I am from the southwest of England and live half an hour away from the Westlands Helicopter plant, and in July 2022 I did my year 10 work experience there and got to see the new helicopters and the old ones so it was cool to see that it is recognised and that all of the helicopters made there are in the game.
@@pignbird4007 ye it was amazing. they let ur fly the simulators and if u get accepted in the work experience the reserve an opportunity for u to apply for an apprenticeship at 16
@@jimbobjoe4696 I did mechanical design but they move you round in 3 & 6 month placements. I was in transmissions ME, Lynx structures (I asked for 6 months here because there was a lot of Wildcat work going on) SMTE (Structural Mechanical Test Engineering), Seaking technical publications & Build tech pubs. I only stayed on for a year after my apprenticeship because I had another opportunity but having it on my CV has been as good as a degree for me. If you do a technical apprenticeship you’ll get a HND and if your really good they will put you through a degree in your 5th year. You can do a Craft apprenticeship too where you’d learn how to build the things and make some of the parts. It’s a well paid, easy going job that you’ll be proud to tell people you work there. Your mum & dad would be proud of you too.
As someone who happens to live just a few miles away from the formally Westlands site (now Leonardo) and has friends who work there, this is great to see!
My Dad was an design engineer at Westland in the mid 80's (before I was born) and for a long time the Seaking Helicopter had the gearbox that he designed in it. Every time we see one he tries to work out what model it is to work out if it's "one of his" or not.
I’m ex-AAC, my first posting was in Germany 1980, we had Lynx and Gazelle, then I was posted to the UK, where Scouts were still in service. Both poles apart. Have to say, Lynx had some issues back then, oil and hydraulic leaks, with plenty of them returning on one engine. I was part of the abseil display team. Quite the adrenaline rush, stood on the skid, weighted rope bag in one hand, the other gripping the cabin frame. Pilot speeding in to the display area at 50 feet, then nose up to 200 feet into a hover, drop the bags, then 3 race to the ground, braking as late as they dared, then me, appearing to fall from the skid, no hands, horizontal crucifix and pray my brakeman was going to bring me down without trying to make my heels smack the back of my head! Unfortunately, on the last display, something went wrong and I piled into the ground. Which hurt… a lot! I preferred the Scout, weird huh?
Excellent video. Really enjoyed this, Gaijin. ❤ It still bums me out some of the premium helicopters were removed, though. Especially since there were never a lot of premium helicopters to begin with. Would you please consider bringing them back?
I mean heli’s are interesting but they are just impossible to grind / use effectively just because so many different factors come into play. I mean sure there’s those moments when the enemy is brain dead and you can get maybe 2 to 4 kills before you get shot down but if your not something like a Z19E or a BlackShark then there’s not much you can do sadly.
The Scout and Wasp were great aircraft to work on. You could check most of the engine by looking at it. No need to remove panels or look through restricted openings.
@@SmikeMan It was added with the rest of the Israeli helicopter tree. I just can't remember the last time a new helicopter was added to an already existing helicopter tree, that was not premium. New planes, ground vehicles, and naval vehicles are added all the time, but never a new researchable helicopter, unless it's a brand new tree like China's or Israel's. Those are the most recent.
Is there any worthwhile difference between the scout and the wasp ingame? As far as I can tell it’s just that the scout has guns and a lower repair cost last time I checked.
No I don't enjoy flying them as their repair cost is infinite unless the repair costs have been changed I remember it being 13K sl to spawn 1 scout AH1 heli, 13k for 4 missiles.
@@thisisaduck No I have barely any mods just flack vest and someother stuff, it seems the repair cost may have changed, I just remember when I played it, it was 13K but 8K is still a little much but not as bad, sorry to confuse you.
Honestly it was the only heli company I knew off until I played WT but that much have something to do with living in the uk. Everyone loves to go on about the Westland Wessex.
@@thisisaduck In Australia the vast majority of helicopters were Bell types. 47, 206, and UH-1s. The army had a few Scouts for a while, the navy had Sycamores, Wasps, Wessex and Seaking. But they're all retired now.
