This is the sharpest looking new pen I've seen in a while. I love how ZEBRA is stamped, not printed, on the clip, and love the flattened dip in the barrel for that unique profile. Bravo, Zebra. I'll be ordering the two pack soon. In the meantime, let me just say something about the dreaded plastic threads (and other plastic internals for that matter). First, this pen costs 8 bucks. Don't forget that. It's not exactly trying to fill that buy-for-life space in the market. I won't be bequeathing this pen to my children in my will. If you want metal threads, there's an $80 machined metal Kickstarter pen out there with your name on it. Second, plastic threads have advantages-namely, they produce a much more snug closure that is highly unlikely to shake loose, no rubber o-ring required. Also, this will reduce the pen's weight (yes, there are some who really like "heft" but I like writability better). We've all been handling mass market plastic pens our whole lives-Pilot G-2s, EnerGels, you name it. How often has one of these pens broken on you? Ever? Cue the replies with anecdotes about them breaking. Okay, but it's very rare and usually involves some unlikely accident. Believe it or not, I've had a red EnerGel for like 15 or 20 years, still with original refill (because how often do you use red ink?), and I've never worried about it snapping in half. It's still looks almost new, except the plastic bit that overlaps the top of the clip broke off at some point. Clip, tip, and barrel is where metal really counts IMO, and that's where the G-450 has it.
That looks really nice. For several reasons, this might be the EDC pen I've long been looking for. Metal, matte black, but also (drum roll please...) with rubber grip! (There're a lot of great looking machined metal pens out there that are beautiful but would be slippy and uncomfortable.) Smaller in overall size, which I prefer. Gel ink. Understated, sleek design, no highly visible branding or logos. Oh, and reasonably priced. Definitely one I'll check out.
Even though the front section has a rubber grip, is it still brass underneath? Is the tip brass too? If not, I'm concerned about balance. Is it top-heavy?
Exactly my thoughts. I don't like a semi-metal pen which shaves metal off the front, and off the threading. Those are the two things you don't do. I'd go for the F-701.
ngl, I think I prefer the looks of the 450 over the 750. Just a bummer that it uses plastic threads. Probably fine in the present, but might make it less than a buy-it-for-life quality item. And probably don't want to sit on it! Still... I might find one in my pocket! On the note of these Zebras, I just applied some PTFE lube to my 701. Unfortunately it's still quite scratchy. I still am curious to try your Z-mulsion suggestion for it, but I don't find myself too interested in pocketing it lately with the scratchiness of it...
I prefer blue ink; however, I don't find that Zebra offers the blue ink JK refill in a 0.5 mm. They offer it in their G-402 retractable gel pens, but I'm not interested (at least not for these particular refill cartridges) in purchasing a whole pen body for its refill. I'm afraid I'm stuck with using 0.7 mm refills (model# ZEBRA 88122) which is acceptable to me as it's blue ink which I prefer.
Yes, if you use enough of Acro's BRFV ink and cut the cartridge down to size, it is indeed compatible with this particular pen. I knew I had the option of doing so, but I wanted to use blue gel and not blue hybrid. As far as how long the JK refills last, I cannot speak to it. I do not use this particular refill for an everyday ink. How fast depends on how often you're using it and for what kind of writing, i.e., extensive note-taking vs quick jotting. I've always assumed that a less viscous ink like gel coming out of a thin/short cartridge will run out quickly, especially if you're writing a lot, so I always have extra cartridges on hand. Always, always purchase a decent amount of refills if a pen using these refills is going to be your everyday writer.
Regarding the 750. It came apart in my pocket and after putting the spring back in and refill, ill click the back and the ink doesn't even come close to popping out. Did something fall out on the back side of the ink cartridge inside the top part of the pen? Thanks
I like this pen as I do the G-750. Everyone, save your money and don't invest in the 350; there's absolutely nothing distinctive about it. Thanks for the video!
I wish you could put the 450 grip on the 750 body like you can put the 750 grip on the 450 body. I like the 450 body + 750 grip, but now I essentially have 1 usable pen compared to 2.
I was wondering what rollerball metal body refill would you recommend that fits in a 2020 rotring green ballpoint pen and would give an extra fine/fine line. I know this is very specific After using the original refill I’d like to try a rollerball hack to be able to use fp ink in the metal rollerball refill after I used up the ink 🤔 I’m also a bit confused about the refill videos you’ve posted does it really matter if a refill has uncapped/capped along with it? I also really enjoy your videos the level of detail that goes through explaining things is very incite full.
