***** i though that the earthen ring farseer said " bye bye zungurgo men" at the time i thought zungurgo men were bad people i wow should i also say i have slight hearing problems?
Well, not my favorite dragon, if its about "favorite dragon legendary from Hearthstone" its Malygos (if I spelled it correctly anyways), if its from the lore then it is Deathwing. BUT if its about any dragon card I would go with the Azure Drake, I put it in almost every deck (almost).
well alex is certainly my favorite, it saved my ass and gave me the win so many times(since i play freeze mage). i really like deathwing too, too bad i dont have it :(
TBH I really enjoy this Frost Giants constructed. For the most part, I hate watching constructed save a few decks. However, the win conditions of cycle decks always intrigue me more, as it reminds me of the consistency you would aim for in MTG. Everyone hates freeze mage, miracle rogue, etc, because you often can't stop your opponent from winning.... but that's how card games should be played: You vs your opponent, not your minions vs his. These types of decks are where the game will inevitably go when the card collection is expanded and more win conditions are established outside of basic minion play.
Rave7wist Hehe , I agree with you , but doesn't hurt to post other stuff too :).He posted so much mage that I think I learned how to play :) Legend rank here I come , but first need some cards :).
Trump decided to join the ranks of 'pro' Hearthstone players and compete at Blizzcon and other tourneys. So it's constructed grind from here on out. He now skips daily arenas too. Not a decision I personally approve.
Nathan Perran It's still a huge deviation from the Trump his original fanbase subbed to. He's a mediocre constructed player, but a stellar arena conqueror. Should've stuck to what he's good at. Not my call though.
Even if I'm not good enough to beat Miracle Rogue without my opponent basically throwing it, it's comforting to know that they, like everything else, can still be... Trumped.
That last warlock messed up. By casting Soulfire first, he has a 16.66% chance of winning (33% chance to discard amani X 50% chance of landing the knife). However, if he had played the knife juggler first, and then the soulfire, he'd have a 25% chance of winning (50% chance to discard amani X 50 chance of landing the knife.).
I suck at making my own decks so I have used yours. Having the deck list on the side is super helpful in addition to being a nice display of editing for the viewers. Holy hell, it's good but it comes down to the wire a lot of the time. You sure know how to use some real bleeding-edge decks. Even delivered a win against someone that had gotten to the legendary ranks themselves at least once.
huh, I could've sworn Alexstrazsa said "I bring life and death". Cuz you know...she reks enemy hp points given the chance. But I guess its like some people thinking Leeroy says "Time's up, lets do this"
Can anyone explain how legendary ranking works? For example how many ranks you can expect to climb or drop after a match. Trump possibly implied facing a higher ranked player means you can climb more, but that may just be me reading too much into it. I'd appreciate an explanation or a link to a good source of info.
Cole Skeptic Lacks You clearly missed the point of my comment, in the description it says Alex, everyone's favorite dragon. I added thrall meaning he will probably become an aspect, considering the current status of stuff...
Kooru Who cares about "The current status of stuff"? The paladin hero is fucking Uther, and hes dead. Hearthstone doesnt follow overall continuity, it picks and chooses based on all the lore.
Oh my God! He missed lethal! It would have been hilarious if he had not topdecked Thalnos and had lost because of it!:D Though he did, so the missed lethal turned out not to matter
I feel like Antonidas is weak in this deck. Trump rarely plays him, and while his ability is amazing when used, I feel like it's too situational. Maybe it's because of the rank he's at, but things are always too neck and neck to "set up" Antonidas so to speak. I'm not exactly sure what I'd replace him with, but he just doesn't seem that strong here.
That's exactly my opinion, too much win conditions in this deck: alex, giants, antonidas. Pyroblast is much easier to execute. But interesting thing about antonidas is he can draw attention and make you live longer. Similar to thalnos: he can be used for spell dmg or cycle. Maybe this is the reason. BTW, adding mage wyrms in this deck, compared to Otter's version, makes early game very good. Very good addition.
rruzgarr97 to get fireballs from antonidas usually you cast mirror images/coin/frostbolt+ice lance with him. It's low cost spells. But usually this spells are already used vs aggro decks, so antonidas truns out to be just 5/7 minion. But you are right, against warriors/healadins antonidas will definitely help.
Antonidas is good against decks that have a lot of damage mitigation like heal and armor. You almost can not win against control Warrior with this deck but Antonidas makes it much easier to win.
People complain about Hearthstone being pay2win. You don't need to pay for boosters like in other card games, and when you do they are like $$2 not $7~ (AUS money) nor do you need to pay for travel to go and play against other people. Also, no need for storage of your collection or card sleeves, life counting dice or whatever you fancy there. Yes, money helps but if you want to play a card game Hearthstone is probably the cheapest one you can play, so the complaints that it is pay2win are pretty silly when you compare to like every card game ever. Also, cards which are rare? 1600 dust or hundreds of dollars? 1600 dust is a lot cheaper if you ask me if you are gonna pay money. Building my collection on Hearthstone is hard, and I gave up playing Magic due to money issues, but the thing is... without money you CAN build a collection on Hearthstone unlike with any other card game.
