1. Nerds create hobby that is fun and interesting. They establish rules that keep the hobby as good as it is. 2. More nerds join in and follow the rules. Hobby experiences its golden age. 3. Newcomer nerds advertise the hobby to their normie friends. Normies enjoy the hobby but don't care as much. 4. Demographics shift and there are more and more normies enjoying the hobby. They attract even more casual audience. 5. Casuals find the hobby fun but demand it to be dumbed down and rules to be relaxed so they can enjoy it. 6. Corporates take interest in the hobby and approach nerds. Corporates bribe nerds and take control of the hobby. 7. Corporates dumb down and deregulate the hobby to increase mass appeal. Normies and casuals outnumber nerds. 8. Hobby is no longer recognizable. Many nerds leave in disgust. The audience becomes more and more casual. 9. The creative spark of the hobby dies. It becomes corporate and sterile. Normies lose interest and leave. 10. Hobby slowly dies. Casuals leave because everyone else leaves. 11. Nerds look for ways to create something new. 12. Repeat.
@@georgeray1906 It is not easy. I've seen examples of the communities that've zealously protected their hobby. They encounter another problem - lack of funds. Without some sort of fresh blood the original core of the community slowly erodes. Money also erodes. The original creators can't afford to keep the hobby going and it dies. There must be a balance and it is very hard to achieve.
In 200 years after the bombs fell nobody had an idea to clean or get things to work they just sit around like animals in their own piss and shit.This is Fallout 4 all over again.
Bethesda's Fallouts seem to be beholden to the idea that Fallout must never advance beyond the level of survivalists living in bombed-out ruins, or else it's somehow not right.
@@thebk247 Oh yes, a lot of plants, and radioactivity would decline by a large amount after the nuclear weapons. Even in the Old Fallout games. Most of the land was tolerable and livable. There were exceptions such as the old bunker that was destroyed by a bunker busting nuke that you had to go inside, but most places outside the vaults were not setting off radiation detectors all the time. The worst in Fallout 4 was the Diner. I mean there was actual junk sitting outside the building that counted a belonging to Trudy as if she didn’t lock it up, but left it sitting in the dirt. Combined with dead bodies nearby and so on.
Anytime someone says "Just turn your brain off." to enjoy a show that isn't entirely satirical or a full blown comedy or really doesn't even know what it's trying to be.....do not trust their tastes.
I can do it. Or rather I could do it till woke was multiplied by x4 times. Now I cant stop myself from counting diversity hires, good wahmen bad man, oppression reminder etc. I would like to not think, but how the heck am I supposed to do it when it is everywhere.
I DID have my brain off the entire series, and STILL noticed so many flaws it was astounding people are defending it, and thats without even mentioning "lore"
It’s not criticizing capitalism it’s kinda doing what the boys do where they criticize corporate power of mega corporations. Which appeals to socialists on the left and anti globalists on the right.
@@appropriate-channelname3049 The mega corporation presented is a delusional strawman whose goals make no logical sense, so it isn't doing a particularly good job of that. There are plenty of criticisms to be had of big corporations, presenting them as cartoonishly evil supervillains that seek to end the world isn't the way to raise them.
It’s similar to the way people who despise capitalism (or at least their distorted misrepresentation thereof) and they demonstrate their loathing of that caricature by buying Guy Fawkes masks from the world’s largest online seller, Amazon, with royalties going to the world’s fifth largest media and entertainment corporation, WBD.
Power Armor makes you strong enough to send someone flying with a single punch, but not enough to shake off a bunch of weaklings climbing on top of you? Fucking what LMAOOOO
At the risk of blatantly stealing one of Drinker's favorite messages, this series seems like it was mainly created to convey THE MESSAGE™. Lots of evil white men; lots of "capitalism bad, communism good"; lots of POCs and women saving the day. Story is not a requirement of pushing THE MESSAGE™. All that matters is having some glitzy IP you can attach it to so consumers eat it up.
My friend was super-excited for this and he knows I'm a huge Fallout fan, and he's like "Todd Howard is a producer! The guy that created Fallout!" 🤦♂️ This show was rigged from the start.
Honestly, that's what makes the popular reception so strange; if Rings of Power, instead of trying (and failing) to tell a story that seems vaguely Tolkien-esque, was just a goofy action-comedy series, apparently half of the people who hated it for butchering lore, tone, theme, and failing basic writing rules, would have loved it. Because that's the only big difference I see; RoP attempted to feel like Lord of the Rings, like a fan-fiction, while Fallout didn't even try to feel like the games.
@PaladinHD apparently not much, given generally positive reception this show has, it just proves how easy it is to trick people into thinking that your pile os shit is much better than the other ones because you sprinkled some polish on it.
I’m sorry, but why are you here? It’s clearly a Fallout hate video and you decided to defend a Mary Sue character in the comments? I refuse to believe normal real Americans are this stupid and bored. You must be from India and getting paid $.50 per comment from Amazon. Just like the CCP has a real and well documented 50 cent army.
@@His-Most-Catholic-Majestyit is bots, its been proven multiple times and they use bots in comment of yt, again.. proven by synthetic man, and we know amazon own imdb, and we know bethesda use ai bots on starfield reviews! There is no denying facts but they try over and over, defending slop designed to rot your brain and keep you numb and subservient. Literal vault dwellers oblivious to their experimental control..
@@His-Most-Catholic-Majesty it’s funny too because he has played the games, he even references the games directly in a video with critical drinker and Mauler.
The people who made the show forgot to check their calendars, and clocks, unless you want to believe people are throwing massive children's birthday parties with dozens of guests and celebrity appearances at 6Am. Because they forgot what time the bombs dropped.
At least Fallout 3 and 4 had the clocks stopped between 9:45 am and 9:50am EST. Even Fallout 4 feels slightly off considering Nathan and Nora were eating breakfast when it’s almost 10:00am? Really?
If Nate and Nora just had breakfast on the east coast it would likely still be dark in California, barely the crack of dawn. Surely that’s peak time for kids birthday bash complete with cake, afternoon weather reports and mid day cartoons 😑
@@KaosNova2 It is almost like the fallout series has some major lore issues... and a bunch of people are pretending that it doesn't. Then they pretend that the show has major lore issues but when they critique the show it is all "THE CHARACTERS ARE DUMB BECAUSE I HAVE 20/20 HINDSIGHT" which you can do to anybody or any story or sport or pretty much anything. Criticizing actions in the past is super easy.
@@thomgizzizthe original games don't have that problem. And critising something after you've seen it is the only way to do that, plus if it wasn't shit people wouldn't have anything to criticise. Boob.
@@arturovandeley Isn't that a thing in fallout tho, the high luck stat? Like in the universe of the games it's a thing you can scientifically improve somehow
@@thunderspark1536 May very well be, but tv show is a different format of storytelling. Its worst than being lucky. Maximus gets rewarded and rises in a military organization which absolutely should not allow him to do so. He wants a "brother" to be harmed. He lies. He allright betrays the Brotherhood and he is promoted to top brass! Wtf
@@thunderspark1536 You were never excused or pardoned for terrible things you've done just for having a maxed out luck stat in any of the Fallout games. That's not what the stat is supposed to do, it's largely meant for calculating how much critical hit chance and damage your character's attacks will have. The only few times it was ever used in dialogue checks was for the player character guessing something incredibly specific, like the "ice cream" password on a robot's security check.
@@superplayerex2431 Exactly, I see people using special stats as a cope to explain maximus lucking out, the special stats only really benefit the player character, it's a gameplay mechanic, same with stimpaks and food fixing gunshot wounds, and many other things, they are GAMEPLAY BENEFITS FOR THE PLAYERS CONVENIENCE, it wouldn't make sense for non-player characters like maximus to benefit, Caesar has 4 int in NV yet commands an army, Oliver swanick has 4 lck in NV yet wins the lottery, these stats are not assigned to characters so that they are a certain way, then also people have explained the dumb things in the show by saying "Oh it's wild wasteland" or "Oh Maximus has idiot savant" Like again these are gameplay features for the player to have more convenience or replayability, This would be like someone dying in the show and exploding like a nuke, and people could explain that away as the "Nuclear anomaly perk", I think whatever happens in the show, people will just say "Oh the series is wacky and has wild wasteland and easter eggs, so that excuses it," Fallout has become a joke in that regard, anything bethesda does will be excused by some people,
The shows defenders remined me off what Yuri Bezmenov said on Ideological Subversion: "to change the perception of every American to such an extent that despite the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions". They keep pretending the show is not subversion, they keep pretending its not lore breaking and they keep pretending its not cringe.
Yeah, the logic of the criticism doesn't follow. Maximus turning against his militarised society in the penultimate episode was rooted in individualism, not communism. Lucy quoting Jesus and applying the golden rule to a set piece to change the Ghoul's outlook was also anti-collective and hailed a traditional western value. The haters of this show appear to be hating on it because its early heroes were against communism but it doesn't take a stance on that political ideology - it's there to capture 50s paranoia. If anything, the show explodes individuality in grey ways, which is a good thing.@@tristenatorplaysgames6833
What lore was broken other than shady sands being moved way far away? What I see in this comment section are a bunch of children who just want to hate something and make up reasons for it.
It is. The whole vault Tec thing has been hinted at for decades in game and vault Tec is already greedy arses with a God complex to rival umbrella.Them starting the war isn't woke cause China was never stated to drop the first bomb, it's just answering an unanswered question
@@Gyrfalcon312lol how I liked the show, maybe a monsters showing up earlier yeah, but for what it was, a season one dip your toes into the water that was a good experience, it shows how whiny you are.
Agreed. Even if some people disagree on how the battle is portrayed. Stuff is like Michelin Star stuff. It ain't a 3 star one but it's STILL a damn tasty one.
"He is basicly finn from star wars" there has never been more accurate words spoken. I thought this the whole time. Not sure if you mention it cause im still at the start but the ghouls gun clearing holding 4 round yet he shots about 10 before reloading, really annoyed me haha
Strange that the people in Hollywood who opine that Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion be mandatory in every ounce of our media and entertainment seemingly treat all straight black men with this same trope. Over and over again. Its like they're scared of black men and do this as some sort of twisted humiliation ritual. Minorities please wake up to the fact that these ideologically compromised asshats are NOT on your side and never have been. You're no more than a stepping stone to more power and control and the way they treat characters like Finn, Maximus or Black Panther on a poster is proof positive of this.
It’s crazy that what is happening is what already happened ages ago with the Star Wars trilogy, people will go out of their way to act like something is good when it’s terrible…purely because they are attached to an IP. It’s actually insane how this keeps fucking happening.
they unfortunately turned it into the WORST one too if it was more like 2 or hell even 1 then that may actually result in something that's 100% enjoyable, but fucking NOPE.
The Open Bar where you, Gary, & Mauler got into it with Critical Drinker about this series was awesome! Nice to see people with opposing views instead of an Echo Chamber
Mr. House shot in the heart, Benny's brains sprawled out on a craps table, Caesar taken out with his own guard's power fist, and securitrons controlling the Hoover Dam. Nothing the Captain Marvel scREEnwriter makes could possibly come close
I mean, those are the only games (+new vegas) that are considered generally good. And none of them are made by Bethesda. So obviously they would want to destroy them
Just to add to this, the oil base was destroyed in 2241 and fallout 3 took place in 2277, that is a 36-year gap. The Enclave Does NOT recruit non-Enclave, they are without their main base and still weakened in Fallout 3. Black Isle did that, not Bethesda.
