Once I was in an art gallery and I saw a young woman who had the words "Not Today" written on the inside of her wrists, and I have often thought that if I ever got a real tattoo, that'd be it. Not today. Not yet. -John
@@vlogbrothers I'm thinking of getting a tattoo of a phrase I try to keep in mind: "This doesn't define me." In my own handwriting, on the inside of my arm, with real ink. I've wanted it for a couple of years now, so I feel like I wouldn't regret it. Thank you for making and sharing this video, and so many others. I hope you have a wonderful day today.
@@vlogbrothers Hey mate, I don't want to rain on you but I think that phrase in that location is a bit heavier than you present it to be, and flags up a bit more than a philosophical existential crisis. You be careful out there. This sort of spiral thinking can be dangerous and difficult to pull out of. Beyond not yet, how about not ever?
@@yankonapc Peter Rollins has some interesting writing and recordings on dialectical logic and it's connection to grace narratives! For some there are healthy ways to look into that spiral, and through that painful experience find some solace. Rather than avoidance for survival (an experience that is valid as heck), there's a planned exposure, a diving deep, a recognition of the pain that is at the crux of those individuals' survival and experience of life. Not speaking for John, or anyone else, but there's a bit of truth for me right now in my life that resonates with the idea behind these tattoo ideas! (He has a podcast with Eliott Morgan called the Fundamentalists and you should check it out if you like internet things and also discussions of existential dread, psychology, and societal/non-theistic theology!)
I'm disabled by mental illness, and one of the most useful things I learned in therapy is something you mentioned in this video: thought patterns that make you feel worse are useless, no matter how true they are. I've learned to redirect my thoughts away from the despair and nihilism, and toward the present moment. Doing this has provided me with more relief from my depression than anything else has.
The previous comment was one of three that I made in rapid succession before getting to know your channel better. I think I get it now. I'm sorry about what happened to you. Let me know if there is anything that I can do to help.
I can relate to this but wonder how do you manage to redirect those thoughts? If you wouldn't mind sharing that is. I also struggle with derealisation, however, so it is harder to focus on the present too... I am really glad that it has helped you though!
@@aleksandraa5146 Try to practise noting. It's a mindfulness technique that allows you to step out of the thought spiral and just stay. Also you can try nothing 3 sounds, 3 objects and 3 odors in the present moment, so you step out of your busy mind
"...but we don't live in the grand scheme of things" is inspiring. I think I'll adopt it as a mantra the next time I'm experiencing this thought spiral. Thanks John
I made that realization a few years ago, and it helped so much. The universe is big and indifferent towards us! Well, then why should *I* care about *It*. Its sun's might burn for a billion years. Cool. I made a friend laugh yesterday. That's what I care about.
@@1234kalmar +1 I love that. I think for me the popularized "live in the moment" idea can feel like an overwhelming mission whereas the reassurance that we are creatures of this moment is a truth that keeps me grounded
Something that really helped me out of my existential depression is that if nothing really matters why should i waste my time thinking about how pointless it all is? Who decided it was pointless? Im here for only so long, why shouldnt i enjoy it!
I feel constantly caught between wanting to do something big enough to alter the grand scheme of things and the crushing realization that I cannot possibly do anything big enough to alter the grand scheme of things... at least not yet. This quote is definetely something that might help me, and it's similar to one I need to remember more often; "When I was young and free and my imagination had no limits I dreamed of changing the world. As I grew older and wiser and realized the world would not change, I shortened my sights somewhat, and decided to change only my country; but it too seemed immovable. As I grew into my twilight years, I settled on changing only my family and those closest to me--but alas they would have none of it. Now I lay on my deathbed and I suddenly realize that if I had only changed myself first, then by example I could perhaps have changed my family, and from their inspiration and encouragement to me I would have been better able to help my country and from there I may even have been able to change the world." (Taken from the tomb of a Bishop in Westminster Abbey 1100 A.D
@@ellw7830 Wow that's a lovely quote. It reminds me of the Michael Jackson song Man in the Mirror, where he also comments on improving the world by improving himself.
Laurin Schmidt that depends, you decide. There’s countless cases to be made for happiness, but it doesn’t mean it is the right one. It’s just that humans like to self-justify their natural inclinations.
It’s like the starfish story. A beach is full of starfish and a boy is throwing them back in the ocean. A guy tells him it is useless that there is too many starfish. The boy throws another and says it matters to that one. It really doesn’t matter how many people you knew or helped. It just matters that you helped one person and their life was better because of you. Cause in the grand scheme of things no one is more important than anyone else. We just have to try and make a difference for who is around now.
@@amyblueskyirl16 Agreed. While one person is criticizing whether or not something is working, there are real people doing the actual work that matters. We can each help so much in even the smallest of ways
“we don’t live in the grand scheme of things, we live here, in the day to day” i really needed to hear that. (and this whole video in general) thanks john!
@@intheclouds4453 I hope you have or find someone you can talk to when it gets scary, because sharing helps so much. If nothing else, or if you prefer, there are plenty of Nerdfighters and beautiful Internet strangers ready to listen.
Yeah... I came here hoping John had motivational insights into why I should do that thing on my todo list instead of mindlessly clicking through videos while time burns away one more page in the short book of my life. But this video didn't really help. Maybe instead I can extract an answer from 8 hours of osmosis with my pillow.
This video really spoke to me. I love that you said 'this is the Hunger Games and I am a resident of the Capitol' because I have that thought at times. People in third world countries that are dying of famine would be disgusted by the way we use food, and the way we use so many things in ways that aren't right. When I read the Hunger Games I thought that surely if I lived in the Capitol I would do everything to help the other districts, yet in real life I'm mostly worrying about my own struggles.
This video is exactly how I think. I go from “God I love sitting at the beach and watching the waves.” To “Its sad that I have no idea how much longer I have to enjoy this world.”
It's strange to think of, but that future version of you that can no longer enjoy this world will actually not be you at all, because you will no longer exist-and therefore, being nonexistent, you won't be able to feel sad about being unable to enjoy the world. From your own perspective, you can enjoy the world right up until the end of time, because your perception of time (among other things) will end once your life ends. I dunno, I find some odd solace in that. It kind of helps me stop feeling sad and get back to enjoying.
