I was led to believe the gift of tongues was automatic at baptism, so when I was baptized and didn't receive it, I definitely thought something was wrong with me! Thank God for the Bible, where I eventually read that's not how tongues works. I appreciate you for bringing more light to this subject.
The apostle Paul taught against everybody speaking in tongues IN CHURCH, teaching that only two or three speak in tongues IN CHURCH so that those tongues could be interpreted and thereby have the whole church edified by the message, rather than just the tongue speaker being edified (built up in faith). Paul also wrote in his 1 letter to the Corinthians that 'not everyone speaks in tongues' 1 Cor 12:30. So every Pentecostal or Charismatic church who come together and speak in tongues are going against Paul's teaching on church function.
I’m at church and the same thing with Me sometimes people start speaking in tongues and I don’t feel the Holy Spirit or anything. It scares me and some of them just do these weird noises and it is scary.
In my experience, there seems to be a correlation between an insistence on speaking in tongues and certain personality types. Like you said, people who like to draw attention to themselves, or those who feel they have something to prove about their spirituality. Thanks for covering this, Matt, and for doing the due diligence to pull out every relevant scripture. 😊
Here is Scripture disproving you: "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit." 1 corinthians 14:2 Also if tongues would only be in other human languages then why would Paul write this?:"I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding" 1 Corinthians 14:18 Why would he pray in tongues "more than ye all" by himself to God (outside church) if it was only different human languages? Tongues is mainly used as a personal prayer to God when no other people hear. So how can it be to get attention from people? Makes no sense. Youre speaking out of ignorance.
From someone who has experienced some surprising things with my prayer language I will list these two instances. A young lady who taught multiple languages was in a car with a group of us abruptly started shouting at me as several of us were singing a worship song that was on the radio. We were alternating singing in tongues and in english. The driver stopped to see if she was ok and checked to see why she was yelling. She said I can understand what you're saying! You are singing about the Lordship of Jesus! She told me to do it again but I told her i didn't know what i was singing or how make it happen but we could just go back to singing and see what occurred. After a very short time It happened again and we all rejoiced together. I experienced another time when I was speaking to a newer convert than I was, and as we began to praying tongues we both found ourselves saying the same thing for multiple phrases, ( sentences) until we found ourselves rejoicing in the Lord. We stopped stared again and within a few seconds again began saying exactly the same wording tongues at the exactly same time. What a wonder. I think the Lord wants us to be able to be more free to experience His Holy Spirit in multiple ways. I haven't given the scriptures because others have already listed them. The church has been all lecture and no lab for far too long. I would love to have a bible study in which we were able to talk about some of these things more freely. PS thank you for posting opinions that dont exactly line up with yours. I really respect that.
Good testimony. People often limit God and His miraculous ways and gifts because of their own lack of understanding of the scriptures. Without faith it is impossible to please Him. We can actually trust God to use unknown tongues through us to bless the body of Christ and to build ourselves up in the Holy Spirit as well.
@@acorte52 great testimony! My friend went to a church event in France. He doesn’t speak French at all, but still enjoyed the service even though he didn’t understand what they were saying. During the worship service he was singing in tongues and praising the Lord and the girl in front kept staring at him and crying. At the end of the service she came up to him and couldn’t thank him enough. She received a message from God through him. It was message she needed. Apparently he was speaking to her in fluent French.
Thank you. This has been one of the most challenging things to pinpoint truth on for me as one who grew up in a very chaotic charismatic atmosphere. It was such a painful thing to try to push through the clutter to find the simple gospel message as a child and young adult. After finally leaving that mess behind and spending time seeking what the Word actually says, the conclusions I have found there are confirmed in what you have shared here. It is so helpful to hear others say it. As to being a cessationist or a continuist...After I first walked away, I ran as far from any talk of gifts as I could out of fear of being sucked back in. However, after much study and a lot of prayer, I have come to a more balanced thought in recent years. I cannot turn aside from the truth gifts still exist, but I now see that the main problem in the old teachings I once sat under was that they prescribed a manufactured, one-size-fits-all approach. It was a vanity-filled, me-centered exercise. I now recognize God is sovereign. He gives and moves as HE wills. His PERFECT will. Never our own. The crux of the problem is when we forget that.
I agree with much of this, and I’m glad you’re out of there!! I will never be a cessationist (or Calvinist), but I will never get caught up in NAR nonsense either!!
Spot on again bro! Very well articulated. Isn’t great how, wedged in between the two chapters in 1 Cor about the gifts, is a wonderful instruction on what motivates the selfless exercise of the gifts.
Brother, you are 100% right. The first instance ever recorded in the Book of acts about speaking in tongues was the fact the Jewish Believers in Jerusalem were now speaking in the languages of those people that came from other nations. They did not know what they were speaking but those from other nations could hear that they were speaking in in their language. There's the foundation of speaking in tongues. Its a known language to the hearer but not to the speaker (The speaker will only understand what he speaks if God gives him the interpretation). All these gibberish I hear in the church is no speaking in tongues...its just gibberish.
I already quoted Scripture disproving you: "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit." 1 corinthians 14:2 Also if tongues would only be in other human languages then why would Paul write this?:"I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding" 1 Corinthians 14:18 Why would he pray in tongues "more than ye all" by himself to God (outside church) if it was only different human languages?
The word tongues means language and I completely agree that is the context with which the Bible means the word be understood. Earthly languages. Greetings from Kansas. Hope you are doing well.
I could never understand why some words are not translated properly like. Tongues - language Baptised - emersed Angel - messenger. Sometimes, the message changes.
Here is Scripture disproving you: "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit." 1 corinthians 14:2 Also if tongues would only be in other human languages then why would Paul write this?:"I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding" 1 Corinthians 14:18 Why would he pray in tongues "more than ye all" by himself to God (outside church) if it was only different human languages?
Excellent. I walked away from the Pentecostal doctrine a few years ago. Was constantly questioning myself, as some friends stand their ground on this and it’s the “evidence” we are filled with the Holy Ghost! God has shown me different and it’s just as you say. I just don’t argue with them now. I don’t care any longer to prove them wrong as I once did. I just give that to the Lord to sort out. Thank you!
@jeanclaude7018 It says He will pray IN THE SPIRIT and pray with my under standing also stop lying , In the spirit is to Speak with tongues You are a liar
@jeanclaude7018 He says HE WILL PRAY IN THE SPIRIT , and he will pray with his understanding Also , He is speaking in Tongues and he is praying where you can under stand also
Here is Scripture disproving you: "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit." 1 corinthians 14:2 Also if tongues would only be in other human languages then why would Paul write this?:"I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding" 1 Corinthians 14:18 Why would he pray in tongues "more than ye all" by himself to God (outside church) if it was only different human languages?
Thank you for this interpretation. I had taught a children’s choir a song in Yoruba, an African tongue. Unknown to us there were 3 visitors form Nigeria visiting us on the Sunday we debuted it. The men were so happy to hear this sacred song in their native language and they desired to know how I knew they would be there had been no prior notification that they’d be there. God is simply awesome.❤
Thank you for this. I asked God to help me understand if what they call 'tongues' is from Him.. and I'm grateful He's protected me from people 'imparting' them to me. This video confirms so much! Thank you 💗
Hey brother I don't quite see it the way you do on this subject , I 100 % agree there Is false tongues in the charismatic church just like there are false doctrines , false teachers etc etc , but I do believe the bible shows there are different tongues , the bible says in 1 corinthians 14 -2 for one who speaks in a tongue speaks to God not to man for no one understands him , so that can't be a known language in this case if no one understands him I do think certain tongues are known languages, and others are to be interpreted, others are for private prayer , in 1 corinthians 12- 10 it says various kinds of tongues , and I don't think the bible is saying when you speak in tongues and are building yourself up it is a bad thing paul goes on to say the one who prophesies is greater because it builds up the church , in Jude 1-20 encourages us to build ourselves up in our holiest faith by praying in the Holy spirit . Obviously I know certain people my see it different but I believe we are still all brothers and sisters in Christ I just don't let false tongues , false teachers , prophets etc stop me personally believe what scriptures I think show an teach 🙏
The reason no one understands him in 1 Cor 14:2 is because there is no interpretation. If someone in the room spoke that language (or had the gift of interpretation) they could interpret it. Paul is saying WITHOUT interpretation, no one understands it. That’s the context. Not that it’s not a language that anyone in the world speaks!! I would say that various kinds of tongues means just that; various types of (human) languages. Not all tongues are in one specific human language.
@lionoffireraw it doesn't make sense to me that tongues always has to be a known language in acts 2 it was tongues for a sign to unbelievers so it was a known language yet in corinthians paul talks about praying in tongues 14-14 , he speaks about speaking in tongues in the church so now to believers and clarifies this by saying someone needs the gift of interpretation to understand that type of tongue so that cannot be a known language otherwise you wouldn't need the gift of interpretation? Obviously in acts 2 the unbelievers didn't have the gift of interpretation they understood because it was a known language, so if the believers in the church hear a tongue and nobody understands it unless they have the gift of interpretation then that doesn't sound like a known language if it was a known language that would make the gift of interpretation worthless , and listening to people like David wilkersom , dereck prince , carter conlon , these people love and preach context and they helped me greatly understand what paul was writing to us but I respect you see it different brother just giving you my understanding like you are to me God bless 🙏
Thank you for your comments. There is just no hint of any secret language. This is something that came into existence around 1900, and has been inserted into peoples understanding of the text. It makes perfect sense for someone to speak in tongues in a human language, that no one in the service speaks, and then have someone with the gift of interpretation of that language. In no way is this negated by the gift of interpretation. My issue is that there simply is no occurrence in the Bible of anyone speaking tongues other than a known human language. As I demonstrated in the video, those passages which people used to suggest it is a prayer language, are easily explained away in the context of the passage. I believe that many people today are sincere in there seeking, and experiences, but the Bible simply does not communicate that anything other than human language even exists.
@@tckirk2827 "I don't think the bible is saying when you speak in tongues and are building yourself up it is a bad thing" exactly. This isn't the first time I'm hearing someone suggest that Paul is criticising or rebuking the church for doing this. I think we know when Paul is rebuking the church as he doesn't aim to be subtle.
i understand that there is a lot of abuse and if you speak in a service in tongues it should be with an interpretation for you should build up the church, to boast or to exalt yourself above others is a problem of the flesh. I am grateful to speak in tongues it has often builded me up, when I did not know what to pray, it builded me up and gives me strength but it is not an emotional high and certainly does not mean I am some sort of an elite. but it does certainly not mean I am influenced by a demonic spirit. I asked god for it , and he would not have given me a bad spirit.
Thank you. This has bothered me my whole life. I was raised in the COG TN, and tongues, slain in the Spirit, and lots of hollering/shaking were part of almost every srvice. My family believes if you dont speak in tongues, your salvation is in question. Ive always thought there is something wrong with me & my relationship with the Lord because of this. I understand more now as Ive grown older, but tbh, its still in the back of my mind that my salvation is 'less than'. 😢
Maybe consider that when you ask Jesus to save you, He is part of the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) and cannot be divided or separated. If Jesus is in you, so is the Holy Spirit.
I was raised in a free holiness church. Lots of the expressions like you mentioned. Shaking, hollering, clapping, falling in the floor, speaking in tongues (but not actual languages, just sounds with the mouth almost like “la la la”) etc. They taught that how you know you got the Holy Ghost is if you spoke in tongues (they would use the book of Acts).
Why is it that when you think you’ve found an all round, sound in doctrine teacher, something pops up that disappoints and bewilders. Acts 2 doesn’t say that the tongue speakers were speaking known languages. It says ‘every man HEARD them speak in their own language’. And what about 1 Cor 14? The people were excited and like selfish little children with a new toy, so Paul had to rein them in and give them some teaching on how to conduct themselves in church with this new gift. Think of others, don’t hog the soundwaves, wait your turn, edification of others more important, wait til you get home and then talk to God, He will understand because your spirit is praying not your understanding. Brother I know you’re sincere but please hear me. You are the one who prays in tongues, not God. It’s a gift He has given you. Look at Paul’s language. Only with an interpreter, two or three at most. These imply voluntary action. It’s amazing how this is still being attacked from inside the church today. Bless you.
There’s simply no explicit example in the Bible of anyone praying “privately” in “tongues.” Nor is there any explicit example whatsoever of tongues being anything other than communicating in another human language. This is all a recent invention. I know that you are most likely sincere, and genuinely believe that your experience is real, but sadly it’s not biblical. There are other religions and philosophies that also talk in these “babble tongues,” and believe what they are doing is real because they “feel it.” Tongues is a real gift today, but it’s not something used in private (even the praying in 1 Cor 14 is IN THE CHURCH), nor is it this form of unbiblical “babble.” It’s understood as other human languages. I know it’s hard to let go of things, but this teaching at the very least, demonstrates that there is zero example biblically of tongues used in private prayer, or spoken in a way that isn’t understood by the hearer as another human language. So the entire theology is being READ INTO THE TEXT!!
I used to think this way. Tongues and healings are the two gifts that are mentioned clearly as plural, meaning there are a bunch of different versions and variations. No wonder they are the two most controversial and hardest to understand. We disagree, but I won’t get into details because it’s not good to argue over disputable matters. I hope you’re blessed brother.
Tongues plural simply means different human languages. Not all speak the same tongue/language when exercising the gift. Someone might speak Spanish, someone else might speak Chinese.
1 Corinthians 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue [his own native language] pray that he may interpret. 1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue [unknown to others], my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. "My understanding is unfruitful": Although i have understanding, it does not profit those who cannot understand my language.
Yes!! I have spent the last couple of years trying to find a video that perfectly represents what I see scripturally and this is it to a t! I've always said I'm not full cessationist and I'm not fully continuationist, but really what I mean is that I don't see these gifts happening today like they were in biblical times, and what I do see happening is not biblical at all. I do believe these gifts are happening today, however I have yet to see personally, like you said, where people and churches are using the gifts in the correct and biblical order. I used to be 100% cessationist until the Lord gave me visions, and then another time when my husband spoke in tongues. It was a time our family was under severe spiritual attack, and we were all praying in the livingroom together. All of a sudden in the middle of my husband's prayer he suddenly said something in tongues, very briefly, and you could literally feel the demonic presence leave our house, like a wind rushing by us. I remember us looking at eachother like "what just happened👀" because it wasn't something he'd planned to do or had ever done in the past. But right after that we were able to find out what words he spoke, and it was in Hebrew. So yes, I totally stand with you on this. I also now believe the gifts are happening today, however it seems they are rarely happening in the biblical order and very rarely do you see it happening in such order.
My Pastor from the Sevenday Adventist church was preaching the gospel on the radio in english and a man heard him preaching in his native language. That's the real gift of tounges! Praise God for his testimony. Shalom.
i once spoke in tongues. i was attacked by satan that i blasphemed against the Holy Spirit when i guit for many years after that. i was in total agony for a long time. that was over 4o years ago. i found a book called i once spoke in tongues that helped some. the things i seen and experienced is beyond comprehension. i was anew Christen and was took to a assembly of god church where i was told i had to be baptized by the holy and speak in tongues or i was not saved yet. yet this opened the door to spiritual wickedness that sifted me like wheat. stay away from these things or you could suffer untold agony for a long time. i am talking about tongues ,,slain in the spirit , dancing in the spirit, tongues of fire, running in the spirit , visions, and much more. it is no joke!!
tongues and visions are biblical, but not like the charsmiatic heretical churches where they deceptively and use it unorganised im glad you've seen the truth as well
I had a similar experience and once i discovered the biblical truth about tongues, my life changed for the better...I have had fewer and fewer satanic attacks since the cessation of this practice because the doors that I opened before are now closed.... the truth makes us free... Amen!
I had this very same thing happened to me. I was in college, very much engrossed into my studies and studying the Bible and arguing biblical content with fellow college students. Although I say arguing, I mean more so discussing points, etc. My attack from Satan didn’t necessarily come from the fact that I was speaking in tongues, but it was that I was at the height of my spiritual walk. Satan attempted to accuse me of the same thing you said, happened to you. The Bible says “there are powers and principalities we know not of”. I can very much relate to what you experienced. I think the attack from Satan comes because he knows that he must shut down those that are the most effective for spreading the Gospel.
