Released From Guantanamo (Out of Gitmo) (full documentary) | FRONTLINE
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- FRONTLINE and NPR followed the trail of one of the final detainees released by the Obama administration from the prison at Guantanamo Bay. (Aired 2017)
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When President Barack Obama first took office, he signed an executive order to close the controversial military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba - where the U.S. has held terror suspects for years without charges. Though he didn’t succeed in closing Gitmo, a symbol of the post-9/11 “war on terror,” Obama made a final push to clear out the camp before President Donald Trump took over.
The documentary “Out of Gitmo” examines the challenges and complexities of releasing men who were once deemed “indefinite detainees” - those never charged with a crime but considered too great a risk to let go.
“Out of Gitmo” was a collaboration with NPR and WGBH News. The writer and producer was James Jacoby. The correspondent was NPR/WGBH News reporter Arun Rath. The senior producer was Frank Koughan. The senior investigations editor for NPR was Robert Little. “Out of Gitmo” was a production with Left/Right Docs. The executive producers for Left/Right Docs were Ken Druckerman and Banks Tarver. The executive producer for FRONTLINE was Raney Aronson-Rath.
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CHAPTERS:
Examining the Push to Release Guantanamo Detainees in Obama’s Last Year - 1:41
Meeting a Former Guantanamo Detainee on Hunger Strike - 6:55
Former Guantanamo Detainee: ‘We Were Like Animals in Cages’ - 17:36
Obama’s Special Envoy for Guantanamo Closure Talks About Resettling Ex-Detainees - 27:42
The Guantanamo Bay Prison’s Future - 34:43
Credits - 38:00
How does a detainee go from being "high risk" for 14 years to being released the next? All of a sudden the risk that was there just a few months ago no longer exists? All with no charges being filed. And if that's not bad enough, you send him back to a country that's not even his own!
Or did the reality of a man’s innocence finally come out?
I wish we knew but the fact that so many were never charged with a crime just isn’t right.
Because the us just randomly kidnapped people and pretended they were terrorist . This country is the worlds gate keeper. Shame
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They are still a high risk but legally speaking they are in a legal limbo! We have to wait until they attack again so we can finish them off but it’s unfair to the rest of the community because they are essentially the lambs waiting to get slaughtered!
Because they knew he was never a threat! They not stupid to just leave him like that.
Picture this, from 19 years old until you are 35, you are held without charges, at a lawless prison, in solitary confinement, no help, no litigation, no representation, on a premise that may or may not be true at all.
Those are the prime years of your life.
We don't know, if he agreed to the warlord for himself to be sacrificed for money for guns n bullets or propaganda or what ever a warlord spends his money On? But monsoon does have a better life then those other immigrants that live n the back of that building in serbia
@@wangus2998 What are you talking about? What makes you feel as though you're in anyway qualified to make such definitive claims about a situation you know virtually nothing about outside this video... at best you have an speculative opinion. As do I... the difference however is that I have the benefit of thinking critically and rationally. Not sure why you'd consider being monitored 24/7 under house arrest to be the more favorable situation? I'd choose homelessness with freedom over that without question.
@@mjames3662I truthfully don’t know what I’d choose if I had to choose between those two horrible options. Neither is good, neither is fair.
So the idea of being presumed innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to foreigners?
Those people were held without trial, without lawyers, without any way to communicate, etc etc etc etc. No proof that they ever did anything at all, just accusations. Anybody who thinks that was ok or necessary shares the guilt for that evil.
its the illegal patriot act that bush cheney passed that allowed illegal detainment on foreign prisons, hold them with no court hearing, and torture.
Yes and also if an American gives aid and comfort to a IS enemy of a foreign country their constitutional rights are gone meaning they can do the same. No way to even know if they really did anything wrong because it’s confidential information not released to the public. Crazy
Usamerican human rights, no better than China's, that's for sure.
@@devrinmg NO WAY
R U SERIOUS
Frontline is my favourite documentary channel for many a reason...this doccie is yet another. Well done. Kudus to you and your team. 🇿🇦
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert
Careful what you beLIEve and be objective now more than ever about tell lie vision as Frontline like Bill Moyers used to tell the truth with integrity.
Now?