@@vicenlorenzocreadoraudiovi9726 fuck... how did he not know that 32 is gone? Either the 31 didn't know, which makes no sense or they didn't tell him, which makes no sense. But even if we get through that hurdle, he should have recognized her. That's of course leaving out that any and all geiger counters should have been going off.
@@TheL0ngbeard The show literally tells us that Moldaver and Hank never met one another before the war started. Moldaver only became aware of who Hank was after the mother had arrived at Shady Sands. Also Vault 32 was only inactive for 2 years by the time the show started. It's almost like if you pay attention to what's happening on screen then you'll be able to make sense of what's going on in the story.
@@reebonorton4175Hank and Maldover met in Shady Sands before he blew it up and took Lucy and Norm to the vault. He would have recognized her in the first episode.
We might have a witcher type situation, dood. People liked the first season well enough despite glaring mistakes and offences, but in season 2 the awful dial got cranked up so much that pretty much everyone finally realized they had been set up. Guess most doods are not learning animals.
I think you're right. I had heard of The Witcher games but hadn't played them. Only watched the show cuz Henry Cavill 😍. Made it thru season 2 and said nope, not gonna bother with the rest of it. I wanted to watch The Witcher, not two women I couldn't care less about girl bossing all over the place. Ciri was annoying and Yennifer was 3x worse. Didn't care about either of them, just Geralt and the bard's adventures.
It's funny because both shows relied on the traditional masculine male archetype character to hold interest in it. Witcher had Geralt, Fallout TV has ghoul cowboy
Theres a difference here , Netflix Witcher writer and show creator openly hate the game and the novels and wanted to create their own story they essentially piggy back the game success to build their own and I believe it's the same universe as it before the game. But Fallout showrunner they like the game and the showrunner and respected it rather than adapt the story or character from the game they made their own so it expand the world. Other than tht I agree with u and let's see if fallout showrunner is a liar or not.
Could’ve literally implemented a scene of the Scientist guy “hacking” a terminal to deactivate the turret but didn’t even try. Acting like the I in S.P.E.C.I.A.L. don’t exist. Acting like that’s not something you can do in-game plus lore. This show itself just seems like a Fallout Bethesda Title but worse.
In the games your able to do exactly what the scientist did. Idk why people get mad about video game logic in a show about what is a very video game video game. Stupid ridiculous outlandish stuff like that happens all the time in the fallout universe
@@RedHairedWarlordBasically if you are at a low level of character and without armor on. The miniguns kill you. You have a better chance with power armor on at higher levels. In fact if the scientist used stolen Enclave Power Armor to escape? Sure it would hit him and damage the power armor but he would survive and eject himself out of the power armor since it did its role in protecting him.
This is just a continuation of Bethesda's totally surface level writing. They simply are not creative enough to envision "post post apocalypse" only "post apocalypse". They retcon and destroy vegas and shady sands because those cities are a bastion of humanity developing back into a civilized society. They cannot allow NCR to survive, they must make Mr House an idiot and a full on villian instead of morally grey. This is fallout 4 writing but put into a show made for tourists.
i do agree with some points but house is totally a villain, he seems fair just because being fair facilitates being in power, if he has to anything to keep power he will do it, he tries to be smart about it because his body is a mummy so he cant even escape if someone assaults his tower, the courier can witness him in all his rotting glory, NCR was condemned to fail because of corruption, the legion would fail once caesar dies them their generals would fight between theirselves and none might have the capacity to unify and drive the legion like before, BoS are stuck in cycle of being limited by their own ideologies, search old tech but never recuperate any industrial capacity or political structure to become a real power, the enclave you need to play the first two games to get a picture of them, they are not so simple either and fallout 3 didnt do them justice, this all can play in the theory that humanity doesnt build itself again cause they are awfully mutaded, devoid of any knowledge and experience of the old world, the ghouls became either feral or embraced survivalism of the fittest, and the people theirselves can have their dna extremely degraded from inbreeding, radiation and exposure to biological weapons on the surface, not the mention being plagued by easy acess and nothing holding back drug abuse, be it either pre war drugs or new ones like jet, if house is alive in here i think hes the one who destroyed shady sands cause it was competition to his gambling drug empire, you need to remind how cities were in fallout 1 and 2, controlled by gangsters or police states and there were slavers everywhere rounding up tribals, so some spots of seemingly civilized trade hubs do happen, but everyonelse will them want to pillage it, wich is even the background for the hoover dam, where ncr battled BoS and BoS got crippled, them the legion came and new vegas was in the middle of it all, so id assume house dealt with the legion somehow and also dealt with the ncr, if anything hes not portrayed as stupid if it was him, but as a isolated trade hub that destroyed his larger rivals and in the spirit of new vegas game decisions.
The opinion of a person who didn't watch the show is as worthless as the opinion of someone who made up their mind about it before watching it. I can definitely tell you have not watched it. In other words, stop letting other people give you your opinion and start actually having one of your own. Go watch the show.
The amount of people I had to argue with about the lore was unreal. It manages to destroy Fallout 1, 2, and NV all at once. Gone, the decades of worldbuilding, set up, no mention of the "Fall" in universe. This show isn't canon. It lacks the good writing and impact necessary to call itself canon. West Coast will always be the better.
@@tdog4718 True. Though it's not so much as lost. It's that writers don't want to take the time to study other stories or learn proper writing techniques.
Had the same arguments with colleagues at work. They told me, oh it doesn't matter it wasn't super lore accurate, it was still good. Irony is, they both detest the Witcher series, because it isn't faithful to the lore. 🤦 I just can't with some muppets.
@@NeoVault_ Yeah it takes time that's for sure. I'm currently working on a FNV mod and ffs quality worldbuilding takes forever. At least if you want a detailed and logically made world.
@@FoxyFoxlyn What lore you're talking about with Witcher series? Because games were also not faithful to source material (books). It is kind of diminished your arguments, because it turned out that lore is not that important if the product is good. You can "change" the lore, it is not forbidden (Witcher games are great examples of this because they weren't faithful to source material -books - and fans still enjoyed). The Witcher series just got overboard with it is and failed, mostly because even writers admitted that they didn't like the source material. It wasn't because they didn't stick to the lore (games didn't and turned out to be great).
What benefit does Vault Tec and fellow corporations have for destroying the world and their way of life MUST BE the series biggest plot hole. It's stupid anyway you look at it, but gets even dummer when Vault Tec is previously established to "own half of everything"...Not selling vaults wasn´t even a critical jeopardy!! Jesus Christ, this shows gets more idiotic every minute you think about it
You still don’t know if it’s the capitalists fault. They might have wanted to do that but I have a feeling that World War III happened a little ahead of schedule because China attacked first day ahead of schedule.. or it could be the tactical glitch caused the attack to happen ahead of schedule one jumpy private with an itchy trigger finger..
Not even. Anyone who appreciates internal consistency will also hate this dumpster fire. I only played 3, NV, and 4, but I still can't stand this show even when pretending it isn't canon.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Oh, I've been playing Fallout for almost 30 years. I've played 1,2,3, New Vegas, and 4 and have ~1,000 hours. This show is extremely consistent with the lore and its awesome. Incels raging everywhere, all Fallout games hitting peak all time player count, the show is awesome. The only thing that could be better is if all the whining incels would just leave.
01:34 the worst part? he doesnt have super strength, to pull him down, the ghoul would have to weigh a tonne. The writers dont understand jnr school physics
@@Sumoniggro I am glad you mentioned Skyrim, people soyjack over that mediocre slop so hard. Even for its time it was just mediocre. It's worse now because we see now, via Starslop, that to this date that Bethesda has not improved their gameplay from their Skyrim days at all.
@@AQS521I am overly apologetic to Skyrim and Fallout 3 solely based on nostalgia, but after Fallout 4 I really saw through it all. Apparently a lot of other people didn’t though…
@@sugma3475 Skyrim and fallout 3 are fun but they are terribly written and are RPGs in name only. Bethesda hasn't made a real RPG since oblivion and haven't made a good RPG since Morrowind.
25:20 can we talk about the fact that we can see ruined buildings in the background of shady sands despite the fact that the city was built in the midle of the desert nowhere near any pre-war ruins ? like WTF did the showrunners accidentaly rectonned shady sands to be in the middle of the boneyard or what ?
I agreed with every single point you made. It's nice to know I wasn't insane for thinking this show was a subversive piece of cat shit but that there other who felt the same way.
This show is the perfect case example of what happens when the idiot in every comment section of a show or film saying: "X should be rated R!" is actually allowed to write said show or film, as if gore and sex is somehow going to make the writing of something better.
@@tristenatorplaysgames6833 "Get that jelly mold out of here!" Inserting jokes and random wacky dialogue in every scene without stop is what I considered Marvel humor. Any attempt of seriousness or genuine emotion die through the whole show. Is the same Disney Pattern like Marvel, Star Wars, Dr Who, Star Trek, etc.
@@sirpentious7963it's really not that bad, coming from someone who's played every game from 1 - 4, it captures the tone of the games very well (not counting the first game because of its bleakness) people are just complaining for the sake of complaining I feel, it dosent fuck with the lore, the writers confirmed that and new vegas is still canon, it's refreshing to see a videogame adaptation not bend the source material over and assfuck it.
@@Jumpingbadger913 No, it fucks with the lore on every front. Fallout 4 was already a massive bomb that shattered the lore. There's plenty of evidence in this video already of how much the show has further destroyed it. So all this talk about "it's refreshing to see a video game adaptation not bend the source material over"? Yeah, I don't think we watched the same show or played the same games.
@sirpentious7963 It's so shite. A videogame where the best parts are taming/killing and running away from dinosaurs, only has one fucking scene of a guy getting eaten by a dino. Everything else is low budget garbage cartoon animation for normies. Worst of all is that it's just BORING. I don't needa complain bout lore or any of that shit when I could barely watch more than 10 minutes without wanting to pull out my phone and start beating the rooster
The only White character will be Cavill (assuming he doesn't leave due to Amazon butchering the lore). Get ready to see all the super diverse space marines and girl boss Custodes. Another IP completely destroyed.
Fallout has always criticized capitalism. Since day 1. That's literally the fucking message of the games, lmao. Do you think that Mr. House was the good guy or something, bro?
It's worse because the games explicitly show you that there are far worse things in the world than corporations. Just at their villains. The Master: An abomination who wants to eliminate humanity to make way for his race to rule the world. The Enclave: A government that engages in genocide as an excuse to bring back the US. The Legion: Fucking slavers! Mr. House is literally the least worst option and they still make him responsible for bombing the world?
I'm avoiding it because the same people who made Westworld also made that Fallout show, so irrespective if it's good or not, the following seasons will be a bait and switch. The dialogue is also cringe.
It’s so good. Really fun. Used to watch my ex play Fallout for hours. Loved the world. I’ve watched this series 3 times all the way through. I think you might need some help if you don’t enjoy it.