Sal can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you'll be able to hack a refillable rollerball into a Rotring 600 ballpoint. Refillable rollerballs have the nib/tip and feed built into the pen body, so all you replace is the ink reservoir. Ballpoint, disposable rollerball, and gel refills have the ink, feed, and nib all in one self-contained refill, and the pen body is more or less just a tube with a cap or retraction mechanism. I suppose you could try to get a Schmidt or Ohto Ceramic or something like that, pull the tip out with pliers, drain and rinse the ink and refill it with fp ink, but I have no idea if that would work. Also, there are certain kinds of rollerball refills made specifically for capless pens, like a Schmidt capless or a Uniball Vision Elite RT refill. As a fountain pen fan myself, I can't imagine any fountain pen ink that wouldn't leak and/or dry out immediately. The other problem, though, is that the Rotring 600 takes a Parker G2 refill, but it doesn't even have the tolerances for all G2s; I haven't been able to get an Ohto Flash Dry refill to fit. I doubt you'll be able to get anything bigger than a G2 to fit.
@@MonkeyFarmFrankenstein Thanks for replying! I actually ment refilling a rollerball refill as you described by cleaning out the sponge that carries the ink (forgot the name for it) and then refilling the sponge with ink. I've seen it been done before specifically with rollerball cartridges (I've also done the hack with a dried up copic multiliner refill) and wanted to know if any rollerball refills fit the rotring 600 ballpoint pen
Apparently this is not well known, but the f-701 is not all metal. There is a plastic sleeve that runs throughout the whole body, the metal part of the barrel is actually very thin
I was able to finally order this though Amazon international shipping, thanks for the link! Now just have to wait a month for delivery lol... are there any hacks to improve/fit a better refill in this pen?
@@unsharpen yeah I have written an email to Zebra and also left a comment on their Instagram account inquiring about pens, now the wait begins. Your content is awesome BTW! Thanks.
This is the sharpest looking new pen I've seen in a while. I love how ZEBRA is stamped, not printed, on the clip, and love the flattened dip in the barrel for that unique profile. Bravo, Zebra. I'll be ordering the two pack soon. In the meantime, let me just say something about the dreaded plastic threads (and other plastic internals for that matter). First, this pen costs 8 bucks. Don't forget that. It's not exactly trying to fill that buy-for-life space in the market. I won't be bequeathing this pen to my children in my will. If you want metal threads, there's an $80 machined metal Kickstarter pen out there with your name on it. Second, plastic threads have advantages-namely, they produce a much more snug closure that is highly unlikely to shake loose, no rubber o-ring required. Also, this will reduce the pen's weight (yes, there are some who really like "heft" but I like writability better). We've all been handling mass market plastic pens our whole lives-Pilot G-2s, EnerGels, you name it. How often has one of these pens broken on you? Ever? Cue the replies with anecdotes about them breaking. Okay, but it's very rare and usually involves some unlikely accident. Believe it or not, I've had a red EnerGel for like 15 or 20 years, still with original refill (because how often do you use red ink?), and I've never worried about it snapping in half. It's still looks almost new, except the plastic bit that overlaps the top of the clip broke off at some point. Clip, tip, and barrel is where metal really counts IMO, and that's where the G-450 has it.
That looks really nice. For several reasons, this might be the EDC pen I've long been looking for. Metal, matte black, but also (drum roll please...) with rubber grip! (There're a lot of great looking machined metal pens out there that are beautiful but would be slippy and uncomfortable.) Smaller in overall size, which I prefer. Gel ink. Understated, sleek design, no highly visible branding or logos. Oh, and reasonably priced. Definitely one I'll check out.
i love your videos! ive been watching a bunch of them, i find them both calming and continually interesting. thanks for the work you do!
Glad you like them!
Just ordered from Amazon. I prefer the form factor of the 450 vs the 750.
Great review! I have been waiting for this release!
Nice pen. It’s just that the refill is too tiny. Is there another option for writing longer?
Even though the front section has a rubber grip, is it still brass underneath? Is the tip brass too? If not, I'm concerned about balance. Is it top-heavy?
Exactly my thoughts. I don't like a semi-metal pen which shaves metal off the front, and off the threading. Those are the two things you don't do.
I'd go for the F-701.
ngl, I think I prefer the looks of the 450 over the 750. Just a bummer that it uses plastic threads. Probably fine in the present, but might make it less than a buy-it-for-life quality item. And probably don't want to sit on it! Still... I might find one in my pocket!
On the note of these Zebras, I just applied some PTFE lube to my 701. Unfortunately it's still quite scratchy. I still am curious to try your Z-mulsion suggestion for it, but I don't find myself too interested in pocketing it lately with the scratchiness of it...
I love my g-450 ,I switched out the .7 for a .5
Yeah, the .7 leans more broad. I've got to get a few in the 0.5. Wish blue-black ink was offered.
Yeah, that might be the only "alteration" I make. Prefer the finer line, and as an added bonus the refill will last longer.