The comment about everything we own and love eventually becoming landfill and ceasing to matter made me think of an experience I had a couple of years ago. At a medieval recreation event I got to hold a genuine medieval pot that had been discovered in an archaeological excavation. It wasn't a beautiful fabulous thing, it was roughly made, created to be used and discarded, yet it had survived hundreds of years. Preserved in the clay was a fingerprint. A person whose name and face have long been forgotten once made an unimportant thing, and left the most personal and unique of all marks on it, and hundreds of years later I held it in my hand and placed my finger where theirs had been. And maybe that's nothing much, when considered on a universal time-scale, but it FEELS pretty big, and it makes me wonder what 'meaningless' everyday items from our own lives will be someone's treasure one day.
In the grand scheme of things Even the greatest of kings Are just little hands Building castles out of sand. Edit: Wow thanks for the love, guys. I make poetry videos in case you care. And if you want to quote me somewhere, my name is Julie Merson. Thank you ^^
I feel very identified with your way of thinking. Thank you for always making the best content, making me think and laugh, always improving my mood as I gain more knowledge and perspectives. As an aspiring writer, you truly are an inspiration to me ❤ Thanks all the way from Costa Rica
“Isn’t it absurd how temporary we are despite all our efforts to feel permanent?” The kind of questions that keep me up at night. It gives me way too much anxiety to think of how fragile our lives really are.
"It's not so much which of these ways of looking at the world is true. It's which of these ways of looking at the world is productive". This is so important, and yet I always forgot this.
"...but we don't *live in* the grand scheme of things, we live *here*, in the day to day, at gate A7 on an early Wednesday afternoon." I have a lot of those same thoughts of, nothing really matters. But that brought me back to the here and now. Helped to make things a bit clearer. Really good line, thank you.
@@vlogbrothers I remember when crash course world history first came out, it was not long after I'd taken my AP World History test and I was absolutely struck by how similar the curriculum was. I'm so glad teachers and students are using it as a tool now! I was definitely a bit jealous I didn't have the videos to help me study back in the day
I literally paused the video at 0:12 and then I was like "Yep, thinking about existental crisis casually on a Wednesday afternoon. Relatable" and you then proceeded to specify Wednesday afternoon. My mind is so blown right now 🤯🤯
I came hear to read or post this exact comment. Effort is, in itself, rewarding. It is not my successes that give me meaning, but my trials and attempts to overcome.
I relate to you John and so appreciate your ability to eff the seemingly ineffable. Nihilistic thinking is easily acquired, but it is entirely useless and often harmful to the human experience. Existentialism to the rescue!
Superb, John. I loved every word. As always, thx for sharing. No matter how futile it may seem, your words make a difference now...and probably for some time to come. Cheers!
Relating so much to your thought patterns and I can't even tell you how much I needed this reminder right now. Blind optimism spouted out by well-meaning loved ones honestly just leaves me with an increased sense of frustration and panic and anxiety, pushing me deeper into depression and nihilism. What I need is that reminder that there is a much finer line than we think between that darkness and a strange sense of hope and freedom and joy - the honest kind that can see the world as it is, both eyes open, and embrace it. For me the way out of that dark mental space isn't up from it but out through it - to the other side. Thanks, John.
Nerdfighters are a lovely bunch, so here’s a poem I wrote once. Cheers. Infinity We’re here to live We’re here to die So who do you want By your side Is it him Is it her Or just the company Of a written word Why do we love Why are we here Why do I panic In the shadow Of such insignificant fears? It’s been six months How strange It’s been ten years What even is change At least none that I can feel Is any of this Even real Look in the mirror Look into your eyes Is it you Or a haphazard disguise Do these tears taste of salt Or is it the flavor Of all your faults Blotched cheekbones Bobby pins Sunrise whispers And burnt skin Mugs and spoons A little paint Is my life unremarkable Or just quaint Is there a difference Who even cares When feelings aren’t much more Than uninvited exhales? Edit: Wow thanks for the love, guys. I make poetry videos in case you care. And if you want to quote me somewhere, my name is Julie Merson. Thank you ^^
Undoubtably my now favorite quote “in the grand scheme of things, maybe nothing will matter. But we don’t live in the grand scheme of things” thank you.
The latter is incorrect, we are merely means to an end for the universe and mother natures game of evolution. We are only reciting what the universe has already achieved.
Did a recent stint in a behavioral health facility and I am catching up on my TH-cam. As the previous sentence implies, "the human brain is weird," and one of the dangers of nihilistic despair is that if nothing matters then neither do I as a person. It took removing myself from my home, my responsibilities, my comforts, in short, my little corner of the world to confront the distortions that led me to that belief and the subsequent willingness to end my own life. Living in the present, tackling the improvement of things within our sphere of influence, enjoying that which is enjoyable without putting the burden of constant enjoyment on either that thing or on ourselves is the only way for deep thinkers to conquer the constant threat of the thought spiral and its very real world consequences. Thank you for sharing, John.
I remembered feeling seen by your words when this video came out about a year ago. It's funny how we are living the tomorrow that rendered that yesterday meaningless so soon. I might find this video even more important today.
I've struggled with depression and mild suicidal ideation since I was 12 and goddamn. this spoke to me. I literally burst into tears after the video ended I can't even put into words what this meant to me, hearing someone I look up to so much putting into words thoughts I can barely have the mental capacity comprehend much less analyze. And to hear you think the same thoughts, and with the same logic turn it into something hopeful...I don't even know what to say. The tears speak for themselves.
For some reason these thoughts you shared particularly towards the end, immediately made me think of the poem “A Brave and Startling Truth” by Maya Angelou. One of my favourites.
Thank you for this John. I've been feeling a ton of existential dread lately. It's strangely comforting to watch someone I admire struggle with the same dread and come to the conclusion that everything is still worth it. Also, I find it comforting when I'm feeling nihilistic to remind myself that even if we're all meaningless, we're meaningless together? We all have this fear that we don't matter and experiencing that collectively we kind of give each other meaning.