First time I ever flew was in a Lynx as an army cadet, aged 15, around Salisbury Plain. Let’s just say I knew that day I would never suffer from air sickness as no commercial flight will do what that pilot did
Maybe someone can explain for me.... Take Rank 3 British Tech tree at BR 5.3 but you place the BR 5.0 Skink into your lineup and now suddenly according to the tier rankings it only seems to que for Tier 4 matches which seems to have a much longer que time seemingly due to lack of people queing BR 5.3 for tier 4 which seems to be mostly mostly BR 6.0-7.0 with couple oddballs like the Skink, Comet (Finnish) couple of US tanks and the oddball AMX-13 DCA 40 (France at 4.7). What is the Tech Tree rank supposed to represent...... Is it a date vehicle was made or some other variable?
Haven't really played British helicopters, but I have had my ass handed to me by them several times, so I've learned to respect them when they're the hands of a competent player.
I hate gaijin that they literally had to make me grind the same heli just to get to the lynx, could of just added the South Africa puma heli in its place by now
Question, how effective are MANPADs mounted against helicopters? I am aware that the stinger missiles are not super reliable nor have a lot of range but helicopters don’t fly as high nor anywhere near as fast as fixed wing Jets at their BR range, meaning that they should be more reliable against them.
Well, to catch to your question at the end of the video: Jey, i enjoy flying helicopters, if i just could research them before i will die of old age due to the economics of them.
Oh, WESTland! I thought you said wasteland. I was hoping for a weird spinoff into the not-too-distant future where you took creative liberties to actually make a balanced game. Oh, well.. btw did you see the new Panther advertisement? Just wondering ;)
@@kittylove0921 creates imbalance where you have teams filled with tier 1s with maybe like 3 or 4 players on said team in capable vehicles. It's like the premium problem where new players buy top tier vehicles and have no line-up to benefit the team, so they die once and return to hanger.
Most of these designs were build as Westland aircraft, ok the UK Apache was in the Agustawestland era but it’s called Leonardo now. During the Augusta/Leo era all the military stuff is built at the Somerset factory, the Italians handle mostly Civ stuff. Either way, everyone still calls it Westlands still round here.
What are the chances of a new pilotage map?. Mountains and hills and lakes and such. The ten year old flat map is so unexciting. It’s small and there’s like two, three bridges to fly under. Please a consideration
Why tf did you give us the version of the Apache MK 1 that the American's gave us and not the variant we the British made better? plus why do you neglect the British tech tree.
I wish I could play helicopter well. I do not know what a good optimised lay out for their controls on Keyboard would be. I keep using my plane keyboard settings, but this is not optimal. Any good guides out there?
Just use wasdqe like you would for a plane. So qe for yaw, ws for pitch and ad for roll. I switch between mouse aim for using guns and simplified so I can hover and move around better.
Please takin listen to me once for god sake, Release the UH-60 Blackhawk Helicopter to the American Tech tree, they have a Attack variant 😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
Even irl it Doesn’t count mate. There have been several compound and coaxial designs (ka50 is one) that are faster but no other main rotor/tail rotor configuration comes close to G-Lynx. Beautiful machine.
Give my soul back
Sorry but no refunds
Goodluck with that...
The snail is invinsible
No
It’s too late for all of us
It’s already been blended with the other souls to make Stalinium, how do you expect to get it back?
The Lynx overall is a nice helicopter and the British Apache is my fav among the AH-64
You need to hop on the V6 echo model AH-64. British apache is old now.
I am from the southwest of England and live half an hour away from the Westlands Helicopter plant, and in July 2022 I did my year 10 work experience there and got to see the new helicopters and the old ones so it was cool to see that it is recognised and that all of the helicopters made there are in the game.
That's such a good opportunity
@@pignbird4007 ye it was amazing. they let ur fly the simulators and if u get accepted in the work experience the reserve an opportunity for u to apply for an apprenticeship at 16
Noice mate, try and get an apprenticeship. I did mine there and I’ve had an outstanding career ever since.
@@Ammotive28 Really? Its a small world. What part did you work in?
@@jimbobjoe4696 I did mechanical design but they move you round in 3 & 6 month placements. I was in transmissions ME, Lynx structures (I asked for 6 months here because there was a lot of Wildcat work going on) SMTE (Structural Mechanical Test Engineering), Seaking technical publications & Build tech pubs. I only stayed on for a year after my apprenticeship because I had another opportunity but having it on my CV has been as good as a degree for me.
If you do a technical apprenticeship you’ll get a HND and if your really good they will put you through a degree in your 5th year.
You can do a Craft apprenticeship too where you’d learn how to build the things and make some of the parts. It’s a well paid, easy going job that you’ll be proud to tell people you work there. Your mum & dad would be proud of you too.