Not so much
Hey phuckwad, learn to write and spell in English. "Doccie" is not an abbreviation of "documentary". Nor is "kudus", which describes a herd of African animals, the way to write "kudos". I'm so sick of morons who assume that their word usage needn't be checked with a dictionary, thesaurus, and other wordsmith's tools. I pulled "A's" in legal writing in law school (a LOT of hard, exacting work that took time to sharpen and polish my writing) skills) and STILL use them today to make certain that my writing is clear, sharp, and clean, regardless of the place where it appears, out of respect to my readers and myself.
Please do not forget that PBS is a well US controlled news outlet..
@@jdclarke47 Okay….
Maybe I’m going crazy in my old age but there’s something about this man that I believe what he is saying
How about there is nothing wrong with you and the guy is actually truthful. American government is nothing short of bunch of criminals. I can see that you have the German flag, can you tell me what they are doing in your country with the biggest base outside US? Just the desire of total control and meddling in everyone's business.
Dude was in there for so long that he speaks like an American.
Rehabilitation complete
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I wish all immigrants were as dedicated as him lollll
@tjlovesrachel maybe if you torture them they will learn how to ask you to stop
@@mikegrindstaff I don’t want to torture people I want immigrants to assimilate to their new lands and learn the language… that’s all… there is no reason why you came to this country 15 years ago and can’t form a simple sentence in English
We need a continuation of this
I could never understand how someone can be held without any charges for years on end. Living in limbo is enough to make you nuts.
eventually people are gonna get aggresive and start knocking heads and i wouldnt blame them.
Believe it's been ruled...subject to correction...and I don't agree with it....that Habeas Corpus only applies to American Citizens
What's even crazier is they are denied legal representation, and are not permitted access to the evidence as the U.S. claims the evidence is classified.
@@alaincharnier1971 many were there for simple associations, your uncle end up being an extremist? coworker? etc, you could end up there.
Exactly. The worst is solitary confinement. it is worse than death. Days on end no interactions, no relationships. Enough to drive anyone mad. This is what they did under Obama's watch. If you think Obama was great you should think again.
Detaining anyone without charges or trial for years and years is unconstitutional, violates international law, and quite simply inhumane. The former detainee has exchanged his Gitmo cell for the larger one of Serbia, a country known for its anti-Muslim history and contemporary sentiments where his human rights were still being violated in 2017 (perhaps quietly encouraged by the Trump administration). He still has neither seen any charges that would justify his detention nor faced an impartial trial. But this must be according to the 6th Amendment to the Constitution, even if he is regarded as a terrorist.
The Bush Administration seems to have thought the non-ratification of Geneva 1977 was a loophole, perhaps to protect the U.S. from being accused to violate it based on its involvement in protecting various dictators around the world at the time,.Article 45 states that "a person [non-military] taking part in hostilities and falls into the power of an adverse party shall be presumed a prisoner of war. ...until such time as his status has been determined by a competent tribunal." The extraterritorial argument that put Guantanamo outside the U.S and therefore U.S. law did not apply, was stricken down by the Supreme Court in 2004 in Rasul v. Bush in that the U.S. had extensive legal rights over Guantanamo, and that Guantanamo inmates had the right under Habeas Corpus to challenge their detention. In spite of that decision this inmate lingered in legal limbo for at least 10 more years until his extradition to Serbia where he still is suffering.
I am surprised he has not committed suicide to escape such a life. No charge, no trial, no judgment, but lots of injustice as the footage of the Serbian officials in his apartment shows. No one knows if that man is dangerous or ever was. The United States ought to be ashamed.
I've felt the same way and I was assured that other countries do "things like this," whatever that is.
Serbia dont need him.Ask USA why send him to Serbia
I so glad you're so worried about radical muslims rights of people that would kill you in a second!
We can’t even treat our domestic prisoners with respect or decency. Sad to say, but I don’t think the U.S. will be prioritizing the well-being of foreign detainees anytime soon.
Obama kept people in cages to. What a liberal freak.
Excellent documentary. Thank you.