+Chaedi That argument tho: "It's not pay2win because the money you need to get an advantage over others is way less than in other card games". "pretty silly". Lemme try this out ehh: "No no this shooter isnt pay2win dude. I mean i paid 20$ for that gun that massacres the whole enemy team, but remember this other shooter? I bet having a gun there as strong as this one here would cost over 60$!!"
eh sorry its kinda hard to expect you knew when you're defending the pay2win arguments hur i didnt mention i thought it was pay2speedup hurrrr its almost as if you implied you where on the pay2win side don't be an ass when you aren't giving the info and assuming i know it when you yourself with your prior statement implied that you think its pay2win.
Trump,Why don't you clear the Yeti with de fireball instead of the frostbolt? it's more efficient when you have the ice lance in your hand,the fireball does 6 damage for 4 mana,and the frostbolt+ice lance do 7 damage for 3 mana
Pay to win or not . - As Trump says you can get most cards from just doing quests and arena. - However the adventure cards seem like a necessity to me. So its - Pay a little to do your hoppy (which is fair) - Pay to save time if you feel like it.
Warlock at the end should have played Juggler first, then Soulfire to the face, 50/50 on discarding the Berserker, then played Doomguard, 50/50 on knife to the face and Doomguard charge to the face for the win. Needs a fair bit of help from RNGesus but could still happen.
As a new player (who has watched for a while now) I don't think it's pay to win. Using a variant of Trump's F2P shaman deck (A variant because I don't have all the cards) I still have the potential to beat people with decent "top tier" decks. On the other hand, I think it's a pain having to grind it out to get the fun decks. Such as token druid, freeze mage, etc.
Sorry long question but could be very interesting, you may have already thought about it. At around 30 mins you are hoping to draw Thalnos as your 20th card. Intuition tells us you only have 1/11 chance as there are 11 cards left. The thing is at the start of the game, the probability that Thalnos was in the first 20 cards was 2/3. Not sure but, Based on a concept in probability theory called the 'Monty Hall Problem' I think that the probability that Thalnos is card 20 is still 2/3 and there is only 1/3 chance of being in the remaining 10. Have you heard of this?
An interesting though charzy, but I think this doesn't apply here. What you're saying is true only for the very beginning of the game, when the deck has 30 cards in it. However, at every draw the remainder of the deck changes and you must re-apply this analysis each time this happens. Of course, the cards in the remainder will be drawn in the order determined by the initial shuffling, but this doesn't matter, from the probabilistic view the deck is a black box for you. A simple counter-argument: suppose you label each card from 1 to 30, and Thalnos just corresponds to one of these numbers. Thalnos is no special from other cards in the remaining 11, so using your theory you could say that any of the remaining cards has a 2/3 probability of being drawn (since at the beginning it could have been in the first 20 with equal probability). Obviously then you cannot have a 2/3 probability of drawing each of the 11 cards :)
"I could right now have the entire collection for free." Yes Trump, that's because at the beginning you spent money on good cards that got you lots and lots of wins. If you played for free it would be much harder to win so often and you'd have to play for so long just to get enough gold for more and more packs.
Joroko Korojo This is what i did for a good start :P : (I love alex so much) 1. Made a new account. 2. Won the 6 games , then opened the first deck. 3. Got A golden legendary , it was a popular one , i can't remember though 4. Disenchanted it right away , and crafted Alex Well , that first deck you open has the highest chance of getting a legendary, and i have tested it a lot , the time before that i got Deathwing from first deck , try it. (Malygos another time , and Ysera from first one) I mean i did have an above average collection on the other account , but it had no legendary cards , and i wanted to play Freeze Mage , which Alex is the main card in it. And i wasn't really enjoying other decks than playing a deck that wins late game :P ( I am not a fan of playing agressive , why not play passive and one shot your opponent in late game right ? :D)
After you win enough stars at rank 1 you get moved in to legendary ranks and you get a gold hexagon as your rank symbol instead of the usual ones. The number is what rank you are in the region you're playing in compared to everyone else that is legendary ranked.
In legendary rank, the hierarchy is based on your win rate against other players (plus some maths). The lower the number, the better the player/deck combination is. Top 16 legendary is notoriously hard to get into.
As far as the paying thing: Yes, in order to be rank 1 legend, you need a lot of expensive cards. But fact of the matter is, 99% of the people wouldn't get there even with those cards. 99% of the people will still be at much lower, and over there you can also get by with cheaper decks. And the 1% that are good enough to get to a "professional" rank, got there by playing SO much, that they earned enough gold to buy all the good cards with ingame currency anyway.