Nothing has ever helped my existential anxiety more than the statement: “in the grand scheme of things maybe nothing will matter but we don’t live in the grand scheme of things, we live here” John, your casual gift for words amazes me. DFTBA
similar thoughts of stagnation and futility have been circling me like vultures lately. this is a timely reminder that i'm not alone in these thoughts and they don't need to overshadow my view of positivity and progress. it's so weird that, like the polarity you mentioned, one moment i'll be thinking about charity organizations or newly discovered species of frogs or the themes of star trek, feeling optimistic, and the next i'm overwhelmed by the abundance of low-quality products and corruption, entropy... this all has been on my mind a lot lately, and it was good to hear from you about it. i think i'll take "the necessity to struggle" as a bolster going forward.
you're always so good at expressing things i already feel but can't put into words. hearing someone else talk about it is also comforting and makes me feel not quite as alone
John I would highly recommend you read/reread Ecclesiastes. It is entirely about striking the balance between everything under the sun being meaningless in the grand scheme of things but also finding meaning in the day to day. I think it would really encourage you.
Ecclesiastes is exactly where my brain went! In a newer translation, the Common English Bible, "all is pointlessness under the sun" is a thematic refrain. Sometimes I'm in an "all is pointlessness" mood, but then I remember that God also made everything good in it's time (chapter 3) and intended us to enjoy our lives.
I have a much less poetic version of this thought every single day. “We don’t live in the grand scheme of things” is something that I think will really help ease my mind next time I have it. As always, thank you John.
Another way of your "which way is productive" would be what's the alternative. Like, you can either sit like a rut in despair and do nothing or you could try to fix the problem to as much as you can
Every time I'm in an airport, I think "No one here right now will ever be in the room with the same people ever again." over and over. I did lots of this on my way to VidCon:London and....DO YOU REALIZE WE CAN FLY?!?! I'll never get over it. Hurdling through the sky in a giant air conditioned metal thing in an atmospheric location where humans shouldn't have access to. I was eye level with the Big Dipper out an airplane window seeing the sunrise. I feel like a kid every time I travel. And that generosity and curiosity and gratitude fuels me and feels productive. I don't ever want to lose that vulnerability to deeply engage with Now. Thanks for the reminder, John.
It's actually nice to hear that we don't live on the grand scheme of things and that humans are weak and need other people. I always think about how meaningless life is and end up being more depressed and suicidal, so to hear other people saying that yes we are meaningless but just in the great scheme of things and we don't live there, it's a little relief. Thank you Jonh. Thank you all for vlogbrothers and nerdfighters.
Videos like this remind me I'm not the only one to think about how futile our brief existence is. Yet recently I've started to be more present in the now,which is making my futile existence more enjoyable
KaliKevin I’d love to discuss this. What is the point of making a futile existence more enjoyable? In a meaningless world, do you think joy/happiness should be each person’s top priority?
@@hardboard82 I think everyone has a different top priority. Mine is not happiness but I will find it when I can through activities that bring it out. I feel like if you don't try to have some fun along the way, your life might turn out boring and feel meaningless from your lack of effort to do anything.
Very insightful. I was at an airport terminal last week, and you know, being there with a bunch of strangers living unique lives really does open the mind. Everyone should experience that every once in a while.
My parents didn't bother making my sister and I keep our rooms spotless or our beds made. All they required was we have clear, clutter-free paths to the bed/closet/etc. I never make the bed... because then I would have to specifically un-make it to go to sleep. I pull out the covers and wrap them around me like a sleeping bag.
Yeah, I sort of reverse make the bed when I'm going to bed at night. In the morning I generally leave a blanket tangle behind me, and then at night I straighten it out so that it all lays nicely on top of me. If I have people coming over, I throw the blankets over the pile of clothes on the side of my bed and try to make everything as level as possible, but otherwise I agree there's no real reason to make the bed.
“One day we will die, and our ashes will fly from the Aeroplane over the sea, but for now we are young, let us lay in the sun and count every beautiful thing we can see.” This video reminded of that. Thank you.
I have had almost this exact same thought spiral on more than one occasion, and at least once in an airport. I've been struggling with it a lot lately. Thanks for reminding me about the other side of it. I was also just reminded of when I showed some friends in Glasgow a book that I found from the late 1800's that was a version of the history of the city that people were telling each other at that time, as well as the who's who and gossip of the day. My friend immediately took it and said, "ooh, let's read all the gossip about dead people nobody knows or cares about anymore!" and did a dramatic reading of an entry. Everyone scolded him a bit, but he immediately said, "it's true. And they don't know. But we're here now, so why not have some fun with it?" That moment had a weird sense of balance for me.
I really needed this today. I had just had a conversation with my professor about the guilt that comes with being alive and it's impact on the environment and why even bother if I don't find life itself to be particularly enjoyable. He said that you can only try to do more good than harm and hope you leave the planet better than you found it.
Kind of on topic anecdote: My friend recently asked me if I would ever get an “impulse tattoo”, and I told her “Oh yes.” because to me, my body feels temporary. One day my body will decay into the dirt or be turned to ash, and my tattoos will go with it. C’est la vie. I feel like this is how I look at a lot of things nowadays. I will die and so will everyone else, but I can make a person’s day by smiling at them or trying to make a pretty heart in their latte. (I’m a barista) I can write down all the quotes I love right now in my bullet journal, or listen to the new Marianas Trench album on repeat for days, or take a hundred photos and videos of my friends. And its not for nothing. These small things are things are make me happy right now. Small actions can make others happy right now. And sure, we’re just on a rock floating through space destined for doomsday, but right now? Right now life is beautiful. And if I want a pretty image tattooed on my body “forever”, then that’s beautiful too.
Loved this. I often see the moon in the daytime and think about how pretty it is... which leads to how vast space is... and also how insignificant we are and OMG. But then I take a breath and remind myself that even though we may eventually be insignificant, this moment right now isn't, in the now... And the mood is still pretty 🤓
I had an existential crisis a month ago and ended up thinking along similar lines. John, I want to thank you for your wise words, the comfort they bring, and for spreading hope. Hope is probably the scarcest resource, so your words are truly invaluable.