Oh boy, I’m not even 2 mins in and reading some of the comments.. As a Serbian American, why tf would they send this man to Serbia of all places? They are intolerant of immigrants unless they are just quietly passing through on their way to the EU. Unless he was granted a long term visa, he can’t work, go to school, etc. I’m pretty sure he can’t get health care unless he’s a citizen. I have a feeling this episode is going to illicit strong angry emotions.. but here we go lol .. will report back.. ok after watching, he was sent there legally and without and foresight or programs set in place for him to rebuilt a life. Serbia has to keep checks on him which is frustrating, but he should at the same time have a rehab / resources for a chance at getting a job / counseling. Serbia isn’t tolerant of his situation and doesn’t know how to deal with it. They are exacerbating the situation. Do to the instability in Yemen, j understand that he can’t be send back there right now, but he should be at least send to Bosnia. Any non radicalized Muslim
country where he can be around his peers and flourish in a place familiar to him where he knows the culture and have a support network. Poor guy - this is shit show. Ok, just watched. I didn’t know Serbia allowed him to come. Obviously they still treat him like shit and he has no prospects. I didn’t know that people from Yemen didn’t get sent back because of the instability caused by the Saudis, Iran, UAE, USA, etc. that sucks for him. They should have sent him to Jordan or somewhere Muslim and tolerant for the most part.
Their country didn’t want them back. It’s as simple as that.
@@deesus1085 Or, they never got any information from them despite their tortures they dished out. As such, didn't allow them to return to their respective countries as a last FU.
@@deesus1085 No. The US government decided Uemen was too unstable to send him home. Plus the Saudis are at war with Yemen.
@@zaberfang The US govt got information from the detainee they just not releasing it publicly and the detainee is not telling anything either...which should tell you he is not some innocent guy just picked up....He is not allowed o return to certain countries because 1 those contries don't want him and 2 more importantly The US wants to make sure this guy can't do anything....If this guy is so innocent...he should of told the reporter what he was doing when he got picked up...But what does he tell the reporter...i will tell you later...WHEN THE GUY CAN MAKE UP ANOTHER STORY TO SUIT HIS PURPOSES...
@@sciencehistoryandentertain734 if he was doing something wrong or illegal when he got picked up then why werent there any charges laid . How come after holding him for 14 yrs they werent able to find or come up with any proof or evidence of him doing something wrong or illegal and lay charges ? How did he go from being labeled "so dangerous" and "high risk" that they could hold him without charges for 14 yrs to suddenly be not dangerous , not high risk and released the next day ?
Thank you for sharing your experience
The way *we,* Americans, treated Mansoor is absolutely horrible. And then the way the Serbian government treated him is likewise horrible.
Human rights violations on both sides
Wait they gave him a free apartment and an allowance and the freedom to go anywhere he wants, and thats just as horrible as waterboarding in Guantanamo?
Take responsibility for your own problems and stop defmecting them on other countries.
@@PrayedForYou You clearly didn't see the spying on him parts, the assaulting him parts, the stealing of his personal property and wiping that data, etc.
This isn't a debate on who is worse.
This is a comment saying *both* countries committed human rights abuses against this man. And yeah, *everyone* needs to own up to that. American and Serbian
he is not a good guy
@@Mikeb8134 Thank you god for your judgement
The smug and arrogant “Ambassador” can take a long walk off a short pier. What a pathetic man.
Short trip down a long mineshaft
Help Us Americans to Comprehend the TRUTH!!
Obama can follow him down that mineshaft or short pier as well, Mr. Professor of Law, & ⚖ 6:43
Dudes a clown
You would think the US would help him settle, cover his expenses and help him transition into a new life but this is bad. These people should get together and file a war crime charges.
Against him?
He is a TERRORIST FOR GOD'S SAKE!! Why don't you adopt him. Problem-solved!
@@davidf7572 Americans
Bushes beans won’t happen.
What war crime? They were prisoners of war. They declared war on the US. I am laughing so hard at what you said.
Thank you Frontline!
wow this was so good, great host
Salute to this channel pbs . This is what original and real journalism is
The first sentence of his memoir is a chilling description of what happens when you start losing your mind in solitary confinement: you start acting out often with erratic, violent and/or self harming behaviour. I believe him that he has been detained for no reason other than that the US believed 'he fit the profile'. To dump him in Serbia and expect him to just assimilate is incomprehensible to me and just the sheer cruelty of all this pisses me off, no accountability, no justice. Fuck the US war on terror.
The US are the terrorists. Traitors shaking down others for bribes, favors, millions in payouts for favors and selling our America to it's enemies
Joe Biden is the most transparent and untouchable.
All the while, arresting Trump for crimes the Democrats themselves care committing.
We need a civil war to remove these traitors from our government.
In Serbia of all places! Given the country's history of "ethnic cleansing" of muslims in the 90s, sending someone to Serbia is a crime in itself!
What really made me angry was the US guys nonchalance about him having a hard time over there, and just expecting that the other government wouldn’t survey him at all times and keep his contact with others at zero. Just ridiculously naive if he truly believes that…
Imagine being there so long he became a fully fluent English speaker.
