Vatican Leak! LATIN MASS BAN coming soon. What to do to survive the storm!
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- The Latin Mass Ban is coming? Why is God allowing this? What should I do? Find out the answers.
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If there is not an SSPX chapel near you, please go to your closest Latin Mass, just be aware that sometimes (not all the time), the preaching could have questionable elements due to the modern seminary training. One must understand that the crisis is not just a liturgical one, but a doctrinal one, rooted in the modern errors.
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The Traditional Latin Mass is the most beautiful thing this side of Heaven.
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The first time I attended the TLM, I thought I was in Heaven! ✝ 🌹
Yes
TRUE.
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ST. MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL WITH THY SWORD, DEFEND & PROTECT US AGAINST ALL EVILS, HERESIES, CONFUSIONS, DECEPTIONS, LIES & ERRORS. AMEN
i do enjoy listening to SSPX compline at night while praying the Rosary.
If you pray the Rosary daily you'll find it impossible to watch any pornography as the Holy Spirit will eat you up with guilt.
I wish that was true
@hamie7624 I am free now. It took 4 years of Rosaries daily until the desire was squashed.
What do you insinuate by your reply?
OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE, PRAY FOR US. AMEN
If the diocesan TLM in SATX is cancelled, the SSPX chapel is going to get really packed.
That chapel is small in SATX.
@@rubenmartinez4346 Eventually the diocesan churches will be empty, as the Faithful turn their backs on the Novus Ordo Mass and the Bergoglio Church. The SSPX will then be able to buy the empty churches.
@@PosenMarkt91If they allow churches to be sold to SSPX rather than sold to Protestants or other faiths or secular world.
@@PosenMarkt91Look a schismatic, so much for obedience
@@PosenMarkt91so far they won’t sell the church’s to the sspx. They’ve been trying. It’s part of this whole plan🛐🛐🛐
Our Lady of Sorrows SSPX in Phoenix is seeing an influx since the banning of the TLM news broke out.
@@mpkropf5062 When did he say that?
If the TLM is cancelled, get the catacombs ready.
Yes, that’s correct and that’s why we know it is the church because it is being sent to catacombs.
lol
Eastern divine liturgy for this guy if it happens.
@@Saiyan585 leaving the church is not the answer
It’s actually not a bad idea, probably there will be an underground church that will continue the Holy Sacrifice of de TLM.
I need to have abundant gratitude that I live 10 minutes from an FSSP church. God be praised and prayers for the TLM and to my brothers and sisters who are not as fortunate. I pray that good will triumph in the end 🙏
Same, except it’s 20 minutes from me. Confession and mass everyday and sometimes multiple times a day too, just so blessed.
ST. MAXIMILIAN MARIA KOLBE, PRAY FOR US. AMEN
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He would stay with the Pope. Sorry, you got the wrong saint. Maybe pray to Palamas. He'd agree with you guys.
Je suis en train de lire sa vie.... Une lumière d'amour ce Saint. Oui il nous aide.❤
Hello Nick 👋 I hope the FSSP and ICK will be safe. Can't wait for the July 1st video, I know it will be awesome! God bless you ❤
Fssp will be safe. Pope has already met with them and blessed their work. The Vatican only wants to ban schismatic tlm, so the people return to actual parishes in communion with the See of Peter
No one liturgical rite or priestly fraternity will be safe. They want totalitarian NO, no matter who they have to steamroll in the process.
ST. ANTHONY OF PADUA HAMMER OF HERESY, PRAY FOR US. AMEN
🙏AMEN, AMEN,AMEN!!!
Yeah, he'd stay faithful to the Magiaterium, not rogue retired and discredited Cardinals. You got the wrong saint, try Palamas. He's more aligned with you folks.
He's also the hammer of schismatics.
MARY OUR HOPE SEAT OF WISDOM, PRAY FOR US. AMEN
I converted to Catholicism 2 years ago. Mostly because I wanted to go to Church and I had never been comfortable in a Protestant church even though I believed in God and had read the bible from a young age. Somehow I stumbled across the Latin Mass in my city and I knew I had found the type of reverend worship I had been looking for. Our Archbishop removed a dedicated and holy priest from our church early this year who he saw as troublesome. That and the incremental restrictions on the TLM have been disheartening to say the least.. I recently made the mistake of going to confession outside my TLM church which is the only place I have made confessions since being baptised, and the only place I felt comfortable making confessions. I had not been to confession for 6 weeks and decided to do it at the local NO. I was shocked when the priest told me that they try to discourage people from making confessions until at least 3 months have passed so that parishioners can work on amending their sins. I will never make another confession at this church and it confirmed my gut instinct to make all my confessions( bar that one time) at my TLM church. Banning the TLM would be a travesty and the most hurtful thing Pope Francis could do to faithful Catholics who wish to celebrate the liturgy in the old rite.