I agree 💯 with you. I have always, ALWAYS felt uncomfortable if I was close to somebody speaking in tongues. It made me irritable as it drew my attention away from the actual service or time of prayer. I could most of the time have a feeling that it was fake. But I felt guilty feeling that way as it came to mind that they could speak in tongues and I could not. I, therefore, rather stayed home and avoided going to church. Your teachings really make a lot of things/ questions clear to me. Thank you. It is so much appreciated.
You continue to bring a smile to my face. What a wonderful blessing it is to be part of this body, loving and supporting each other as we continue on our journey in Christ. God bless you too Susan. @@susananderson9124
As a pentecostal i think you maybe right about this, i never felt comfortable speaking in tongues and every time i did i felt i had to convince myself that i was, but your interpretation from paul makes a lot of sense, ill have to study this for myself, thanks for sharing 👍
Thank you for your response and so quickly. I lost it before I could dig into it. Would you mind te-sending it? I want to look into what you claim about rebuke. This is important. All the best.
1 Corinthians 14 verse 18 says “I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than you all” and verse 19 adds “Yet IN THE CHURCH I had rather speak five words with my understanding”. So Paul differentiated between praying privately in tongues versus speaking in church. So saying this has nothing to do with a private prayer language is false.
No, he is talking about speaking in the church WITHOUT an interpreter where no one can understand (this is the entire context of the chapter). The contrast to this is speaking in a church/public ministry WITH an interpreter, or someone who understands the tongue. This isn’t implying private tongues at all!! You’re reading that into the text when it isn’t there.
Exactly, sometimes i am tired, don’t know what to pray for, when i start with tongues the spirit helps me, and it is often confirmed laterwards in a biblical way through the word, guys i know how it feels to be hurt by the church but don’t throw the bay out with the bathwater. What we need is balance.
@@lionoffireraw he is contrasting his prayers in private (which he is saying is done in tongues) versus prophesying in the church which is public. The change was the setting as he said “Yet in the church” meaning publicly. If you don’t see it then it’s because you don’t want to.
No he was an evangelist who actually spoke in more tongues than them .as he traveled to different countries and preached the gospel. That's why in church he would rather speak with things understandable.
mmmmm, you are wrong, it can't be said that all tongues are fake. Did the Lord tell you that what you were doing was not real or it was just a feeling. Please explain, when you first spoke in tongues what did you experience because if you just started putting sounds together for yourself indeed they were fake but if you experienced a touch from the Lord be careful not to blaspheme the things of the Lord because you will be held accountable
@@lionoffireraw Well first of all, this is the first time I’ve ever heard a professing continuationist reject the “prayer language” concept when referencing tongues. To be honest, I don’t know if I’m ready to believe your exegesis on that. But I will be praying. For years, there was a certain effortlessness when I would pray in tongues in the context of my prayer time. I was encouraged to do so by my disciplers. I experienced many supernatural occurrences and deliverances during these times that pointed directly to scripture, and remember feeling so unbelievably blessed. Times where I struggled with sin so bad, I would break out the tongues, and a praise and worship song or Bible verse would pop out, and it was tremendously encouraging and got my mind back on the Lord… and to think I could have been influenced by something like the Kundalini spirit seems quite shocking. For years, I had friends who were 5-point Calvinists insist I was only speaking babble, that tongues are not for today, and the tongues I spoke were not biblical. I wanted to believe them, but couldn’t, because these people were *SO* dogmatic. No truth in love whatsoever. The words that come out of my mouth when I pray in tongues are not babble, but are languages I’ve been able to identify over the years as I’ve become exposed to Hebrew and Greek translations of the Bible, and as I’ve come in contact with native speakers of those languages. But these are only experiential “evidences.” They are not proof. The Bible is proof of what is true and not true. Still, there is one experience involving the private use of tongues I would like to share with you that stood out to me. Okay, so we can all agree that the doctrines of “slain in the spirit” and being “drunk” in the Holy Spirit are false (I’ve denounced the charismatic church and most of its doctrine by the way). Well, one morning I was excited to spend time with the Lord, and of course, tongues eventually came into play, and gradually as things came to a lull, my body began to go dead weight. I thought I was being pressed into the bed I was kneeling against. Pretty soon, I lay silent, feeling TONS of peace, I go to stand upright, and I stumble around like a drunk person. I telephone one of my friends, slurring my words like a weirdo, and they were like, “Scott, it sound to me like you’re drunk in the Holy Spirit.” The only time I’d ever witnessed that sort of thing was in church meetings and I really didn’t think anything of it. It just was whatever it was. Then to have it happen to me during a time I’m genuinely trying to spend time seeking the presence of God-ALONE- was quite startling (I lived with a group of raging alcoholics at the time and was incredibly uncomfortable. Definitely seeking God and his comfort). Anyway, to look back on that and think I could have been under the influence of a demonic spirit makes me feel a little betrayed by God. Why would he send these charismatic Christians into my life to mentor me, only for me to become deceived? By the way, I was not fooled by their doctrine on female pastors. They were very dogmatic about that, and I smelled a rat, as I did with the word of faith stuff that they would sometimes spout off. My parents didn’t go to church, and these people were responsible for bringing me up in the ways of the Lord. I now renounce the charismatic church, and feel quite bitter for having been influenced by them. After they began ordaining women, they began sliding leftward, and now suddenly homosexuality (a sin I’ve repented of) is okay… or at least, they don’t like to dwell on that subject. *All* 3 of the people have become deceived, and one even died having gone back to his sin. I was orphaned so to speak, and these are people who the Lord used to develop my prayer life and my doctrine. Jesus used to be God in the charismatic church. Now humans are god. I know I already said it, but I have to say again that I feel very betrayed, and not sure what to believe now about the doctrine of tongues. It’s quite unsettling, really. Jesus is still my Savior and my God. The essential doctrines are settled as far as I’m concerned. Just really upset at being jerked around by Foursquare and Assemblies of God (I don’t mind calling them out, as they are apostate, and need to be marked and avoided). Sorry for the soliloquy. My real name is Scott. I live in the states.
@@lionoffireraw Sorry, by the way, about the “drunk in the Spirit” part. I’ve never felt more at peace and carefree than that day. It was a very scary time for me, as I was living with drunks, and I wanted to know the Lord was there. I couldn’t have cared less about some kind of kooky “experience.” I wasn’t interested in that. As the years wore on, I became sick of the wet noodle doctrines that the charismatic church was teaching, and finally found a great church that teaches expositorally. Anyway, I have thought in recent years that while slain in the Spirit and “drunk” in the Spirit are indeed false doctrines, they do seem to be experiences that parallel with a lot of scripture. I just wonder if, when the Lord wants to punctuate a Biblical principle in the life of a believer, perhaps these things do happen? I won’t die on that battlefield, by the way. Lol
Thank you so much for opening up. It sounds like you’ve been able to identify a number of these false doctrines, despite pressure to the contrary from people in those churches. I also reject those doctrines, and I also reject Calvinism too. It is completely unbiblical. It’s actually insane, and perverts the character of God. I don’t believe in such things as being drunk in the spirit. One of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is self-control, so it makes no sense that someone would be stumbling around and slurring words if they were under the influence of the Holy Spirit. I don’t think those experiences have any parallels with the experiences in the Bible, if you look closely. You certainly shouldn’t feel betrayed by God. All sorts of people come across our path, and it’s up to us to be able to discern truth from error. His Spirit has helped you to discern much error already. Sadly many people get stuck in this type of error their whole lives. As for tongues, I just don’t see it as a private prayer language, biblically. It seems to me like people have injected their own theology into the text. IMO, those passages are easily interpreted without anything to do with a private prayer language. I guess there are some things for you to consider and to pray about after watching this video.
@@lionoffireraw I only use my gift of tongues as a private prayer language. "For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries." I Corinthians 14:2. I have been to the Pentecostal churches and was so uneasy that I left the church for 20 years. Just because people act that way does not make the word wrong.
Just a little personal testimony about praying in tongues. As a relatively new believer I heard about tongues and was asking God for that gift. I was at my parents home on my knees in their bathroom when I first started praying in an unfamiliar unknown language. That language has developed greatly over the last 25 years. I came from quite a rough background and before that experience I couldn’t string a sentence together without swearing like a trooper, interestingly the swearing stopped after that experience. I was working with a young Japanese girl in the UK at the time who has now been my wife of 25 years. I used to talk to her a lot about Jesus and gave her books to read of Christians testimonies. Tongue’s played a major part in her conversation as it was something that really stood out to her as something real as she read people’s testimonies of coming to faith in our Lord Jesus. One night she was on her own in her room and she was asking God if this was all real and she found herself speaking in a new language! I in the background had been sensing this could be the girl the Lord was calling me to marry. I had been actually asking the Lord to give her the gift of tongues so that I would know her conversion was real (and no I don’t believe you need to pray in tongues to have the Holy Spirit), but God is so good and that is exactly what happened. As I said my wife is Japanese and is certainly not given over to emotionalism. She has been praying in tongues in her private life for 25 years too and we thank God for that gift! Is tongues used very immaturely today as it was being used in Corinth? Certainly! We need to be wise as Paul said how we use this gift in public meetings. Sad today how many believers attack and belittle this gift. I for one am very grateful for this gift and thank God regularly for it! I don’t believe in putting our personal experience above the scriptures either, but I believe the scriptures are clear Paul prayed regularly in tongues in private too and thanked God for that gift!
There is not a single example in the Bible of: 1. Anyone praying tongues privately 2. The gift of tongues being a non-human language I explain both of these in the video.
You are wrong in your understanding of this brother. If you are truly honest you have to acknowledge you can not say for sure Paul when he said ‘I thank God I pray in tongues more than all of you’ wasn’t referring to praying in tongues privately too. I know from personal experience you can’t pray in tongues lots unless you do do it in private. That’s how I know you don’t really understand what you are talking about. I’ve also interpreted my tongues in private. Go figure!
@user-bi5fj3sy3i I am curious... for whose benefit did you interpret your tongues privately? 1 corinthians 14:22-24 22 Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign[a] not for unbelievers but for believers. 23 If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or outsider enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all,
Not long after I was saved I attended a Christian camp where some were speaking in tongues. I asked for the gift but couldn’t do it.. I tried for days on my own and it was just babble. However when I got back to work I told a co-worker (who was a Baptist) about the camp and how I’d asked for this gift. She basically rebuked me and said the gift of tongues was not of God. I was confused as the people I knew who had this gift were beautiful genuine Christians. I excused myself and went to the bathroom and said to God ‘God if this gift is truly from you please will you show me?’ And right then and there I spoke in tongues. It was not of me as I’d tried many times on my own to do it. It was a completely new language that flowed effortlessly. I thanked God for showing me the truth, that the gift of tongues was indeed of and from Him. In saying that I have heard many people who speak in ‘tongues’ and it sounds like utter gibberish. I don’t believe everyone who thinks they have the gift necessary do.
Something similar happened with me, but then I realised that it was a false manifestation. This type of tongues doesn’t align up with what the Bible teaches! It’s easy to deceive ourselves with experiences.
@@lionoffireraw can you explain further what you mean by "false manifestation"? I'm sure you know if you just faked it or pretended or not. You either had control over it or you didn't... no?
Guys, if you are ignorant of spiritual things, rather than trying to justify your unbelief, seek God, and ask Him to show you the truth. Good articulation does not not equal spiritual wisdom. The disciples in the upper room didn't have a bible to check that it was the Holy Spirit when He came with power. They trusted in the person of Jesus, and in the personal relationship they had with Him. Don't get caught in legalism, but always test the spirits. Shalom
Be very careful what you are saying on this topic. People are seeking Jesus with all their hearts, they hunger to be close to Him and the Holy Spirit is drawing these people, to go and pray (in tongues) and seek His face. If you have doubt, seek God yourself, don't come with a self-righteous attitude that you know better, when your heart is far from God.
The Bible doesn’t tell us to seek the bible with all of our hearts, it instructs us to seek the LORD with all of our hearts. The bible is just a dead letter unless the Holy Spirit himself gives revelation. Why do you think the pharisees knew scripture but were dead white wash tombs?!
1 Corinthians 4:6 “Do not go beyond what is written.” 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. I have a question - how are pagans (without the Holy Spirit) able to replicate the so called tounges, partial healings and not 100% accurate prophecies?
@lionoffireraw would really like to hear your opinion on people who say they pray in tongues and have the gift of interpretation (so they can tell you what they are praying about)?
I've written a paper when I was doing my theological studies. While it's true that the tongues in the Bible were actual languagws, the "charismatic tongues" & some manifestations of the spirit are real. If you look into church history & how it all got started, you can't really explain them away. John Wesley, a logical & methodical man led meetings that involved such spiritual manifestations & he never condemned it. I do however disagree with how the Pentecostals ran away with proof texting. But that doesn't mean the gift of such tongues are fake. We need to leave room for the Spirit & remember that it's only one of the many gifts of the Spirit, it's not a sign of salvation or more maturity/special/anointed. It's the only personal gift that does nothing for the church unless there is an interpreter (even that needs to be careful). No gift is given to all & not all Christians are given every gift. 1 cor teaches this clearly. So don't throw the baby out with the water.
I am very glad to hear this good teaching. It is a very good explanation. In the intentionally brief amount of time given to explain this, it is the best I have ever heard. Good job.
Yes I hv the same views n i posted a few posts on my channel about the true gifts of tongues!! If anyone feels offended n they should read n understand what the Torah actually says about the tongues but unfortunately many refuse to accept the truth because of pride over their believe they are gifts of holy spirit instead of meaningless chanting!
I think what most need to do here is instead of attacking our brother, why not read the scriptures and ask the Holy Spirit for understanding? Thank you for this video brother God bless you 🙏💕🕊
I sometimes feel compelled to pray in the metaphor of songs, but it can be understood through the hearts of others and I’m open to explain it to those I pray with/for this way.
When I first got saved, my husband and I went to a church, and I wasn't aware that it was Pentecostal. We went for a few weeks and nothing odd happened, my husband even got saved in that church. But the last time we went, I practically ran out of there. From the moment we got there, I had a major conflict going on inside me that I just couldn't shake. Believe me, I tried, because I started feeling guilty for having the urge to leave. I became nauseous, had a headache, and something inside of me kept saying, "You don't want to be here, you have to leave." I couldn't figure out why I was feeling that way. So during the worship service, while most of the congregation was standing and singing, I sat down and prayed. I asked God, is this Your Holy Spirit trying to tell me something? Or is it my human nature or Satan trying to push me out? I asked for His guidance, and I thanked Him. As I was getting to the end of my prayers, the pastor went up front and told the congregation that he could feel the Holy Spirit moving through, that he has the gift of speaking in tongues, knows a few others who have the gift, and then he started speaking a whole other language. I KNEW at that moment that I had to get out of there. I started urgently hitting my husband's arm and told him, "We gotta GO." We left immediately. I was shaking like a leaf and I felt like crying, and I have NEVER had that experience in church before. It shook me to my core, and I'll never forget it. Within minutes of us leaving, I felt perfectly fine. Strangest church experience of my life.
You shouldn't be taking charge over your husband like that. He is biblically the leader in your marriage. If it comes to the point of you physically hitting him it doesn't sound like you were leaving room for him to play his role at all.
@@shaunhunterit342God gives all His children gifts. This one the woman has is discernment. Maybe her husband has a different one. That being said, she is definitely permitted to use her gift even with her husband. If I waited for my husband to use his discernment, which isn’t a gift of his, we would have been in a lot of “spiritual” danger, especially with our children. I’ve had to step up a lot in over 27 years and use my discernment to protect our family. Also, the husband needs to listen to his wife’s warnings while going thru life. That’s how God created a woman. She has instincts that he doesn’t. If he can’t listen to her, that’s called pride.
Beautifully put. God does not need a secret language. God needs no interpretation. And a reminder that practical messages are as much or more important mystical messages that are disconnected from reality. Thank you for helping my interpret this.
4:11 seriously? Paul said he prayed it more than anyone, and that meant he prayed it alone, seeing he was the one teaching that he doesn’t want people speaking in tongues in the church in the public setting, but prophesy - this by implication meant that he MUST have spoke it alone in prayer to God. It’s the only logical conclusion
1. It never said Paul prayed it alone. 2. He wants ORDER in the way it’s prayed in church. He is saying that without that order (which is the entire reason he is writing this chapter), it is better for prophecy to be spoken, because without interpretation the tongues is meaningless. That’s his entire point!!