Does this mean we can get the Westland Wildcat for the British helicopter tree??
Especially armed with 20 multi-role Martlet missiles for engaging tanks, ships AND aircraft.
no be stupid. it wpould be good. Cant have that for a non-russian vehicle
Is mid map aa in air rb fixed?
@@laiyucheng8496 Yesn't. Sometimes u can go slow and ground pound em, and some days u get instant pilot sniped
Yeah, and Perhaps the Puma or Chinook may follow too, if were so lucky.
I love my Lynx. Thing is so much fun to fly out in GRB and Heli EC.
As someone who happens to live just a few miles away from the formally Westlands site (now Leonardo) and has friends who work there, this is great to see!
It will always be Westlands mate.
My Dad was an design engineer at Westland in the mid 80's (before I was born) and for a long time the Seaking Helicopter had the gearbox that he designed in it. Every time we see one he tries to work out what model it is to work out if it's "one of his" or not.
I’m ex-AAC, my first posting was in Germany 1980, we had Lynx and Gazelle, then I was posted to the UK, where Scouts were still in service. Both poles apart. Have to say, Lynx had some issues back then, oil and hydraulic leaks, with plenty of them returning on one engine. I was part of the abseil display team. Quite the adrenaline rush, stood on the skid, weighted rope bag in one hand, the other gripping the cabin frame. Pilot speeding in to the display area at 50 feet, then nose up to 200 feet into a hover, drop the bags, then 3 race to the ground, braking as late as they dared, then me, appearing to fall from the skid, no hands, horizontal crucifix and pray my brakeman was going to bring me down without trying to make my heels smack the back of my head! Unfortunately, on the last display, something went wrong and I piled into the ground. Which hurt… a lot! I preferred the Scout, weird huh?
The scout and the wasp are my favourite helicopters. Thanks WarThunder
G-Lynx superiority
Excellent video. Really enjoyed this, Gaijin. ❤
It still bums me out some of the premium helicopters were removed, though. Especially since there were never a lot of premium helicopters to begin with. Would you please consider bringing them back?
G Lynx is incredible
She’s been restored and is Weston helicopter museum. Worth a look.
I mean heli’s are interesting but they are just impossible to grind / use effectively just because so many different factors come into play. I mean sure there’s those moments when the enemy is brain dead and you can get maybe 2 to 4 kills before you get shot down but if your not something like a Z19E or a BlackShark then there’s not much you can do sadly.
maybe if i grind another 500 hours il be able to fly a helicopter
My dear old Dad worked at Westlands from 1969 to 1990. The company breathed life into Yeovil, with about 12,000 employees.
The Scout and Wasp were great aircraft to work on. You could check most of the engine by looking at it. No need to remove panels or look through restricted openings.
Please Italian helicopter video!!
The Scout with the "Raspberry" camo is my hospital helicopter
I do love my 4 British TT helis
Gaijin could add more you know. But when was the last time an existing helicopter tree got updated with the addition of a new researchable helicopter?
@@blueshark7385 little bird?
@@SmikeMan What about it?
@@blueshark7385 I guess it was the last one added
@@SmikeMan It was added with the rest of the Israeli helicopter tree. I just can't remember the last time a new helicopter was added to an already existing helicopter tree, that was not premium. New planes, ground vehicles, and naval vehicles are added all the time, but never a new researchable helicopter, unless it's a brand new tree like China's or Israel's. Those are the most recent.
Q: Will wing vapor effects be added to jets?
Don’t those already exist?
Will the IAR 316B ever be made available for purchase again? It would really be fun to have.
Is there any worthwhile difference between the scout and the wasp ingame? As far as I can tell it’s just that the scout has guns and a lower repair cost last time I checked.
No I don't enjoy flying them as their repair cost is infinite unless the repair costs have been changed I remember it being 13K sl to spawn 1 scout AH1 heli, 13k for 4 missiles.
Are you playing spaded? I have like 3 mods to go and it only costs 8k which is still 1k more than it should be
@@thisisaduck No I have barely any mods just flack vest and someother stuff, it seems the repair cost may have changed, I just remember when I played it, it was 13K
but 8K is still a little much but not as bad, sorry to confuse you.
The only gaming company which will teach you something and sometimes tells you more than a Discovery Channel :)) Love these your videos.