I met a Vietnam POW who spoke Vietnamese after three years in a bamboo cage
Same thing I notice
I wish the Dominicans in the bx did the same 😂😂😂
And Ambassador Waloski had the *gall* to suggest he should just learn Serbian! How many languages does this guy need to learn under duress before he’s free?
Look, an "Imagine" comment!
We don't have to imagine anything, we just heard the man.
Great work PBS!!
I dont know what to say sadly... But I will say I feel completely different than I did at the beginning of this.. that poor guy . 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Unimaginable atrocities were committed at Gitmo but we were absolved of any wrongdoings because they were 'enemy combatants ' and not prisoners. I was a young and dumb military dude
You actually bought that logic…? 😂
If they were enemy combatants as soon you’ve captured them or have taken possession of them from a third party they become prisoners of war.
@@mattalibozek7258 We were programmed otherwise. They gave us free reign to release our anger 🤬. And boy did we let them have it. None of those prisoners will be the same
Can you say more about what you saw there? How were the detainees?
@@tm67724 absolutely not. I plead the fifth. As a matter of fact I believe they was treated very humanly...compared to isis or north Korean prisoners
@pazuzuxx don't reveal stuff. I'm asking how the detainees were. Not their conditions, how they were as people. Is it okay for you to say? Also, I don't think North Korea and isis are good standards to look at.
Since this is an old video i am wondering if there are any updates on Munsoon? I don't know if that is how his name is spelled.
This documentary was a lot better than the one Vice did , anyone remember watching the young lady ask such stupid questions and them getting annoyed with her .
Yep!!
This is really wrong with what is happening to this man 😢
Thank you Frontline for this piece of information. Watching from Uganda, Kampala
I don’t understand the timeline. This was filmed back in 2017? Is there an update on this?
Ive read a couple books on these guys ...most were just farmers and poor kids that AlQueda reported on for bounty money . Sad deal . I couldnt imagine being sent to Gitmo for 5-10-15 years . Smh
But Al-Qaeda was the organization that the U.S. was fighting, along with the Taliban who was the governing body of Afghanistan. Why would they receive any bounty? It would be those Afghans who were anti Al-Qaeda or anti Taliban that would be seeking the bounties, and possibly report innocent people.
@@alakbar7870so the US military would pass and drop flyers all over Afghanistan saying that if you turned in al qaeda members you would get money. A bunch of al qaeda members took the opportunity to pose as concerned citizens and rat out people they found troublesome or just plane innocent while making money to fuel their operations.
@@Boarquake I think it would probably be in the best interest of Al-Qaeda to just keep away from U.S. forces altogether, since they're not Afghan and would be easy to spot, especially with the help of Afghan citizens who were already serving as translators and helpers for U.S. forces. Also, if Al-Qaeda were falsely reporting Afghan citizens, that would then turn that community that they were hiding in, against them, and they would be even more exposed. So it's likely that any false reporting that were being done, were probably by ordinary Afghan citizens against other Afghans. Someone could report a neighbor that they didn't like for instance. But you'd think that the U.S. forces knew that false reporting could be a problem, so they probably did some research and investigation on both the reporters and those being reported before making any arrests. Still yes, even with precautions and measures taken to prevent false reporting and arrests, it's possible that some may've fallen through the cracks.
He speaks pretty good English for learning it in GITMO. I know several folks who have live in the US for 40+ years and still have more broken English than him
I read My Guantanamo Diary by Mahvish Khan and it was eye opening how absurd the U.S. system was to even get these people in Guantanamo. Because of the bounty system put in place by the U.S. in Afghanistan, people would report their families or people who they had a dispute or argument with. I have no doubt there are serious terrorists in Guantanamo, but they deserve a trial just like everyone else, which is even more important because of the innocent people in there. It might just be 1 person in there that is innocent, but I highly doubt it's 0. Holding people without a trial is banana republic shit, I can't believe there are people out there that will defend this practice.
Absolutely and the U.S. likes to think we are better than North Korea or Russia.