@@lionoffireraw 1. He didn’t have to say it, but it’s clearly implied. 2. I do agree that’s the point of the passage for church use. However what ur missing is that Paul is giving a two-fold message - Paul is saying yes, order in the church, but alone pray to God in tongues in the spirit, because he does it all the time. We can argue all day I’m sure, and we will get nowhere. That’s my standpoint and most of the churches also. Not sure where you get your indoctrination from, but I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the matter. Be blessed …
You’re wrong bud. Just like he prayed it more than anyone doesn’t mean he did it in private, it could be in front of the church members. 1Corinthians 12:28-31 says not everyone has the gift of speaking in tongues. It’s not something everyone can do
@ true - as the verse you point out can’t be denied, not all speak with tongues. Can’t argue with that. But just coz that’s true, I think you are assuming that Paul only spoke in tongues in public, how do you know? And maybe I’m also assuming that he spoke it in private, but I still think there’s more evidence he did do it in private. But I could be wrong. I know in my own personal experience I speak with tongues alone and am edified in the Lord as I do so. So either I’m filled with the Spirit or am so deluded I only think I’m being filled with peace and strength … you decide, but I’m confident it’s the Lord, who only ever gives peace.
I fully agree with you, I spoke in "tongues" babling ones for over 20 years, i began seeking The Lord on this and He showed me exactly what He showed you! Now it is written that the gifts are irrevocable right? But The Lord led me to repent of babbling and so i did, they gone, i cannot even imitate them.. so then if it were a true form of tongues i doubt they would have left...also, when the disciples asked Jesus " teach us how to pray" then He being a triune God taught them what we call The Lords prayer and before He said the prayer He said don't babble like the pagans do. Now some will say that babble means to go on and on and on, well babbling in tongues is the same repetitions over and over again! These are my thoughts on it, but honestly i know when i repented of speaking in babbling tongues i was delivered of mysticism! I have learned more than i ever had before in His Word without the confusion of mysticism!
Thank you for this! I learned Spanish at the age of 19 in an immersion program. I worked very hard, and am now fairly fluent. I have also studied Portuguese and German. I would love to miraculously be able to speak another language. I have always believed that "tongues" refers to languages that can be heard and understood by others.
I believe that it is not important that we understand what words we are speaking when praying in tongues. It is the Holy Spirit enabling us to use the gift. When I pray in tongues I don't decide what words to speak, otherwise it would not be real. One way I know that it is true tongues is that I use the name Abba (Father) without choosing to. 1 Corinthians 12:3 says that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed.
Matt, your story is very similar to mine. I could "speak in tongues" when I was a brand new believer. Thought it was a prayer language but I realized that I was just making sounds and it felt wrong. I told the Lord I was just going to pray in English because He knew English and that if He wanted me to speak in tongues then He would reveal it to me in His word. However the more I studied the more I became convinced that tongues were not a private prayer language but a real actual language. I am now a cessationist in the sense of the sign gifts being for the apostolic foundation of the church.
I agree with most of that, although the Bible doesn’t make the distinctions apostolic gifts. 1 Corinthians 13 is clear that the gifts will pass away (including tongues and prophecy) when “the perfect comes.” This is referring to our glorified state with Christ “when we will see in FULL.” But I have never seen those gifts in operation. Sadly there are many fake manifestations, but that doesn’t change what 1 Corinthians 13 tells us.
Sad story. Cessationism is not taught in the Word and is simply unbelief. Praying you let the Teacher the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth through the Word. God bless.
I am a prophetic intercessor ,I have been praying in my secret place and the Holy Spirit came upon me and I spoke in tongues. Don't limit God, God's ways are not are ways, God's thoughts are not are thoughts. Amen
'Some Will Depart from the Faith': "Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared." --1st Timothy 4. Now, read those passages in Corinthians again.
@lionoffireraw - This says the gifts are not all continuing because false teachers and doctrines say they do. Paul says what is in God continues, and true gifts at any time ONLY come from God. This is rare and finite. We reject humanism in this regard as a result. There is no weakness in knowing what is all obvious. Less than a fraction of one percent know what true love is. Those in elitism understand indoctrination because they do it through freemasonry/illuminati in the world. I even have had conversations in the past briefly where some in certain church groups are friends with these people in private confidence. I'm going to bed. Trust in the One who will never pass away. We are but filthy rags, and yet He gave it all for us and the Kingdom of God.
@lionoffireraw - I have 1st Corinthians 13 on my wall. I also don't think TH-cam deleted all my comments either, since some are still here. But I digress. I stated the obvious on everything. I am not asleep at the wheel, so to speak. Corinthians is overall written in relevance to God's true nature, conviction, and wisdom. It is in no way about the gifts continuing, because not everyone will be healed, be rich in money and have a perfect life. Tell me one instance in any church which teaches that as absolute in today that all interpretation of the gifts experienced in the room in Acts carried on fully in like manner, other than false teachers and false doctrines? You can't, because this is not the relevance and absolute of the true Gospel and purpose of the Holy Spirit. I grew up, visited and met so many people in churches from all over. I was abused, mocked for my faith in various ways, a victim of two ancient cults tied to the same enemy, even for being open about wanting to share God with others in high school. And yet, I have deep love for people. You are my brother in Christ, but one big reason why I left the church is because of everything that's wrong going on in many of them, and the lack of common sense and true accountability.
Thank you for the insightful explanation, Matt. I used to pray in words, until one day attended this Charismatic church. They encouraged us to "get" the speaking in tounge. I got it one day, but i believe it was me praying in Holy Spirit. There was a time when Isomebody interpreted it for the prayer leader. However, i had no idea how they could understand it. Thank you again. Glad that you brought up the topic to bring discernment. God bless you abundantly 🙏🏻🎉
Matt, THANK YOU SOOO MUCH for explaining the gift of tongues… I’ve been struggling for a while trying to figure it all out and your explanation has greatly helped me understand. ❤ May God continually bless you.
There are many accounts of tongues before Azusa and modern Pentecostalism. Seymour was a very humble, thus the reason he hid behind a box not put it on his head.
Thank you. I have never liked tongues and find the fake babbling of Pentecostals to be harmful to the image of christianity. Cannot deny paul spoke about it and put restrictions on it, I’ll leave it at that. Agree with you 100%. In acts it is clear that it was used to spread the word as foreigners present understood hearing it in their native language.
Not proof. You’re just giving your opinion. A person could just as easily argue the other side. To me there’s a personal time of communing with God and then there is gifts operating in the church. People get these mixed up. This guy just likes his opinion enough to put it in a video.
This is about the speaker/s knowing a language other than that of the congregation: 1 Corinthians 14:7 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. For example: If a man (or men) came from Italy to China, and did not have the gift of tongues to speak Mandarin, he/they ought to have a person to interpret.
Wouldn't the verse preluding all the verses you just spoke about give context to the reader that unknown angelic tongues are a possibility for today? "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels" 1st corinthians 13:1 after this chapter Paul simply gives structure on how to use the gifts (in love) for the edifying of the church. Does this dismantle your claim at 13:27 that tongues are only spoken in a known human language.
No, because “angelic tongues” doesn’t refer to the “gift of tongues.” The word glossia means language. So the verse is talking about angelic languages. Nothing to do with the gift of tongues!
@@lionoffirerawthat's wrong I looked it up in the greek. It's the same word "glossa" used in every occurrence you mentioned throughout your video and I mentioned.
As one born & raised by a minister in a cessationist spiritual community, (Church of Christ-non-instrumental), I have been at odds with my community in this matter. They (collectively speaking), misintperpret "THE PERFECT" in Corinthians as "the Canon" , concluding thus, that gifts have ceased....However, the Most High has proven to me by His Holy Spirit that this is indeed not the case! He has proven to me by tongues both terrestrial and celestial; by healings and by unbroken prophecies, that the Spiritual gifts have not passed away, but are active and available today for those who believe, to whom Yah distributes as He sees fit! As a public proponent of Spiritual gifts in the Church of Christ, it is indeed a lonely place to be in a cessationist spiritual society, but my place is a necessary one in these last days! (Why would The Most High go through such powerful efforts to prove a lifelong cessationist wrong if cessationism is correct?!) Just as I decry cessationism, I have also admonished those of Pentecostalism of public babblings sans interpretation! This is as unscriptural as cessationist doctrine! -Watchman Winyahudah
I also have a logical affront to your account that tongues are ALWAYS ONLY a human language... As the Holy Spirit, being utilitarian, and neither wasteful nor superfluous; what sense would it make for the Holy Spirit to empower me to speak Cantonese in an English speaking church in South Carolina, only to have an interpreter translate my Chinese back into English? Seems like a conceptual waste of time as well as physical & spiritual energy to me!
Hello Matt, I'm new to your channel and didn't see anywhere in your channel description what kind of religious studies you've completed, and was wondering if you're a pastor or theologian? May I ask what your religious/biblical credentials are?
I grew up in a charismatic church and moved away from this practice of speaking in "tongues " because I found it confusing, scary and a block to my relationship with Jesus. It seemed to me that it was meant for good in the scripture but in using it in life it became something else. So I moved away from my roots and I am glad that I did.
Thank you for this clear explanation based totally on the Word. There are so few genuine Bible teachers like you around these days. You are right up there with Martyn Iles, Paul Washer, and a few others I trust, with a solid faith based on the scriptures. I am very thankful for your ministry. May God bless you for the difference you are making in people’s lives.
it does happen that people who speak in tongues occasionally speak in an earthly language as well. This is the case where an interpreter is required, such as what happened to Joyce Morris of Lord of Life Ministries. Paul was simply saying that speaking in tongues is not necessary in a church when it cannot be interpreted. But what stops you from praying to a point where you are no longer asking or declaring or confessing but just having fellowship with God as I explained earlier. I can also ask this question, do you think that the second person of the Godhead, The Christ, also God, spent full nights on mountains just asking the Father for things? No. He himself said in Matthew 6:7: "And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like the pagans; for they think they will be heard because of their many words." Which means just ask in simple language ONCE, every day. So what was he doing for full nights? He was hearing from God, ascending into the dimensions of the spirit, seeing the future, but all this began with kneeling down, praying normally and suddenly he was CAUGHT UP! into the spirit. If someone had passed by he could only have heard something like elishakoparadiahh esizashida emenee akopraydaa heliahhhhh!
The true gift of tongues exists (in another known human language), but the “tongues” that we see today in many churches is not biblical at all. I’ve demonstrated this definitively in the video below! There is not a single instance in Scripture of “tongues” as a private prayer language. This form of tongues simply doesn’t exist, biblically, and is actually a 19th Century invention! th-cam.com/video/ovIFlCMsgqM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LuxyVhyrKm2WTSlt
I have 2 different experience speaking tongue The first church i go there is charismatic in teenager age, and i remember faking it by mimicking other coz everybody speaking tongue and they told me they can speak it after baptize Then when years afterward i join a prayer group once and i suddenly felt 2 finger grabbing my chin and move my mouth so hard and i speaking tongue language, i also try speaking normal way while at it but the voice that come out of my mouth is different sound So i believe in tongue as something real and possible, it just you can fake it if you joining church or community that not stand in word truthfully If God truly let you can speak in it let it be, but like what Paul said, it's better to have someone interpreting it, because if not you are not edifying anyone but yourself, so better just pray silently And after that i never encounter speaking tongue anymore that as powerful like that
Thank you Sir. I'm from 1958. I was taught on tongues as you explain it. I can't grasp what is being taught now. My descendants are now taught that anyone can just rattle it off. But I never hear any interpretation to go with. Personally, I believe that I don't do it because God never put it on me. I don't need the "supernatural" allure to believe. I just do. I was confused at my church for a while. I felt that all my life, I had to have missed this "knowledge". But in reality I hadn't missed anything. This is part of newer theology. This ain't my old time religion.
Wow, Matt thanks for sharing this with me! I've always wished I can speak in tongues and also hear God's audible voice, but ive known other people to speak in tongues and hearing God's audible voice!
I agree with your conclusion. Some churches will tell you that you don't have the Spirit unless you speak in tongues 🤦🏾♀️ with a disregard for all the other gifts. So misguided....
I am convinced that there is not one single verse supporting a prayer tongue. Here is my question I have posted several times in various places with absolutely no response. While I am convinced of the aforementioned lack of scripture supporting this fiasco what have I been doing for the past forty+ years? Do I need deliverance? I did an experiment a few years ago. I managed rental properties near a major university. I had two different tenants who did not know each other. They both were linguists.I spoke briefly in what I believed were tongues. Both of them said it was a semantic language but they could not identify it. Can someone help me with my confusion? Again, do I need deliverance?
Thankfully God has revealed these things to babes and kept it from the “wise”. This is a very intellectual argument but is lacking the conviction and leading of the Holy Spirit. I will keep speaking in tongues in private and when the Spirit leads. God bless.
Replace intellectual with biblical. What people call Holy Spirit led often simply means emotionalism. Charismatic tongues is a theology invented around 1900.
@@lionoffireraw dogma with no conviction, a few scriptures taken out of context, an intellectual interpretation of scripture and little love only amplifies how deceived many are, when they could be encouraging the body to press in and walk in the gifts, to be led by the Holy Spirit, they choose rather to justify their unbelief and walk in arrogance and try to convince others that their beliefs are superior. What the western body of Christ needs is serious persecution to come and purify the church until everyone rejoices when someone steps out in faith and walks in obedience to the Word instead of trying to find out what they are doing wrong so that they can criticize and amplify their errors instead of Jesus.
YOU are 100% correct. The only example of "speaking in tongues" is given in Acts on Pentecost day. Everyone in attendance understood everything said to them regardless of what language they spoke. The act of chanting Babel when praying is written no where in God's word. It's a tradition made up by men. Preacher starts shouting out babbling sounds when delivering a sermon do it to show off, and it does no one any good. Paul even said in Corinthians if you don't have a translator present don't prophecy. People who do this go to great lengths in twisting and adding to scriptures. Everything a Christian does should be done to glorify God and spread his message. Babeling tongues accomplish nothing and do no one any good.❤️🤟🏼✌🏼💪🏼🙏🏼
My Mum was when in her 20's, but became housebound later in life so couldn't go to church the vicar brought her communion. She prayed and read her Bible everyday and always had a list of people she prayed for. One day she was alone as usual doing her prayers, when she suddenly started speaking a language which just flowed from her. So no-one was there and she didn't ask for it, it just happened. How do you explain that?
I’d explain it by saying that it’s not real. Biblical tongues must be in the presence of someone, to minister to that person. And it must be translated or understood by that person. We can all have experiences. It doesn’t mean they are real. Especially if they contradict the Bible!
Also I looked for the comment here but it no longer is visible. Did you delete it? I checked every one on this video three times. Definitely not here. But my positive comment on another of your videos- which was posted first, remains.
With 1 Corinthians 14, the entire context is about order in the church, in regards to the use of the gifts (particularly the gift of tongues). The entire chapter is a REBUKE about using the gift of tongues without an interpreter so that the hearer can understand. In verse 2, the reason that the person speaks “not to men but to God” is because there is no interpreter, and only God can understand what he is saying. The reason it is a “mystery” is because there is no interpreter, so the hearers don’t understand. He’s saying that’s a BAD thing!! Imagine I’m speaking tongues in French. Only God understands me, but my hearers don’t. That’s the entire point. And note there is NO mention of a non-human language (angelic language) here! In verse 4, this REBUKE is reiterated. Chapter 12 is about how the very purpose of the gifts is for the building up of the body (church), not to draw attention to the individual. Paul says “the one who speaks in a tongue builds himself up.” This is a REBUKE (it’s drawing attention to the individual, but not accomplishing what it is intended to). This is made clear in the next part, “BUT the one who prophesies builds up the church.” (I.e. achieves what the gifts are intended to achieve). In verse 5 Paul reiterates this further again!! He says that prophecy is better than tongues UNLESS someone interprets SO THAT the church may he built up (i.e. accomplish the very purpose for all gifts, including the gifts of tongues).
Tongues 1 Corinthians 14:28 NOWHERE does he say speak to God in tongues. Firstly he says if no one is there to interpret the tongues, then be silent (i.e. don’t speak in the tongues). Secondly, he says “speak to himself and to God”. He DOESN’T say that this “speaking to God” in in tongues. How does a person speak to God? In an intelligible language (or in his heart).
Hi Matt! I realize this video is a little older but, I’m curious about Acts 19:1-6. I have been taught in my later years that we get the Holy Spirit as soon as we repent and believe on the Lord Jesus. That’s not what those verses say though. It was a different event according to those verses. Can you help me to understand? I don’t speak in tongues but have been around many different denominations in my 45 years. I know there are other passages that make it sound like it’s a different event too.