My favourite part will always be Lucy telling Max he needs to give that vault their fusion core back but he doesn't want to because he wants to play with his armour. Then after he reluctantly does so she says she wants to date him. This guy was going to knowingly let a vault of overy nice people slowly die because he wanted to play with his toy and is instantly forgiven? Max is proven throughout the show to be a psycho/mental case but no one seems to care
Btw Reaper. The scene of the Airship pulling in for the first time exposes its name which is in fact the PRYDWEN. you can see the name on the plating specifically on the scene with the two boys smoking cigarettes. The writers said it's NOT the prydwen
Or at least be way brighter so that there’s glare everywhere, even if you don’t see it directly, the fact that it’s literally even more luminous than the Sun is on Earth means there will literally be bright glare all over. To this day perhaps the most convincing nuclear weapon scenes are The BBC made for TV movie Threads and the dream scene of Terminator 2
I remember reading about how the survivalist had to sadly mercy kill an elderly couple after going blind from looking at the nuclear explosions in Salt Lake City. Example of good writing vs Bethesda silliness.
funny how the boytoy in ep 1 was emitting more radiation than any body of water in the rest of the show or the GIANT NUKE HOLE when lucy was standing next to it
@@mooneyfinemineral Drinker got tricked by the new brand of subtle woke. Hollywood is adapting. They understand that people reject in-your-face woke, so they slowly change gears. They increase the overall quality of the characters, they make funnier jokes, they improve cinematography. So you get the Boys, the Across the Spider-Verse and Fallout. Same with videogames - Baldur Gate's 3 is an example. Audiences eat all of that up.
@@AndrewFrancisIlyrian This. Had been hanging on with him for quite a while, despite all of these absurd past takes. The Fallout verdict was a bridge too far for me - anyone that likes this show cannot be trusted, Fallout fan or not. It is that irredeemably bad.
@@Tom-sd9jb A lot of people enjoy the seriousness in terms of lore, that's what's fun for them, if only the show writers thought to please both audiences
It's weird how things like Star Wars Acolyte and Halo rightfully get shat on into oblivion, but Fallout for some reason gets a pass despite being a terrible show that bastardizes lore. Just consume product and don't ask questions, mmkay?
You know what I find extremely funny. The fact that they have a trans soldier in the BoS. >mfw they're discriminated against LGBTQ+ Relationships (shown with Christine and Veronica)
Yeah, The Brotherhood of Steel were a “lesser evil” compared to the Enclave and had a purpose for the story of the original Fallout with the wasteland. After Fallout 1 they had less purpose remaining as they originally were. Lesser evil isn’t necessarily heroic. In fact, it’s normal for factions in Fallout 1 & 2 to have a bad side, even if you allied with that faction.
Couldn't have said it better myself, but pointing out objectively bad writing makes me a hater. Well i am a hater a hater of consumerism and reddit/tumblr tier writing
The bar for quality is INSANELY low these days.. and it continues to go lower and lower.. It's honestly depressing. I think I'll just stick to old media, thank you very much.
Why do Normies always have super low standards for shows on their first season. All you need is a set piece and a bad plot hook and its "a good show" Even when its slop with a meaningless plot. Then season 2 comes out and they realize the writing was never good after the honey moon and people either just fall off or do a 180 and act like the show wasn't always mediocre
They're terminally online, and uneducated. They sit there on their phones while the show plays in the background, then call everyone a liar when they don't agree with them. If they're not children, holy crap. So damn sad.
It's a shame some people praise this show... "At least it's not as bad as (insert an even worse and woker show)" should NOT be a reason a show gets a good review.
My brother-in-law asked me if I had watched it yet. Because “it’s really good, and there’s so many easter eggs from the games.” He’s never even played the fucking games
@@noneyabizz8337 Everyone in this show who's slowly dying becomes retarded. Titus threatening Cuck-ximus, saying everything you need to say to ensure the other person NOT saving you. The fugitive scientist, taking the deadly pill BEFORE explaining Lucy the situation. It's not like he could've explained everything, making sure that Lucy in fact will do what he wants, and then killing himself. No. I guess we can't even have a scientist do a smart thing in this show
the jabs he got probably gave him mental damage which explains the bizarre and dumb cave adventure scene where he wanted to shoot something and got killed by a bear.
@@souljamane9244 It was a memberberry, stop coping. They never bring this up again. You would think it's a big deal. I wonder if they are going to remember this in season 2.
@@rageagaintstheNWO don't need to cope it's a callback I'm well aware of that the show probably isn't even game canon so don't take it that deep I swear everyone is just a contrarian nowadays with no media literacy
I actually thought about a logical explanation for that. My guess is maybe it's in robot's original programming to help people with missing limbs (Or fingers) first, and after he's done with that, the new program (made by organ harvesters) kicks in. But at this point I'm just thinking of excuses for this show's poor writing. it's pretty much Disney Star Wars all over again. Palpatine exploded at the end of episode 6 - "Somehow, palpatine returned", ship that had Chewbacca on board exploded - it was a different ship, Kylo's Tie fighter blew up - Kylo is completely unharmed, someone got stabbed with a lightsaber - they're fine after a couple of days in bed, Lucy's finger got cut off - kind robot welds a new one for no reason. It's this kind of hack writing where "Hurt/kill a character for shock value then revert that so viewer won't get sad their favourite hero died/became a cripple".
To think that even Critical drinker says it's good... Yes, it's fun "if you shut down your brain". But if you care even a tiny bit about Fallout's lore, this show is an absolute mess. Especially because bethesda claims this show is canon.
*The Halo Show.* That's how. And NETFLIX Witcher. Video Game Adaptations have been such shit, for so many years, that people are willing to give this 5/10 *_(AT MOST)_* high praise, because they're that fucking starved.
The interesting thing about shows like these and Picard is that I've noticed there seems to be a very distinct racial/gender-based hierarchy established according to the portrayals of the characters: - White women are usually portrayed as competent and morally good - Black men are usually portrayed as incompetent but morally good - Black women are usually portrayed as competent but morally evil - White men are usually portrayed as both incompetent and morally evil There are some exceptions to these rules due to casting but generally, according to proportion of the number of characters depicted in each manner, this is pretty accurate across the board for most television series produced after 2020.
I'm confident the storyline for this was written by an AI chatbot. It's not just stupid, it's a complete clusterfuck. Either that, or it was written as it was filmed, and they came up with twists episode-by-episode. There's no way one or more actual human beings wrote the entire season's story beforehand, looked it over, and said "yeah, that makes sense". The final result is screwed up in a way that doesn't make sense. It's not a couple errors or plot holes that can be overlooked; it's a total fiasco.
It gets a lot of praise but I believe that’s entirely due to the interesting setting and high production value. The writing of the characters is abysmal. Everyone is an insufferable moron.
Lots of the characters are naive due to there lack of exposure to the real world. I found Norm and Cooper to be very smart picking up on the sexrets around them pretty quick. Max and Lucy were also fairly smart they just needed time to adjust. Lucy represented charimatic intelligence and Max is more akin to the real world. I think it was revealed he had high endurance.
I honestly thought that the cast of characters were well rounded. Max could've had some plot holes fixed up but other than that, i found them quite charming. How would you of changed the story if you feel strongly this way?
@@12torooh my lord…just because specials exist in the game, doesn’t mean it’s going to work effectively in bloody television show! It’s ridiculous to take all the gamey aspects of something you’re trying to mimic, because they only exist for the sake of gameplay, not because they are apart of the world.
@@drcabbagefacecompletely change the stupid inclusion of vault tec being this super villain who started the war. Have Lucy just be her own character that was thrusted into the wasteland because of something happening with the vault (you could even have had raiders be the cause without the whole dumb connection thing). Fix the Brotherhood to look less like stereotypical military men. Have the NCR and Enclave be the main two factions that are at war, while the catalyst being the enclave carpet bombing shady sands. The ghoul is fine, but maybe change the whole dumb concept of ghoul invincibility, specifically with not getting hungry or thirsty. I could go on, but many of these writers are incredibly incompetent in making anything with nuance or maturity.
My brother asked me once we were done watching the show: Would you recommend it to a Fallout fan? Being a fallout fan myself (played 3, New Vegas and 4) I answered: If you're a fallout 3 fan, maybe, cuz the Brotherhood of Steel looks nothing to the one in 3, but the soundtrack will make you feel good. If you're a fallout 4 fan, then go ahead, because that seems to be the only game the writers know the story of. If you're a Fallout New Vegas fan, then fuck no as this show destroys everything you know about the game's story.
For the record, Shady Sands's "decline" is something made up by theory crafters to try and explain this retconning of an entire faction and game. All the mindless shills and consumers though use this as some sort of universal defence to instantly nullify whatever people who point this out say. Then they proceed to claim victory and plug their ears afterwards. The right answer to this copium filled retort is that nowhere in the games has it ever been implied that the NCR let alone Shady Sands was declining by 2277. Anything that tourists say afterwards only serve to expose how much they actually played the Fallout games. Or they sidestep into excuses and ad hominems.
It disturbs me that Fallout has gotten so many positive reviews. Do viewers nowadays just not know what good television is anymore? I can't believe Walton Goggins went from starring in masterful shows like The Shield and Justified to this dreck.
To be fair Walton is still LEAGUES above anything in this show and is the best part about it. Dude commanding every scene he's in. He honestly deserved a better show to be attached to.
bro, tell me what is wrong with the show. I've been scrolling for the past 10 minutes looking for actual criticism. all of it is either about... 1. Applying game logic to the show and how it makes no sense despite it being a show 2. Bla bla bla "woke" = bad even tho the show isnt even "woke" to begin with. 3. Bad character decisions (Maximus) which i honestly agree with. icl.
@@drcabbageface The lack of stakes/consequences, how often the tone & storytelling are undermined for cheap bits, how things change to suit the plot (as in the mech suit that could take down a cement building but couldn't stand up to a bear), and how easily characters stumble upon the exact person they need to meet to move the plot along in the middle of a wasteland.
Nah drinker wasn't completely wrong he just got enamered by walton goggins and ella purnell like 99% of the people who watched this show. he gave the writing a free pass because it had a good female protagonist and a badass male anithero in a time when those are nearly extinct. He ended up agreeing with Mauler about the writing only a week later. Still his review is accurate considering the majority of people will enjoy this show for the actors the same way he did unlike shows like Rings of Power or Halo
The Drinker is extremely scared of the attention he's getting from mainstream media and of getting canceled. He has been for months now. So his current modus operandi is to be completely soft and positive of at least some of the shows he would have BLASTED in the past, just to alternate negativity/positivity. It's completely obvious and disingenous, but hey i guess it helps him stay afloat.
@@olisk-jy9rz bro he went on british mainstream media to crap on disney stop schizoposting. He subjectively enjoyed the show because the show because of ella purnell and walton goggins simple as that. most people enjoyed fallout for that simple reason.
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but why is Frederick Sinclair portrayed as a fat old man? He looks like Gizmo from Fallout 1, when he should look like Mr. House
The show literally expressed in the flashbacks that they never met each other before the war. Moldaver only knew of Hank once Lucy's mom came to Shady Sands. If you actually had some media literacy and paid attention to the show you'll have known that.
@@reebonorton4175 Fair enough. But she also stated in the flashback that she engineered a technology which was offered to the several big companies back then what was refused because it wasn't profitable "enough". Be it as it may, maybe I'm wrong. In that case there are only 999 discrepancies left in the whole plot instead of 1000.
@@reebonorton4175all these guys saying the show sucks need everything info dumped on them in one episode. It’s probably from the lack luster story of New Vegas
What I find most impressive is that almost every single point cited in this video is something that was _not_ mentioned in both of synthetic man's videos; some of these (points from reaper's video) being devastating plot holes Which is to say, the show is even worse than what synthetic man's videos show, if you can believe that
Synthetic man has always been more of a gamer than a movie/tv show reviewer if we're being honest. He's better at shitting on horrible game design decisions and explaining why mechanics don't work rather than disecting the flaws of a stories script. Or looking for every subtle hint of DEI and sweet baby inc influence on a piece of media, even if he sounds a little schizo at times lmao.
Different people notice different things. I noticed the far-left political issues, that most reviewers didn't, or don't dare to mention, but many problems about the writing (even though I learned how to write) or the lore evaded my attention. Arch, Shad, Synth and others have good, but different points.