Very good summary on your part. But, I would like to add that these '''terrorists''' were created by the USA , who travelled thousands of miles to invade another country, killing millions of innocent people Many of them, including Osama Bin Laden were trained armed and financed by the USA in the earlier proxy war with Russia. Many more were later trained to help overthrow Sadam Hussien. Billions and billions of US taxpayers dollars went into this venture, all the while thousands of US citizens live on the streets. When the US bombs an entire village killing a man's whole family, he feels he has nothing left to live for, so becomes a''' terrorists'''' but to them, they are freedom fighters
Recently a reporter videoed 3 men sitting with handcuffs, if my memory serves me right, it was in Mali. The official told him they were ISIS sympathizers. Later the reporter saw these same 3 men and asked why they were free, they said, '''' no ,no, we were asked to pose for money. Turns some US agents collaborated with the Mali official, who staged this arrest to start negotiations about billion dollar contracts, from the US for weaponry for Mali, which would benefit the USA and corrupt Mali officials
No they dont they are takin in time of war
They're called Trump followers.
Wow. I feel so bad for thinking this guy was making things up to try to force his way out of Serbia, but boy was I wrong. How chilling to discover you're being recorded in your apartment and then to have the goon squad come in to tell you you're going to take it and shut up. How scary. I feel for this dude. If he's guilty, they should've kept him, and if he's not, he should get to live his life. Wonderful piece of journalism. Vice could def learn a thing or 5 from this one.
Seriously? You just now realize that after the long history of stuff like this in the former Eastern Bloc states?
@@kishascape given that I'm not in the Eastern bloc states, yes.
@@kishascape if you would shame someone for not knowing, and you would shame someone for learning, then what exactly do you hope to accomplish?
What is really scary is many of these low level men were in Afghanistan training for Jihad against America & Europe and the Afghan War Lords sold them to the U.S. CIA they even sold Afghan females to the U.S. CIA one she is jailed in Texas. People should really think hard before they travel to join any type war or cause because the likely hood is they will end up just like these poor souls caged in a grey area with no way out and it will likely be for the rest of their lives as the countries they are from don't want them returned and deny them re entry when GitMo tried to release them.
i didnt realize serbia was such a terrorist nation jfc.
Best journalism today. And PBS is the best tv on 📺
I was a guard at the Bagram facility in the early days of the war (2002), we had detainees who were turned in because a feuding family wanted to get rid of them and get paid. They were released after about a month or so, we drove them to Kabul and gave them back to their families. They were just innocent shepherds. We did have high value detainees that were absolutely guilty of terrorism. But some of them were just caught up in the process. I did 3 tours of duty in Afghanistan and it’s a beautiful country with great people.
Thank you Sir for protecting our country the United States of America thank you for your service
@@MM5150LA I’m female
Ok your a female we’re you in the United States military
@@MM5150LAworst possible response 😂 went from a compliment to sexist insult
@@user-fn2et1ge8j typical broad
I trust Frontline more than any other 'news' production. They're a little left, but barely. They do a great job of being objective and just presenting the info.
yes yes the left vs right paradigm. You people are clueless. Go do finger painting or something.
@@Cutlerypotato yes
Gay?
Objective facts are always left leaning.
@@Cutlerypotato who?
Such a brave documentary, so much struggle, so much time on this. Thank you so much Frontline for making it possible and speaking for the oppressed. May God bless you
Frontline never fails with their quality of content.
I think the only reason the US government held onto a lot of these detainees for as long as they did was because of fear of retaliation. But who could blame them for wanting to retaliate after the way we treated them? I’d be furious if I was tortured and imprisoned for 14 years without ever being charged with a crime and then just got dumped in a random county one day.
I definitely agree with this assessment…the US continuing to hold prisoners for fear of retaliation. I know I’d be pretty furious at a govt who detained me for years upon years with absolutely no charges at all (much less a trial). What boggles my mind is how long these prisoners have been held without even having a trial (much less being charged for a crime)! It’s absolute insanity!!
Yes, maybe we do have legitimate 9/11 terrorists in gitmo, but then why not give them a trial already??! I just don’t understand it….
It's sad reality that people judge others based on the bad things that others do, just because of the same race or same nationality. If just we lower down our ego and try and learn to love one another, there will be a better life for everyone.
From what’s well known about this prison is if you are locked up here then you only leave after death. The worst place to be and without and true justice
When your own home country will not take you back that should tell you all you need to know about the type of person they are
I don’t think you followed. The journalist conveyed, "Yemeni detainees are barred from going home due to political instability."
dude is saying there is always a danger and if that is true then why release them?
Jesus.
So the men we took and wrongfully locked up, the torture didn't end there? We released them. Not back to their homes and families, but abroad in strange lands without help or support ?