It fulfilled what Jesus said to Samaria Jerusalem to the uttermost parts (gentile) just verification that were accepted. That's it. It's not difficult. How about the eunuch ? Or the 3000 saved on Pentecost ? Did they speak in tounges ? How about Timothy and Titus ? Why didn't he mention it in church set up ? Make sure they pray in tounges Timothy ?
"2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries." To have your interpretation of this verse, you have to change the word 'however' to 'moreover'. Also, regarding praying in tongues in your alone time: "1 Corinthian 14:18 "I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all; 19 yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue." - The Apostle Paul says he speaks with tongues more than anyone, but not in the church unless there is 'understanding' available, so he must have spoken in tongues in his alone time.
No, he spoke tongues in church with an interpreter, or in the mission field. No mention of him speak in tongues alone. No mention in the Bible of anyone. Speak in tongues alone. As for “speaking not to men, but to God.” What that is saying is no man can understand the person without an interpreter. It makes no sense to people. Only God knows what this person is doing (fake tongues). It’s used in a negative way.
@@lionoffireraw You are saying that Paul is warning us against speaking in tongues when we are alone in our prayer closet, and if that were the case, why isn't he warning us of the harm that can come from that? No, if Paul wanted us to refrain from using tongues when we are alone he would have come right out and said that. You are bending and twisting God's Word to make it fit your agenda. Besides, the only 'harm' that can come from praying in tongues alone, it seems, is being edified. Fake tongues is disturbing, yes, but trying to stamp out real tongues because of that is even more disturbing.
Thank you for speaking on this. While I do believe the gift of tongues is still in use and have spoken in genuine tongues when God has commanded me, I just cannot be around those who claim to have this spiritual gift yet speak without an interpreter. My worst experience was when I was in a young adult group session at a church I thought God may want me to attend, and the group leader started speaking in what she supposed was tongues. Within 30 seconds I felt this demonic, hateful thing lunge at me from where she was sitting, and felt it try to hurt me. To this day I still don't entirely know what to make of that experience and of that person's faith, but I do know with absolute certainty that that spiritual entity was not of God and that it wanted to hurt me, but God protected me and made it very clear that He did not want me there.
I have a background in pentecostalism (not to be confused with "charismania"). I was more into the culture rather than the teaching, that being simplicity in lifestyle. Many do not have television in their homes which I still adhere to. They also generally require modesty in attire. They frown at jewelry which I am not strict with so long as one does not look like a tackle box. I personally do not have any jewelry, not even a tie clip. However that is a matter of personal culture rather than biblical interpretation. What they often refer to as a "holiness standard" without love is nothing more than a costume party. Years ago I heard a pentecostal minister say something to the effect "I would almost rather not see the gifts of the Spirit used than misused. This only confuses the redeemed and the lost". Then he proceeded to misuse tongues. A few minutes later a lady stood up who had a "word". She started out by saying "Yea". Everyone knows when God has a word He says "Yea" after all He always speaks in King James English. Of course I refused to accept her "word". She also had one hand raised as she moved about as though she was having a seizure. This is common among pentecostals. Respect your bought and paid for relationship with the Almighty. Don't go.
I take this position on speaking in tongues because I used to be one who didn't believe it was necessary to speak in tongues. So I do know what I am talking about.
I agree with much of what you have said. It's hard to know what tongues are actually from the true Holy Spirit. When GOD brought me out of multiple doctrines: charismatic, Hebrew Roots, and new age, He gave me a dream about a serpent spirit with the name "kundalini". I didn’t know what that was. GOD showed me over the time after that what that spirit is. He revealed the Kundalini and Shekinah false spirits to me and freed me from those doctrines. Satan comes as an angel of light and his ministers as ministers of righteousness. This false spirit can make you feel so good and so peaceful. But eventually after a time, you will start to have different kinds of torment in your life and body. In many false religions there are kinds of "tongues" with these two spirits as the spirit behind them. I stopped speaking in tongues because I didn’t want it to be possibly bringing back a false spirit.
Amen! I also stopped while i was sick and i didn't understand why the need to speak in tongues went away during my sickness..I asked Holy Spirit to teach me the truth about tongues cause i began to have doubts about it...i studied the bible in context for the first time...repented and never felt the need to go back..I wasn't sure about the spirit behind it cause it felt good but i knew i wasn't giving honor to the Holy Spirit ...Had a lack of humility and was becoming more prideful...I thank God for teaching me the truth..The lord chastises those he loves...Glory to God!!!
Hello Matt (I finally heard your name on a video. I'm Loren.) I share many of your concerns over tongues, but I'm keen not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. If someone is genuinely speaking in tongues, but they're speaking in strife; and someone else is sincerely trying to please God, but it doesn't sound real -- which one do you think God would respect more? As a young Christian, I became interested in speaking in tongues, but I prayed God would give me interpretation also, so I would know I wasn't kidding myself. He gave me eight lines, and I wrote it all down. I have a background in languages and also in cryptology, so even though I didn't know what it said, I could tell it was a real language. I even began to work out some of its grammatical rules and some basic sentence structure. After a few days, I felt that that God gave me the interpretation of the first line only. Then the second, etc, one line at a time. When I reached the last line my hearts nearly sank, because I suddenly realized that one of my rules and the interpreted words on that line, if they were true, would also have appeared back in the first line - and by then the dye was cast. Imagine my astonishment when I saw that everything still held up perfectly. I shared the message in my group the next time we met. Now I will admit that I am still shy over tongues, because there is so much abuse. But here's a couple more points based on Human limitations. It takes a tremendous amount of faith to interpret, when you know that someone else in the room may understand this tongue as their natural language, and contradict you. Second. When someone does speak out and you feel you have the interpretation, they need to allow you the space for it. I well recall once when someone was speaking in tongues, and I knew that I knew I was getting every word of it, and I was ready -- but then he kept going and going, and never shut up. I just couldn't keep up with all that, to remember so long a message in one take. After a while, the quality dropped off into some sort of babbling, but still kept going -- but the damage was done. The opportunity was lost. One of the chiefest dangers I see in tongues and interpretation, is the mistaken notion that tongues are the same thing as prophecy. So the interpretation comes out, "Yea, My Children thus says the Lord." But this cannot possibly be the case, since 'He who speaks in an unknown tongues speaks not unto men, but unto God." The danger appears because, unlike prophecy which is judged, interpretations that come forth as a word from God that is not being judged. I am under the impression that if we take God seriously in the safeguards He applies with spiritual gifts, then we will see just how seriously He works through them. When I look comprehensively at what the Bible says about tongues, I reached the conclusion that, structurally speaking, they are similar to psalms. They 'declare the mighty works of God,' they 'bless in the spirit.' they 'give thanks well.,' This is why their interpretation edifies the church; and this is why the individual still feels edified in his spirit, even without the interpretation (a point on which we do disagree.) In fact, Paul says that we may simply share a psalm in our natural language, just as we would share a spiritual gift. No one seems to do that any more, but it's really beautiful when they do. You made many fine points in this video. It's hard being controversial. Thanks for making it.
3:07 oh whaat? How are you seeing that?! Read it for what it is man … it’s straightforward. He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself - what does edify mean? It means to encourage and build Up and strengthen!
I thought it was no point to reply, but ya know what, ironic speech is exactly what you said - Paul calling himself a fool sarcastically or something, knowing the opposite is true. That is the example of ironic speech. The tongues being used as edification simply is NOT ironic speech. How is ironic speech used here at all? It’s not sarcastic, he doesn’t mean the opposite at all. Like I said, it’s straightforward and plain and should in this case be taken literally.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control." I was twice used to explain something to someone from the Bible and church, and it felt I was spoken through, using my brain, knowledge and voice. The people were uplifted. An older pastor in the church told me I have the gift of encouragement. Maybe I need that myself too oftentimes. 😊
I have a native Spanish speaking friend who was invited to attend a Pentecostal service by a lady he was dating. He's Catholic, I'm Baptist but he was asking for advice. I encouraged him to go & when people started "speaking in tongues" he should start shouting en español. He went only once & I was sorely disappointed that he never tried that.
The only time I was once and only officially able to speak in tongues was only in my bedroom about a year and a half after I physically baptized myself into Mashiyachim. That was only my official confirmation of Creator accepting me as his own adopted child. I have never been able to do that in churches, especially Pentacle church after I was baptized in name Jesus Christ!!! Never, including at home while praying. But I sure did after baptizing myself in my own tub, around a year and a half later, and I was praying about something. I never felt "burning" in my chest, etc, either. I just started praying faster in the middle of praying, and that's when I started speaking in another language. I never expected that to happen either. Now I am permanently out of Christianity for good!!!! I don't miss it either!!! I am free now!!!
Been praying in tongues since age 16. Ive kept 50 years worth of journals of prayers answered in wonderful ways. This has mostly been private prayers in tongues done alone but have also been part of corporate prayers with other believers all praying in the Spirit. Sometimes its impossible to know how to pray about difficult situations. It is a gift from the Lord, a genuine blessing!
That form of tongues is simply not-Biblical. But God can certainly move in-spite one’s false beliefs, not because of it. When we don’t know what to pray for, the Holy Spirit intercedes for us (Romans 8:26-27). This is not talking about “speaking in tongues.” So don’t need “tongues” when we don’t know what to pray for. But as I said in the video, there is no such thing, biblically, as “tongues” as a secret/private prayer language. It just does not exist in Scripture. In fact, it’s a 19th century invention!!
@@lionoffireraw 1 Corinthians 14:2. King James Bible For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
@@righteousrebelmedia5934 “speaking not to men, but to God” - means that only God can understand I.e. it serves no purpose for the people in the church, without an interpreter (that’s the whole context). It’s saying this is a BAD thing, not a good thing! It’s not saying that it’s a prayer language. Babble tongues is a 19th Century invention.
I happened to call it gibberish, referring to this 'speaking in tongues' when my then pastor called me unkind for saying so. There was only me and possibly my late sister there at the time. I try to be kind, but I believe that truth is more important. The Biblical speaking in tongues clearly referred to known languages of the time. People from different places in the Roman Empire understood what the disciples were saying about God. They couldn't have if it was just gibberish as Kenneth Copeland and his ilk try to persuade people to believe. Funny, I was just reading about this earlier today in Acts.
I also seen people use Jude 1:20 «But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,» Saying that is praying in tongues .. I just come out of this teachings and I practiced speaking in tongues, and I can say that I am quit confused. I only try to find the truth about it. What would you say the scripture saying here ? Thank you for your teaching. God bless you
It can be confusing because people call praying in “tongues” praying in the Spirit. But these concepts are NOT synonymous. Praying in the Holy Spirit does NOT mean praying in tongues (in that verse, or in any verse). It simply means praying with the Holy Spirit inside of us (and in tune with the Spirit).
@@lionoffireraw please, I wonder how can we pray in tune with the Holy Spirit ? So all this babbling it’s just vain? I heard apostles and prophets say you must pray in tongues for many many hours… yet when I did I couldn’t understand why I never get edified, like it is written in 1 Corinthians 14:4
Jamás entendí qué dicen y jamás me dió una buena sensación en el corazón ni en el espíritu. No sé por qué lo hacen. Supongo como dicen en otro comentario, que es un tipo de personalidad. Pero no puedo entender cómo es que se aferran a repetir algo que no entienden y no saben si realmente están diciendo en todo caso algo bueno o algo malo. Dios me perdone si estoy equivocada. Pero yo no lo siento sano. Ni tampoco bíblico. Abrazos y gracias por tocar el tema. Bendiciones 🙏🏽
Three things to note…
1) Tongues in the Bible are NEVER (not even once) anything other than another human language.
2) Tongues in the Bible are NEVER prayed privately, only between an individual and God. They are always spoken/prayed in the presence of others, FOR their edification.
3) The Bible teaches that tongues must ALWAYS have an interpreter, in EVERY instance!
On point 3, if this is an intelligible human language, such as me as an Englishman speaking Chinese although I've never learned the language, why would an interpreter be needed? The whole point of what happened in Acts 2 is that people from various parts of the world WOULD have needed an interpreter to understand what these Galilaeans were saying, but because of God giving them the ability to speak other languages, an interpreter was not needed.
The Bible calls tongues "the tongues of men and angels" I Corinthians 13:1.
"For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries." I Corinthians 14:2
If tongues were readily understandable they would not need interpretation.
Mark 16:17 says, "And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;"
@@jannaswanson271 so are you arguing for the gift of tongues as an unintelligible language?
@@shaunhunterit342 The Bible calls tongues the "tongues of men and angels", not the tongues of men only.
I speak in tongues. I have prayed for interpretation but have not yet received that understanding.
So tongues are always intelligent, they are languages and therefore were created by Yahuah. Yet they are also a mystery when we don't understand them.
@@shaunhunterit342 The tongues would be for the person/persons that speak another language or other languages; but the interpreter would be for those who the Spirit was not addressing.
There are some denominations that put speaking in tongues above the Word!!!!!I use to attend a church that taught if you didn't speak in tongues your not saved!!!!! Such egregious/ erroneous teaching!!!!!!!
Crazy!!
upc? I know they teach it as evidence of having received the Holy ghost.
Any teaching that start go forgot about Jesus sacrifice in the cross definitely go error
The other form of it is by saying someone must get saved by doing works for God
When Salvation is gift, carry the cross is the work so later we get reward that being mention in Revelation, about the crowns
Salvation being design so in order no one can boast that they get saved by such mean that doesnt need Jesus
But many forgot about it and it is sad
The United Pentacostal Churches and One-ness Churches seem to believe this.
@Greg. Yep - Holiness/ Pentecostal church!!!!
A woman came to me. Back in August, talking about God - saying 'if you dont speak in tongues you are not baptised by the holy spirit' she goes down alot of mornings 'praying in tongues' by herself , by the ocean - that very same area suffered damaged and extrodinary high waves that pushed huge rocks out of the ocean -
I stopped going there but meeting her caused me alot of doubt and anxiety , ive been praying about it and it was good to hear you talk the truth about it , in your previous videeo about it , where you demonstrated , i laughed out loud - thank you for keeping it real and simple 💝
Glad it helped 😃
The enemy tries to bring confusion, The Lord leads us in Righteousness. Praise God 🙏
if you believe jesus christ as your lord and saviour then you're saved and sealed unto the day of redemption with the holy spirit. simple! no need for tongues to be saved
I must say that I speak in tongues. At the begining it was a pastor who introduced it to me. I had questioned it, and sropped using it for some years. But one night, when i was praying, i started praying back in tongues and I remember clearly some words that I said. I went researching the words and found out it was Hebrew that I was speaking, and all the words were praising and magnifying God. That gave my heart comfort. I never ever knew Hebrew words except for the common ones, like how God is referred to as like Jireh, raffa, neisi etc.
Did you mean that in that area people died?
Your thumbnail cracked me up. That kind of speaking has always made my hair stand up, as a non-believer and now as a Christian. The first church I went to after accepting Christ was Pentecostal. It was a tiny congregation, but everyone spoke in tongues throughout every service (the pastor would do it maybe once per service). I was led to believe the gift of tongues was automatic at baptism, so when I was baptized and didn't receive it, I definitely thought something was wrong with me!
Thank God for the Bible, where I eventually read that's not how tongues works. I appreciate you for bringing more light to this subject.
You’re welcome.
Hopefully this video helps many!!
Matt 🙏
The apostle Paul taught against everybody speaking in tongues IN CHURCH, teaching that only two or three speak in tongues IN CHURCH so that those tongues could be interpreted and thereby have the whole church edified by the message, rather than just the tongue speaker being edified (built up in faith). Paul also wrote in his 1 letter to the Corinthians that 'not everyone speaks in tongues' 1 Cor 12:30. So every Pentecostal or Charismatic church who come together and speak in tongues are going against Paul's teaching on church function.
I’m at church and the same thing with Me sometimes people start speaking in tongues and I don’t feel the Holy Spirit or anything. It scares me and some of them just do these weird noises and it is scary.
I agree, I never thought it felt right to even witness. And it sounds exactly like this new age “light language” aka “demon language”.
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In my experience, there seems to be a correlation between an insistence on speaking in tongues and certain personality types. Like you said, people who like to draw attention to themselves, or those who feel they have something to prove about their spirituality. Thanks for covering this, Matt, and for doing the due diligence to pull out every relevant scripture. 😊
Here is Scripture disproving you: "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit." 1 corinthians 14:2
Also if tongues would only be in other human languages then why would Paul write this?:"I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding" 1 Corinthians 14:18
Why would he pray in tongues "more than ye all" by himself to God (outside church) if it was only different human languages?