"We struggle on in the hopes of the lives to come and of the worlds to come" Nicene creed reference? (I look forward to the life of the world to come). Beautiful regardless! :)
John I’ve always liked when you start talking about those “random” thoughts... This one is perhaps the one I can most relate to because I often start debating whether it’s all meaningless or not. Your conclusion reminded me of a book I read called “We Are the Ants”: “The universe may forget us, but it can’t forget us until we’re gone, and we’re still here, our futures still unwritten. We can choose to sit on our asses and wait for the end, or we can live right now. We can march to the edge of the void and scream in defiance. Yell out for all to hear that we do matter. That we are still here, living our absurd, bullshitting lives, and nothing can take that away from us. Not rogue comets, not black holes, not the heat death of the universe. We may not get to choose how we die, but we can choose how we live”
Today was a long work day, but this somehow helped. In the long-run, statistically speaking, nothing I do will ever matter, but in the short-run everything I do matters, at least to the people I work with, the clients I serve, and the people I love. Everything I do matters until the day it doesn't.
The interesting thing to me is that people who just wear whatever still wear way different things in different times. Like the time we live changes how we do everything.
Here in 2022, looking at this, yesterday was an anniversary for me. I can share a fact: You(everyone) never know when it will happen, but you can't take it with you, not your things, or your history of life, so Live in the moment. I struggle with all the things you brood about and ponder, it is comforting that connection you share with us and pushes me past my frozen reflection of how and why, and how to go forth. You, vlog man, never fail to make me look for hope, sunshine and look ahead. Usually through tears I see the video, and I just need to Thank you for all you do!
The sentiment near the end of the video reminded me of a few favourite lines from RFK's speech 'On the Mindless Menace of Violence'; "Our lives on this planet are too short and the work to be done too great...But we can perhaps remember - even if only for a time - that those who live with us are our brothers, that they share with us the same short movement of life, that they seek - as we do - nothing but the chance to live out their lives in purpose and happiness, winning what satisfaction and fulfilment they can."
Yes, I love it very much! I don't *agree* with all of it, but it is so well-articulated and carefully argued. I think Philipp from Kurzgesagt and I look at the world with very similar values, but from slightly different perspectives. I am such a huge admirer of the work they do, and I am a big fan of the sturdy hope that optimistic nihilism can provide. -John
I needed this, someone who understands the ambivalence of being human, how one could at any moment throw someone out a window or tenderly embrace them.
Of course effort is futile, but that does not necessarily mean that struggle is not necessary. It was the collective struggle of mankind then to make our lives different today. And it is the collective struggle of mankind now that will make the future different, whether that future has 'lives' or not. A lifetime may not be a long time in the Grand Scheme Of Things but "..we don't live in the grand scheme of things. " Thanks John :)
John, this reminded me of something else you once said: I mean, sure, the world is going to end and Venice will sink under the sea, but not yet.
Once I was in an art gallery and I saw a young woman who had the words "Not Today" written on the inside of her wrists, and I have often thought that if I ever got a real tattoo, that'd be it. Not today. Not yet. -John
@@vlogbrothers I'm thinking of getting a tattoo of a phrase I try to keep in mind: "This doesn't define me." In my own handwriting, on the inside of my arm, with real ink. I've wanted it for a couple of years now, so I feel like I wouldn't regret it. Thank you for making and sharing this video, and so many others. I hope you have a wonderful day today.
@@vlogbrothers Hey mate, I don't want to rain on you but I think that phrase in that location is a bit heavier than you present it to be, and flags up a bit more than a philosophical existential crisis. You be careful out there. This sort of spiral thinking can be dangerous and difficult to pull out of. Beyond not yet, how about not ever?
@@yankonapc Peter Rollins has some interesting writing and recordings on dialectical logic and it's connection to grace narratives! For some there are healthy ways to look into that spiral, and through that painful experience find some solace. Rather than avoidance for survival (an experience that is valid as heck), there's a planned exposure, a diving deep, a recognition of the pain that is at the crux of those individuals' survival and experience of life.
Not speaking for John, or anyone else, but there's a bit of truth for me right now in my life that resonates with the idea behind these tattoo ideas!
(He has a podcast with Eliott Morgan called the Fundamentalists and you should check it out if you like internet things and also discussions of existential dread, psychology, and societal/non-theistic theology!)
@@vlogbrothers kinda like Project Semicolon
I'm disabled by mental illness, and one of the most useful things I learned in therapy is something you mentioned in this video: thought patterns that make you feel worse are useless, no matter how true they are. I've learned to redirect my thoughts away from the despair and nihilism, and toward the present moment. Doing this has provided me with more relief from my depression than anything else has.
The previous comment was one of three that I made in rapid succession before getting to know your channel better. I think I get it now. I'm sorry about what happened to you. Let me know if there is anything that I can do to help.
I can relate to this but wonder how do you manage to redirect those thoughts? If you wouldn't mind sharing that is. I also struggle with derealisation, however, so it is harder to focus on the present too... I am really glad that it has helped you though!
@@aleksandraa5146 Try to practise noting. It's a mindfulness technique that allows you to step out of the thought spiral and just stay. Also you can try nothing 3 sounds, 3 objects and 3 odors in the present moment, so you step out of your busy mind
"...but we don't live in the grand scheme of things" is inspiring. I think I'll adopt it as a mantra the next time I'm experiencing this thought spiral. Thanks John
I made that realization a few years ago, and it helped so much. The universe is big and indifferent towards us! Well, then why should *I* care about *It*. Its sun's might burn for a billion years. Cool. I made a friend laugh yesterday. That's what I care about.
@@1234kalmar +1 I love that. I think for me the popularized "live in the moment" idea can feel like an overwhelming mission whereas the reassurance that we are creatures of this moment is a truth that keeps me grounded
Something that really helped me out of my existential depression is that if nothing really matters why should i waste my time thinking about how pointless it all is? Who decided it was pointless? Im here for only so long, why shouldnt i enjoy it!
I feel constantly caught between wanting to do something big enough to alter the grand scheme of things and the crushing realization that I cannot possibly do anything big enough to alter the grand scheme of things... at least not yet. This quote is definetely something that might help me, and it's similar to one I need to remember more often;
"When I was young and free and my imagination had no limits I dreamed of changing the world. As I grew older and wiser and realized the world would not change, I shortened my sights somewhat, and decided to change only my country; but it too seemed immovable. As I grew into my twilight years, I settled on changing only my family and those closest to me--but alas they would have none of it. Now I lay on my deathbed and I suddenly realize that if I had only changed myself first, then by example I could perhaps have changed my family, and from their inspiration and encouragement to me I would have been better able to help my country and from there I may even have been able to change the world." (Taken from the tomb of a Bishop in Westminster Abbey 1100 A.D
@@ellw7830 Wow that's a lovely quote. It reminds me of the Michael Jackson song Man in the Mirror, where he also comments on improving the world by improving himself.