Regardless, let's just say this game is pay-to-win with the option to spend a ton of time to get the cards for free. Now someone find me another collectible card game that has that option and is cheaper than Hearthstone. I'm not too familiar with anything other than Magic the Gathering, so there very well could be one out there somewhere. But if we're just looking at Magic and its clones (Pokemon, Yugio, ect), then Hearthstone is far FAR more forgiving that that game is cost wise. Anyone who complains about Hearthstone being pay-to-win is obviously new to this type of game and has no appreciation for what Blizzard does with its business model. Hearthstone is the only CCG game I've been able to play for free and still have all the rarer cards the people who spent money have. And I'm not even that great of a player.
Eric Roth and versing the warrior? i know illidian talks to the druid in a "hello brother" way, but never been lucky(unlucky?) to of seen bloodhoof facing garrosh
+Koffciak Depends whether or not you value it for spell damage or card draw. Thalnos is a weird card to replace because of how much you want both, but it's a preference.
After. First he tanks is rank with Warrior, then begins the Freezer Burn mage with Otter. Then he makes adjustments and follows up with the similar Giants mage. (You can tell if you look at his Twitch stream archives.)
The main problem with hearthstone concerning pay to win that I have is that there aren't a lot of great 8 mana+ cards that aren't epic/legendary but that's just my opinion.
30:08 - Am I wrong, or should the warlock have played the Knife Juggler and then the Doomguard followed by Soulfire and sacrifice the Amani Berserker? By putting out Knife Juggler and then the Doomguard the Knife Juggler could have dealt that one missing damage to Trump and the warlock would have won?
Knife Juggler, Soul Fire, then Doomguard. 50/50 shot the Soul Fire doesn't discard Doomguard, and 50/50 shot the Juggler hits Trump. 1 in 4 chance to win.
Your way would be impossible because doomguard would discard both amani and soulfire... but you're right in saying that the warlock made a mistake. The way he did it, he had a 66% chance of discarding either the knife juggler or doomguard, which is bad. If he had played the knife juggler, he would have had a 50% chance of discarding the doomguard. Slightly better odds, but that could have made the difference. Of course, there would always be the 50/50 on the knife anyways, so his chances at winning were low.
Because I've played it and compared to Druid, which is what I nearly always play, if requires no thought. Although some midgame hunters require thought. It's called huntard for a reason buddy
Just try contemplate how greed infested some people are, where they can not register the concept that they downloaded the game for FREE. That means that a team of people spent months, and months of their time to create a game, and then spend weeks smoothing out bugs, so you could have a good gaming experience. Then after all that, you get some people who still complain that it's not fair that some people are buying cards, because it will take to long to earn the cards with gold, and the only reason they are loosing is because the opponent has better cards. It's like some people, feel the developers owe them something, when in reality it's the biggest slap in the face. If the P2W problem is to distressing, the simple solution is just to uninstall the game and find another free game to play.
about the pay to win stuff: ofc you could have the entire selection now without spending money... you make a lot of gold from arena if one is not good enough to constantly get a profit from arena runs then it is gonna take a friggin loooooong time to get enough legendaries to build some high tier decks in my opinion it couldnt hurt to give players options to get more gold daily... the quests get a pack every 2 days on average and the 10 gold for every 3 wins... well even if every match is won that is still like 1 pack in 2.5 hours if every match is only 5 minutes long thats pretty ridiculous and makes it kinda obvious how p2w this game actually is (at least if you are not a pro and only play like 2 hours daily on average) that being said i still like hearthstone and im gonna keep playing it
Well I payed only at the beginning of Closed Beta (1 arena entry) just to get Golden Gelbin. And thats all. Playing VERY casually (somewhere 7-10 games in three days) don't have any problems in ladder. In ladder I play priest only and all dailies doing in arena. At this point have 2k gold (for nax) and almost all top tier legendaries. One suggestion. Never buy packs. Buy only arena. even with 0-3 stats it is good collection wise (you gain more dust than just by buying pack and later on dust is the only thing you need cause packs won't give needed legendary immidiately while dust can)
The issue is you're using your gold to buy packs. Use your gold for arenas. The more you play the more gold you get. Plus the free packs of course. Even if you're not a pro, going 3/3 will get you a pack and usually enough gold to break even. Not good enough to go 3/3? ...well then your issue isn't with the cards :P
It is a collectable card game, ofcourse it is pay to win, you need cards to play the game! If they gave out the cards for free then how could Blizzard make money of this game?!? The whole discussion is stupid and results from people not understanding the basic concepts of "collectable card game" and "money-making companies". Besides all this, if you play your Quests every day (or 3 quests every 3 days) and you spend a normal amount of money on a game (you pay for normal games, so buy a 40 pack at the start and you basicly bought the game) or play Arena decently well a few times then you can build a very decent deck to ladder and earn more gold with. If you want to play Control Warrior then you will have to safe up gold for a long time or spend money, if you want to play Aggro Pala/Lock/Rogue then you can get into it pretty much immediately, swings and roundabouts as they say...