I'm genuinely annoyed at the *usual critics I look to* who said the show was good because that meant I had to watch it or be deluged with spoilers, as I am a Fallout person who consumes Fallout content. It's the first show I've binged since Breaking Bad. I never watch TV or films anymore. I get my entertainment from critics. I'm three episodes in and it's absolutely awful.
Before I tried watching it, I saw the “it gets big Iike a pimple” scene in a meme. I couldn’t believe it was an actual line from the show. I couldn’t get past episode two.
My guess is that he sees marriage as a thing between men and women, perhaps there is a religious belief system at play for Michael. Just a random guess.
@@12torohe's talking about the slippery slope that began with the LGBT community "just wanting to get married" but now we're at the point where you can't have any of them portrayed negatively in media and are often hailed as the heroes without earning it.
They know their audience, and they made this pile of shit tailored to them. They only care about profits, not how they are slowly kill the franchise. They are slowly removing the RPG in fallout, for lets make every one idiots instead, and its reflected in the TV show.
This is definitely Reaper’s best video so far. I really hope he does this doctor who fanfic that’s coming out. It’s the closest I’ll get to watching the thing.
Wdym, no one probably earned their armour in that battalion or at least Tidus lol like the brotherhood can be pretty cowardly , and the guy ran from a Yao gui something Maxicock took out in one shot that a guy in power armour could not, like if you wanna be Special kinda folk that’s fine just don’t sound so confident about it.
@@davepumphernickel9568 I think the point they were trying to make was that there was no character development or consequences for their actions. That, and things just happened to progress the plot, aka: bad writing.
Honestly it almost made sitting through 8 episodes of that garbage worth it. Definitely the best thing to come out of the show so far. Big thanks to reaper.
@@DoctorRevers Why would you watch all 8 episodes? Oh because you are full of crap and you will just say anything that you think the echo chamber wants to hear. People are such sheep
Saw a good quote by someone regarding NV. "Love that New Vegas was pointless. NCR gone, the Strip is abandoned, Mr. House was evil all along and the Courier might as well just stayed in that grave. All for nothing."
Knowing this series becomes "canon" really makes me wish I sided with Father Elijah in the Sierra Madre.
Yeah its not canon and I dont give a shit what showrunners who never played the games said.
1. Nerds create hobby that is fun and interesting. They establish rules that keep the hobby as good as it is.
2. More nerds join in and follow the rules. Hobby experiences its golden age.
3. Newcomer nerds advertise the hobby to their normie friends. Normies enjoy the hobby but don't care as much.
4. Demographics shift and there are more and more normies enjoying the hobby. They attract even more casual audience.
5. Casuals find the hobby fun but demand it to be dumbed down and rules to be relaxed so they can enjoy it.
6. Corporates take interest in the hobby and approach nerds. Corporates bribe nerds and take control of the hobby.
7. Corporates dumb down and deregulate the hobby to increase mass appeal. Normies and casuals outnumber nerds.
8. Hobby is no longer recognizable. Many nerds leave in disgust. The audience becomes more and more casual.
9. The creative spark of the hobby dies. It becomes corporate and sterile. Normies lose interest and leave.
10. Hobby slowly dies. Casuals leave because everyone else leaves.
11. Nerds look for ways to create something new.
12. Repeat.
It is truly a vicious cycle that has to be broken.
@@georgeray1906 It is not easy. I've seen examples of the communities that've zealously protected their hobby. They encounter another problem - lack of funds. Without some sort of fresh blood the original core of the community slowly erodes. Money also erodes. The original creators can't afford to keep the hobby going and it dies. There must be a balance and it is very hard to achieve.
Tim Cain likes it!!! Wtf are we doing here? (This is supposed to be sarcastic)
@@DoctorRevers Check Stage 6.
Its tragic how true this is.
We’ve been subjected to Hollywood slop for so long that when a shiny terd like this comes out people think its a truffle.
😂😂😂
In 200 years after the bombs fell nobody had an idea to clean or get things to work they just sit around like animals in their own piss and shit.This is Fallout 4 all over again.
The same is true with Fallout 3. The water is radioactive in Fallout 3 but the air isn’t except for toxic waste dumps and Megaton is 100 years old.
Bethesda's Fallouts seem to be beholden to the idea that Fallout must never advance beyond the level of survivalists living in bombed-out ruins, or else it's somehow not right.
Like in this video where the creator complains about green plants? Yes, 200+ years later there would be tons of green plants
@@thebk247 Oh yes, a lot of plants, and radioactivity would decline by a large amount after the nuclear weapons. Even in the Old Fallout games. Most of the land was tolerable and livable. There were exceptions such as the old bunker that was destroyed by a bunker busting nuke that you had to go inside, but most places outside the vaults were not setting off radiation detectors all the time. The worst in Fallout 4 was the Diner. I mean there was actual junk sitting outside the building that counted a belonging to Trudy as if she didn’t lock it up, but left it sitting in the dirt. Combined with dead bodies nearby and so on.
@@KaosNova2 yeah man because Chernobyl and Hiroshima are void of lush green plant life
Anytime someone says "Just turn your brain off." to enjoy a show that isn't entirely satirical or a full blown comedy or really doesn't even know what it's trying to be.....do not trust their tastes.
I can do it. Or rather I could do it till woke was multiplied by x4 times.
Now I cant stop myself from counting diversity hires, good wahmen bad man, oppression reminder etc.
I would like to not think, but how the heck am I supposed to do it when it is everywhere.
The only movie series that it's acceptable to turn your brain off too is Godzilla.
I really hate that. "Just be stupid to enjoy this" While the propaganda has simple access to your brain.
People who say that act like they've ever had their brains turned on in the first place.
I DID have my brain off the entire series, and STILL noticed so many flaws it was astounding people are defending it, and thats without even mentioning "lore"
I like how the biggest company in the world has the balls to criticize capitalism.
Wow… so brave!
Hey now, they aren't technically the biggest company, that's walmart, followed by saudi aramco. Amazon is only the third largest company /s
It’s not criticizing capitalism it’s kinda doing what the boys do where they criticize corporate power of mega corporations. Which appeals to socialists on the left and anti globalists on the right.
@@appropriate-channelname3049 The mega corporation presented is a delusional strawman whose goals make no logical sense, so it isn't doing a particularly good job of that. There are plenty of criticisms to be had of big corporations, presenting them as cartoonishly evil supervillains that seek to end the world isn't the way to raise them.
Capitalist realism moment, when corporations own everything including the media criticizing capitalism.
It’s similar to the way people who despise capitalism (or at least their distorted misrepresentation thereof) and they demonstrate their loathing of that caricature by buying Guy Fawkes masks from the world’s largest online seller, Amazon, with royalties going to the world’s fifth largest media and entertainment corporation, WBD.
Power Armor makes you strong enough to send someone flying with a single punch, but not enough to shake off a bunch of weaklings climbing on top of you? Fucking what LMAOOOO
What are you referring too?
@@RipVanWinkleJr 42:12 Use your eyes.
@@CrimsonUltrafox I didn't watch the whole video. Not my fault I didn't see it.
@@RipVanWinkleJrI didn't watch the entire video either. The show is far too bad for me to even make it 4 minutes into the video...
@@scaryjerryofmerrykerriemay2727 bruh
It was unbelievably rubbish. Bethesda simply seeks to eviscerate and resign to the dustbin all Fallout games that they had no hand in making.
The influx of fallout fans from the TV series is troubling for the future.
At the risk of blatantly stealing one of Drinker's favorite messages, this series seems like it was mainly created to convey THE MESSAGE™. Lots of evil white men; lots of "capitalism bad, communism good"; lots of POCs and women saving the day.
Story is not a requirement of pushing THE MESSAGE™. All that matters is having some glitzy IP you can attach it to so consumers eat it up.
@@monikasommerfelt7514have you dealt with any of the Tourists on the Nexus? It’s infuriating.
This is Fallout from the people who brought you Rings of Power.
What did anyone expect?
My friend was super-excited for this and he knows I'm a huge Fallout fan, and he's like "Todd Howard is a producer! The guy that created Fallout!" 🤦♂️
This show was rigged from the start.
Honestly, that's what makes the popular reception so strange; if Rings of Power, instead of trying (and failing) to tell a story that seems vaguely Tolkien-esque, was just a goofy action-comedy series, apparently half of the people who hated it for butchering lore, tone, theme, and failing basic writing rules, would have loved it. Because that's the only big difference I see; RoP attempted to feel like Lord of the Rings, like a fan-fiction, while Fallout didn't even try to feel like the games.
@PaladinHD apparently not much, given generally positive reception this show has, it just proves how easy it is to trick people into thinking that your pile os shit is much better than the other ones because you sprinkled some polish on it.
GARBAGE.
Bruh lmao @@insensitive919
The female screen writer did Captain Marvel is anymore needed to be said
sweet lord...
Except she is nowhere near the "girlboss" as Captain Marvel.
I’m sorry, but why are you here? It’s clearly a Fallout hate video and you decided to defend a Mary Sue character in the comments?
I refuse to believe normal real Americans are this stupid and bored. You must be from India and getting paid $.50 per comment from Amazon. Just like the CCP has a real and well documented 50 cent army.
@@paulbadman8509 Has nothing to do with girlboss that movie was just a poorly/mid written movie
@@anti-noobcrew2284 at least characters are written well.
A lot of the show fans are seemingly angry with this review. It’s funny they resort to petty insults instead of atleast attempting to defend the show.
I get major bot vibes from the defenders of the show, they use the same words and sentiments shuffled slightly.
@@His-Most-Catholic-Majestyit is bots, its been proven multiple times and they use bots in comment of yt, again.. proven by synthetic man, and we know amazon own imdb, and we know bethesda use ai bots on starfield reviews! There is no denying facts but they try over and over, defending slop designed to rot your brain and keep you numb and subservient. Literal vault dwellers oblivious to their experimental control..
@@His-Most-Catholic-Majesty fr they keep mentioning gate keeping.
@saloenjoyer3266 The accusations that he didn't play the game are weird too. There's also a load of ince! comments and reddit-isms talking about Ls.
@@His-Most-Catholic-Majesty it’s funny too because he has played the games, he even references the games directly in a video with critical drinker and Mauler.
The people who made the show forgot to check their calendars, and clocks, unless you want to believe people are throwing massive children's birthday parties with dozens of guests and celebrity appearances at 6Am. Because they forgot what time the bombs dropped.
At least Fallout 3 and 4 had the clocks stopped between 9:45 am and 9:50am EST. Even Fallout 4 feels slightly off considering Nathan and Nora were eating breakfast when it’s almost 10:00am? Really?
If Nate and Nora just had breakfast on the east coast it would likely still be dark in California, barely the crack of dawn. Surely that’s peak time for kids birthday bash complete with cake, afternoon weather reports and mid day cartoons 😑
@@KaosNova2 It is almost like the fallout series has some major lore issues... and a bunch of people are pretending that it doesn't. Then they pretend that the show has major lore issues but when they critique the show it is all "THE CHARACTERS ARE DUMB BECAUSE I HAVE 20/20 HINDSIGHT" which you can do to anybody or any story or sport or pretty much anything. Criticizing actions in the past is super easy.
@@KaosNova2What's wrong with having breakfast at 10am? 😂 I do it all the time
@@thomgizzizthe original games don't have that problem. And critising something after you've seen it is the only way to do that, plus if it wasn't shit people wouldn't have anything to criticise. Boob.