Friends and soft pretzels are the meaning of life.
I think there's a good case to be made for this. -John
Especially if you are from Philadelphia.
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Both are great aspects of life that bring us happiness. But if everything is meaningless, should happiness be our top priority?
Laurin Schmidt that depends, you decide. There’s countless cases to be made for happiness, but it doesn’t mean it is the right one. It’s just that humans like to self-justify their natural inclinations.
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It’s like the starfish story. A beach is full of starfish and a boy is throwing them back in the ocean. A guy tells him it is useless that there is too many starfish. The boy throws another and says it matters to that one. It really doesn’t matter how many people you knew or helped. It just matters that you helped one person and their life was better because of you. Cause in the grand scheme of things no one is more important than anyone else. We just have to try and make a difference for who is around now.
I love that story SO MUCH
Ha that's almost exactly what I said! lol Love is the best remedy for existential angst imo :D
@@amyblueskyirl16 Agreed. While one person is criticizing whether or not something is working, there are real people doing the actual work that matters. We can each help so much in even the smallest of ways
My mother once told me "You can't change the whole world, but you can change one person's whole world."
“we don’t live in the grand scheme of things, we live here, in the day to day” i really needed to hear that. (and this whole video in general) thanks john!
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Gee thanks, John. I was about due for an existential crisis👍🏾
I have existential thoughts all the time it's getting ridiculous and scary
@@intheclouds4453 I hope you have or find someone you can talk to when it gets scary, because sharing helps so much. If nothing else, or if you prefer, there are plenty of Nerdfighters and beautiful Internet strangers ready to listen.
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Yeah... I came here hoping John had motivational insights into why I should do that thing on my todo list instead of mindlessly clicking through videos while time burns away one more page in the short book of my life. But this video didn't really help. Maybe instead I can extract an answer from 8 hours of osmosis with my pillow.
@@ToyKeeper if nothing else, hopefully you'll feel rested after that
This video really spoke to me. I love that you said 'this is the Hunger Games and I am a resident of the Capitol' because I have that thought at times. People in third world countries that are dying of famine would be disgusted by the way we use food, and the way we use so many things in ways that aren't right. When I read the Hunger Games I thought that surely if I lived in the Capitol I would do everything to help the other districts, yet in real life I'm mostly worrying about my own struggles.
This video is exactly how I think. I go from “God I love sitting at the beach and watching the waves.” To “Its sad that I have no idea how much longer I have to enjoy this world.”
Moira H Hi fellow Moira! We have the same Name! ❤
Pumpkinomo M yesss, it’s very rare!
Then back to "i really love starring at those waves"
It's strange to think of, but that future version of you that can no longer enjoy this world will actually not be you at all, because you will no longer exist-and therefore, being nonexistent, you won't be able to feel sad about being unable to enjoy the world. From your own perspective, you can enjoy the world right up until the end of time, because your perception of time (among other things) will end once your life ends. I dunno, I find some odd solace in that. It kind of helps me stop feeling sad and get back to enjoying.
The comment about everything we own and love eventually becoming landfill and ceasing to matter made me think of an experience I had a couple of years ago. At a medieval recreation event I got to hold a genuine medieval pot that had been discovered in an archaeological excavation. It wasn't a beautiful fabulous thing, it was roughly made, created to be used and discarded, yet it had survived hundreds of years. Preserved in the clay was a fingerprint. A person whose name and face have long been forgotten once made an unimportant thing, and left the most personal and unique of all marks on it, and hundreds of years later I held it in my hand and placed my finger where theirs had been. And maybe that's nothing much, when considered on a universal time-scale, but it FEELS pretty big, and it makes me wonder what 'meaningless' everyday items from our own lives will be someone's treasure one day.
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This is one of the coolest TH-cam comments I've ever read
As someone who studied art history: YES, YOU GET IT
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This is a genuinely beautiful comment that stood out to me out a bleak and cloudy Sunday afternoon.
This is me when I fold laundry.
Dorvid for me it’s ironing
Yes!!
Exactly
This is why my laundry takes weeks to get folded.
Ampz14 From now on my excuse for not folding and ironing laundry will be that if I do it, I might have an existential crisis.
Amazing!
Thanks for your support, Jesus. -John
Jesus Christ my man!!!!
Ayo Jesus, what’s up?
He's up ... And to the right hand side.
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“Brains are so weird” God, I *felt* that
literally!!
Stop John, I can't got into an existential crisis right before midterms
It will be ok, you've got this.
your profile picture looks like it's verbalizing your comment
So how did exams go?
@@squeeerle
it's been 2 years, I think it wasn't good
@@benas_st bummer! Well, at least that class is long over.
In the grand scheme of things
Even the greatest of kings
Are just little hands
Building castles out of sand.
Edit: Wow thanks for the love, guys. I make poetry videos in case you care. And if you want to quote me somewhere, my name is Julie Merson. Thank you ^^
redmeetingwhite my brain lol
redmeetingwhite it IS finished lol. I think it says all it needs to say in a single verse tbh
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That is beautiful in ways that I can't put to words
Beautiful words, @Juice.
I feel very identified with your way of thinking. Thank you for always making the best content, making me think and laugh, always improving my mood as I gain more knowledge and perspectives. As an aspiring writer, you truly are an inspiration to me ❤ Thanks all the way from Costa Rica
Added to my “Favorite Vlogbrothers” playlist.
Awww thanks! :) -John
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Can you share your playlist... Please
“Isn’t it absurd how temporary we are despite all our efforts to feel permanent?”
The kind of questions that keep me up at night. It gives me way too much anxiety to think of how fragile our lives really are.
For like 9 years John has been laying down the philosophical knowledge on me, That or giraffe sex
My two great areas of interest. -John
vlogbrothers Don’t forget presidents and last words. Sometimes both simultaneously.
@@vlogbrothers I think you meant fields of expertise *insert collage of grassy fields here*
People who love giraffes who love giraffes
Reminds me of a quote.
“Life is short, but it is the longest thing we will ever do.”