AdmiralKnight i already adressed arena... i said if one is not able to constantly make gold from these runs its hard to get a lot of packs fast and going 3/3 which is the average for a casual gamer will not make a profit
its true what trump said about the fact that hearthstone isn't pay to win. the proof is that I didnt pay anything in hearthstone and still I have 11 legendary cards! even though I started playing only in the last season before the open beta
Trump how do you do that you have almost every single game mana wyrm, frost bold and giant, thats so....well i envy you. When i play mage/warrior i almost NEVER get mana wyrm / war axe -_-
"My thighs are open."
- Earthen Ring Farseer
Prism trump for president!
***** You dont mishear that sentence, you WANT to hear "Thighs".
***** i though that the earthen ring farseer said " bye bye zungurgo men" at the time i thought zungurgo men were bad people i wow
should i also say i have slight hearing problems?
Earthen ring farspreader
Well, not my favorite dragon, if its about "favorite dragon legendary from Hearthstone" its Malygos (if I spelled it correctly anyways), if its from the lore then it is Deathwing. BUT if its about any dragon card I would go with the Azure Drake, I put it in almost every deck (almost).
The Azure Drake featured in the card's art is actually Malygos' son.
well alex is certainly my favorite, it saved my ass and gave me the win so many times(since i play freeze mage).
i really like deathwing too, too bad i dont have it :(
Are Drakes and Dragons the same thing?
Drakes are dragon's child
card969 Nope Drakes have bat wings that is Two Legs while Dragons have four legs.
"Your soul shall be mine!"
"You asked for it."
It always sounds like Jaina is giving up when she faces Gul'dan.
that feeling when you watch his vod for 25 min and then realize you've seen it all live some days ago ^_^
i really like this new kind of thumbnails you are putting on the vids now, keep up the good updates! :)
Muffin is Life, Muffin is Hope.
Alex brings muffins? New favorite dragon.
Muffin is life, Muffin is love
Alex brings life, Alex loves muffins too
Watch out, Derpy is coming.
Muffin is made, Muffin is Eaten.
I bring life and BLEEEEEEEEEEH
Thank you Trump! I love having something to fall asleep to :D not that your boring i just need something good to watch
Man I just love this game.
Opend like 300~ packs so far all i get is 2x cho 1x cleff :(
9x Shield slam tho!
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NO WAY ? U GOT 9X OF A BASIC CARD? HOW? nice lies bro to get attention
Nice Lies.
opened* packs*?
y i mean slam sorry fixed now.
Ps: Tony1035610 stop being a fucking douchebag.
Regalya You opened 300 packs and don't know proper names of cards? Hard to believe.
Can we agree that he learned how to play mage and maybe see other stuff ? Like an arena ? :)
TBH I really enjoy this Frost Giants constructed. For the most part, I hate watching constructed save a few decks. However, the win conditions of cycle decks always intrigue me more, as it reminds me of the consistency you would aim for in MTG.
Everyone hates freeze mage, miracle rogue, etc, because you often can't stop your opponent from winning.... but that's how card games should be played: You vs your opponent, not your minions vs his. These types of decks are where the game will inevitably go when the card collection is expanded and more win conditions are established outside of basic minion play.
Rave7wist Hehe , I agree with you , but doesn't hurt to post other stuff too :).He posted so much mage that I think I learned how to play :) Legend rank here I come , but first need some cards :).
Trump decided to join the ranks of 'pro' Hearthstone players and compete at Blizzcon and other tourneys. So it's constructed grind from here on out. He now skips daily arenas too. Not a decision I personally approve.
Semyon Galtsev he said he would do daily arenas once he reaches legend this season
Nathan Perran It's still a huge deviation from the Trump his original fanbase subbed to. He's a mediocre constructed player, but a stellar arena conqueror. Should've stuck to what he's good at. Not my call though.
Even if I'm not good enough to beat Miracle Rogue without my opponent basically throwing it, it's comforting to know that they, like everything else, can still be... Trumped.
That last warlock messed up. By casting Soulfire first, he has a 16.66% chance of winning (33% chance to discard amani X 50% chance of landing the knife). However, if he had played the knife juggler first, and then the soulfire, he'd have a 25% chance of winning (50% chance to discard amani X 50 chance of landing the knife.).
that jambre thinks he already win lol well played!
I suck at making my own decks so I have used yours. Having the deck list on the side is super helpful in addition to being a nice display of editing for the viewers. Holy hell, it's good but it comes down to the wire a lot of the time. You sure know how to use some real bleeding-edge decks. Even delivered a win against someone that had gotten to the legendary ranks themselves at least once.
huh, I could've sworn Alexstrazsa said "I bring life and death". Cuz you know...she reks enemy hp points given the chance. But I guess its like some people thinking Leeroy says "Time's up, lets do this"
. . isnt that what he says? til he dies anyway then its "at least i had chicken"
Looks like because of the "I bring life an- bhleeeerhg!!". If your internet is laggy, you can hear she saying before seting the hit points.