What the fuck man.
My american guilt is getting to be to much to bare.
2017. I wonder how it looks now. Is Gitmo closed? What happened to these men?
Only front line would attempt to make viewers, feel guilty about some scumbag getting released from prison
I go through a lot by having sickle cell and dealing with the hospital here in Detroit but I couldn't imagine what he is going through i thought I had a story
Have to see this
Great job pbs , when I lived in the US, I loved and supported your professionalism and ethics, I still love your documentaries even when I moved out from the US. You are just the best journalism/channel in the US
Interesting, You ever Check their sources? High Production value doesn't mean truth or bias. Humans are very easily fooled.... I hate both Political Parties but PBS who does Frontline Doc's bias is rather Disgusting....Frontline doesn't even wanna cover the real corruption in D.C., Why is that?
WOKE AF!!!!!👎
Extremely biased too.
@@mr.voodoo9243 Just because someone or the facts disagree with your opinions, it doesn't mean THEY are the biased one.
@B_Bodziak Track history and independent studies show that PBS is actually left leaning bias. So, opinion? That's like saying Fox or CNN are not biased.
Can't tell who the bad guys are. This makes me sad and depressed.
Only half way through to part where dude is ghosting frontline producers… but monsour is def shady and up to shit. There’s a reason servia watching his Like a hawk
So, any significant updates?
I cannot believe these people makes decisions for our country this is horrible these people were involved in the harm of innocent people they deserve the worst and we the tax payer owe them absolutely nothing. Use our money on Americans. We have Muslim Americans and every race you can imagine and they all need help it's their money not the government it's horrible they allow this how much of our money are you spending on these people for no reason wth!!!
guantanamo is our living shame
Goes to show that many of these Gizmo prisoners were never a threat to begin with. Which is why they never prosecuted them.
Which is also why they just abandon them like that.
@@cory8837 Or just people who were training so they could protect their homes from invading forces.
They were just puppets i.e the face of terrorism. We needed an enemy and they were chosen. Information campaign.
@@cory8837doesn’t matter what they were accused of, what they are CONVICTED of is what should decide their fate. Being detained for 14 years without a trial is unacceptable. How good do you think our intel is of a small segment of society on the other side of the world with generational tribal conflicts providing huge incentives for people to lie about their neighbor.
@@Avogadros_numberExactly. I think it's a huge red flag that so many of these detainees were captured by warlords. For example they could use the US as a useful idiot to imprison a rival family's son that might be a future challenge to power.
But most of them didn’t do anything why they were there.
According to a Congressional Hearing on National Security on May 24th, 2016, out of the 606 detainees released from GITMO, 204 have returned to fight.
I'm not surprised. You'll never take the fight out of someone by proving their assumptions correct. You have to prove them wrong if you want them to give up & move on.
Incarceration does not change criminality. Nor if that criminal facility is known internationally for war crimes.
The hearts and minds are changed by diplomacy and off the battlefield. They are not changed with bombs or prison cells.
So they don't "reoffend" as often as US inmates
@@talesfromtheleashexpatdogl1426 Depending on the state, but yeah. Oregon's rate is 13.1% Alaska's is 61.6%. Most of the country is pretty close to the same rate as GITMO, somewhere near the ⅓ mark.
Oh right, and now tell me how they came up with those figures.
Sick to think any government can just lock someone up without charge indefinitely.
Edit: an torcher the person for years .
*Gosh i love frontline making those documentry. i wish they will make Route 66 American Mother Road & Lincoln highway first American automobile road ever in early 20th century!*
Everyone deserves a speedy trial. And what happened to “innocent until proven guilty.”? Is this why it’s in a country other than USA?
.... according to the US constitution but these terrorists are US citizens or are they?
The government needs a scapegoat to calm the citizens from realizing that the government never really cared about the citizens, just the power to rule over them.
People gave that away under the other speedy executive order called the patriot act. People blindly give away their freedoms under the guise of fear.
Gitmo isn't "in the USA" technically...thats why it exists
No duh. Now ask why their country helped capture them and not accept them back.
Wasn't there any rehabilitation while incarcerated in Guanajuato? To hold them illegally for 14 years without charges is a crime against humanity. If these men were such a high risk why couldn't they have been exposed to educational media.... social media... deprogramming specialists. Even if you offered a university education it would have expanded thier minds and perspective.