That quote really changed my perspective on the value of time.
"It's not so much which of these ways of looking at the world is true. It's which of these ways of looking at the world is productive". This is so important, and yet I always forgot this.
I'm an academic and a Hufflepuff. True vs Helpful is a constant tension!
I went from being okay to full on existential crisis to being okay and also inspired in the span of 3:39 minutes.
now I want a soft pretzel...
Same. -John
The most Midwest of comments indeed
I'll... take that as a compliment ^^
Double Bourbon , please .
Great video .
with butter on it nomm
"...but we don't *live in* the grand scheme of things, we live *here*, in the day to day, at gate A7 on an early Wednesday afternoon."
I have a lot of those same thoughts of, nothing really matters. But that brought me back to the here and now. Helped to make things a bit clearer. Really good line, thank you.
Unrelated but my AP world history teacher assigns us your crash course world history videos! You're the only one that makes it interesting for me
That's great to hear. Please thank your teacher for me. (Also, we've got new crash course history vids coming soon.) -John
My humanities college course does the same. Just watched the video covering the Greeks.
@@vlogbrothers I remember when crash course world history first came out, it was not long after I'd taken my AP World History test and I was absolutely struck by how similar the curriculum was. I'm so glad teachers and students are using it as a tool now! I was definitely a bit jealous I didn't have the videos to help me study back in the day
Same! I'm always surprised at how fast john is talking about history stuff compared to the speed of stuff such as this video
“maybe nothing matters in the grand scheme of things, but we don’t live in the grand scheme of things, we live here.” damn, john.
Thanks for putting my thoughts into a more manageable idea this actually just helped me in my current situation 🤔👍🏼
Alice Samesies!! John is so good at doing this! :D
The number one guy for the job
me too!!
I literally paused the video at 0:12 and then I was like "Yep, thinking about existental crisis casually on a Wednesday afternoon. Relatable" and you then proceeded to specify Wednesday afternoon. My mind is so blown right now 🤯🤯
Or as Camus put it: "One must imagine Sisyphus happy."
Or at the least one must imagine Sisyphus productive. -John
And one must imagine Sisyphus immortal. That's my key takeaway from this
I came hear to read or post this exact comment.
Effort is, in itself, rewarding. It is not my successes that give me meaning, but my trials and attempts to overcome.
Ah Camus, fine philosopher and halfway decent goalkeeper. If he weren't dead he could play for AFC Wimbledon.
I relate to you John and so appreciate your ability to eff the seemingly ineffable. Nihilistic thinking is easily acquired, but it is entirely useless and often harmful to the human experience. Existentialism to the rescue!
Superb, John. I loved every word. As always, thx for sharing. No matter how futile it may seem, your words make a difference now...and probably for some time to come. Cheers!
Thanks, Brent. Really appreciate the kind words. -John
This man is a walking poem and it's absolutely beautiful
Thank you, John. I needed this today.
Same my dude, same
This.
Sending love!
Relating so much to your thought patterns and I can't even tell you how much I needed this reminder right now. Blind optimism spouted out by well-meaning loved ones honestly just leaves me with an increased sense of frustration and panic and anxiety, pushing me deeper into depression and nihilism. What I need is that reminder that there is a much finer line than we think between that darkness and a strange sense of hope and freedom and joy - the honest kind that can see the world as it is, both eyes open, and embrace it. For me the way out of that dark mental space isn't up from it but out through it - to the other side. Thanks, John.
i’m just after getting rejected from one of my first choices of uni and i must say, this video is strangely comforting. thanks, john ❤️
Sorry to hear that, best of luck!! :)
The moment of waiting at an airport gate is bizarrely distant only 2 years later.
I love that thought... we don't live in the grand scheme of things. It's a good check on perspective.
hits so different after 2020
Nerdfighters are a lovely bunch, so here’s a poem I wrote once. Cheers.
Infinity
We’re here to live
We’re here to die
So who do you want
By your side
Is it him
Is it her
Or just the company
Of a written word
Why do we love
Why are we here
Why do I panic
In the shadow
Of such insignificant fears?
It’s been six months
How strange
It’s been ten years
What even is change
At least none that I can feel
Is any of this
Even real
Look in the mirror
Look into your eyes
Is it you
Or a haphazard disguise
Do these tears taste of salt
Or is it the flavor
Of all your faults
Blotched cheekbones
Bobby pins
Sunrise whispers
And burnt skin
Mugs and spoons
A little paint
Is my life unremarkable
Or just quaint
Is there a difference
Who even cares
When feelings aren’t much more
Than uninvited exhales?
Edit: Wow thanks for the love, guys. I make poetry videos in case you care. And if you want to quote me somewhere, my name is Julie Merson. Thank you ^^
Juce wow remarkable poem! :)
I screenshotted this to read it over and over again.
Amazing work. Well done :)
Absolutely fantastic!!
I loved the last six lines especially. Keep up the good work ☺
John, thank you for existing.
So freaking good. Thanks, John. You always articulate the feelings. You should be a writer.
He is a writer.
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@@alishak6073 he is, an amazing one at that. He wrote the fault in our stars.
Undoubtably my now favorite quote “in the grand scheme of things, maybe nothing will matter. But we don’t live in the grand scheme of things” thank you.
Good morning John it’s Tuesday I really enjoyed the video and found it incredibly insightful and inspiring thanks. John, I’ll see you on next Tuesday
This was wonderful, like a weight was lifted and I felt more heard just by hearing someone else say this aloud. Thank you, John.
THE ART TO STOP AND SEE THE WORLD FOR A WHILE
A thing is not beautiful because it lasts. We are a means by which the universe can experience and know itself.
The latter is incorrect, we are merely means to an end for the universe and mother natures game of evolution. We are only reciting what the universe has already achieved.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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Did a recent stint in a behavioral health facility and I am catching up on my TH-cam. As the previous sentence implies, "the human brain is weird," and one of the dangers of nihilistic despair is that if nothing matters then neither do I as a person. It took removing myself from my home, my responsibilities, my comforts, in short, my little corner of the world to confront the distortions that led me to that belief and the subsequent willingness to end my own life. Living in the present, tackling the improvement of things within our sphere of influence, enjoying that which is enjoyable without putting the burden of constant enjoyment on either that thing or on ourselves is the only way for deep thinkers to conquer the constant threat of the thought spiral and its very real world consequences. Thank you for sharing, John.