"He does everything wrong and keeps getting rewarded" Reminds me of Deee EEE I
Crystal generation pandering right there
@@arturovandeley Isn't that a thing in fallout tho, the high luck stat? Like in the universe of the games it's a thing you can scientifically improve somehow
@@thunderspark1536 May very well be, but tv show is a different format of storytelling. Its worst than being lucky. Maximus gets rewarded and rises in a military organization which absolutely should not allow him to do so. He wants a "brother" to be harmed. He lies. He allright betrays the Brotherhood and he is promoted to top brass! Wtf
@@thunderspark1536 You were never excused or pardoned for terrible things you've done just for having a maxed out luck stat in any of the Fallout games. That's not what the stat is supposed to do, it's largely meant for calculating how much critical hit chance and damage your character's attacks will have. The only few times it was ever used in dialogue checks was for the player character guessing something incredibly specific, like the "ice cream" password on a robot's security check.
@@superplayerex2431 Exactly, I see people using special stats as a cope to explain maximus lucking out, the special stats only really benefit the player character, it's a gameplay mechanic, same with stimpaks and food fixing gunshot wounds, and many other things, they are GAMEPLAY BENEFITS FOR THE PLAYERS CONVENIENCE, it wouldn't make sense for non-player characters like maximus to benefit, Caesar has 4 int in NV yet commands an army, Oliver swanick has 4 lck in NV yet wins the lottery, these stats are not assigned to characters so that they are a certain way, then also people have explained the dumb things in the show by saying "Oh it's wild wasteland" or "Oh Maximus has idiot savant" Like again these are gameplay features for the player to have more convenience or replayability, This would be like someone dying in the show and exploding like a nuke, and people could explain that away as the "Nuclear anomaly perk", I think whatever happens in the show, people will just say "Oh the series is wacky and has wild wasteland and easter eggs, so that excuses it," Fallout has become a joke in that regard, anything bethesda does will be excused by some people,
The shows defenders remined me off what Yuri Bezmenov said on Ideological Subversion: "to change the perception of every American to such an extent that despite the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions".
They keep pretending the show is not subversion, they keep pretending its not lore breaking and they keep pretending its not cringe.
Keep speaking truth 🤙
I love people say x is lore breaking or x is woke and x is subversive with no examples
Yeah, the logic of the criticism doesn't follow. Maximus turning against his militarised society in the penultimate episode was rooted in individualism, not communism. Lucy quoting Jesus and applying the golden rule to a set piece to change the Ghoul's outlook was also anti-collective and hailed a traditional western value. The haters of this show appear to be hating on it because its early heroes were against communism but it doesn't take a stance on that political ideology - it's there to capture 50s paranoia. If anything, the show explodes individuality in grey ways, which is a good thing.@@tristenatorplaysgames6833
What lore was broken other than shady sands being moved way far away? What I see in this comment section are a bunch of children who just want to hate something and make up reasons for it.
@@mrdrprofdaddy Cope harder tourist.
Imagine going through all that to end the world for a bigger profit only for everyone to use bottle caps as money
At this point I am convinced some writers over there are *actual* retards. Nobody with a functional brain would come up with that dumb of a plotpoint.
Quite silly too since the NCR has it's own currency, caps as a currency only work in states that are close to the remains of nuka cola buildings lol
This is the show that people say is "the good one"
It's enjoyable enough
Facts
normies enjoy it, they only played fallout 4 after all
It is. The whole vault Tec thing has been hinted at for decades in game and vault Tec is already greedy arses with a God complex to rival umbrella.Them starting the war isn't woke cause China was never stated to drop the first bomb, it's just answering an unanswered question
im still baffled by that guy being fat. there is literally nobody overweight in the wasteland.
Zach was right about the show only memberberries "remember this"
Hell of a thing _shaking my head_ . The show could have been so much better
@@Gyrfalcon312lol how I liked the show, maybe a monsters showing up earlier yeah, but for what it was, a season one dip your toes into the water that was a good experience, it shows how whiny you are.
Only in this case, people who actually remember are mostly pissed off. And rightly so.
Yes, but I don't think they realize how badly remembering things fucks with this show.
How are you going to make a Fallout show without using iconic items from the Fallout series? You people mental gymnastics are astonishing
Because Bethesda… Bethesda never changes ☢️
Operation sunburst by sodaz is the actual fallout show.
That shit is amazing!
Agreed. Even if some people disagree on how the battle is portrayed. Stuff is like Michelin Star stuff. It ain't a 3 star one but it's STILL a damn tasty one.
Saw that and it was quite spectacular. Waiting for the next episode to come out.
yes
Agreed.
This is just a preview, Reaper is preparing for Velma season 2
An appetizer to say
the rule 34 xtra THICC version ?
"He is basicly finn from star wars" there has never been more accurate words spoken. I thought this the whole time. Not sure if you mention it cause im still at the start but the ghouls gun clearing holding 4 round yet he shots about 10 before reloading, really annoyed me haha
I have never agreed with one of your reviews more,haha. Solid attention to the lack of detail and how conrived it all was
Strange that the people in Hollywood who opine that Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion be mandatory in every ounce of our media and entertainment seemingly treat all straight black men with this same trope. Over and over again. Its like they're scared of black men and do this as some sort of twisted humiliation ritual. Minorities please wake up to the fact that these ideologically compromised asshats are NOT on your side and never have been. You're no more than a stepping stone to more power and control and the way they treat characters like Finn, Maximus or Black Panther on a poster is proof positive of this.
It’s crazy that what is happening is what already happened ages ago with the Star Wars trilogy, people will go out of their way to act like something is good when it’s terrible…purely because they are attached to an IP.
It’s actually insane how this keeps fucking happening.
Zoomer, you’re new to all this and your generation thinks everything started with you.
@@lingricen8077 ok grandpa, let’s get you back to bed.
@@sooz6092 Woah, why so touchy? Dayum, I knew you zoomers were fragile but wow, go touch grass
@@lingricen8077 what
@@sooz6092 btw which trilogy are you referring to. Interestingly, many people only started hating the prequels because of RedLetterMedia
They turned Fallout into Borderlands. That's about the best way to some up this show.
🤢
Into Borderlands 3 to be precise.
@@coltonwilkie241agreed
they unfortunately turned it into the WORST one too
if it was more like 2 or hell even 1 then that may actually result in something that's 100% enjoyable, but fucking NOPE.
Honestly when I played Mad Max from 2015, that felt like more of a Fallout game than Fallout 4 or whatever Fallout 76 would turn out to be.
The Open Bar where you, Gary, & Mauler got into it with Critical Drinker about this series was awesome!
Nice to see people with opposing views instead of an Echo Chamber
Which one was that?Im trying to find it and cant
@@user-pv8pw7ho9uVideo title is
“Drinkers Chasers-The Great Fallout Debate”
That's the great thing, our side can disagree without having a meltdown.
@@user-pv8pw7ho9u Episode 91
Well looking at the comments seem that what alot of pf people wanted was an echo chamber
A friendly reminder that your Courier Six, whoever they may be, is canon, and whatever ending they choose for the Mojave, is canon.
Mr. House shot in the heart, Benny's brains sprawled out on a craps table, Caesar taken out with his own guard's power fist, and securitrons controlling the Hoover Dam. Nothing the Captain Marvel scREEnwriter makes could possibly come close
this show was Ai generated. not the art assets, the direction.
Video editing software now as AI for writing the script. I believe you
The dialogue is unbelievable... literal borderlands-tier
This is worse than Borderlands!
This is Borderlands 3 levels of shit.
Bad borderlands
That's what I said too. The whole show is Fallout: Borderlands edition
@nohandlefound.Reddit tier humor
@@80krauser It's not like the story of the first two games was mind-blowing, either
"It makes Fallout 1 and 2 meaningless."
Bethesda did THAT when they wiped out THE ENTIRETY of the Enclave like it was NOTHING in the Broken Steele DLC
Bethesda recons every game
New vegas kinda brings them back cause ED-E is from the Chicago base but nothing more happened with them
@@almalone3282 Except for the Enclave Remnants who BRIEFLY help during the Battle of Hoover Dam.
I mean, those are the only games (+new vegas) that are considered generally good. And none of them are made by Bethesda. So obviously they would want to destroy them
Just to add to this, the oil base was destroyed in 2241 and fallout 3 took place in 2277, that is a 36-year gap.
The Enclave Does NOT recruit non-Enclave, they are without their main base and still weakened in Fallout 3.
Black Isle did that, not Bethesda.
Not even the modding community can fix all these bugs...
Why did the father let the diverse lesbian girl boss in the vault if he already had known who she was?
Holy shit you are right.
@@vicenlorenzocreadoraudiovi9726 fuck... how did he not know that 32 is gone? Either the 31 didn't know, which makes no sense or they didn't tell him, which makes no sense. But even if we get through that hurdle, he should have recognized her. That's of course leaving out that any and all geiger counters should have been going off.
They never met before, but have heard about eachother by reputation. The show is actually pretty clear about this......
@@TheL0ngbeard The show literally tells us that Moldaver and Hank never met one another before the war started. Moldaver only became aware of who Hank was after the mother had arrived at Shady Sands. Also Vault 32 was only inactive for 2 years by the time the show started. It's almost like if you pay attention to what's happening on screen then you'll be able to make sense of what's going on in the story.
@@reebonorton4175Hank and Maldover met in Shady Sands before he blew it up and took Lucy and Norm to the vault.
He would have recognized her in the first episode.
We might have a witcher type situation, dood.
People liked the first season well enough despite glaring mistakes and offences, but in season 2 the awful dial got cranked up so much that pretty much everyone finally realized they had been set up.
Guess most doods are not learning animals.
I think you're right.
I had heard of The Witcher games but hadn't played them. Only watched the show cuz Henry Cavill 😍. Made it thru season 2 and said nope, not gonna bother with the rest of it. I wanted to watch The Witcher, not two women I couldn't care less about girl bossing all over the place. Ciri was annoying and Yennifer was 3x worse. Didn't care about either of them, just Geralt and the bard's adventures.
It's funny because both shows relied on the traditional masculine male archetype character to hold interest in it. Witcher had Geralt, Fallout TV has ghoul cowboy
Theres a difference here , Netflix Witcher writer and show creator openly hate the game and the novels and wanted to create their own story they essentially piggy back the game success to build their own and I believe it's the same universe as it before the game. But Fallout showrunner they like the game and the showrunner and respected it rather than adapt the story or character from the game they made their own so it expand the world. Other than tht I agree with u and let's see if fallout showrunner is a liar or not.
sure but standards have gone down so they will eat it up next season for not being as bad as the rest of the garbage shows.
It is written by the same idiots who made West World so this checks out
That sentry gun moment would have made me smash my head into a wall had I gotten into this series. Thanks for saving my health, time and money.
They really are that inaccurate in the games
@@ssilent8202I don’t think that’s completely accurate, they usually hit the player but the player has tons of health
Could’ve literally implemented a scene of the Scientist guy “hacking” a terminal to deactivate the turret but didn’t even try. Acting like the I in S.P.E.C.I.A.L. don’t exist. Acting like that’s not something you can do in-game plus lore. This show itself just seems like a Fallout Bethesda Title but worse.
In the games your able to do exactly what the scientist did. Idk why people get mad about video game logic in a show about what is a very video game video game. Stupid ridiculous outlandish stuff like that happens all the time in the fallout universe
@@RedHairedWarlordBasically if you are at a low level of character and without armor on. The miniguns kill you. You have a better chance with power armor on at higher levels. In fact if the scientist used stolen Enclave Power Armor to escape? Sure it would hit him and damage the power armor but he would survive and eject himself out of the power armor since it did its role in protecting him.