A very under rated helicopter company. Vastly overshadowed by Bell with the Vietnam war, but well known in Commonwealth countries.
Honestly it was the only heli company I knew off until I played WT but that much have something to do with living in the uk. Everyone loves to go on about the Westland Wessex.
@@thisisaduck In Australia the vast majority of helicopters were Bell types. 47, 206, and UH-1s. The army had a few Scouts for a while, the navy had Sycamores, Wasps, Wessex and Seaking. But they're all retired now.
Love the westland choppers, im not the best of heli pilots in the game, but i fly them for fun. And fun they are.
Love the first soundtrack!
I love the look of the little wasp. It’s such a cool looking design.
Do you say the same thing when you go to the supermarket and see a shopping trolley? lol
@@thisisaduck Haha! Alright I see what you mean. But what if the shopping trolley had a gun on it and could fly?
Not happy that you didn’t add the Westland lynx HMA 8 :(
First time I ever flew was in a Lynx as an army cadet, aged 15, around Salisbury Plain. Let’s just say I knew that day I would never suffer from air sickness as no commercial flight will do what that pilot did
We really need a helicopter focused game
Leonardo is an ITALIAN company not a merged European, what the hell are you saying?!
Leonardo is ex Finmeccanica a State owned company
Maybe someone can explain for me....
Take Rank 3 British Tech tree at BR 5.3 but you place the BR 5.0 Skink into your lineup and now suddenly according to the tier rankings it only seems to que for Tier 4 matches which seems to have a much longer que time seemingly due to lack of people queing BR 5.3 for tier 4 which seems to be mostly mostly BR 6.0-7.0 with couple oddballs like the Skink, Comet (Finnish) couple of US tanks and the oddball AMX-13 DCA 40 (France at 4.7).
What is the Tech Tree rank supposed to represent......
Is it a date vehicle was made or some other variable?
I've had a nice time using the Scout but I find the 7mm lacking... either the ammo or just being two of them unlike the alouette
How do you make it work. I just get shot down
@@russellmiles2861 keep your distance and don’t even spawn if there’s a jet up.
@@russellmiles2861 try to go for AAs first, then other tanks.
I think if you’re using the guns you’re doing something wrong.
Pls add proper interior for all helicopters
I’ve used the scout for a long time now and honestly, any br it does the job 👍🏻
Haven't really played British helicopters, but I have had my ass handed to me by them several times, so I've learned to respect them when they're the hands of a competent player.
No matter what helicopter gets added, nothing with be as more blatantly broken like the ka50. That helicopter made grinding helicopters living hell
Buff hellfires range speed and make it so you can change it to direct fire mode
very cool and bring something that planes destroy buildings with shots
We need HD cockpit on AH-1Z, AH-64A bro..
When do we get Vought?
2:35 how did you kill something with the LMGs?
Open top tank.
Looked like an ostwind
Its been really quiet from leaks and videos about the december update! Almost like the quiet before the storm!
any hints about when we might see new update teaser?
Bro we just had 2 major updates very close together. Have some patience
I still fly the biggest of them all, the Wessex HU5.
Now add more British helicopters
Can we get the Augusta Westland Merlin Mk2 or the Westland Sea king for fighting naval targets or I believe with the Sea king even ground targets?
The eh/aw 101 merlin is quite fun to fly irl
My favorite heli, the me-24
Can we get helicopter tutorials at any point or do you unlock those later in the game
Nothing is better than DCS.
you should add air refuleing, so we can fight whith less fuel
The a 20g i think its called can land but cant take off cause props just snap if u try move
Where are my fire and forget hellfires for my AH MK.1? or my prototype brimstone missiles?
The brimstone would be absolutely broken in War Thunder. Imagine a hellfire but with up to 30-40km range, plus autonomous capabilities.
Interesting to hear the history
I hate gaijin that they literally had to make me grind the same heli just to get to the lynx, could of just added the South Africa puma heli in its place by now
Hey Gaijin, what's the hanger mod for the Scout / Centurion ?
Anyone else think they need to remove vehicle repair after matches? It's such a waste of time and takes forever to get the money for them
It definitely should be lower in some cases but in others it needs to go up like for half the German and Russian tech trees.
If you are struggling to get enough sl using any lineup you probably should go back to rank 1 and relearn the basics.