Love your video, always gives me something to think about.
Your brain, John, is beautiful.
I remembered feeling seen by your words when this video came out about a year ago. It's funny how we are living the tomorrow that rendered that yesterday meaningless so soon.
I might find this video even more important today.
I've struggled with depression and mild suicidal ideation since I was 12 and goddamn. this spoke to me. I literally burst into tears after the video ended I can't even put into words what this meant to me, hearing someone I look up to so much putting into words thoughts I can barely have the mental capacity comprehend much less analyze. And to hear you think the same thoughts, and with the same logic turn it into something hopeful...I don't even know what to say. The tears speak for themselves.
I'd know you wrote TFIOS even if I didn't know it
This video has seared itself into my very core. 4 years later I come back and it still resonates with me
"I'm never more than a couple minutes of thinking away from abject nihilistic despair" OMG I've never related to anything more than this
It reminded me of the quote "If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do."
Angel, love that show so much
For some reason these thoughts you shared particularly towards the end, immediately made me think of the poem “A Brave and Startling Truth” by Maya Angelou. One of my favourites.
Great poem! -John
Thanks! Your comment led me to hear this poem for the first time. It's fantastic :)
Indeed.
Thank you, a really meaningful poem.
Thank you for this John. I've been feeling a ton of existential dread lately. It's strangely comforting to watch someone I admire struggle with the same dread and come to the conclusion that everything is still worth it. Also, I find it comforting when I'm feeling nihilistic to remind myself that even if we're all meaningless, we're meaningless together? We all have this fear that we don't matter and experiencing that collectively we kind of give each other meaning.
That's very pretty, I haven't thought of it like that before.
"The absurd arises from the confrontation between the human call and the unreasonable silence of the world"
-Albert Camus
Nothing has ever helped my existential anxiety more than the statement: “in the grand scheme of things maybe nothing will matter but we don’t live in the grand scheme of things, we live here” John, your casual gift for words amazes me. DFTBA
similar thoughts of stagnation and futility have been circling me like vultures lately. this is a timely reminder that i'm not alone in these thoughts and they don't need to overshadow my view of positivity and progress.
it's so weird that, like the polarity you mentioned, one moment i'll be thinking about charity organizations or newly discovered species of frogs or the themes of star trek, feeling optimistic, and the next i'm overwhelmed by the abundance of low-quality products and corruption, entropy...
this all has been on my mind a lot lately, and it was good to hear from you about it. i think i'll take "the necessity to struggle" as a bolster going forward.
you're always so good at expressing things i already feel but can't put into words. hearing someone else talk about it is also comforting and makes me feel not quite as alone
John I would highly recommend you read/reread Ecclesiastes. It is entirely about striking the balance between everything under the sun being meaningless in the grand scheme of things but also finding meaning in the day to day. I think it would really encourage you.
Ecclesiastes is exactly where my brain went! In a newer translation, the Common English Bible, "all is pointlessness under the sun" is a thematic refrain. Sometimes I'm in an "all is pointlessness" mood, but then I remember that God also made everything good in it's time (chapter 3) and intended us to enjoy our lives.
I have a much less poetic version of this thought every single day. “We don’t live in the grand scheme of things” is something that I think will really help ease my mind next time I have it. As always, thank you John.
Another way of your "which way is productive" would be what's the alternative. Like, you can either sit like a rut in despair and do nothing or you could try to fix the problem to as much as you can
Every time I'm in an airport, I think "No one here right now will ever be in the room with the same people ever again." over and over. I did lots of this on my way to VidCon:London and....DO YOU REALIZE WE CAN FLY?!?! I'll never get over it. Hurdling through the sky in a giant air conditioned metal thing in an atmospheric location where humans shouldn't have access to. I was eye level with the Big Dipper out an airplane window seeing the sunrise. I feel like a kid every time I travel. And that generosity and curiosity and gratitude fuels me and feels productive. I don't ever want to lose that vulnerability to deeply engage with Now. Thanks for the reminder, John.
It's actually nice to hear that we don't live on the grand scheme of things and that humans are weak and need other people. I always think about how meaningless life is and end up being more depressed and suicidal, so to hear other people saying that yes we are meaningless but just in the great scheme of things and we don't live there, it's a little relief.
Thank you Jonh. Thank you all for vlogbrothers and nerdfighters.
“We don’t live in the grand scheme of things” is both an absolutely profound, intimidating and beautiful truth to me. Thank you.
Me: This video is more a piece of poetry that "just a youtube video"...
Also Me: This is why John Green is a writer!
*mindblown*
I love being thrust into crippling apathy and undying hope simultaneously. It really helps quiet the inner musings about my place in the universe.
Ah yes, this is the John Green we've come to love over the years.
an exhaustive list of people who can make me laugh and cry simultaneously: 1) john green, 2) markus zusak, and 3) my mother
Videos like this remind me I'm not the only one to think about how futile our brief existence is. Yet recently I've started to be more present in the now,which is making my futile existence more enjoyable
KaliKevin I’d love to discuss this. What is the point of making a futile existence more enjoyable? In a meaningless world, do you think joy/happiness should be each person’s top priority?
@@hardboard82 I think everyone has a different top priority. Mine is not happiness but I will find it when I can through activities that bring it out. I feel like if you don't try to have some fun along the way, your life might turn out boring and feel meaningless from your lack of effort to do anything.
Very insightful. I was at an airport terminal last week, and you know, being there with a bunch of strangers living unique lives really does open the mind. Everyone should experience that every once in a while.
I feel the pointless and mundane effort to make my bed in the morning.
Making the bed is such an interesting activity to me. I might write an episode of the anthropocene reviewed about it. -John
My parents didn't bother making my sister and I keep our rooms spotless or our beds made. All they required was we have clear, clutter-free paths to the bed/closet/etc.
I never make the bed... because then I would have to specifically un-make it to go to sleep. I pull out the covers and wrap them around me like a sleeping bag.