The U.S. doesn’t rehabilitate its own domestic prisoners. It’s certainly not about to treat foreign prisoners well. I agree it’s a crime, but the entire landscape is bleak.
only in America can you get away with these types of crimes
@@garciabeto760
Rehabilitation? They were abused, tortured mentally and physically. No one was thinking rehab!
@@pamelafeeney8086 I unfortunately know that..I guess I was trying to point out the immense opportunity they missed to really change them because torture didn't.
that was filmed in 2017 and he supposed to stay in serbia two years which means he's should be free by now. i really want to know what happened to him
Important story.
He was twenty years old now he's thirty six my son's age first my second is fifteen incarceration is so complicated on the brain INCLUDING psychiatric hospitals you are jailed in your mind.
Excellent journalism, not everyone is guilty
Do you mean innocent until proven guilty? no wait! thats racist! isn't it?
Terrorist stan.. Defending TERRORISTS???!!!!🤦♀️🙄
Sadly I don't know if he will ever see his mother again. 😔 😢 🙏
We are more concerned with these mens welfare than we are with our own poor. Seems no one knows what to do with them.
Absolutely disgusting the way he was treated. How do you put someone in a country that he doesn't even speak the language of, and then put cameras in his room and send people to harass him - and then claim that you are being "fair"?
That man is a terrorist. That man blew up Americans, women & children. That man will burn in hell. Will join him!!
They shouldve thought about that before they behaved the way they did. Let him continue his "hunger strike"
@@assasin244 If they didn't want to release him they should have not released it. If they decide to acquit him, he shouldn't be treated like a criminal and it shouldn't be made impossible for him to thrive in society.
@@assasin244should've thought about that before.... What? He wasn't convicted of anything. And if you knew anything about Afghanistan at the beginning of the invasion, you'd know that many people were, as he said, sold by village leaders, or given up through false confessions as a result of the torture we committed in interrogations. There's a very real chance this man did nothing more than you and I and has paid a price that can never be undone. Your callous words and lack of empathy are really striking. I'm sure your conservative redneck buddies think it's great. Some small wonder you even managed to click on a documentary style piece and not on some compilation of beer ads and monster trucks. Just wow.
stupid coments.He is prisoner
It’s time we close this internationally recognized facility of war crimes, violations of international law, and human rights. If you cannot charge them with a crime, you cannot lock them up. You certainly can not torture them.
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Mother Effer should be brought to the US. Speaks like an American
Seriously. He'll fit right in. Speaks it at the native level.
@@DonnellOkafor0304 he's welcome, they take anything
29:07 “We can’t force people to make good life choices, we can only “encourage” them……”
Please elaborate on the methods of encouragement.
Thank Yew.
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If they were killed on the battlefield, like they tried to kill Americans and civilians, it would've been a non issue. These folks are not innocent. We seem to forget the horrible deeds done by these folks.
While I used to be able to say something and have it mean anything, the approach taken the last decade stripped me of an effective voice. I appreciate a handful of men impacted by this responding if they can. Translating my words if you will in a much more strategic and effective manner. I need to move on.
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Now there’s plenty a room for new inmates . Jack Smith, can you fill these cells?
It’s very sad that people especially a 20 year old is held for almost half his entire life in prison without any charges. That’s why so many people around the world are frustrated with illegal justice with no hope to get a free trial . Let them know that there is a day when there’s no shade except the shade of the Almighty and the judge of all the judges will deal with this evil doers everywhere.
If they didn't hate the US before, they probably do now.
U can tell his body aged not 15 years but an extra 20 years out anxiety and stress!
At 28:55 you can tell he was thinking” why didn’t anyone brief me on this shit”
The idea that completely innocent individuals, anywhere in the world, can be arrested without charge and shlepped off to the transatlantic plantation colony, that the world knows as America, is a nightmare worse than any terrorist attack.
This is such a difficult subject, and I am glad the reporter was picking up the dodgy, escalating vibes from Monsour, doesn't appear to be the honest type. It's telling they didn't cut the "who's paying for the dudes hotel room?" conversation.
I hope the other guy in Serbia is getting on with his life, even if it's not the best of situations, it's still a million times better than sitting in Gitmo.
I have zero positive feelings towards Serbia, but I can't see how they can make things better for anyone by talking to the TV. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they are actively gagged by the US. On the other hand, the serbian authorities, being provoked by this guy or not, didn't present themselves all too well. But hey, it's Serbia, Russia's best buddy, so not too unexpected.