Leeroy does say that...lel
he says thumbs up lets do this 0.o
SpyCrab97 damn it spycrab, now im gonna hear that everytime he's played.. .YOU RUINED LEEROY :(
At the end of the first game Trump turned into Amaz for a second to call the fireball xD
omfg, in that last game, the warlock had a nice chance to win with the knife juggler :( damn soulfire.
I made an anti-freeze-mage deck because of you, and haven't seen a single freeze-mage.
i totally love your vids.. i actually prefer watching you play this game instead of playing it by myself :'D
"i fortunately have a big thing"
that was probably directed to the ladies
24:00 Freeze mage doesn't have to be boring. Sometimes it leads to apocalyptic royal rumbles.
But tell me how! How do I prevent them!?
Wow.. It's the original Vlad :)
Can anyone explain how legendary ranking works?
For example how many ranks you can expect to climb or drop after a match. Trump possibly implied facing a higher ranked player means you can climb more, but that may just be me reading too much into it.
I'd appreciate an explanation or a link to a good source of info.
I Think it depends on how much you wins and loses
I would like to try this deck on the current meta XD
I thought she said "I bring life... and VHROOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAW!"
how does he make the thing on the left pop up that tells him what cards he has left in his deck
23:42 you had the victory
How?
Just remember when you got the win along with the health and mana ping yourself with fireblast to assert your dominance.
True you could have the whole collection, but most people also don't have the luxury of streaming HS for a living.
Does anyone know where to find the picture of the thumbnail? I'm curious to see the full thing. Thanks in advance!
Nozdormu is the superior dragon, spells OP
Wrong card, try again.
Yotam Shitrit
I am not a smart man...
My favourite list goes:
Noz
Malygos
Neltharion
Alex
Kalec
Ysera
Thrall (we know it's going to happen)
Kooru Why would they add a Thrall card when the shaman hero IS Thrall?
Cole Skeptic Lacks You clearly missed the point of my comment, in the description it says Alex, everyone's favorite dragon. I added thrall meaning he will probably become an aspect, considering the current status of stuff...
Kooru Who cares about "The current status of stuff"? The paladin hero is fucking Uther, and hes dead.
Hearthstone doesnt follow overall continuity, it picks and chooses based on all the lore.
Casper Christensen bro, hes talking about WoW
MTG Unicorn His original comment sounded like it referred to thrall becoming a card.
At around 17:00, I think Alex his face would've been best since he was aggro and probably didn't run heal and you had block+leathal
Oh my God! He missed lethal! It would have been hilarious if he had not topdecked Thalnos and had lost because of it!:D Though he did, so the missed lethal turned out not to matter
Ysera is my favorite dragon :).
wasn't this paladin deck already in another video ?
I feel like Antonidas is weak in this deck. Trump rarely plays him, and while his ability is amazing when used, I feel like it's too situational. Maybe it's because of the rank he's at, but things are always too neck and neck to "set up" Antonidas so to speak. I'm not exactly sure what I'd replace him with, but he just doesn't seem that strong here.
That's exactly my opinion, too much win conditions in this deck: alex, giants, antonidas. Pyroblast is much easier to execute. But interesting thing about antonidas is he can draw attention and make you live longer. Similar to thalnos: he can be used for spell dmg or cycle. Maybe this is the reason.
BTW, adding mage wyrms in this deck, compared to Otter's version, makes early game very good. Very good addition.
Леонид Нестеров no its not the reason. if your opponent has a lot of sustain or you have to use your fireballs/lances on your minions antonidas helps
rruzgarr97 to get fireballs from antonidas usually you cast mirror images/coin/frostbolt+ice lance with him. It's low cost spells. But usually this spells are already used vs aggro decks, so antonidas truns out to be just 5/7 minion. But you are right, against warriors/healadins antonidas will definitely help.
Antonidas is good against decks that have a lot of damage mitigation like heal and armor. You almost can not win against control Warrior with this deck but Antonidas makes it much easier to win.
People complain about Hearthstone being pay2win.
You don't need to pay for boosters like in other card games, and when you do they are like $$2 not $7~ (AUS money) nor do you need to pay for travel to go and play against other people. Also, no need for storage of your collection or card sleeves, life counting dice or whatever you fancy there.
Yes, money helps but if you want to play a card game Hearthstone is probably the cheapest one you can play, so the complaints that it is pay2win are pretty silly when you compare to like every card game ever. Also, cards which are rare? 1600 dust or hundreds of dollars? 1600 dust is a lot cheaper if you ask me if you are gonna pay money.
Building my collection on Hearthstone is hard, and I gave up playing Magic due to money issues, but the thing is... without money you CAN build a collection on Hearthstone unlike with any other card game.
+Chaedi That argument tho: "It's not pay2win because the money you need to get an advantage over others is way less than in other card games". "pretty silly". Lemme try this out ehh: "No no this shooter isnt pay2win dude. I mean i paid 20$ for that gun that massacres the whole enemy team, but remember this other shooter? I bet having a gun there as strong as this one here would cost over 60$!!"