So, it's basically Idiocracy with Fallout paint job!
Idiocracy at least had a theme.
@@piotrd7355 That true.
@@piotrd7355 The theme here is capitalism bad, communism good.
@@tomigun5180that flavor of communism. Soviet communism and maoist communism were different from each other
More like borderlands
Such painful storytelling, voice acting and writing
This is just a continuation of Bethesda's totally surface level writing. They simply are not creative enough to envision "post post apocalypse" only "post apocalypse". They retcon and destroy vegas and shady sands because those cities are a bastion of humanity developing back into a civilized society. They cannot allow NCR to survive, they must make Mr House an idiot and a full on villian instead of morally grey. This is fallout 4 writing but put into a show made for tourists.
i do agree with some points but house is totally a villain, he seems fair just because being fair facilitates being in power, if he has to anything to keep power he will do it, he tries to be smart about it because his body is a mummy so he cant even escape if someone assaults his tower, the courier can witness him in all his rotting glory, NCR was condemned to fail because of corruption, the legion would fail once caesar dies them their generals would fight between theirselves and none might have the capacity to unify and drive the legion like before, BoS are stuck in cycle of being limited by their own ideologies, search old tech but never recuperate any industrial capacity or political structure to become a real power, the enclave you need to play the first two games to get a picture of them, they are not so simple either and fallout 3 didnt do them justice, this all can play in the theory that humanity doesnt build itself again cause they are awfully mutaded, devoid of any knowledge and experience of the old world, the ghouls became either feral or embraced survivalism of the fittest, and the people theirselves can have their dna extremely degraded from inbreeding, radiation and exposure to biological weapons on the surface, not the mention being plagued by easy acess and nothing holding back drug abuse, be it either pre war drugs or new ones like jet, if house is alive in here i think hes the one who destroyed shady sands cause it was competition to his gambling drug empire, you need to remind how cities were in fallout 1 and 2, controlled by gangsters or police states and there were slavers everywhere rounding up tribals, so some spots of seemingly civilized trade hubs do happen, but everyonelse will them want to pillage it, wich is even the background for the hoover dam, where ncr battled BoS and BoS got crippled, them the legion came and new vegas was in the middle of it all, so id assume house dealt with the legion somehow and also dealt with the ncr, if anything hes not portrayed as stupid if it was him, but as a isolated trade hub that destroyed his larger rivals and in the spirit of new vegas game decisions.
The opinion of a person who didn't watch the show is as worthless as the opinion of someone who made up their mind about it before watching it. I can definitely tell you have not watched it. In other words, stop letting other people give you your opinion and start actually having one of your own. Go watch the show.
Fallout 3 > New Vegas
@@adamk.7177 you rebutted nothing.
@@thebk247 fallout 1 and 2>>>>>>>>>> fallout 3 >>>>>>>>a smelly turd>>>>>>>>fallout 4
The amount of people I had to argue with about the lore was unreal.
It manages to destroy Fallout 1, 2, and NV all at once.
Gone, the decades of worldbuilding, set up, no mention of the "Fall" in universe.
This show isn't canon. It lacks the good writing and impact necessary to call itself canon. West Coast will always be the better.
Worldbuilding is a lost art.
@@tdog4718 True. Though it's not so much as lost. It's that writers don't want to take the time to study other stories or learn proper writing techniques.
Had the same arguments with colleagues at work. They told me, oh it doesn't matter it wasn't super lore accurate, it was still good. Irony is, they both detest the Witcher series, because it isn't faithful to the lore. 🤦
I just can't with some muppets.
@@NeoVault_ Yeah it takes time that's for sure. I'm currently working on a FNV mod and ffs quality worldbuilding takes forever. At least if you want a detailed and logically made world.
@@FoxyFoxlyn What lore you're talking about with Witcher series? Because games were also not faithful to source material (books). It is kind of diminished your arguments, because it turned out that lore is not that important if the product is good. You can "change" the lore, it is not forbidden (Witcher games are great examples of this because they weren't faithful to source material -books - and fans still enjoyed). The Witcher series just got overboard with it is and failed, mostly because even writers admitted that they didn't like the source material. It wasn't because they didn't stick to the lore (games didn't and turned out to be great).
Love how they made the nukes the capitalists fault
They certainly wouldn’t use the original idea of China being the reason for nuclear war due to potentially angering the real life counter part…
That was the plan of the fallout movie from the 90s dont know what you are on about
@@Masaryk28.10.the one that was never made and frankly sounded god awful?lmao what's your point
What benefit does Vault Tec and fellow corporations have for destroying the world and their way of life MUST BE the series biggest plot hole. It's stupid anyway you look at it, but gets even dummer when Vault Tec is previously established to "own half of everything"...Not selling vaults wasn´t even a critical jeopardy!! Jesus Christ, this shows gets more idiotic every minute you think about it
You still don’t know if it’s the capitalists fault. They might have wanted to do that but I have a feeling that World War III happened a little ahead of schedule because China attacked first day ahead of schedule.. or it could be the tactical glitch caused the attack to happen ahead of schedule one jumpy private with an itchy trigger finger..
I'm not going to even pretend this is canon fr
It was a Fallout show for people that were never into Fallout.
yeah lol, like fallout is some niche community only the cool guys are allowed to enjoy it.
Nah, anyone with standards would find this show horrible, even with 0 knowledge about the game...
Not even. Anyone who appreciates internal consistency will also hate this dumpster fire. I only played 3, NV, and 4, but I still can't stand this show even when pretending it isn't canon.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Oh, I've been playing Fallout for almost 30 years. I've played 1,2,3, New Vegas, and 4 and have ~1,000 hours. This show is extremely consistent with the lore and its awesome. Incels raging everywhere, all Fallout games hitting peak all time player count, the show is awesome. The only thing that could be better is if all the whining incels would just leave.
@@swissarmyknight4306 Good morning, shill-kun!
01:34 the worst part? he doesnt have super strength, to pull him down, the ghoul would have to weigh a tonne.
The writers dont understand jnr school physics
From Johsua Graham's monologue to this. What a huge downgrade.
to any moment in NV, to this shit
Have you not played Skyrim or fallout 4? How are you surprised that this show is terrible, it's in line with Bethesda's writing.
@@Sumoniggro I am glad you mentioned Skyrim, people soyjack over that mediocre slop so hard. Even for its time it was just mediocre. It's worse now because we see now, via Starslop, that to this date that Bethesda has not improved their gameplay from their Skyrim days at all.
@@AQS521I am overly apologetic to Skyrim and Fallout 3 solely based on nostalgia, but after Fallout 4 I really saw through it all. Apparently a lot of other people didn’t though…
@@sugma3475 Skyrim and fallout 3 are fun but they are terribly written and are RPGs in name only. Bethesda hasn't made a real RPG since oblivion and haven't made a good RPG since Morrowind.
I was so happy when i saw fallout was released, then it took 45seconds for me to call the suicide help line
I guess you didn't finish
The helpline helped.
Do you think helplines are for killing yourself? Lol
Should have tried the poison control center to request detox advice.
@@the_neo_crusader Nope, operator talked me out of the other arm
25:20
can we talk about the fact that we can see ruined buildings in the background of shady sands despite the fact that the city was built in the midle of the desert nowhere near any pre-war ruins ?
like WTF did the showrunners accidentaly rectonned shady sands to be in the middle of the boneyard or what ?
Yes they did. Shady Sands was supposed to be Bakersfield, IIRC
I agreed with every single point you made. It's nice to know I wasn't insane for thinking this show was a subversive piece of cat shit but that there other who felt the same way.
Thank you Reaper for standing your ground. Is so easy to accept the Marvel humor and wacky gore in your face as "good" now days.
This show is the perfect case example of what happens when the idiot in every comment section of a show or film saying: "X should be rated R!" is actually allowed to write said show or film, as if gore and sex is somehow going to make the writing of something better.
Marvel humor? Where?
@@tristenatorplaysgames6833 "Get that jelly mold out of here!" Inserting jokes and random wacky dialogue in every scene without stop is what I considered Marvel humor. Any attempt of seriousness or genuine emotion die through the whole show. Is the same Disney Pattern like Marvel, Star Wars, Dr Who, Star Trek, etc.
@@tristenatorplaysgames6833 you deaf?
@@tristenatorplaysgames6833 0:41
If you think a video game lore was bastardized, wait until you see Ark my friend
I didn't watch it yet, is it really that bad?
@@sirpentious7963it's really not that bad, coming from someone who's played every game from 1 - 4, it captures the tone of the games very well (not counting the first game because of its bleakness) people are just complaining for the sake of complaining I feel, it dosent fuck with the lore, the writers confirmed that and new vegas is still canon, it's refreshing to see a videogame adaptation not bend the source material over and assfuck it.
@@Jumpingbadger913 No, it fucks with the lore on every front. Fallout 4 was already a massive bomb that shattered the lore. There's plenty of evidence in this video already of how much the show has further destroyed it.
So all this talk about "it's refreshing to see a video game adaptation not bend the source material over"? Yeah, I don't think we watched the same show or played the same games.
@sirpentious7963 It's so shite. A videogame where the best parts are taming/killing and running away from dinosaurs, only has one fucking scene of a guy getting eaten by a dino. Everything else is low budget garbage cartoon animation for normies. Worst of all is that it's just BORING. I don't needa complain bout lore or any of that shit when I could barely watch more than 10 minutes without wanting to pull out my phone and start beating the rooster
@@Jumpingbadger913
>brotherhood of steel flying an american flag and using ranks like petty officer
>it doesn't fuck with the lore
okay
I can already picture the Warhammer 40k series beign done like this : some references put there for baits and the betrayal of the IP's core...
I for one cannot wait for the black trans God Emperor.
The only White character will be Cavill (assuming he doesn't leave due to Amazon butchering the lore). Get ready to see all the super diverse space marines and girl boss Custodes. Another IP completely destroyed.
Ghouls can be one shotted in every fallout game, the show runners haven't played a single fallout game.
Shotted isn't a word, but yeah. The lead actress definitely didn't play either. Idk why she's lying.
@@jakemealer9545 It's a 'How do you do fellow kids' moment.
The vualt tec woman saying war never changes as a reason to nuke the world means that this show is saying "war is bad, but capitalism is worse"
The only way you can make communism anything near appealing is if you portray capitalism as moustache twirling caricatures.
.....
Fallout has always criticized capitalism. Since day 1. That's literally the fucking message of the games, lmao. Do you think that Mr. House was the good guy or something, bro?
It's worse because the games explicitly show you that there are far worse things in the world than corporations. Just at their villains.
The Master: An abomination who wants to eliminate humanity to make way for his race to rule the world.
The Enclave: A government that engages in genocide as an excuse to bring back the US.
The Legion: Fucking slavers!
Mr. House is literally the least worst option and they still make him responsible for bombing the world?
@@alexeistrife56 mr house is the good guy
I'm avoiding it because the same people who made Westworld also made that Fallout show, so irrespective if it's good or not, the following seasons will be a bait and switch. The dialogue is also cringe.
and cpatain marvel writers.
It’s so good.
Really fun.
Used to watch my ex play Fallout for hours. Loved the world.
I’ve watched this series 3 times all the way through.
I think you might need some help if you don’t enjoy it.
@@benevolentconcepts which fallout he played?
@@benevolentconcepts So not a fan then, just saw maybe 1-2 hours of atmosphere. Opinion is not faithful. Pretty sure you're just a retard.
@@arkgaharandan5881 The woman is a 'healing crystal' nut job.
so Lucy's father knew who Maldaver was, but still did not recognize her in episode 1 when they opened vault 32?