I prefer blue ink; however, I don't find that Zebra offers the blue ink JK refill in a 0.5 mm. They offer it in their G-402 retractable gel pens, but I'm not interested (at least not for these particular refill cartridges) in purchasing a whole pen body for its refill. I'm afraid I'm stuck with using 0.7 mm refills (model# ZEBRA 88122) which is acceptable to me as it's blue ink which I prefer.
Yes, if you use enough of Acro's BRFV ink and cut the cartridge down to size, it is indeed compatible with this particular pen. I knew I had the option of doing so, but I wanted to use blue gel and not blue hybrid. As far as how long the JK refills last, I cannot speak to it. I do not use this particular refill for an everyday ink. How fast depends on how often you're using it and for what kind of writing, i.e., extensive note-taking vs quick jotting. I've always assumed that a less viscous ink like gel coming out of a thin/short cartridge will run out quickly, especially if you're writing a lot, so I always have extra cartridges on hand. Always, always purchase a decent amount of refills if a pen using these refills is going to be your everyday writer.
Regarding the 750. It came apart in my pocket and after putting the spring back in and refill, ill click the back and the ink doesn't even come close to popping out. Did something fall out on the back side of the ink cartridge inside the top part of the pen? Thanks
I like this pen as I do the G-750. Everyone, save your money and don't invest in the 350; there's absolutely nothing distinctive about it. Thanks for the video!
The g301 is good too and cheaper
The 350 is pretty bad. Slight lateral movement broke the plastic mount for the metal clip. I was really disappointed. But 750 and 450 are stellar.
@@7kelush739 The G402 is underrated, I think.
I wish you could put the 450 grip on the 750 body like you can put the 750 grip on the 450 body. I like the 450 body + 750 grip, but now I essentially have 1 usable pen compared to 2.
Pentel Kerry ?, Pentel Graph 1000 For Pro? Or do you think another pen is better?
Another one on the list!
Have you tried to fit other refills in either pen? Euro style or maybe fisher?
Haven’t experimented much but I will.
Just order the 450 and the 750.
Small capacity refill and some plastic but also easily replaceable for around $5-6 and the refills are cheap
I was wondering what rollerball metal body refill would you recommend that fits in a 2020 rotring green ballpoint pen and would give an extra fine/fine line. I know this is very specific After using the original refill I’d like to try a rollerball hack to be able to use fp ink in the metal rollerball refill after I used up the ink 🤔 I’m also a bit confused about the refill videos you’ve posted does it really matter if a refill has uncapped/capped along with it? I also really enjoy your videos the level of detail that goes through explaining things is very incite full.
Sal can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you'll be able to hack a refillable rollerball into a Rotring 600 ballpoint. Refillable rollerballs have the nib/tip and feed built into the pen body, so all you replace is the ink reservoir. Ballpoint, disposable rollerball, and gel refills have the ink, feed, and nib all in one self-contained refill, and the pen body is more or less just a tube with a cap or retraction mechanism. I suppose you could try to get a Schmidt or Ohto Ceramic or something like that, pull the tip out with pliers, drain and rinse the ink and refill it with fp ink, but I have no idea if that would work.
Also, there are certain kinds of rollerball refills made specifically for capless pens, like a Schmidt capless or a Uniball Vision Elite RT refill. As a fountain pen fan myself, I can't imagine any fountain pen ink that wouldn't leak and/or dry out immediately.
The other problem, though, is that the Rotring 600 takes a Parker G2 refill, but it doesn't even have the tolerances for all G2s; I haven't been able to get an Ohto Flash Dry refill to fit. I doubt you'll be able to get anything bigger than a G2 to fit.
@@MonkeyFarmFrankenstein Thanks for replying! I actually ment refilling a rollerball refill as you described by cleaning out the sponge that carries the ink (forgot the name for it) and then refilling the sponge with ink. I've seen it been done before specifically with rollerball cartridges (I've also done the hack with a dried up copic multiliner refill) and wanted to know if any rollerball refills fit the rotring 600 ballpoint pen
Apparently this is not well known, but the f-701 is not all metal. There is a plastic sleeve that runs throughout the whole body, the metal part of the barrel is actually very thin
I think the original F701s were like that, and then Zebra released an upgraded all-metal version in about 2018.
It was an updated model I was disassembling when I discovered this.
@@professorsafari maybe it's actually a nylon sleeve which would be way more robust than plastic, I think.
I was able to finally order this though Amazon international shipping, thanks for the link! Now just have to wait a month for delivery lol... are there any hacks to improve/fit a better refill in this pen?
Can you give the link please?
Always out of stock and only available in the US! Hmm very nice Zebra.
Give it time. These things always settle down and become easier to find
@@unsharpen yeah I have written an email to Zebra and also left a comment on their Instagram account inquiring about pens, now the wait begins. Your content is awesome BTW! Thanks.
omg!