+ItsMeHeHe this game is pay 2 hopefully speed up the process you cant pay for specific cards just speed up chances of getting them.
penguin sniper Oh really? Didnt know how Hearthstone worked, thx for explaining. Eh by the way, what exactly is this thing called "Blizzard"?
eh sorry its kinda hard to expect you knew when you're defending the pay2win arguments hur i didnt mention i thought it was pay2speedup hurrrr its almost as if you implied you where on the pay2win side don't be an ass when you aren't giving the info and assuming i know it when you yourself with your prior statement implied that you think its pay2win.
I did not say anything about wether Heartstone is pay2win or not. I mentioned critic to the argumentation of "Chaedi"
18:15
Theres also like 8 epics that cost 400 each.
any one else notice trump is friends with mia rose at the end? I sold her a mage portal once.
Man, I feel bad because of all of your top-deck wins xD
hi
Sorry, but in my opinion mage gets boring very fast.............
Hey ,how is your deckcounter called?
Why is everybody hating you so suddenly?
She brings death and rage quits
Trump,Why don't you clear the Yeti with de fireball instead of the frostbolt? it's more efficient when you have the ice lance in your hand,the fireball does 6 damage for 4 mana,and the frostbolt+ice lance do 7 damage for 3 mana
muy largo me abure pero esta bacan quisiera saber el nombre del juego
Pay to win or not .
- As Trump says you can get most cards from just doing quests and arena.
- However the adventure cards seem like a necessity to me.
So its
- Pay a little to do your hoppy (which is fair)
- Pay to save time if you feel like it.
Was not aware of that =) Well then it is truly pay to save time and that is nice.
Thx for reply
Warlock at the end should have played Juggler first, then Soulfire to the face, 50/50 on discarding the Berserker, then played Doomguard, 50/50 on knife to the face and Doomguard charge to the face for the win. Needs a fair bit of help from RNGesus but could still happen.
Haha very true.
I once fought a priest in arena who had guardian of kings, probably a bug right?
As a new player (who has watched for a while now) I don't think it's pay to win.
Using a variant of Trump's F2P shaman deck (A variant because I don't have all the cards) I still have the potential to beat people with decent "top tier" decks.
On the other hand, I think it's a pain having to grind it out to get the fun decks. Such as token druid, freeze mage, etc.
what software is that one on the left that allows you ro see your drawn cards and played ones?
It's Post-Process, done by editing.
Omg super obvious lethal missed!!!
Sorry long question but could be very interesting, you may have already thought about it. At around 30 mins you are hoping to draw Thalnos as your 20th card. Intuition tells us you only have 1/11 chance as there are 11 cards left. The thing is at the start of the game, the probability that Thalnos was in the first 20 cards was 2/3. Not sure but, Based on a concept in probability theory called the 'Monty Hall Problem' I think that the probability that Thalnos is card 20 is still 2/3 and there is only 1/3 chance of being in the remaining 10. Have you heard of this?
Could you explain clearly the comparaison with monty hall ? I can't see the link between it and that situation.
An interesting though charzy, but I think this doesn't apply here. What you're saying is true only for the very beginning of the game, when the deck has 30 cards in it. However, at every draw the remainder of the deck changes and you must re-apply this analysis each time this happens. Of course, the cards in the remainder will be drawn in the order determined by the initial shuffling, but this doesn't matter, from the probabilistic view the deck is a black box for you.
A simple counter-argument: suppose you label each card from 1 to 30, and Thalnos just corresponds to one of these numbers. Thalnos is no special from other cards in the remaining 11, so using your theory you could say that any of the remaining cards has a 2/3 probability of being drawn (since at the beginning it could have been in the first 20 with equal probability). Obviously then you cannot have a 2/3 probability of drawing each of the 11 cards :)
How come he keeps mentioning Kobold Geomancer when it's not in his deck?
@Steffan Lind ....... I don't even... Maybe you should watch again and see how you failed.
"I could right now have the entire collection for free." Yes Trump, that's because at the beginning you spent money on good cards that got you lots and lots of wins. If you played for free it would be much harder to win so often and you'd have to play for so long just to get enough gold for more and more packs.
Joroko Korojo This is what i did for a good start :P : (I love alex so much)
1. Made a new account.
2. Won the 6 games , then opened the first deck.
3. Got A golden legendary , it was a popular one , i can't remember though
4. Disenchanted it right away , and crafted Alex
Well , that first deck you open has the highest chance of getting a legendary, and i have tested it a lot , the time before that i got Deathwing from first deck , try it. (Malygos another time , and Ysera from first one) I mean i did have an above average collection on the other account , but it had no legendary cards , and i wanted to play Freeze Mage , which Alex is the main card in it. And i wasn't really enjoying other decks than playing a deck that wins late game :P ( I am not a fan of playing agressive , why not play passive and one shot your opponent in late game right ? :D)
he does free to play runs...
what do the numbers mean in the gold hexagons on the upper and lower left corner
After you win enough stars at rank 1 you get moved in to legendary ranks and you get a gold hexagon as your rank symbol instead of the usual ones. The number is what rank you are in the region you're playing in compared to everyone else that is legendary ranked.