Tongues is mainly used as a personal prayer to God when no other people hear. So how can it be to get attention from people? Makes no sense. Youre speaking out of ignorance.
From someone who has experienced some surprising things with my prayer language I will list these two instances. A young lady who taught multiple languages was in a car with a group of us abruptly started shouting at me as several of us were singing a worship song that was on the radio. We were alternating singing in tongues and in english. The driver stopped to see if she was ok and checked to see why she was yelling. She said I can understand what you're saying! You are singing about the Lordship of Jesus! She told me to do it again but I told her i didn't know what i was singing or how make it happen but we could just go back to singing and see what occurred. After a very short time It happened again and we all rejoiced together. I experienced another time when I was speaking to a newer convert than I was, and as we began to praying tongues we both found ourselves saying the same thing for multiple phrases, ( sentences) until we found ourselves rejoicing in the Lord. We stopped stared again and within a few seconds again began saying exactly the same wording tongues at the exactly same time. What a wonder. I think the Lord wants us to be able to be more free to experience His Holy Spirit in multiple ways. I haven't given the scriptures because others have already listed them. The church has been all lecture and no lab for far too long. I would love to have a bible study in which we were able to talk about some of these things more freely. PS thank you for posting opinions that dont exactly line up with yours. I really respect that.
Good testimony. People often limit God and His miraculous ways and gifts because of their own lack of understanding of the scriptures. Without faith it is impossible to please Him. We can actually trust God to use unknown tongues through us to bless the body of Christ and to build ourselves up in the Holy Spirit as well.
what "tongues" were you singing in? Did you mean foreign languages, like Igala (spoken in Nigeria), Russians, Japanese, etc?
@@acorte52 great testimony!
My friend went to a church event in France. He doesn’t speak French at all, but still enjoyed the service even though he didn’t understand what they were saying. During the worship service he was singing in tongues and praising the Lord and the girl in front kept staring at him and crying. At the end of the service she came up to him and couldn’t thank him enough. She received a message from God through him. It was message she needed. Apparently he was speaking to her in fluent French.
Amen, thank you for sharing. We can’t be led astray by false teachings!
Thank you. This has been one of the most challenging things to pinpoint truth on for me as one who grew up in a very chaotic charismatic atmosphere. It was such a painful thing to try to push through the clutter to find the simple gospel message as a child and young adult. After finally leaving that mess behind and spending time seeking what the Word actually says, the conclusions I have found there are confirmed in what you have shared here. It is so helpful to hear others say it. As to being a cessationist or a continuist...After I first walked away, I ran as far from any talk of gifts as I could out of fear of being sucked back in. However, after much study and a lot of prayer, I have come to a more balanced thought in recent years. I cannot turn aside from the truth gifts still exist, but I now see that the main problem in the old teachings I once sat under was that they prescribed a manufactured, one-size-fits-all approach. It was a vanity-filled, me-centered exercise. I now recognize God is sovereign. He gives and moves as HE wills. His PERFECT will. Never our own. The crux of the problem is when we forget that.
I agree with much of this, and I’m glad you’re out of there!! I will never be a cessationist (or Calvinist), but I will never get caught up in NAR nonsense either!!
Amen!!!
Spot on again bro!
Very well articulated.
Isn’t great how, wedged in between the two chapters in 1 Cor about the gifts, is a wonderful instruction on what motivates the selfless exercise of the gifts.
Brother, you are 100% right.
The first instance ever recorded in the Book of acts about speaking in tongues was the fact the Jewish Believers in Jerusalem were now speaking in the languages of those people that came from other nations.
They did not know what they were speaking but those from other nations could hear that they were speaking in in their language. There's the foundation of speaking in tongues. Its a known language to the hearer but not to the speaker (The speaker will only understand what he speaks if God gives him the interpretation). All these gibberish I hear in the church is no speaking in tongues...its just gibberish.
I already quoted Scripture disproving you: "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit." 1 corinthians 14:2
Also if tongues would only be in other human languages then why would Paul write this?:"I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding" 1 Corinthians 14:18
Why would he pray in tongues "more than ye all" by himself to God (outside church) if it was only different human languages?
@@neam5446 3:05 hear this man😃✋, then talk
Agree @@neam5446
@@neam5446 True. And why do deniers of the gift FROM GOD never mention the tongues of angels (1 Cor 13:1)?
The word tongues means language and I completely agree that is the context with which the Bible means the word be understood. Earthly languages.
Greetings from Kansas. Hope you are doing well.
"If I speak in the tongues of men AND of angels, but have not love, I have become like a banging gong..."
I could never understand why some words are not translated properly like.
Tongues - language
Baptised - emersed
Angel - messenger.
Sometimes, the message changes.
Here is Scripture disproving you: "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit." 1 corinthians 14:2
Also if tongues would only be in other human languages then why would Paul write this?:"I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding" 1 Corinthians 14:18
Why would he pray in tongues "more than ye all" by himself to God (outside church) if it was only different human languages?
Excellent. I walked away from the Pentecostal doctrine a few years ago. Was constantly questioning myself, as some friends stand their ground on this and it’s the “evidence” we are filled with the Holy Ghost! God has shown me different and it’s just as you say. I just don’t argue with them now.
I don’t care any longer to prove them wrong as I once did. I just give that to the Lord to sort out. Thank you!
when you speak with tongues your spirit prays
@jeanclaude7018 It says He will pray IN THE SPIRIT and pray with my under standing also stop lying , In the spirit is to Speak with tongues You are a liar
@jeanclaude7018 He says HE WILL PRAY IN THE SPIRIT , and he will pray with his understanding Also , He is speaking in Tongues and he is praying where you can under stand also
Here is Scripture disproving you: "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit." 1 corinthians 14:2
Also if tongues would only be in other human languages then why would Paul write this?:"I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding" 1 Corinthians 14:18
Why would he pray in tongues "more than ye all" by himself to God (outside church) if it was only different human languages?
@@neam5446 Thats the main scripture Baptist need to go by
Thank you for this interpretation. I had taught a children’s choir a song in Yoruba, an African tongue. Unknown to us there were 3 visitors form Nigeria visiting us on the Sunday we debuted it. The men were so happy to hear this sacred song in their native language and they desired to know how I knew they would be there had been no prior notification that they’d be there. God is simply awesome.❤
Thank you for this. I asked God to help me understand if what they call 'tongues' is from Him.. and I'm grateful He's protected me from people 'imparting' them to me.
This video confirms so much! Thank you 💗
Hey brother I don't quite see it the way you do on this subject , I 100 % agree there Is false tongues in the charismatic church just like there are false doctrines , false teachers etc etc , but I do believe the bible shows there are different tongues , the bible says in 1 corinthians 14 -2 for one who speaks in a tongue speaks to God not to man for no one understands him , so that can't be a known language in this case if no one understands him
I do think certain tongues are known languages, and others are to be interpreted, others are for private prayer , in 1 corinthians 12- 10 it says various kinds of tongues , and I don't think the bible is saying when you speak in tongues and are building yourself up it is a bad thing paul goes on to say the one who prophesies is greater because it builds up the church , in Jude 1-20 encourages us to build ourselves up in our holiest faith by praying in the Holy spirit .
Obviously I know certain people my see it different but I believe we are still all brothers and sisters in Christ I just don't let false tongues , false teachers , prophets etc stop me personally believe what scriptures I think show an teach 🙏
The reason no one understands him in 1 Cor 14:2 is because there is no interpretation. If someone in the room spoke that language (or had the gift of interpretation) they could interpret it.
Paul is saying WITHOUT interpretation, no one understands it. That’s the context. Not that it’s not a language that anyone in the world speaks!!
I would say that various kinds of tongues means just that; various types of (human) languages. Not all tongues are in one specific human language.
@lionoffireraw it doesn't make sense to me that tongues always has to be a known language in acts 2 it was tongues for a sign to unbelievers so it was a known language yet in corinthians paul talks about praying in tongues 14-14 , he speaks about speaking in tongues in the church so now to believers and clarifies this by saying someone needs the gift of interpretation to understand that type of tongue so that cannot be a known language otherwise you wouldn't need the gift of interpretation? Obviously in acts 2 the unbelievers didn't have the gift of interpretation they understood because it was a known language, so if the believers in the church hear a tongue and nobody understands it unless they have the gift of interpretation then that doesn't sound like a known language if it was a known language that would make the gift of interpretation worthless , and listening to people like David wilkersom , dereck prince , carter conlon , these people love and preach context and they helped me greatly understand what paul was writing to us but I respect you see it different brother just giving you my understanding like you are to me God bless 🙏
Thank you for your comments. There is just no hint of any secret language. This is something that came into existence around 1900, and has been inserted into peoples understanding of the text. It makes perfect sense for someone to speak in tongues in a human language, that no one in the service speaks, and then have someone with the gift of interpretation of that language. In no way is this negated by the gift of interpretation.
My issue is that there simply is no occurrence in the Bible of anyone speaking tongues other than a known human language.
As I demonstrated in the video, those passages which people used to suggest it is a prayer language, are easily explained away in the context of the passage.
I believe that many people today are sincere in there seeking, and experiences, but the Bible simply does not communicate that anything other than human language even exists.
@@tckirk2827 "I don't think the bible is saying when you speak in tongues and are building yourself up it is a bad thing"
exactly. This isn't the first time I'm hearing someone suggest that Paul is criticising or rebuking the church for doing this. I think we know when Paul is rebuking the church as he doesn't aim to be subtle.
i understand that there is a lot of abuse and if you speak in a service in tongues it should be with an interpretation for you should build up the church, to boast or to exalt yourself above others is a problem of the flesh. I am grateful to speak in tongues it has often builded me up, when I did not know what to pray, it builded me up and gives me strength but it is not an emotional high and certainly does not mean I am some sort of an elite. but it does certainly not mean I am influenced by a demonic spirit. I asked god for it , and he would not have given me a bad spirit.
Thank you. This has bothered me my whole life.
I was raised in the COG TN, and tongues, slain in the Spirit, and lots of hollering/shaking were part of almost every srvice.
My family believes if you dont speak in tongues, your salvation is in question.
Ive always thought there is something wrong with me & my relationship with the Lord because of this.
I understand more now as Ive grown older, but tbh, its still in the back of my mind that my salvation is 'less than'. 😢
Maybe consider that when you ask Jesus to save you, He is part of the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) and cannot be divided or separated. If Jesus is in you, so is the Holy Spirit.
Don’t believe the lie.
These are false manifestations.
Stay strong in God alone!
I was raised in a free holiness church. Lots of the expressions like you mentioned. Shaking, hollering, clapping, falling in the floor, speaking in tongues (but not actual languages, just sounds with the mouth almost like “la la la”) etc. They taught that how you know you got the Holy Ghost is if you spoke in tongues (they would use the book of Acts).
Why is it that when you think you’ve found an all round, sound in doctrine teacher, something pops up that disappoints and bewilders. Acts 2 doesn’t say that the tongue speakers were speaking known languages. It says ‘every man HEARD them speak in their own language’. And what about 1 Cor 14? The people were excited and like selfish little children with a new toy, so Paul had to rein them in and give them some teaching on how to conduct themselves in church with this new gift. Think of others, don’t hog the soundwaves, wait your turn, edification of others more important, wait til you get home and then talk to God, He will understand because your spirit is praying not your understanding. Brother I know you’re sincere but please hear me. You are the one who prays in tongues, not God. It’s a gift He has given you. Look at Paul’s language. Only with an interpreter, two or three at most. These imply voluntary action. It’s amazing how this is still being attacked from inside the church today. Bless you.
There’s simply no explicit example in the Bible of anyone praying “privately” in “tongues.” Nor is there any explicit example whatsoever of tongues being anything other than communicating in another human language. This is all a recent invention.
I know that you are most likely sincere, and genuinely believe that your experience is real, but sadly it’s not biblical. There are other religions and philosophies that also talk in these “babble tongues,” and believe what they are doing is real because they “feel it.”
Tongues is a real gift today, but it’s not something used in private (even the praying in 1 Cor 14 is IN THE CHURCH), nor is it this form of unbiblical “babble.” It’s understood as other human languages.
I know it’s hard to let go of things, but this teaching at the very least, demonstrates that there is zero example biblically of tongues used in private prayer, or spoken in a way that isn’t understood by the hearer as another human language.
So the entire theology is being READ INTO THE TEXT!!
When you speak in tongues you speak to God not man
@@lionoffireraw Let him speak to himself and GOD
@@lionoffireraw You may be right on a lot of doctrine but on this one you are wrong. th-cam.com/video/mZ8zOa-hBQs/w-d-xo.html
People spoke in tongues as God gave utterance, not the other way around.
I used to think this way. Tongues and healings are the two gifts that are mentioned clearly as plural, meaning there are a bunch of different versions and variations. No wonder they are the two most controversial and hardest to understand. We disagree, but I won’t get into details because it’s not good to argue over disputable matters. I hope you’re blessed brother.
Tongues plural simply means different human languages. Not all speak the same tongue/language when exercising the gift. Someone might speak Spanish, someone else might speak Chinese.
@@lionoffireraw thanks for your opinion! I used to think the same. Keep moving forward for the Kingdom! Bless you bro!
Coward.
1 Corinthians 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue [his own native language] pray that he may interpret.
1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue [unknown to others], my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
"My understanding is unfruitful": Although i have understanding, it does not profit those who cannot understand my language.
Yes!! I have spent the last couple of years trying to find a video that perfectly represents what I see scripturally and this is it to a t! I've always said I'm not full cessationist and I'm not fully continuationist, but really what I mean is that I don't see these gifts happening today like they were in biblical times, and what I do see happening is not biblical at all. I do believe these gifts are happening today, however I have yet to see personally, like you said, where people and churches are using the gifts in the correct and biblical order.
I used to be 100% cessationist until the Lord gave me visions, and then another time when my husband spoke in tongues. It was a time our family was under severe spiritual attack, and we were all praying in the livingroom together. All of a sudden in the middle of my husband's prayer he suddenly said something in tongues, very briefly, and you could literally feel the demonic presence leave our house, like a wind rushing by us. I remember us looking at eachother like "what just happened👀" because it wasn't something he'd planned to do or had ever done in the past. But right after that we were able to find out what words he spoke, and it was in Hebrew.
So yes, I totally stand with you on this. I also now believe the gifts are happening today, however it seems they are rarely happening in the biblical order and very rarely do you see it happening in such order.
My Pastor from the Sevenday Adventist church was preaching the gospel on the radio in english and a man heard him preaching in his native language. That's the real gift of tounges! Praise God for his testimony. Shalom.
can you share so we can hear too please ?
No, he didn’t.
😂😂😂
i once spoke in tongues. i was attacked by satan that i blasphemed against the Holy Spirit when i guit for many years after that. i was in total agony for a long time. that was over 4o years ago. i found a book called i once spoke in tongues that helped some. the things i seen and experienced is beyond comprehension. i was anew Christen and was took to a assembly of god church where i was told i had to be baptized by the holy and speak in tongues or i was not saved yet. yet this opened the door to spiritual wickedness that sifted me like wheat. stay away from these things or you could suffer untold agony for a long time. i am talking about tongues ,,slain in the spirit , dancing in the spirit, tongues of fire, running in the spirit , visions, and much more. it is no joke!!
tongues and visions are biblical, but not like the charsmiatic heretical churches where they deceptively and use it unorganised im glad you've seen the truth as well
I had a similar experience and once i discovered the biblical truth about tongues, my life changed for the better...I have had fewer and fewer satanic attacks since the cessation of this practice because the doors that I opened before are now closed.... the truth makes us free... Amen!
I had this very same thing happened to me. I was in college, very much engrossed into my studies and studying the Bible and arguing biblical content with fellow college students. Although I say arguing, I mean more so discussing points, etc. My attack from Satan didn’t necessarily come from the fact that I was speaking in tongues, but it was that I was at the height of my spiritual walk. Satan attempted to accuse me of the same thing you said, happened to you. The Bible says “there are powers and principalities we know not of”.
I can very much relate to what you experienced. I think the attack from Satan comes because he knows that he must shut down those that are the most effective for spreading the Gospel.
the enemy will leave you alone when you’re doing his will
I agree 💯 with you. I have always, ALWAYS felt uncomfortable if I was close to somebody speaking in tongues. It made me irritable as it drew my attention away from the actual service or time of prayer.