The whole Gitmo situation was already such a poor choice of policy, and forcing foreign, non-native governments taking those prisoners off the US hands has taken this sh*tshow to an entirely new level.
Serbia is def not the biggest Russia “best buddy”. That’s ridiculous statement right there. Serbia has its own shit it’s been dealing with for decades with Bosnia and BiH.
Good video about a subject we all should be aware of and concerned about. We know from our own failed “rehabilitation” of prisoners that releasing men who have in the very least questionable morality and motivations, without support or even a basic plan to live differently than the way of life that brought them into the prison system has a failure rate so great it should be embarrassing. Now add isolation and seething anger into the mix and you have a dangerous person who has a reason to hate. After we have all witnessed the utter failure of, what some would call, our coordinated withdrawal but I would call immediate surrender in Afghanistan, nobody should be surprised at the results of a rushed plan for the sole purpose of gaining immediate political capital without regard of the benefits or harm to the people of the United States or our“allies”. The importance of security is too great to be put in the hands of power hungry politicians who will sacrifice everything and anyone for their personal or Party benefit. Our government has developed a predictably terrible education system that, by design, keeps our population ignorant of the responsibilities plainly spelled out like a simple road map in our founding documents and debates of the citizens responsibility to control our own government so the natural tendency of those who gain power do not become tyrannical towards the people. This wonderful experiment of this Republic is on the very real edge of failure.
I used to say 85, was a good age to go home, only if i still have all my faculties & still be able to do a few things. Gor myself. I wouldn't mind a home attendant, to help along the way.
But, if I'm not in my right mind, cannot hold my bodily functions, or any of the other things that plaque the elderly, I doubt sincerely that I'd want to marinate, in any of that.
This was a good program. I've always loved Frontline, but rather heartwrenching.
Now I’m very curious to know about what have happened to Manzo years after this interview, does anybody know???🤔
He said the more I say the more I get accused of lying. But indirectly!
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Better to let many innocent people languish in prison with no charges, no information, and no prosepects for release, than let another terrorist attack occur. That was the calculation and in the aftermath of 911, people didn't ask too many questions. Hard not to feel for Mr. Mansoor. If he's innocent it's an utter disgrace and a crime against humanity.
Always video. Always
I have no dog in the fight but this is BS how can you say You release a prisoner that you held for almost 17 years without charges yet not allowing him to go home. Which we all have enough sense to know none of them were released without being electronically tracked🥴❓
Yeah they gotta add trackers for these high risk JIHADI BOMBERS. I bet this video is gonna backfire where these JIHADI'S will all of a sudden want to bomb shit.
@@cory8837why don't you sit yo azz down 🤡
What he's wanting isn't too much to ask for. It's a basic human right, what he's asking for, in my opinion.
Jeez I was there. This could have been filmed during my stint there. We had a few news crews go through.
as a prisoner or a war criminal?
Yea none of them are bad their all innocent 🙄
American democracy at its best !!! Let's not forget abygrey and all the other prisons
There is no American democracy 😂😂😂
@@HealthyChoices-bh3ew Our democracy has been warped over several decades, slowly but surely.
Guantanamo bay has a gift shop that sells “straight outta gitmo” hats and “gitmo” minion t shirts btw, just found it interesting. Would cop ngl
He was being trained at an Al queda training camp. He will always be a threat.
To hold somebody for 14yrs and not charge them probably isn’t legal. I wish we would have released him earlier if he did nothing wrong
I AGREE WITH YOU SIR
“I don’t know why I am here. I’ve not done anything wrong “. Yes, no. Can’t believe a thing he says.
poor guy,if i was him i would say fuck it and find a smuggler to get him to where he wants to be
I don’t understand why he was constantly interrogated & doubted by a film crew. The same crew who were immediately pulled over by Special Police after leaving his home.
He didn't know why he was there? Wow that is precious.
Why do they keeping posting videos that already been posted
Super disrespectful he basically begged you not to contact him and you hire a private investigator
😮Why did you not comply with his wishes?he did Not want to be contacted again. but they did not have the respect to follow his wishes.
So this guy says he is dangerous and promises to never do anything yea right, and then is surprised when the police is watching him
This so so sad and the first time I’m even hearing about this.. I knew our government was dirty but like who knew it got this bad. This is just insane. The soldier who literally ran all of this is psychotic and shouldn’t be allowed to see light of day.
Lol you think this bad?
@@whatwillyoudiefor7774 tell me more