In legendary rank, the hierarchy is based on your win rate against other players (plus some maths). The lower the number, the better the player/deck combination is. Top 16 legendary is notoriously hard to get into.
Pack luck is a factor also I have spent no money and only use gold to buy single packs so far I've pulled 2
Legendaries
First rogue missed letal lol
As far as the paying thing: Yes, in order to be rank 1 legend, you need a lot of expensive cards. But fact of the matter is, 99% of the people wouldn't get there even with those cards. 99% of the people will still be at much lower, and over there you can also get by with cheaper decks. And the 1% that are good enough to get to a "professional" rank, got there by playing SO much, that they earned enough gold to buy all the good cards with ingame currency anyway.
Regardless, let's just say this game is pay-to-win with the option to spend a ton of time to get the cards for free. Now someone find me another collectible card game that has that option and is cheaper than Hearthstone. I'm not too familiar with anything other than Magic the Gathering, so there very well could be one out there somewhere. But if we're just looking at Magic and its clones (Pokemon, Yugio, ect), then Hearthstone is far FAR more forgiving that that game is cost wise. Anyone who complains about Hearthstone being pay-to-win is obviously new to this type of game and has no appreciation for what Blizzard does with its business model. Hearthstone is the only CCG game I've been able to play for free and still have all the rarer cards the people who spent money have. And I'm not even that great of a player.
My favorite is Maly
also luck is best way to win (second legendary was rag)
Speaking of bringing life and hope, does anyone know what Cairne says? Something about Earth-brothers, I think.
" Take heart, young one. The earthmother is here."
"Take heart, young one. The earthmother is near."
When you play against a warrior: "Garrosh! You are not fit to rule the horde!"
Eric Roth and versing the warrior? i know illidian talks to the druid in a "hello brother" way, but never been lucky(unlucky?) to of seen bloodhoof facing garrosh
"Garrosh! You are not fit to rule the horde!"
Any advise on beating Frostmages? I never seem to be able to win from them
1. Play Hunter
2. Use Flare when opponent stacks secrets.
3. ???
4. Profit
Control warrior is considered to be the hard counter, with druid as a soft counter.
Search 'The Monty Hall Problem - Animated' on TH-cam
Ever had an Ozdormu played on you?
a Nozdormu*
am i the only one on mobile who will slide the screen to the right to bring up the twitch chat lol
I also do this....
Lol, somebody else who forgets that Twitch and TH-cam are different? I'm not lonely any more.
I prefer Rag's fireball slinger.
Is 2 mana 2/2 spell damage [common minion] replacement for bloodmage thalnos? :D
Yes :)
+Koffciak loot hoarder is better imo
+Koffciak Depends whether or not you value it for spell damage or card draw. Thalnos is a weird card to replace because of how much you want both, but it's a preference.
Is this before or after his Otter freeze mage training? I'm never sure what order these are in. :)
Follow-up thought, would Trump / Jens consider adding dates to these videos so we know where this sits relative to his live streams?
After. First he tanks is rank with Warrior, then begins the Freezer Burn mage with Otter. Then he makes adjustments and follows up with the similar Giants mage.
(You can tell if you look at his Twitch stream archives.)
shoutenry Thx shoutenry. xo
Maybe in another 100 games I'll get Alex, for no I guess this construct would be too lacking.
The main problem with hearthstone concerning pay to win that I have is that there aren't a lot of great 8 mana+ cards that aren't epic/legendary but that's just my opinion.
Unfortunately, 8 mana+ cards are all epic / legendary
I don't care what anyone says this game is p2W, I can't stop playing it though xD
29:07 - xD
30:05 he could have had a 50% chance to win, how can he be rank legend and not see that???
30:08 - Am I wrong, or should the warlock have played the Knife Juggler and then the Doomguard followed by Soulfire and sacrifice the Amani Berserker?
By putting out Knife Juggler and then the Doomguard the Knife Juggler could have dealt that one missing damage to Trump and the warlock would have won?
Knife Juggler, Soul Fire, then Doomguard. 50/50 shot the Soul Fire doesn't discard Doomguard, and 50/50 shot the Juggler hits Trump. 1 in 4 chance to win.
Yeah too RNG
Your way would be impossible because doomguard would discard both amani and soulfire... but you're right in saying that the warlock made a mistake.
The way he did it, he had a 66% chance of discarding either the knife juggler or doomguard, which is bad. If he had played the knife juggler, he would have had a 50% chance of discarding the doomguard. Slightly better odds, but that could have made the difference.
Of course, there would always be the 50/50 on the knife anyways, so his chances at winning were low.