I could most of the time have a feeling that it was fake. But I felt guilty feeling that way as it came to mind that they could speak in tongues and I could not. I, therefore, rather stayed home and avoided going to church.
Your teachings really make a lot of things/ questions clear to me. Thank you. It is so much appreciated.
This is a contentious issue but you have confirmed my understanding with great clarity. Thank you.
God bless you sister Sue, good to see you.
You continue to bring a smile to my face. What a wonderful blessing it is to be part of this body, loving and supporting each other as we continue on our journey in Christ. God bless you too Susan. @@susananderson9124
@@susananderson9124 Lovely to see you Susan as we journey forward together in the body of Christ. Many blessings to you too.
As a pentecostal i think you maybe right about this, i never felt comfortable speaking in tongues and every time i did i felt i had to convince myself that i was, but your interpretation from paul makes a lot of sense, ill have to study this for myself, thanks for sharing 👍
God bless you. You seem like you have an open mind. Matt 🙏
GOD LOVES YOU! dont be ashamed of God and He shall not be ashamed of you! AMEN!
Every video I have watched, I have been in agreement and enjoyed. I have been blessed by your ministry and desire to stay true to the Word. Thank you!
Praise God. Thank you for your encouragement. Matt
Thank you for your response and so quickly. I lost it before I could dig into it. Would you mind te-sending it? I want to look into what you claim about rebuke.
This is important. All the best.
1 Corinthians 14 verse 18 says “I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than you all” and verse 19 adds “Yet IN THE CHURCH I had rather speak five words with my understanding”. So Paul differentiated between praying privately in tongues versus speaking in church. So saying this has nothing to do with a private prayer language is false.
No, he is talking about speaking in the church WITHOUT an interpreter where no one can understand (this is the entire context of the chapter).
The contrast to this is speaking in a church/public ministry WITH an interpreter, or someone who understands the tongue.
This isn’t implying private tongues at all!! You’re reading that into the text when it isn’t there.
Amen!!!
Exactly, sometimes i am tired, don’t know what to pray for, when i start with tongues the spirit helps me, and it is often confirmed laterwards in a biblical way through the word, guys i know how it feels to be hurt by the church but don’t throw the bay out with the bathwater. What we need is balance.
@@lionoffireraw he is contrasting his prayers in private (which he is saying is done in tongues) versus prophesying in the church which is public. The change was the setting as he said “Yet in the church” meaning publicly. If you don’t see it then it’s because you don’t want to.
No he was an evangelist who actually spoke in more tongues than them .as he traveled to different countries and preached the gospel. That's why in church he would rather speak with things understandable.
Excellent video brother!
mmmmm, you are wrong, it can't be said that all tongues are fake. Did the Lord tell you that what you were doing was not real or it was just a feeling. Please explain, when you first spoke in tongues what did you experience because if you just started putting sounds together for yourself indeed they were fake but if you experienced a touch from the Lord be careful not to blaspheme the things of the Lord because you will be held accountable
Interesting counter argument...
@@lionoffireraw If you blaspheme the holy ghost you cant be for giving
Matt, I’ve been praying in tongues solely in my prayer times since 1999… you just blew my mind tonight.
Thanks for being open and honest.
What are your thoughts now?
How did this video impact you?
@@lionoffireraw Well first of all, this is the first time I’ve ever heard a professing continuationist reject the “prayer language” concept when referencing tongues. To be honest, I don’t know if I’m ready to believe your exegesis on that. But I will be praying. For years, there was a certain effortlessness when I would pray in tongues in the context of my prayer time. I was encouraged to do so by my disciplers. I experienced many supernatural occurrences and deliverances during these times that pointed directly to scripture, and remember feeling so unbelievably blessed. Times where I struggled with sin so bad, I would break out the tongues, and a praise and worship song or Bible verse would pop out, and it was tremendously encouraging and got my mind back on the Lord… and to think I could have been influenced by something like the Kundalini spirit seems quite shocking. For years, I had friends who were 5-point Calvinists insist I was only speaking babble, that tongues are not for today, and the tongues I spoke were not biblical. I wanted to believe them, but couldn’t, because these people were *SO* dogmatic. No truth in love whatsoever. The words that come out of my mouth when I pray in tongues are not babble, but are languages I’ve been able to identify over the years as I’ve become exposed to Hebrew and Greek translations of the Bible, and as I’ve come in contact with native speakers of those languages. But these are only experiential “evidences.” They are not proof. The Bible is proof of what is true and not true.
Still, there is one experience involving the private use of tongues I would like to share with you that stood out to me. Okay, so we can all agree that the doctrines of “slain in the spirit” and being “drunk” in the Holy Spirit are false (I’ve denounced the charismatic church and most of its doctrine by the way). Well, one morning I was excited to spend time with the Lord, and of course, tongues eventually came into play, and gradually as things came to a lull, my body began to go dead weight. I thought I was being pressed into the bed I was kneeling against. Pretty soon, I lay silent, feeling TONS of peace, I go to stand upright, and I stumble around like a drunk person. I telephone one of my friends, slurring my words like a weirdo, and they were like, “Scott, it sound to me like you’re drunk in the Holy Spirit.” The only time I’d ever witnessed that sort of thing was in church meetings and I really didn’t think anything of it. It just was whatever it was. Then to have it happen to me during a time I’m genuinely trying to spend time seeking the presence of God-ALONE- was quite startling (I lived with a group of raging alcoholics at the time and was incredibly uncomfortable. Definitely seeking God and his comfort). Anyway, to look back on that and think I could have been under the influence of a demonic spirit makes me feel a little betrayed by God. Why would he send these charismatic Christians into my life to mentor me, only for me to become deceived? By the way, I was not fooled by their doctrine on female pastors. They were very dogmatic about that, and I smelled a rat, as I did with the word of faith stuff that they would sometimes spout off. My parents didn’t go to church, and these people were responsible for bringing me up in the ways of the Lord. I now renounce the charismatic church, and feel quite bitter for having been influenced by them. After they began ordaining women, they began sliding leftward, and now suddenly homosexuality (a sin I’ve repented of) is okay… or at least, they don’t like to dwell on that subject. *All* 3 of the people have become deceived, and one even died having gone back to his sin. I was orphaned so to speak, and these are people who the Lord used to develop my prayer life and my doctrine. Jesus used to be God in the charismatic church. Now humans are god. I know I already said it, but I have to say again that I feel very betrayed, and not sure what to believe now about the doctrine of tongues. It’s quite unsettling, really. Jesus is still my Savior and my God. The essential doctrines are settled as far as I’m concerned. Just really upset at being jerked around by Foursquare and Assemblies of God (I don’t mind calling them out, as they are apostate, and need to be marked and avoided). Sorry for the soliloquy.
My real name is Scott. I live in the states.
@@lionoffireraw Sorry, by the way, about the “drunk in the Spirit” part. I’ve never felt more at peace and carefree than that day. It was a very scary time for me, as I was living with drunks, and I wanted to know the Lord was there. I couldn’t have cared less about some kind of kooky “experience.” I wasn’t interested in that. As the years wore on, I became sick of the wet noodle doctrines that the charismatic church was teaching, and finally found a great church that teaches expositorally. Anyway, I have thought in recent years that while slain in the Spirit and “drunk” in the Spirit are indeed false doctrines, they do seem to be experiences that parallel with a lot of scripture. I just wonder if, when the Lord wants to punctuate a Biblical principle in the life of a believer, perhaps these things do happen? I won’t die on that battlefield, by the way. Lol
Thank you so much for opening up. It sounds like you’ve been able to identify a number of these false doctrines, despite pressure to the contrary from people in those churches.
I also reject those doctrines, and I also reject Calvinism too. It is completely unbiblical. It’s actually insane, and perverts the character of God.
I don’t believe in such things as being drunk in the spirit. One of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is self-control, so it makes no sense that someone would be stumbling around and slurring words if they were under the influence of the Holy Spirit.
I don’t think those experiences have any parallels with the experiences in the Bible, if you look closely.
You certainly shouldn’t feel betrayed by God. All sorts of people come across our path, and it’s up to us to be able to discern truth from error. His Spirit has helped you to discern much error already. Sadly many people get stuck in this type of error their whole lives.
As for tongues, I just don’t see it as a private prayer language, biblically. It seems to me like people have injected their own theology into the text. IMO, those passages are easily interpreted without anything to do with a private prayer language.
I guess there are some things for you to consider and to pray about after watching this video.
@@lionoffireraw I only use my gift of tongues as a private prayer language. "For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries." I Corinthians 14:2.
I have been to the Pentecostal churches and was so uneasy that I left the church for 20 years. Just because people act that way does not make the word wrong.
Just a little personal testimony about praying in tongues. As a relatively new believer I heard about tongues and was asking God for that gift. I was at my parents home on my knees in their bathroom when I first started praying in an unfamiliar unknown language. That language has developed greatly over the last 25 years. I came from quite a rough background and before that experience I couldn’t string a sentence together without swearing like a trooper, interestingly the swearing stopped after that experience.
I was working with a young Japanese girl in the UK at the time who has now been my wife of 25 years. I used to talk to her a lot about Jesus and gave her books to read of Christians testimonies. Tongue’s played a major part in her conversation as it was something that really stood out to her as something real as she read people’s testimonies of coming to faith in our Lord Jesus. One night she was on her own in her room and she was asking God if this was all real and she found herself speaking in a new language! I in the background had been sensing this could be the girl the Lord was calling me to marry. I had been actually asking the Lord to give her the gift of tongues so that I would know her conversion was real (and no I don’t believe you need to pray in tongues to have the Holy Spirit), but God is so good and that is exactly what happened. As I said my wife is Japanese and is certainly not given over to emotionalism. She has been praying in tongues in her private life for 25 years too and we thank God for that gift!
Is tongues used very immaturely today as it was being used in Corinth? Certainly! We need to be wise as Paul said how we use this gift in public meetings.
Sad today how many believers attack and belittle this gift. I for one am very grateful for this gift and thank God regularly for it!
I don’t believe in putting our personal experience above the scriptures either, but I believe the scriptures are clear Paul prayed regularly in tongues in private too and thanked God for that gift!
There is not a single example in the Bible of:
1. Anyone praying tongues privately
2. The gift of tongues being a non-human language
I explain both of these in the video.
You are wrong in your understanding of this brother. If you are truly honest you have to acknowledge you can not say for sure Paul when he said ‘I thank God I pray in tongues more than all of you’ wasn’t referring to praying in tongues privately too. I know from personal experience you can’t pray in tongues lots unless you do do it in private. That’s how I know you don’t really understand what you are talking about. I’ve also interpreted my tongues in private. Go figure!
@user-bi5fj3sy3i I am curious... for whose benefit did you interpret your tongues privately?
1 corinthians 14:22-24
22 Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign[a] not for unbelievers but for believers. 23 If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or outsider enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all,
Not yours.
Not long after I was saved I attended a Christian camp where some were speaking in tongues. I asked for the gift but couldn’t do it.. I tried for days on my own and it was just babble. However when I got back to work I told a co-worker (who was a Baptist) about the camp and how I’d asked for this gift. She basically rebuked me and said the gift of tongues was not of God. I was confused as the people I knew who had this gift were beautiful genuine Christians. I excused myself and went to the bathroom and said to God ‘God if this gift is truly from you please will you show me?’ And right then and there I spoke in tongues. It was not of me as I’d tried many times on my own to do it. It was a completely new language that flowed effortlessly. I thanked God for showing me the truth, that the gift of tongues was indeed of and from Him.
In saying that I have heard many people who speak in ‘tongues’ and it sounds like utter gibberish. I don’t believe everyone who thinks they have the gift necessary do.
Something similar happened with me, but then I realised that it was a false manifestation. This type of tongues doesn’t align up with what the Bible teaches! It’s easy to deceive ourselves with experiences.
@@lionoffireraw can you explain further what you mean by "false manifestation"? I'm sure you know if you just faked it or pretended or not. You either had control over it or you didn't... no?
Guys, if you are ignorant of spiritual things, rather than trying to justify your unbelief, seek God, and ask Him to show you the truth. Good articulation does not not equal spiritual wisdom. The disciples in the upper room didn't have a bible to check that it was the Holy Spirit when He came with power. They trusted in the person of Jesus, and in the personal relationship they had with Him. Don't get caught in legalism, but always test the spirits. Shalom
Be very careful what you are saying on this topic. People are seeking Jesus with all their hearts, they hunger to be close to Him and the Holy Spirit is drawing these people, to go and pray (in tongues) and seek His face. If you have doubt, seek God yourself, don't come with a self-righteous attitude that you know better, when your heart is far from God.
God will hold you accountable for every word.
We need to be biblical, not speak gibberish! Don’t be so ready to seek false manifestations just because you want a manifestation.
The Bible doesn’t tell us to seek the bible with all of our hearts, it instructs us to seek the LORD with all of our hearts. The bible is just a dead letter unless the Holy Spirit himself gives revelation. Why do you think the pharisees knew scripture but were dead white wash tombs?!
1 Corinthians 4:6 “Do not go beyond what is written.”
2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
I have a question - how are pagans (without the Holy Spirit) able to replicate the so called tounges, partial healings and not 100% accurate prophecies?
@lionoffireraw would really like to hear your opinion on people who say they pray in tongues and have the gift of interpretation (so they can tell you what they are praying about)?
I've written a paper when I was doing my theological studies.
While it's true that the tongues in the Bible were actual languagws, the "charismatic tongues" & some manifestations of the spirit are real. If you look into church history & how it all got started, you can't really explain them away. John Wesley, a logical & methodical man led meetings that involved such spiritual manifestations & he never condemned it.
I do however disagree with how the Pentecostals ran away with proof texting. But that doesn't mean the gift of such tongues are fake. We need to leave room for the Spirit & remember that it's only one of the many gifts of the Spirit, it's not a sign of salvation or more maturity/special/anointed. It's the only personal gift that does nothing for the church unless there is an interpreter (even that needs to be careful). No gift is given to all & not all Christians are given every gift. 1 cor teaches this clearly.
So don't throw the baby out with the water.
I am very glad to hear this good teaching. It is a very good explanation. In the intentionally brief amount of time given to explain this, it is the best I have ever heard. Good job.
I’m so glad that it blessed you. I try to make it concise and to the point! Matt 🙏
Yes I hv the same views n i posted a few posts on my channel about the true gifts of tongues!! If anyone feels offended n they should read n understand what the Torah actually says about the tongues but unfortunately many refuse to accept the truth because of pride over their believe they are gifts of holy spirit instead of meaningless chanting!
I think what most need to do here is instead of attacking our brother, why not read the scriptures and ask the Holy Spirit for understanding?
Thank you for this video brother God bless you 🙏💕🕊
God bless you. Matt 🙏
I sometimes feel compelled to pray in the metaphor of songs, but it can be understood through the hearts of others and I’m open to explain it to those I pray with/for this way.
When I first got saved, my husband and I went to a church, and I wasn't aware that it was Pentecostal. We went for a few weeks and nothing odd happened, my husband even got saved in that church. But the last time we went, I practically ran out of there. From the moment we got there, I had a major conflict going on inside me that I just couldn't shake. Believe me, I tried, because I started feeling guilty for having the urge to leave. I became nauseous, had a headache, and something inside of me kept saying, "You don't want to be here, you have to leave." I couldn't figure out why I was feeling that way. So during the worship service, while most of the congregation was standing and singing, I sat down and prayed. I asked God, is this Your Holy Spirit trying to tell me something? Or is it my human nature or Satan trying to push me out? I asked for His guidance, and I thanked Him. As I was getting to the end of my prayers, the pastor went up front and told the congregation that he could feel the Holy Spirit moving through, that he has the gift of speaking in tongues, knows a few others who have the gift, and then he started speaking a whole other language. I KNEW at that moment that I had to get out of there. I started urgently hitting my husband's arm and told him, "We gotta GO." We left immediately. I was shaking like a leaf and I felt like crying, and I have NEVER had that experience in church before. It shook me to my core, and I'll never forget it. Within minutes of us leaving, I felt perfectly fine. Strangest church experience of my life.
Well done for leaving!! So much nonsense going on these days!!
You shouldn't be taking charge over your husband like that. He is biblically the leader in your marriage. If it comes to the point of you physically hitting him it doesn't sound like you were leaving room for him to play his role at all.