My favourite part will always be Lucy telling Max he needs to give that vault their fusion core back but he doesn't want to because he wants to play with his armour. Then after he reluctantly does so she says she wants to date him. This guy was going to knowingly let a vault of overy nice people slowly die because he wanted to play with his toy and is instantly forgiven? Max is proven throughout the show to be a psycho/mental case but no one seems to care
Btw Reaper. The scene of the Airship pulling in for the first time exposes its name which is in fact the PRYDWEN. you can see the name on the plating specifically on the scene with the two boys smoking cigarettes. The writers said it's NOT the prydwen
wait for more lore for fuck sake
@@s.p.a.c.e.c. the showrunners said its the Caswennon. The lore is fucked
@@shogunpug4071 yeah there can be reasons to that, i mean caswennon was somehow related to the ship prydwen in the original arthurian story
@@shogunpug4071 just don't talk about these details too soon
@@s.p.a.c.e.c. oh brother. Reachers gonna reach
5:03 forgot to mention the fact that looking at a nuclear bomb detonating should result in the person instantly going blind
Or at least be way brighter so that there’s glare everywhere, even if you don’t see it directly, the fact that it’s literally even more luminous than the Sun is on Earth means there will literally be bright glare all over. To this day perhaps the most convincing nuclear weapon scenes are The BBC made for TV movie Threads and the dream scene of Terminator 2
That is my favorite scene in T2.
I remember reading about how the survivalist had to sadly mercy kill an elderly couple after going blind from looking at the nuclear explosions in Salt Lake City. Example of good writing vs Bethesda silliness.
Radiation works different in Fallout universe.
In fallout 4 you dont go blind after looking at nukes exploding
funny how the boytoy in ep 1 was emitting more radiation than any body of water in the rest of the show or the GIANT NUKE HOLE when lucy was standing next to it
Finally someone who lays it all out
Thanks for finishing this for me, Reaper - I couldn't choke it down.
I couldn’t get thru the first 10 mins, just see Furiosa instead.
I dont like how they turned fallout into borderlands and ruined all the lore.
It wouldn't even be in the upper half of Borderlands properties in terms of quality.
The only game since the OG trilogy that’s actually canon is New Vegas, there you go, everything solved.
It's like when people praised the Mandalorian because everything else Star Wars was so dogshit it gave people aneurisms.
Rogue One: Am I a joke to you?
If the drinker failed us. The reaper will satisfy.
Everybody gets one bad take 😂.
@@mooneyfinemineralhe has many bad ones. Arcane, Peacemaker, Last of Us, Blue Eye Samurai...
@@mooneyfinemineral Drinker got tricked by the new brand of subtle woke. Hollywood is adapting. They understand that people reject in-your-face woke, so they slowly change gears. They increase the overall quality of the characters, they make funnier jokes, they improve cinematography. So you get the Boys, the Across the Spider-Verse and Fallout. Same with videogames - Baldur Gate's 3 is an example. Audiences eat all of that up.
@@AndrewFrancisIlyrian This. Had been hanging on with him for quite a while, despite all of these absurd past takes. The Fallout verdict was a bridge too far for me - anyone that likes this show cannot be trusted, Fallout fan or not.
It is that irredeemably bad.
THANK YOU!!! FINALLY!! Even Critical Drinker and other Ytubers I respect were praising this shit. Good on you Reaper for calling it as it is.
Seeing people shill for THIS series made me genuinely depressed. Glad to see some people noticed the flaws though.
You dont like It, thats totally fine,dont expect all people to Feel the same way
It is highly flawed but it is silly and fun. We don't have to be super serious all the time.
It may be silly but it sure as shit ain’t fun.
@@Tom-sd9jb A lot of people enjoy the seriousness in terms of lore, that's what's fun for them, if only the show writers thought to please both audiences
@@gooberaureliusmaximusiii6638someone will always complain about everything you cant please everyone
It's weird how things like Star Wars Acolyte and Halo rightfully get shat on into oblivion, but Fallout for some reason gets a pass despite being a terrible show that bastardizes lore.
Just consume product and don't ask questions, mmkay?
It has things from the Fallout videogames therefore it's a good show
You know what I find extremely funny.
The fact that they have a trans soldier in the BoS.
>mfw they're discriminated against LGBTQ+ Relationships (shown with Christine and Veronica)
Yeah, The Brotherhood of Steel were a “lesser evil” compared to the Enclave and had a purpose for the story of the original Fallout with the wasteland. After Fallout 1 they had less purpose remaining as they originally were. Lesser evil isn’t necessarily heroic. In fact, it’s normal for factions in Fallout 1 & 2 to have a bad side, even if you allied with that faction.
Zero lghdtvbbqs would exist in this world.
@@WiseOwl_1408 Same Sex Attraction is a real thing that happens and you don't have some conscious choice about developing same sex attraction.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes that shit wouldn't mean anything in a post apocalyptic wasteland
@@TH-camCO713 The attraction would still happen. But how to handle it would be something different.
Couldn't have said it better myself, but pointing out objectively bad writing makes me a hater. Well i am a hater a hater of consumerism and reddit/tumblr tier writing
New Vegas has objectively bad writing
@@thebk247nice ragebait.
@@thebk247bait used to be believable
@@thebk247for example?
@@mysampleid the Courier surviving the opening cut scene
First Creetosis, now Reaper. This is incredible.
Synthetic Man & Arch cast too.
@@FoxyFoxlynbased synthcel
Cant believe critical drink actually praised this shit.
@@shadow_ninja9149 maybe hes sick of fucking hating everything to push a grift.
Splendid even,in a sea full of normies and cons00mers there still are people with critical sense.
FINALLY. Thank you! I thought I was going nuts hearing people say how great this show is. I watched it and was like…yep. What a pile of shit
The bar for quality is INSANELY low these days.. and it continues to go lower and lower.. It's honestly depressing. I think I'll just stick to old media, thank you very much.
Why do Normies always have super low standards for shows on their first season. All you need is a set piece and a bad plot hook and its "a good show" Even when its slop with a meaningless plot. Then season 2 comes out and they realize the writing was never good after the honey moon and people either just fall off or do a 180 and act like the show wasn't always mediocre
They're terminally online, and uneducated. They sit there on their phones while the show plays in the background, then call everyone a liar when they don't agree with them. If they're not children, holy crap. So damn sad.
Fluoride poisoned water is a hell of a drug 😢
@@rogue_of_the_winds1286 pff
@@rogue_of_the_winds1286 total mind rape of like three generations
@rogue_of_the_winds1286 you guys are the terminally online ones, always complaining.
This is a better review than the Drinker did
Indeed, I was a bit surprised his review was only 10 Mins, he needs to change from critical to moderate drinker.
Somehow he managed to completely overlook 'The Message'.
Drinker must have been drunk while watching this trash.
Drinker has started self censoring hard I reckon. He's milking the cash cow now instead of standing up for standards.
@@Whats_newss Maybe we are missing the message that is time to leave him.
It's a shame some people praise this show...
"At least it's not as bad as (insert an even worse and woker show)" should NOT be a reason a show gets a good review.
My brother-in-law asked me if I had watched it yet. Because “it’s really good, and there’s so many easter eggs from the games.”
He’s never even played the fucking games
At least his taste in videogames are in order.
Force him to play every single Fallout, including Brotherhood of Steel and 76, and see if he still thinks that.
@@CurlyheartTactics is great
@@ultraviolet540 nvm then
Dawg if you don’t know this the fallout creator likes the show 💀 ☠️
When Michael Rappaport showed up I was dying 😂
So did he
@@noneyabizz8337 Everyone in this show who's slowly dying becomes retarded. Titus threatening Cuck-ximus, saying everything you need to say to ensure the other person NOT saving you. The fugitive scientist, taking the deadly pill BEFORE explaining Lucy the situation. It's not like he could've explained everything, making sure that Lucy in fact will do what he wants, and then killing himself. No. I guess we can't even have a scientist do a smart thing in this show
the jabs he got probably gave him mental damage which explains the bizarre and dumb cave adventure scene where he wanted to shoot something and got killed by a bear.
@@flipneleanor7370 100% lol
Let's reference Fallout 1 with our water chip and hope people won't realize how badly our very existence contradicts Fallout 1!
Doesn't contradict they said it was damaged during the raider attack
@@souljamane9244 Meanwhile the Master just happen to break into Vault 4, 31, 32 and 33.
@@souljamane9244 The point is it reminds us Fallout 1 existed. The events of Fallout 1 making the existence of this place damn near impossible.
@@souljamane9244 It was a memberberry, stop coping. They never bring this up again. You would think it's a big deal. I wonder if they are going to remember this in season 2.
@@rageagaintstheNWO don't need to cope it's a callback I'm well aware of that the show probably isn't even game canon so don't take it that deep I swear everyone is just a contrarian nowadays with no media literacy
Wait… why would he give her a new finger THEN try and harvest her organs?
I actually thought about a logical explanation for that. My guess is maybe it's in robot's original programming to help people with missing limbs (Or fingers) first, and after he's done with that, the new program (made by organ harvesters) kicks in. But at this point I'm just thinking of excuses for this show's poor writing.
it's pretty much Disney Star Wars all over again. Palpatine exploded at the end of episode 6 - "Somehow, palpatine returned", ship that had Chewbacca on board exploded - it was a different ship, Kylo's Tie fighter blew up - Kylo is completely unharmed, someone got stabbed with a lightsaber - they're fine after a couple of days in bed, Lucy's finger got cut off - kind robot welds a new one for no reason. It's this kind of hack writing where "Hurt/kill a character for shock value then revert that so viewer won't get sad their favourite hero died/became a cripple".
@@saveklayou shouldn't have to do the writing for the writers
@@fVcker1 that's what I said.
Oh no a broken robot acts weird!!! Who would have thought!!!
@@funki4896 It's even worse when you try to defend idiocy with satirical comments. Makes you look like an Idiots as well.
How far have people's standards fallen to find this show excellent?!
To think that even Critical drinker says it's good... Yes, it's fun "if you shut down your brain". But if you care even a tiny bit about Fallout's lore, this show is an absolute mess.
Especially because bethesda claims this show is canon.
The Overton Window
It’s even painful watching a review of it . Fxxk this show
*The Halo Show.*
That's how.
And NETFLIX Witcher.
Video Game Adaptations have been such shit, for so many years, that people are willing to give this 5/10 *_(AT MOST)_* high praise, because they're that fucking starved.
Not really a surprise given how stupid people are
And DSP fangirled over this...makes sense
The interesting thing about shows like these and Picard is that I've noticed there seems to be a very distinct racial/gender-based hierarchy established according to the portrayals of the characters:
- White women are usually portrayed as competent and morally good
- Black men are usually portrayed as incompetent but morally good
- Black women are usually portrayed as competent but morally evil
- White men are usually portrayed as both incompetent and morally evil
There are some exceptions to these rules due to casting but generally, according to proportion of the number of characters depicted in each manner, this is pretty accurate across the board for most television series produced after 2020.
I'm confident the storyline for this was written by an AI chatbot. It's not just stupid, it's a complete clusterfuck. Either that, or it was written as it was filmed, and they came up with twists episode-by-episode. There's no way one or more actual human beings wrote the entire season's story beforehand, looked it over, and said "yeah, that makes sense". The final result is screwed up in a way that doesn't make sense. It's not a couple errors or plot holes that can be overlooked; it's a total fiasco.