Yeah, I sort of reverse make the bed when I'm going to bed at night. In the morning I generally leave a blanket tangle behind me, and then at night I straighten it out so that it all lays nicely on top of me. If I have people coming over, I throw the blankets over the pile of clothes on the side of my bed and try to make everything as level as possible, but otherwise I agree there's no real reason to make the bed.
man john green puts words to my thoughts
I see it's time for our semiannual existential crisis
carb withdrawal is pitiful
“One day we will die, and our ashes will fly from the Aeroplane over the sea, but for now we are young, let us lay in the sun and count every beautiful thing we can see.” This video reminded of that. Thank you.
Neutral Milk Hotel?
This is a good video :) let's put in some work, people!
I have had almost this exact same thought spiral on more than one occasion, and at least once in an airport. I've been struggling with it a lot lately. Thanks for reminding me about the other side of it.
I was also just reminded of when I showed some friends in Glasgow a book that I found from the late 1800's that was a version of the history of the city that people were telling each other at that time, as well as the who's who and gossip of the day. My friend immediately took it and said, "ooh, let's read all the gossip about dead people nobody knows or cares about anymore!" and did a dramatic reading of an entry. Everyone scolded him a bit, but he immediately said, "it's true. And they don't know. But we're here now, so why not have some fun with it?" That moment had a weird sense of balance for me.
We DO find it odd that in 2019 we went to crowded airports
I really needed this today. I had just had a conversation with my professor about the guilt that comes with being alive and it's impact on the environment and why even bother if I don't find life itself to be particularly enjoyable. He said that you can only try to do more good than harm and hope you leave the planet better than you found it.
John, once again you have turned a fleeting thought into a 4 minute "GAAAAAAAHHHH!"
Kind of on topic anecdote: My friend recently asked me if I would ever get an “impulse tattoo”, and I told her “Oh yes.” because to me, my body feels temporary. One day my body will decay into the dirt or be turned to ash, and my tattoos will go with it. C’est la vie.
I feel like this is how I look at a lot of things nowadays. I will die and so will everyone else, but I can make a person’s day by smiling at them or trying to make a pretty heart in their latte. (I’m a barista)
I can write down all the quotes I love right now in my bullet journal, or listen to the new Marianas Trench album on repeat for days, or take a hundred photos and videos of my friends. And its not for nothing. These small things are things are make me happy right now. Small actions can make others happy right now. And sure, we’re just on a rock floating through space destined for doomsday, but right now? Right now life is beautiful. And if I want a pretty image tattooed on my body “forever”, then that’s beautiful too.
Loved this. I often see the moon in the daytime and think about how pretty it is... which leads to how vast space is... and also how insignificant we are and OMG. But then I take a breath and remind myself that even though we may eventually be insignificant, this moment right now isn't, in the now... And the mood is still pretty 🤓
I had an existential crisis a month ago and ended up thinking along similar lines. John, I want to thank you for your wise words, the comfort they bring, and for spreading hope. Hope is probably the scarcest resource, so your words are truly invaluable.
"We struggle on in the hopes of the lives to come and of the worlds to come" Nicene creed reference? (I look forward to the life of the world to come). Beautiful regardless! :)
Yes, Nicene Creed reference. -John
Yay! :) I feel like a good Episcopalian for catching that, lol. And thanks for the reply, it made my day! :D
John I’ve always liked when you start talking about those “random” thoughts... This one is perhaps the one I can most relate to because I often start debating whether it’s all meaningless or not. Your conclusion reminded me of a book I read called “We Are the Ants”: “The universe may forget us, but it can’t forget us until we’re gone, and we’re still here, our futures still unwritten. We can choose to sit on our asses and wait for the end, or we can live right now. We can march to the edge of the void and scream in defiance. Yell out for all to hear that we do matter. That we are still here, living our absurd, bullshitting lives, and nothing can take that away from us. Not rogue comets, not black holes, not the heat death of the universe. We may not get to choose how we die, but we can choose how we live”
I may have downloaded the audio from this
TurtleKing777 same here !
Today was a long work day, but this somehow helped. In the long-run, statistically speaking, nothing I do will ever matter, but in the short-run everything I do matters, at least to the people I work with, the clients I serve, and the people I love. Everything I do matters until the day it doesn't.
But yeah, our clothing will look SUPER weird in 50 years, I mean, LOOK AT IT!
They already look pretty weird to me. Does that mean I'm getting old?
I don't really care about my clothes
The interesting thing to me is that people who just wear whatever still wear way different things in different times. Like the time we live changes how we do everything.
Here in 2022, looking at this, yesterday was an anniversary for me. I can share a fact: You(everyone) never know when it will happen, but you can't take it with you, not your things, or your history of life, so Live in the moment. I struggle with all the things you brood about and ponder, it is comforting that connection you share with us and pushes me past my frozen reflection of how and why, and how to go forth. You, vlog man, never fail to make me look for hope, sunshine and look ahead. Usually through tears I see the video, and I just need to Thank you for all you do!
"Brains are so weird" is the truest thing I heard today.
The sentiment near the end of the video reminded me of a few favourite lines from RFK's speech 'On the Mindless Menace of Violence'; "Our lives on this planet are too short and the work to be done too great...But we can perhaps remember - even if only for a time - that those who live with us are our brothers, that they share with us the same short movement of life, that they seek - as we do - nothing but the chance to live out their lives in purpose and happiness, winning what satisfaction and fulfilment they can."
Have you seen Kurzgesagt's video on Optimistic Nihilism?
Yes, I love it very much! I don't *agree* with all of it, but it is so well-articulated and carefully argued. I think Philipp from Kurzgesagt and I look at the world with very similar values, but from slightly different perspectives. I am such a huge admirer of the work they do, and I am a big fan of the sturdy hope that optimistic nihilism can provide. -John
@@vlogbrothers Where do you disagree?
That question sounds like a topic for another video I'd like to watch.
@@vlogbrothers Hey look at that, you guys did a video together!
I needed this, someone who understands the ambivalence of being human, how one could at any moment throw someone out a window or tenderly embrace them.
Of course effort is futile, but that does not necessarily mean that struggle is not necessary. It was the collective struggle of mankind then to make our lives different today. And it is the collective struggle of mankind now that will make the future different, whether that future has 'lives' or not.
A lifetime may not be a long time in the Grand Scheme Of Things but "..we don't live in the grand scheme of things. "
Thanks John :)
This is one of your best!! Thank you john! “We don’t live in the the grand scheme of things, we live here the day to day”