@@shaunhunterit342theoretically he could have told her no if he disagreed. Maybe he was already feeling it and that was cobfitmation...
@@GregRickard I wouldn't take my wife hitting me in the arm as confirmation of anything but her disrespect
@@shaunhunterit342God gives all His children gifts. This one the woman has is discernment. Maybe her husband has a different one. That being said, she is definitely permitted to use her gift even with her husband. If I waited for my husband to use his discernment, which isn’t a gift of his, we would have been in a lot of “spiritual” danger, especially with our children. I’ve had to step up a lot in over 27 years and use my discernment to protect our family. Also, the husband needs to listen to his wife’s warnings while going thru life. That’s how God created a woman. She has instincts that he doesn’t. If he can’t listen to her, that’s called pride.
Beautifully put. God does not need a secret language. God needs no interpretation. And a reminder that practical messages are as much or more important mystical messages that are disconnected from reality. Thank you for helping my interpret this.
It’s a very divisive issue in the church. Our ladies Bible study blew up because of this topic.
I’m not surprised!!!
4:11 seriously? Paul said he prayed it more than anyone, and that meant he prayed it alone, seeing he was the one teaching that he doesn’t want people speaking in tongues in the church in the public setting, but prophesy - this by implication meant that he MUST have spoke it alone in prayer to God. It’s the only logical conclusion
1. It never said Paul prayed it alone.
2. He wants ORDER in the way it’s prayed in church. He is saying that without that order (which is the entire reason he is writing this chapter), it is better for prophecy to be spoken, because without interpretation the tongues is meaningless. That’s his entire point!!
@@lionoffireraw 1. He didn’t have to say it, but it’s clearly implied. 2. I do agree that’s the point of the passage for church use. However what ur missing is that Paul is giving a two-fold message - Paul is saying yes, order in the church, but alone pray to God in tongues in the spirit, because he does it all the time. We can argue all day I’m sure, and we will get nowhere. That’s my standpoint and most of the churches also. Not sure where you get your indoctrination from, but I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the matter. Be blessed …
You’re wrong bud. Just like he prayed it more than anyone doesn’t mean he did it in private, it could be in front of the church members.
1Corinthians 12:28-31 says not everyone has the gift of speaking in tongues. It’s not something everyone can do
@ true - as the verse you point out can’t be denied, not all speak with tongues. Can’t argue with that. But just coz that’s true, I think you are assuming that Paul only spoke in tongues in public, how do you know? And maybe I’m also assuming that he spoke it in private, but I still think there’s more evidence he did do it in private. But I could be wrong. I know in my own personal experience I speak with tongues alone and am edified in the Lord as I do so. So either I’m filled with the Spirit or am so deluded I only think I’m being filled with peace and strength … you decide, but I’m confident it’s the Lord, who only ever gives peace.
I fully agree with you, I spoke in "tongues" babling ones for over 20 years, i began seeking The Lord on this and He showed me exactly what He showed you! Now it is written that the gifts are irrevocable right? But The Lord led me to repent of babbling and so i did, they gone, i cannot even imitate them.. so then if it were a true form of tongues i doubt they would have left...also, when the disciples asked Jesus " teach us how to pray" then He being a triune God taught them what we call The Lords prayer and before He said the prayer He said don't babble like the pagans do. Now some will say that babble means to go on and on and on, well babbling in tongues is the same repetitions over and over again! These are my thoughts on it, but honestly i know when i repented of speaking in babbling tongues i was delivered of mysticism! I have learned more than i ever had before in His Word without the confusion of mysticism!
Amen! I had a similar experience...Praise the Lord!!!
Thank you for this! I learned Spanish at the age of 19 in an immersion program. I worked very hard, and am now fairly fluent. I have also studied Portuguese and German. I would love to miraculously be able to speak another language. I have always believed that "tongues" refers to languages that can be heard and understood by others.
It is in Acts 2 the disciples “Galileans” are speaking in human languages that are understood by people who were of another nation.
@TeamJesus. Thanks. That is my understanding as well.
@@valerier4308 Have you been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ like Acts 2:38 says?
@TeamJesus. Yes.
@@valerier4308 Amazing, I myself will get baptized soon
How can a person know if he/she has the true gift of tongues? Since he/she does not understand it?
I believe that it is not important that we understand what words we are speaking when praying in tongues. It is the Holy Spirit enabling us to use the gift. When I pray in tongues I don't decide what words to speak, otherwise it would not be real. One way I know that it is true tongues is that I use the name Abba (Father) without choosing to.
1 Corinthians 12:3 says that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed.
Well presented and God bless you!
Matt, your story is very similar to mine. I could "speak in tongues" when I was a brand new believer. Thought it was a prayer language but I realized that I was just making sounds and it felt wrong. I told the Lord I was just going to pray in English because He knew English and that if He wanted me to speak in tongues then He would reveal it to me in His word. However the more I studied the more I became convinced that tongues were not a private prayer language but a real actual language. I am now a cessationist in the sense of the sign gifts being for the apostolic foundation of the church.
I agree with most of that, although the Bible doesn’t make the distinctions apostolic gifts. 1 Corinthians 13 is clear that the gifts will pass away (including tongues and prophecy) when “the perfect comes.” This is referring to our glorified state with Christ “when we will see in FULL.”
But I have never seen those gifts in operation. Sadly there are many fake manifestations, but that doesn’t change what 1 Corinthians 13 tells us.
Sad story. Cessationism is not taught in the Word and is simply unbelief. Praying you let the Teacher the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth through the Word. God bless.
I am a prophetic intercessor ,I have been praying in my secret place and the Holy Spirit came upon me and I spoke in tongues. Don't limit God, God's ways are not are ways, God's thoughts are not are thoughts. Amen
The Bible is clear on this topic, as I demonstrated in the video. We can’t just make things up!
'Some Will Depart from the Faith':
"Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared." --1st Timothy 4. Now, read those passages in Corinthians again.
Amen
@lionoffireraw - This says the gifts are not all continuing because false teachers and doctrines say they do. Paul says what is in God continues, and true gifts at any time ONLY come from God. This is rare and finite. We reject humanism in this regard as a result. There is no weakness in knowing what is all obvious. Less than a fraction of one percent know what true love is. Those in elitism understand indoctrination because they do it through freemasonry/illuminati in the world. I even have had conversations in the past briefly where some in certain church groups are friends with these people in private confidence. I'm going to bed. Trust in the One who will never pass away. We are but filthy rags, and yet He gave it all for us and the Kingdom of God.
The true gifts continue.
1 Corinthians 13 is clear on this, and I explained that in the video.
@lionoffireraw - I have 1st Corinthians 13 on my wall. I also don't think TH-cam deleted all my comments either, since some are still here. But I digress. I stated the obvious on everything. I am not asleep at the wheel, so to speak. Corinthians is overall written in relevance to God's true nature, conviction, and wisdom. It is in no way about the gifts continuing, because not everyone will be healed, be rich in money and have a perfect life. Tell me one instance in any church which teaches that as absolute in today that all interpretation of the gifts experienced in the room in Acts carried on fully in like manner, other than false teachers and false doctrines? You can't, because this is not the relevance and absolute of the true Gospel and purpose of the Holy Spirit. I grew up, visited and met so many people in churches from all over. I was abused, mocked for my faith in various ways, a victim of two ancient cults tied to the same enemy, even for being open about wanting to share God with others in high school. And yet, I have deep love for people. You are my brother in Christ, but one big reason why I left the church is because of everything that's wrong going on in many of them, and the lack of common sense and true accountability.
Thank you for the insightful explanation, Matt. I used to pray in words, until one day attended this Charismatic church. They encouraged us to "get" the speaking in tounge. I got it one day, but i believe it was me praying in Holy Spirit. There was a time when Isomebody interpreted it for the prayer leader. However, i had no idea how they could understand it. Thank you again. Glad that you brought up the topic to bring discernment. God bless you abundantly 🙏🏻🎉
Speaking in tongues is real
I agree.
The real tongues of other human languages still exists today.
Babble tongues is false though.
Nope
yep
Matt, THANK YOU SOOO MUCH for explaining the gift of tongues… I’ve been struggling for a while trying to figure it all out and your explanation has greatly helped me understand. ❤ May God continually bless you.
You are so welcome! Matt 🙏
The Pentacostal version of "speaking in tongues" began around 1900 in the US. No Christians did this until then.
Exactly, William Seymour and the Azusa Street "Revival"
He also put a box on is head during the service 😂
There are many accounts of tongues before Azusa and modern Pentecostalism. Seymour was a very humble, thus the reason he hid behind a box not put it on his head.
Amen! Love this testimony video! Full of truth. No sugarcoating 🙏🏾💟✝️
So glad it blessed you!
Thank you. I have never liked tongues and find the fake babbling of Pentecostals to be harmful to the image of christianity. Cannot deny paul spoke about it and put restrictions on it, I’ll leave it at that. Agree with you 100%. In acts it is clear that it was used to spread the word as foreigners present understood hearing it in their native language.
Thanks for sharing the Bible, the inspired truth we should live by.
Not proof. You’re just giving your opinion. A person could just as easily argue the other side. To me there’s a personal time of communing with God and then there is gifts operating in the church. People get these mixed up. This guy just likes his opinion enough to put it in a video.
Nope. This was what was universally accepted until around 1900 (when people invented a new theology).
Universally accepted doesn’t mean true
This is about the speaker/s knowing a language other than that of the congregation:
1 Corinthians 14:7 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
For example: If a man (or men) came from Italy to China, and did not have the gift of tongues to speak Mandarin, he/they ought to have a person to interpret.
I appreciate your commitment to the Bible as your final authority and not a theological system or denomination's teaching.
Wouldn't the verse preluding all the verses you just spoke about give context to the reader that unknown angelic tongues are a possibility for today? "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels" 1st corinthians 13:1 after this chapter Paul simply gives structure on how to use the gifts (in love) for the edifying of the church. Does this dismantle your claim at 13:27 that tongues are only spoken in a known human language.
No, because “angelic tongues” doesn’t refer to the “gift of tongues.” The word glossia means language. So the verse is talking about angelic languages. Nothing to do with the gift of tongues!
@@lionoffirerawthat's wrong I looked it up in the greek. It's the same word "glossa" used in every occurrence you mentioned throughout your video and I mentioned.
Because the gift of tongues is the gift of languages "glossa"
Also Paul is clearly saying he could speak in both. But it would be useless without love.
As one born & raised by a minister in a cessationist spiritual community, (Church of Christ-non-instrumental), I have been at odds with my community in this matter. They (collectively speaking), misintperpret "THE PERFECT" in Corinthians as "the Canon" , concluding thus, that gifts have ceased....However, the Most High has proven to me by His Holy Spirit that this is indeed not the case!
He has proven to me by tongues both terrestrial and celestial; by healings and by unbroken prophecies, that the Spiritual gifts have not passed away, but are active and available today for those who believe, to whom Yah distributes as He sees fit!
As a public proponent of Spiritual gifts in the Church of Christ, it is indeed a lonely place to be in a cessationist spiritual society, but my place is a necessary one in these last days!
(Why would The Most High go through such powerful efforts to prove a lifelong cessationist wrong if cessationism is correct?!)
Just as I decry cessationism, I have also admonished those of Pentecostalism of public babblings sans interpretation!
This is as unscriptural as cessationist doctrine!
-Watchman Winyahudah
I also have a logical affront to your account that tongues are ALWAYS ONLY a human language...
As the Holy Spirit, being utilitarian, and neither wasteful nor superfluous; what sense would it make for the Holy Spirit to empower me to speak Cantonese in an English speaking church in South Carolina, only to have an interpreter translate my Chinese back into English? Seems like a conceptual waste of time as well as physical & spiritual energy to me!
You are 100% right stay blesses brother
Hello Matt, I'm new to your channel and didn't see anywhere in your channel description what kind of religious studies you've completed, and was wondering if you're a pastor or theologian? May I ask what your religious/biblical credentials are?
Great video brother and thanks for sharing the truth in love
I grew up in a charismatic church and moved away from this practice of speaking in "tongues " because I found it confusing, scary and a block to my relationship with Jesus. It seemed to me that it was meant for good in the scripture but in using it in life it became something else. So I moved away from my roots and I am glad that I did.
Thank you for this clear explanation based totally on the Word. There are so few genuine Bible teachers like you around these days. You are right up there with Martyn Iles, Paul Washer, and a few others I trust, with a solid faith based on the scriptures. I am very thankful for your ministry. May God bless you for the difference you are making in people’s lives.
God bless you. Thank you so much. I’m glad these videos are helpful. Matt 🙏
Thank you for the clear explanation. I used to belong in a Pentecostal but never spoke in tongues even though every one around me babbled
Glad it was helpful!
it does happen that people who speak in tongues occasionally speak in an earthly language as well. This is the case where an interpreter is required, such as what happened to Joyce Morris of Lord of Life Ministries. Paul was simply saying that speaking in tongues is not necessary in a church when it cannot be interpreted. But what stops you from praying to a point where you are no longer asking or declaring or confessing but just having fellowship with God as I explained earlier. I can also ask this question, do you think that the second person of the Godhead, The Christ, also God, spent full nights on mountains just asking the Father for things? No. He himself said in Matthew 6:7: "And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like the pagans; for they think they will be heard because of their many words." Which means just ask in simple language ONCE, every day. So what was he doing for full nights? He was hearing from God, ascending into the dimensions of the spirit, seeing the future, but all this began with kneeling down, praying normally and suddenly he was CAUGHT UP! into the spirit. If someone had passed by he could only have heard something like elishakoparadiahh esizashida emenee akopraydaa heliahhhhh!
The true gift of tongues exists (in another known human language), but the “tongues” that we see today in many churches is not biblical at all. I’ve demonstrated this definitively in the video below!
There is not a single instance in Scripture of “tongues” as a private prayer language. This form of tongues simply doesn’t exist, biblically, and is actually a 19th Century invention!
th-cam.com/video/ovIFlCMsgqM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LuxyVhyrKm2WTSlt
I have 2 different experience speaking tongue
The first church i go there is charismatic in teenager age, and i remember faking it by mimicking other coz everybody speaking tongue and they told me they can speak it after baptize
Then when years afterward i join a prayer group once and i suddenly felt 2 finger grabbing my chin and move my mouth so hard and i speaking tongue language, i also try speaking normal way while at it but the voice that come out of my mouth is different sound
So i believe in tongue as something real and possible, it just you can fake it if you joining church or community that not stand in word truthfully
If God truly let you can speak in it let it be, but like what Paul said, it's better to have someone interpreting it, because if not you are not edifying anyone but yourself, so better just pray silently
And after that i never encounter speaking tongue anymore that as powerful like that
Thank you Sir. I'm from 1958. I was taught on tongues as you explain it. I can't grasp what is being taught now. My descendants are now taught that anyone can just rattle it off. But I never hear any interpretation to go with.
Personally, I believe that I don't do it because God never put it on me. I don't need the "supernatural" allure to believe. I just do.
I was confused at my church for a while. I felt that all my life, I had to have missed this "knowledge". But in reality I hadn't missed anything. This is part of newer theology. This ain't my old time religion.
Wow, Matt thanks for sharing this with me! I've always wished I can speak in tongues and also hear God's audible voice, but ive known other people to speak in tongues and hearing God's audible voice!
I agree with your conclusion. Some churches will tell you that you don't have the Spirit unless you speak in tongues 🤦🏾♀️ with a disregard for all the other gifts. So misguided....
I am convinced that there is not one single verse supporting a prayer tongue. Here is my question I have posted several times in various places with absolutely no response. While I am convinced of the aforementioned lack of scripture supporting this fiasco what have I been doing for the past forty+ years? Do I need deliverance? I did an experiment a few years ago. I managed rental properties near a major university. I had two different tenants who did not know each other. They both were linguists.I spoke briefly in what I believed were tongues. Both of them said it was a semantic language but they could not identify it. Can someone help me with my confusion? Again, do I need deliverance?
No born-again Christian needs deliverance.
See my video link below ⬇️
th-cam.com/video/9_aLE9SVW68/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aBvYtvU9Md9HJoLM
Thankfully God has revealed these things to babes and kept it from the “wise”. This is a very intellectual argument but is lacking the conviction and leading of the Holy Spirit. I will keep speaking in tongues in private and when the Spirit leads. God bless.
Replace intellectual with biblical.
What people call Holy Spirit led often simply means emotionalism.
Charismatic tongues is a theology invented around 1900.