@@thisisaduck ok
Question, how effective are MANPADs mounted against helicopters? I am aware that the stinger missiles are not super reliable nor have a lot of range but helicopters don’t fly as high nor anywhere near as fast as fixed wing Jets at their BR range, meaning that they should be more reliable against them.
Helicopter helicopter 🚁
Oh Boy! More CAS!
Can u pls buff the accuracy od the hellfire ? Its very very unrealistic thanks
Well, to catch to your question at the end of the video: Jey, i enjoy flying helicopters, if i just could research them before i will die of old age due to the economics of them.
Ok i hate to brag but i live opposite a westlands airfield and my family have a history of building helis and planes
The Vietnam update
Oh, WESTland! I thought you said wasteland. I was hoping for a weird spinoff into the not-too-distant future where you took creative liberties to actually make a balanced game. Oh, well.. btw did you see the new Panther advertisement? Just wondering ;)
Watched this 32 seconds after it was posted
When DEV Blog?
All I ask is for a new Premium Germany heli
That’s cool but you know what I need? AA 6.0 for america
Talk about French Helicopters next please
Why can you only use helis once you get rank 5 tanks and planes?
Cause then you'd have people with tier 1 tanks in an 8.0 battle...not like that doesn't happen already, but it'd be more rampant
@Chiefturion but why is that a problem tier 1 tanks at 8.0 is a free kill
@@kittylove0921 creates imbalance where you have teams filled with tier 1s with maybe like 3 or 4 players on said team in capable vehicles. It's like the premium problem where new players buy top tier vehicles and have no line-up to benefit the team, so they die once and return to hanger.
@Chiefturion very fair point I didn't think about that
@@kittylove0921 it’s more of a skill thing than a br thing.
We need them in dcs
i don't have helicopters yet, but i am very close.
Please gaijin add wildcat with martlet missiles
Westland AH64 Apache Mk.1
When are you adding the French Navy ?
and please fix the broken spawn protection xD
My grand father lived where they were they were made
Is this worth it ?
Maybe you meant Agusta Westland?
Most of these designs were build as Westland aircraft, ok the UK Apache was in the Agustawestland era but it’s called Leonardo now.
During the Augusta/Leo era all the military stuff is built at the Somerset factory, the Italians handle mostly Civ stuff.
Either way, everyone still calls it Westlands still round here.
Maybe adjust the reward for using helicopters. Takes forever to progress in them
g lynx is my favourite but i dont have enough gold eagle to buy it
Gaijin any news on War Thunder Edge I'm exited for it???!?!!?!?!!?!!!¡!???
What are the chances of a new pilotage map?. Mountains and hills and lakes and such. The ten year old flat map is so unexciting. It’s small and there’s like two, three bridges to fly under. Please a consideration
Literally, all you would have to do is convert Ashriver !! Tanks planes and helis. But no shooting. And much larger in scale.
Why tf did you give us the version of the Apache MK 1 that the American's gave us and not the variant we the British made better?
plus why do you neglect the British tech tree.
Buff starstreaks back.. now they are useless
Groud battle without heli is very good
We need the lynx wildcat
I wish I could play helicopter well.
I do not know what a good optimised lay out for their controls on Keyboard would be.
I keep using my plane keyboard settings, but this is not optimal.
Any good guides out there?
Just use wasdqe like you would for a plane. So qe for yaw, ws for pitch and ad for roll. I switch between mouse aim for using guns and simplified so I can hover and move around better.
@@thisisaduck Thx
Add helicopters to sim EC please
Wow these are really cool, is there any way I can get these without dedicating my entire life to this game or spending 60$ or more?
Please takin listen to me once for god sake, Release the UH-60 Blackhawk Helicopter to the American Tech tree, they have a Attack variant 😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
Is the situation that dire?
Somerset, gods own county.
Cider, Glasto & helicopters.
Your welcome.
The voice actor seems down today, hope everything is going fine for him
Do you enjoy flying them?
Meanwhile in OTOMATIC: Phew phew large Proxy Fuse High Explosive shells.
I can never manage helicopters.
Russian Helicopters thats where hell the Ka50 does well over 400km/h in the game atleast so i think they broke that record
Even irl it Doesn’t count mate. There have been several compound and coaxial designs (ka50 is one) that are faster but no other main rotor/tail rotor configuration comes close to G-Lynx. Beautiful machine.
there is a wasp Brazilian skin on the marketplace (esse ano o hexa vem)