Todd Howard went on Chat GPT and asked it to write a Fallout show and do it's best to erase New Vegas.
dawg what
@@alt2lmao learn to read
@@Hank.. somebody's angry lol. Sorry for not agreeing with you.
@@Hank.. Tell me how the story is a clusterfuck
It gets a lot of praise but I believe that’s entirely due to the interesting setting and high production value. The writing of the characters is abysmal. Everyone is an insufferable moron.
Lots of the characters are naive due to there lack of exposure to the real world. I found Norm and Cooper to be very smart picking up on the sexrets around them pretty quick. Max and Lucy were also fairly smart they just needed time to adjust. Lucy represented charimatic intelligence and Max is more akin to the real world. I think it was revealed he had high endurance.
I honestly thought that the cast of characters were well rounded. Max could've had some plot holes fixed up but other than that, i found them quite charming. How would you of changed the story if you feel strongly this way?
"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I dont like it so everybody that does must be defective" Go join your counterparts on the far left.
@@12torooh my lord…just because specials exist in the game, doesn’t mean it’s going to work effectively in bloody television show! It’s ridiculous to take all the gamey aspects of something you’re trying to mimic, because they only exist for the sake of gameplay, not because they are apart of the world.
@@drcabbagefacecompletely change the stupid inclusion of vault tec being this super villain who started the war. Have Lucy just be her own character that was thrusted into the wasteland because of something happening with the vault (you could even have had raiders be the cause without the whole dumb connection thing). Fix the Brotherhood to look less like stereotypical military men. Have the NCR and Enclave be the main two factions that are at war, while the catalyst being the enclave carpet bombing shady sands. The ghoul is fine, but maybe change the whole dumb concept of ghoul invincibility, specifically with not getting hungry or thirsty.
I could go on, but many of these writers are incredibly incompetent in making anything with nuance or maturity.
My brother asked me once we were done watching the show: Would you recommend it to a Fallout fan?
Being a fallout fan myself (played 3, New Vegas and 4) I answered:
If you're a fallout 3 fan, maybe, cuz the Brotherhood of Steel looks nothing to the one in 3, but the soundtrack will make you feel good.
If you're a fallout 4 fan, then go ahead, because that seems to be the only game the writers know the story of.
If you're a Fallout New Vegas fan, then fuck no as this show destroys everything you know about the game's story.
yeah I knew this would be fallout 4 boxart the show. they don't even know why that corn is there.
Well said..
And as a stand alone show.. It's writing just straight up sucks..
But as a NV fan.. hell no.. just no.
@@Lizards_Loungeas an nv fan i loved it.
and if you are a fallout 1 and 2 fan this show is a war crime.
@@arkgaharandan5881 I'm a Fallout 1,2,3, New Vegas, and 4 fan. Explain how the show is a war crime. Scan me amateur.
For the record, Shady Sands's "decline" is something made up by theory crafters to try and explain this retconning of an entire faction and game. All the mindless shills and consumers though use this as some sort of universal defence to instantly nullify whatever people who point this out say. Then they proceed to claim victory and plug their ears afterwards.
The right answer to this copium filled retort is that nowhere in the games has it ever been implied that the NCR let alone Shady Sands was declining by 2277. Anything that tourists say afterwards only serve to expose how much they actually played the Fallout games. Or they sidestep into excuses and ad hominems.
It’s honestly just like The Force Awakens was to Star Wars.
It disturbs me that Fallout has gotten so many positive reviews. Do viewers nowadays just not know what good television is anymore? I can't believe Walton Goggins went from starring in masterful shows like The Shield and Justified to this dreck.
To be fair Walton is still LEAGUES above anything in this show and is the best part about it. Dude commanding every scene he's in. He honestly deserved a better show to be attached to.
I’d argue he sucks cock as an actor. I spent most of his scenes screaming “do you want another take, you bored fucking junkie?!?!”
Yes, the bar is that low.
bro, tell me what is wrong with the show. I've been scrolling for the past 10 minutes looking for actual criticism. all of it is either about...
1. Applying game logic to the show and how it makes no sense despite it being a show
2. Bla bla bla "woke" = bad even tho the show isnt even "woke" to begin with.
3. Bad character decisions (Maximus) which i honestly agree with. icl.
@@drcabbageface
The lack of stakes/consequences, how often the tone & storytelling are undermined for cheap bits, how things change to suit the plot (as in the mech suit that could take down a cement building but couldn't stand up to a bear), and how easily characters stumble upon the exact person they need to meet to move the plot along in the middle of a wasteland.
Fallout TV show is literally New Vegas The Frontier mod
Don't remind me of that :(
@@crusaderkaiser2000 XD
Reddit writers worked on it shows.
Bro it’s way worse.
I liked the show, i fell asleep. Best nap i had in a while. Reaper sure tore the show apart. Something drinker went extremely soft on his bs review.
As long the wokeism isn't being done by Disney, then he can find a way to forgive and forget...
Nah drinker wasn't completely wrong he just got enamered by walton goggins and ella purnell like 99% of the people who watched this show. he gave the writing a free pass because it had a good female protagonist and a badass male anithero in a time when those are nearly extinct. He ended up agreeing with Mauler about the writing only a week later. Still his review is accurate considering the majority of people will enjoy this show for the actors the same way he did unlike shows like Rings of Power or Halo
The Drinker is extremely scared of the attention he's getting from mainstream media and of getting canceled. He has been for months now.
So his current modus operandi is to be completely soft and positive of at least some of the shows he would have BLASTED in the past, just to alternate negativity/positivity. It's completely obvious and disingenous, but hey i guess it helps him stay afloat.
@@olisk-jy9rz bro he went on british mainstream media to crap on disney stop schizoposting. He subjectively enjoyed the show because the show because of ella purnell and walton goggins simple as that. most people enjoyed fallout for that simple reason.
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but why is Frederick Sinclair portrayed as a fat old man? He looks like Gizmo from Fallout 1, when he should look like Mr. House
Sinclair shouldn't even be in that meeting in the first place.
it`s also very interesting that Lucy`s father didn`t recognize Maldova in Episode 1 though they seemingly know each other from the pre-war era.
The show literally expressed in the flashbacks that they never met each other before the war. Moldaver only knew of Hank once Lucy's mom came to Shady Sands. If you actually had some media literacy and paid attention to the show you'll have known that.
@@reebonorton4175so you're saying Hank and Maldover met in Shady Sands, and her therefore would have recognized her on Lucy's wedding day.
@@johnleonard9102 There's nothing to imply they met in Shady Sands either.
@@reebonorton4175 Fair enough. But she also stated in the flashback that she engineered a technology which was offered to the several big companies back then what was refused because it wasn't profitable "enough". Be it as it may, maybe I'm wrong. In that case there are only 999 discrepancies left in the whole plot instead of 1000.
@@reebonorton4175all these guys saying the show sucks need everything info dumped on them in one episode. It’s probably from the lack luster story of New Vegas
What I find most impressive is that almost every single point cited in this video is something that was _not_ mentioned in both of synthetic man's videos; some of these (points from reaper's video) being devastating plot holes
Which is to say, the show is even worse than what synthetic man's videos show, if you can believe that
Synthetic man has always been more of a gamer than a movie/tv show reviewer if we're being honest. He's better at shitting on horrible game design decisions and explaining why mechanics don't work rather than disecting the flaws of a stories script. Or looking for every subtle hint of DEI and sweet baby inc influence on a piece of media, even if he sounds a little schizo at times lmao.
Yep. Synth showed it as bad, but Reaper is showing that it was even worse than I though.
which plot points are you referring to?
@@christopherbravo1813 Watch the video, dude
Different people notice different things. I noticed the far-left political issues, that most reviewers didn't, or don't dare to mention, but many problems about the writing (even though I learned how to write) or the lore evaded my attention. Arch, Shad, Synth and others have good, but different points.
One of the very few reviewers that pointed the many plotholes in the writing of this show. I cant believe how it went over most peoples heads
even on it's own merits the show has quite a few flaws
Maybe cuz this aren't potholes? Do ya expect every answer in just 1 season??? 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ I never seen a more brain dead comment section
@@SuperCasperman if you actually bothered to watch this video you’d understand. Or maybe you’re just too stupid. Glad you enjoyed the show anyway
@@SuperCaspermanconsume
Name 1 plot hole
I'm genuinely annoyed at the *usual critics I look to* who said the show was good because that meant I had to watch it or be deluged with spoilers, as I am a Fallout person who consumes Fallout content. It's the first show I've binged since Breaking Bad. I never watch TV or films anymore. I get my entertainment from critics. I'm three episodes in and it's absolutely awful.
Before I tried watching it, I saw the “it gets big Iike a pimple” scene in a meme. I couldn’t believe it was an actual line from the show.
I couldn’t get past episode two.
Get Reaper to 100k!!
Last time I was this early, the Alphabet Mafia just wanted to "get married".
Why is get married in quotations.
@@12torobecause it’s not *just* what they wanted or want
My guess is that he sees marriage as a thing between men and women, perhaps there is a religious belief system at play for Michael. Just a random guess.
They do? Fallout has always had gay characters?
@@12torohe's talking about the slippery slope that began with the LGBT community "just wanting to get married" but now we're at the point where you can't have any of them portrayed negatively in media and are often hailed as the heroes without earning it.
The only exceptional thing about this show is the people willing to defend its laziness
They know their audience, and they made this pile of shit tailored to them. They only care about profits, not how they are slowly kill the franchise. They are slowly removing the RPG in fallout, for lets make every one idiots instead, and its reflected in the TV show.
So happy when I see new videos of yours.
45 minutes of Reaper content to consume? Nice!
This is definitely Reaper’s best video so far. I really hope he does this doctor who fanfic that’s coming out. It’s the closest I’ll get to watching the thing.
this review is better than most films today, heck even most animal and science videos on youtube
Maxie-pad is literally the embodiment of DEI (didn't earn it)
Exactly. Just there to soak up the red stuff afterwards.
Literally Finn 2.0 or Diet Finn 🥱 Pathetic character
Wdym, no one probably earned their armour in that battalion or at least Tidus lol like the brotherhood can be pretty cowardly , and the guy ran from a Yao gui something Maxicock took out in one shot that a guy in power armour could not, like if you wanna be Special kinda folk that’s fine just don’t sound so confident about it.
lol the BOS has been a bunch of larpers since day one, that's why in 2 they've become fanatics who can't even remember Maxson's name
@@davepumphernickel9568 I think the point they were trying to make was that there was no character development or consequences for their actions. That, and things just happened to progress the plot, aka: bad writing.
45 minutes of Reaper tearing into a terrible show? Sign me up! 😅
Honestly it almost made sitting through 8 episodes of that garbage worth it. Definitely the best thing to come out of the show so far. Big thanks to reaper.
@@DoctorRevers Why would you watch all 8 episodes? Oh because you are full of crap and you will just say anything that you think the echo chamber wants to hear. People are such sheep
More like 45 minutes of him crying like a big baby because they didn't show everything in 1 session 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
@@DoctorRevers🤣🤣🤡🤡
Reminder: "our guy" Critical Drinker liked this show.
Reminder these ain't ya guys they are professional shills and hate mongers
TCD lost the C and now hes just a drinker
Complete scummy shill that he is vile he got millions of normie idiots to support this anti white garbage.
Drinkers been compromised for a while now
I think it can easily be summed up like this: He's become so accustomed to slop he thinks mediocrity is good. Also he's not a Fallout fan.
Saw a good quote by someone regarding NV. "Love that New Vegas was pointless. NCR gone, the Strip is abandoned, Mr. House was evil all along and the Courier might as well just stayed in that grave. All for nothing."