@@lionoffireraw dogma with no conviction, a few scriptures taken out of context, an intellectual interpretation of scripture and little love only amplifies how deceived many are, when they could be encouraging the body to press in and walk in the gifts, to be led by the Holy Spirit, they choose rather to justify their unbelief and walk in arrogance and try to convince others that their beliefs are superior. What the western body of Christ needs is serious persecution to come and purify the church until everyone rejoices when someone steps out in faith and walks in obedience to the Word instead of trying to find out what they are doing wrong so that they can criticize and amplify their errors instead of Jesus.
@@Metoyou465well said!
YOU are 100% correct. The only example of "speaking in tongues" is given in Acts on Pentecost day. Everyone in attendance understood everything said to them regardless of what language they spoke. The act of chanting Babel when praying is written no where in God's word. It's a tradition made up by men. Preacher starts shouting out babbling sounds when delivering a sermon do it to show off, and it does no one any good. Paul even said in Corinthians if you don't have a translator present don't prophecy. People who do this go to great lengths in twisting and adding to scriptures. Everything a Christian does should be done to glorify God and spread his message. Babeling tongues accomplish nothing and do no one any good.❤️🤟🏼✌🏼💪🏼🙏🏼
My Mum was when in her 20's, but became housebound later in life so couldn't go to church the vicar brought her communion. She prayed and read her Bible everyday and always had a list of people she prayed for. One day she was alone as usual doing her prayers, when she suddenly started speaking a language which just flowed from her. So no-one was there and she didn't ask for it, it just happened. How do you explain that?
I’d explain it by saying that it’s not real. Biblical tongues must be in the presence of someone, to minister to that person. And it must be translated or understood by that person. We can all have experiences. It doesn’t mean they are real. Especially if they contradict the Bible!
I would bring her to see a doctor. It sounds like she may a serious neurological problem.
Also I looked for the comment here but it no longer is visible. Did you delete it? I checked every one on this video three times. Definitely not here. But my positive comment on another of your videos- which was posted first, remains.
I didn’t remove anything. I’m too sure which comment. I’ll send some now and see if they are similar.
With 1 Corinthians 14, the entire context is about order in the church, in regards to the use of the gifts (particularly the gift of tongues).
The entire chapter is a REBUKE about using the gift of tongues without an interpreter so that the hearer can understand.
In verse 2, the reason that the person speaks “not to men but to God” is because there is no interpreter, and only God can understand what he is saying. The reason it is a “mystery” is because there is no interpreter, so the hearers don’t understand. He’s saying that’s a BAD thing!! Imagine I’m speaking tongues in French. Only God understands me, but my hearers don’t. That’s the entire point. And note there is NO mention of a non-human language (angelic language) here!
In verse 4, this REBUKE is reiterated. Chapter 12 is about how the very purpose of the gifts is for the building up of the body (church), not to draw attention to the individual.
Paul says “the one who speaks in a tongue builds himself up.”
This is a REBUKE (it’s drawing attention to the individual, but not accomplishing what it is intended to).
This is made clear in the next part, “BUT the one who prophesies builds up the church.” (I.e. achieves what the gifts are intended to achieve).
In verse 5 Paul reiterates this further again!!
He says that prophecy is better than tongues UNLESS someone interprets SO THAT the church may he built up (i.e. accomplish the very purpose for all gifts, including the gifts of tongues).
Tongues 1 Corinthians 14:28
NOWHERE does he say speak to God in tongues.
Firstly he says if no one is there to interpret the tongues, then be silent (i.e. don’t speak in the tongues).
Secondly, he says “speak to himself and to God”.
He DOESN’T say that this “speaking to God” in in tongues.
How does a person speak to God? In an intelligible language (or in his heart).
Amen and Shalom my brother ❤🙏
I agree. Thank you
Hi Matt! I realize this video is a little older but, I’m curious about Acts 19:1-6. I have been taught in my later years that we get the Holy Spirit as soon as we repent and believe on the Lord Jesus. That’s not what those verses say though. It was a different event according to those verses. Can you help me to understand? I don’t speak in tongues but have been around many different denominations in my 45 years. I know there are other passages that make it sound like it’s a different event too.
It fulfilled what Jesus said to Samaria Jerusalem to the uttermost parts (gentile) just verification that were accepted.
That's it. It's not difficult.
How about the eunuch ? Or the 3000 saved on Pentecost ? Did they speak in tounges ?
How about Timothy and Titus ? Why didn't he mention it in church set up ? Make sure they pray in tounges Timothy ?
"2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries." To have your interpretation of this verse, you have to change the word 'however' to 'moreover'. Also, regarding praying in tongues in your alone time: "1 Corinthian 14:18 "I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all; 19 yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue." - The Apostle Paul says he speaks with tongues more than anyone, but not in the church unless there is 'understanding' available, so he must have spoken in tongues in his alone time.
No, he spoke tongues in church with an interpreter, or in the mission field. No mention of him speak in tongues alone. No mention in the Bible of anyone. Speak in tongues alone.
As for “speaking not to men, but to God.” What that is saying is no man can understand the person without an interpreter. It makes no sense to people. Only God knows what this person is doing (fake tongues). It’s used in a negative way.
@@lionoffireraw You are saying that Paul is warning us against speaking in tongues when we are alone in our prayer closet, and if that were the case, why isn't he warning us of the harm that can come from that? No, if Paul wanted us to refrain from using tongues when we are alone he would have come right out and said that. You are bending and twisting God's Word to make it fit your agenda. Besides, the only 'harm' that can come from praying in tongues alone, it seems, is being edified. Fake tongues is disturbing, yes, but trying to stamp out real tongues because of that is even more disturbing.
@@lionoffireraw "No, he spoke tongues in church with an interpreter, or in the mission field." Chapter and verse please.
This video is well done. Thanks
Thank you for speaking on this. While I do believe the gift of tongues is still in use and have spoken in genuine tongues when God has commanded me, I just cannot be around those who claim to have this spiritual gift yet speak without an interpreter. My worst experience was when I was in a young adult group session at a church I thought God may want me to attend, and the group leader started speaking in what she supposed was tongues. Within 30 seconds I felt this demonic, hateful thing lunge at me from where she was sitting, and felt it try to hurt me. To this day I still don't entirely know what to make of that experience and of that person's faith, but I do know with absolute certainty that that spiritual entity was not of God and that it wanted to hurt me, but God protected me and made it very clear that He did not want me there.
I have a background in pentecostalism (not to be confused with "charismania"). I was more into the culture rather than the teaching, that being simplicity in lifestyle. Many do not have television in their homes which I still adhere to. They also generally require modesty in attire. They frown at jewelry which I am not strict with so long as one does not look like a tackle box. I personally do not have any jewelry, not even a tie clip. However that is a matter of personal culture rather than biblical interpretation. What they often refer to as a "holiness standard" without love is nothing more than a costume party. Years ago I heard a pentecostal minister say something to the effect "I would almost rather not see the gifts of the Spirit used than misused. This only confuses the redeemed and the lost". Then he proceeded to misuse tongues. A few minutes later a lady stood up who had a "word". She started out by saying "Yea". Everyone knows when God has a word He says "Yea" after all He always speaks in King James English. Of course I refused to accept her "word". She also had one hand raised as she moved about as though she was having a seizure. This is common among pentecostals. Respect your bought and paid for relationship with the Almighty. Don't go.
Thks very clear and succinct
I take this position on speaking in tongues because I used to be one who didn't believe it was necessary to speak in tongues. So I do know what I am talking about.
I agree with much of what you have said. It's hard to know what tongues are actually from the true Holy Spirit. When GOD brought me out of multiple doctrines: charismatic, Hebrew Roots, and new age, He gave me a dream about a serpent spirit with the name "kundalini". I didn’t know what that was. GOD showed me over the time after that what that spirit is. He revealed the Kundalini and Shekinah false spirits to me and freed me from those doctrines. Satan comes as an angel of light and his ministers as ministers of righteousness. This false spirit can make you feel so good and so peaceful. But eventually after a time, you will start to have different kinds of torment in your life and body.
In many false religions there are kinds of "tongues" with these two spirits as the spirit behind them.
I stopped speaking in tongues because I didn’t want it to be possibly bringing back a false spirit.
Amen! I also stopped while i was sick and i didn't understand why the need to speak in tongues went away during my sickness..I asked Holy Spirit to teach me the truth about tongues cause i began to have doubts about it...i studied the bible in context for the first time...repented and never felt the need to go back..I wasn't sure about the spirit behind it cause it felt good but i knew i wasn't giving honor to the Holy Spirit ...Had a lack of humility and was becoming more prideful...I thank God for teaching me the truth..The lord chastises those he loves...Glory to God!!!
Hello Matt (I finally heard your name on a video. I'm Loren.) I share many of your concerns over tongues, but I'm keen not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. If someone is genuinely speaking in tongues, but they're speaking in strife; and someone else is sincerely trying to please God, but it doesn't sound real -- which one do you think God would respect more?
As a young Christian, I became interested in speaking in tongues, but I prayed God would give me interpretation also, so I would know I wasn't kidding myself. He gave me eight lines, and I wrote it all down. I have a background in languages and also in cryptology, so even though I didn't know what it said, I could tell it was a real language. I even began to work out some of its grammatical rules and some basic sentence structure. After a few days, I felt that that God gave me the interpretation of the first line only. Then the second, etc, one line at a time. When I reached the last line my hearts nearly sank, because I suddenly realized that one of my rules and the interpreted words on that line, if they were true, would also have appeared back in the first line - and by then the dye was cast. Imagine my astonishment when I saw that everything still held up perfectly. I shared the message in my group the next time we met.
Now I will admit that I am still shy over tongues, because there is so much abuse. But here's a couple more points based on Human limitations. It takes a tremendous amount of faith to interpret, when you know that someone else in the room may understand this tongue as their natural language, and contradict you. Second. When someone does speak out and you feel you have the interpretation, they need to allow you the space for it. I well recall once when someone was speaking in tongues, and I knew that I knew I was getting every word of it, and I was ready -- but then he kept going and going, and never shut up. I just couldn't keep up with all that, to remember so long a message in one take. After a while, the quality dropped off into some sort of babbling, but still kept going -- but the damage was done. The opportunity was lost.
One of the chiefest dangers I see in tongues and interpretation, is the mistaken notion that tongues are the same thing as prophecy. So the interpretation comes out, "Yea, My Children thus says the Lord." But this cannot possibly be the case, since 'He who speaks in an unknown tongues speaks not unto men, but unto God." The danger appears because, unlike prophecy which is judged, interpretations that come forth as a word from God that is not being judged. I am under the impression that if we take God seriously in the safeguards He applies with spiritual gifts, then we will see just how seriously He works through them.
When I look comprehensively at what the Bible says about tongues, I reached the conclusion that, structurally speaking, they are similar to psalms. They 'declare the mighty works of God,' they 'bless in the spirit.' they 'give thanks well.,' This is why their interpretation edifies the church; and this is why the individual still feels edified in his spirit, even without the interpretation (a point on which we do disagree.) In fact, Paul says that we may simply share a psalm in our natural language, just as we would share a spiritual gift. No one seems to do that any more, but it's really beautiful when they do.
You made many fine points in this video. It's hard being controversial. Thanks for making it.
3:07 oh whaat? How are you seeing that?! Read it for what it is man … it’s straightforward. He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself - what does edify mean? It means to encourage and build
Up and strengthen!
Paul uses ironic speech all the time. See Philemon. See also where Paul calls the false prophets “super apostles.” Or when he calls himself a “fool.”
I thought it was no point to reply, but ya know what, ironic speech is exactly what you said - Paul calling himself a fool sarcastically or something, knowing the opposite is true. That is the example of ironic speech. The tongues being used as edification simply is NOT ironic speech. How is ironic speech used here at all? It’s not sarcastic, he doesn’t mean the opposite at all. Like I said, it’s straightforward and plain and should in this case be taken literally.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control." I was twice used to explain something to someone from the Bible and church, and it felt I was spoken through, using my brain, knowledge and voice. The people were uplifted. An older pastor in the church told me I have the gift of encouragement. Maybe I need that myself too oftentimes. 😊
I have a native Spanish speaking friend who was invited to attend a Pentecostal service by a lady he was dating. He's Catholic, I'm Baptist but he was asking for advice. I encouraged him to go & when people started "speaking in tongues" he should start shouting en español. He went only once & I was sorely disappointed that he never tried that.
This is perfect example of a dialogue (false tongues) between Fred Flintstone and Scooby Doo if they get into a traffic accident.
The only time I was once and only officially able to speak in tongues was only in my bedroom about a year and a half after I physically baptized myself into Mashiyachim. That was only my official confirmation of Creator accepting me as his own adopted child. I have never been able to do that in churches, especially Pentacle church after I was baptized in name Jesus Christ!!! Never, including at home while praying. But I sure did after baptizing myself in my own tub, around a year and a half later, and I was praying about something. I never felt "burning" in my chest, etc, either. I just started praying faster in the middle of praying, and that's when I started speaking in another language. I never expected that to happen either. Now I am permanently out of Christianity for good!!!! I don't miss it either!!! I am free now!!!
The conclution is I WILL PRAY IN THE SPIRIT and I will Pray with my understanding also
Can you go to one of the spirit filled church and check it for you self....
How was your day today my brother in Christ Jesus 💘🙏 I pray for you 😇🙏
Been praying in tongues since age 16. Ive kept 50 years worth of journals of prayers answered in wonderful ways. This has mostly been private prayers in tongues done alone but have also been part of corporate prayers with other believers all praying in the Spirit. Sometimes its impossible to know how to pray about difficult situations. It is a gift from the Lord, a genuine blessing!
That form of tongues is simply not-Biblical.
But God can certainly move in-spite one’s false beliefs, not because of it.
When we don’t know what to pray for, the Holy Spirit intercedes for us (Romans 8:26-27). This is not talking about “speaking in tongues.”
So don’t need “tongues” when we don’t know what to pray for.
But as I said in the video, there is no such thing, biblically, as “tongues” as a secret/private prayer language. It just does not exist in Scripture. In fact, it’s a 19th century invention!!
@@lionoffireraw 1 Corinthians 14:2.
King James Bible
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
@@lionoffireraw most definitely is Biblical. You are 100% wrong on this.
@@righteousrebelmedia5934 “speaking not to men, but to God” - means that only God can understand I.e. it serves no purpose for the people in the church, without an interpreter (that’s the whole context).
It’s saying this is a BAD thing, not a good thing! It’s not saying that it’s a prayer language.
Babble tongues is a 19th Century invention.
@@lionoffireraw wow you must have failed reading comprehension. That is not even close.
I happened to call it gibberish, referring to this 'speaking in tongues' when my then pastor called me unkind for saying so. There was only me and possibly my late sister there at the time. I try to be kind, but I believe that truth is more important. The Biblical speaking in tongues clearly referred to known languages of the time. People from different places in the Roman Empire understood what the disciples were saying about God. They couldn't have if it was just gibberish as Kenneth Copeland and his ilk try to persuade people to believe. Funny, I was just reading about this earlier today in Acts.
I also seen people use Jude 1:20 «But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,»
Saying that is praying in tongues .. I just come out of this teachings and I practiced speaking in tongues, and I can say that I am quit confused. I only try to find the truth about it.
What would you say the scripture saying here ?
Thank you for your teaching. God bless you
It can be confusing because people call praying in “tongues” praying in the Spirit.
But these concepts are NOT synonymous.
Praying in the Holy Spirit does NOT mean praying in tongues (in that verse, or in any verse). It simply means praying with the Holy Spirit inside of us (and in tune with the Spirit).
@@lionoffireraw please, I wonder how can we pray in tune with the Holy Spirit ? So all this babbling it’s just vain?
I heard apostles and prophets say you must pray in tongues for many many hours… yet when I did I couldn’t understand why I never get edified, like it is written in 1 Corinthians 14:4
@netsanetsortland2367 it’s all nonsense.
Jamás entendí qué dicen y jamás me dió una buena sensación en el corazón ni en el espíritu. No sé por qué lo hacen. Supongo como dicen en otro comentario, que es un tipo de personalidad. Pero no puedo entender cómo es que se aferran a repetir algo que no entienden y no saben si realmente están diciendo en todo caso algo bueno o algo malo. Dios me perdone si estoy equivocada. Pero yo no lo siento sano. Ni tampoco bíblico.
Abrazos y gracias por tocar el tema. Bendiciones 🙏🏽