Much skill deck
What's up with all these Rouges? It seems like a shit ton of players at legendary or 1-2 rank play Rouges.
My names Alex so this video is kinda weird/cool to watch...
I think you missed lethal at 9.50. 2 frost bolts + 2 ice lances + 2 whelps + fireblast = 17.
He has drake taunt up.
can you see that taunt ????
Excepts there was a taunt in front of the whelps
How do you get past the Taunt with the Whelps?
***** Uhm, what?
"Big dragons are cool" -Trump 2014
good video trump.
Last game would be lost if he would place argent squire between the 3-2's
''Big dragons are cool'' -Our master, Trump
why do you never play paladin or hunter?
because he only plays the easiest classes.
Uhhh you just said hunter isn't one of the easiest classes. Are you kidding?
BillyMaizes
what makes you think hunter is easy?
He played a miracle rogue. To be honest, rogue itself can be difficult to play, miracle at the most extreme.
Because I've played it and compared to Druid, which is what I nearly always play, if requires no thought. Although some midgame hunters require thought. It's called huntard for a reason buddy
29:07 "And fortunately I have a big thing" - Trump
Just try contemplate how greed infested some people are, where they can not register the concept that they downloaded the game for FREE. That means that a team of people spent months, and months of their time to create a game, and then spend weeks smoothing out bugs, so you could have a good gaming experience. Then after all that, you get some people who still complain that it's not fair that some people are buying cards, because it will take to long to earn the cards with gold, and the only reason they are loosing is because the opponent has better cards. It's like some people, feel the developers owe them something, when in reality it's the biggest slap in the face. If the P2W problem is to distressing, the simple solution is just to uninstall the game and find another free game to play.
about the pay to win stuff:
ofc you could have the entire selection now without spending money... you make a lot of gold from arena
if one is not good enough to constantly get a profit from arena runs then it is gonna take a friggin loooooong time to get enough legendaries to build some high tier decks
in my opinion it couldnt hurt to give players options to get more gold daily... the quests get a pack every 2 days on average and the 10 gold for every 3 wins... well even if every match is won that is still like 1 pack in 2.5 hours if every match is only 5 minutes long
thats pretty ridiculous and makes it kinda obvious how p2w this game actually is (at least if you are not a pro and only play like 2 hours daily on average)
that being said i still like hearthstone and im gonna keep playing it
Get good or go home.
Well I payed only at the beginning of Closed Beta (1 arena entry) just to get Golden Gelbin. And thats all. Playing VERY casually (somewhere 7-10 games in three days) don't have any problems in ladder.
In ladder I play priest only and all dailies doing in arena. At this point have 2k gold (for nax) and almost all top tier legendaries.
One suggestion. Never buy packs. Buy only arena. even with 0-3 stats it is good collection wise (you gain more dust than just by buying pack and later on dust is the only thing you need cause packs won't give needed legendary immidiately while dust can)
The issue is you're using your gold to buy packs. Use your gold for arenas. The more you play the more gold you get. Plus the free packs of course. Even if you're not a pro, going 3/3 will get you a pack and usually enough gold to break even. Not good enough to go 3/3? ...well then your issue isn't with the cards :P
It is a collectable card game, ofcourse it is pay to win, you need cards to play the game! If they gave out the cards for free then how could Blizzard make money of this game?!?
The whole discussion is stupid and results from people not understanding the basic concepts of "collectable card game" and "money-making companies".
Besides all this, if you play your Quests every day (or 3 quests every 3 days) and you spend a normal amount of money on a game (you pay for normal games, so buy a 40 pack at the start and you basicly bought the game) or play Arena decently well a few times then you can build a very decent deck to ladder and earn more gold with. If you want to play Control Warrior then you will have to safe up gold for a long time or spend money, if you want to play Aggro Pala/Lock/Rogue then you can get into it pretty much immediately, swings and roundabouts as they say...
AdmiralKnight i already adressed arena... i said if one is not able to constantly make gold from these runs its hard to get a lot of packs fast
and going 3/3 which is the average for a casual gamer will not make a profit
i kinda prefer otters deck to this
Yeah, I agree.
its true what trump said about the fact that hearthstone isn't pay to win.
the proof is that I didnt pay anything in hearthstone and still I have 11 legendary cards! even though I started playing only in the last season before the open beta
Trump how do you do that you have almost every single game mana wyrm, frost bold and giant, thats so....well i envy you. When i play mage/warrior i almost NEVER get mana wyrm / war axe -_-
When you like him to get 9000 coins from a random game, I believe you will get what you want the card
To get 9000? It would last for ... 3 years at minimum for me to get :(
I mean, there are many trump cards from Arena to win the game
30:27 "MissMiaRose has gone offline" haha trump you rascal you
better to make a goal of play to win not pay
Thumbs up if you saw trump make a noob mistake at 2:51
Trump, can you make a setup video pl0x
i feel alone watching trump classic constructed vids in the year of our Lord 2022. anyone out there?