"The persecutions which the evil enemy has stirred up at various times against the Most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass are a proof how sacred a thing it must be."
-- Fr. Martin von Cochein
Fantastic!! Nick your teachings are always solid!! In God we Trust. 🙏❤️
Thanks be to God for the SSPX. God bless you Nicholas, incredible video!
In my area, it is apparent that private Latin Masses are already being organized in residences.
Thank you for your insight. Can't imagine a world without TLM. We attend an ICKSP mass.
CHRISTUS VINCIT! CHRISTUS REGNAT! CHRISTUS IMPERAT!
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SSPX, ICKSP and Byzantine are all within a somewhat reasonable drive for me. My first choice is ICKSP. I must admit though that I find the crowd intimidating and I fear that I'm not up to snuff and that my defenses will go up and will interfere with my ability to pray and focus. This is all kinda heart breaking and exhausting. I'm quite comfortable where I am. Trying not to let this get me too angry or to despair.
Defenses against who or what? You needn’t prove anything to ICKSP or somehow be validated by them? Just go to the Mass and the Sacraments.
First, pray for and protect your Priest. Do not brag about the location of your catacomb. Accept that This will be much harder on him than it will be on you.
Phenomenal job. Thank you. Well said. God be with you.
Pope Francis is not banning the Latin Mass for the FSSP and Christ the King churches
Hi Nick, thank you 😊
Thank you
I feel bad. As far as giving worship to God, the TLM is to me what I'd searched for all my life. I was 57 when I discovered and attended my very first diocesan TLM in 2019. And now it appears the Pope wants to take it from me. Very troubling.
Sacramento Ca has a FSSP parish. St. Stephen the first martyr.
QUO PRIMUM - Not even a real pope can overturn the offering of the TLM since PIUS V declared it lawful in perpetuity!
I attend a diocesan tlm half an hour away. I'm a tenant farmer and pretty much broke, so not able to move. I don't even own a car, my only vehicles are commercial 5 ton trucks one is 25 years old and other is 60 years old, and the closest sspx place is like a 6 hour round trip on the other side of Toronto past like 4 MTO (DOT) inspection scales. which I'm required to stop at if they are open. I left the NO world in 2013 for an Ordinariate parish, then ended up drifting away and just resumed last year active practice of my faith at the tlm. Now what...?
Just wait and see what happens your diocesan priest should at least give you a game plan on what to do.
Talk to your priest man, they will know what to do better than all of us. Stay healthy and for now, pray.
It’s good to remember that most Saints were persecuted by the church in their time.
"We have to expect that we will be persecuted, but let us not flag in our faith, let us not be weak. Let us be firm, like all those who have given us an example and who have gone before us, whether in the Old or the New Testament.
The action that you personally carry out, each one of you in your family, by your attitude as true Christians, as true Catholics, by keeping that faith that was taught to you in your childhood by true priests, by holy bishops, will bear fruit, and it bears fruit already. Our kind mother in Heaven has conquered all heresies, all errors. So she will not fail to vanquish the modern errors that have penetrated even within the Church, and she will give the victory to her divine Son, our Lord Jesus Christ."
~ Archbishop Lefebvre
Well, the SSPX will still continue to say the Latin Tridentine Mass, and Bergoglio AKA Pope Francis better repent to God because the Novus Ordo is not the true mass.
"Novus Ordo is not the true mass" - that's the ideology that made Pope Francis restrict Latin Mass. Don't blame the Pope, blame yourself
@@CatholicSaintsAndAngels Yep exactly. Most NO attendees like myself have no problem with the tradition and heritage of the Latin Mass, it was the hijacking of this beautiful Mass by these demented crackpots who decided that Pope Francis was a "imposter" Pope that basically destroyed the goodwill Benedict XVI had worked on with the SSPX.
GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES WE AS AMERICAN TRADITIONAL CATHOLICS SHOULD TURN OUR BACKS ON THE VATICAN
Thank u
What about a Maronite Catholic Church? There are no TML parishes where I live, but there's a Maronite Catholic Church.
They tend to be somewhat modernistic, but why not pay a visit?
Thank you, Nick. Some of us have been crying in the vast wilderness for 40 years with no traditional liturgy in our reach, western or eastern. We have nonetheless been able to increase our faith via study of the Bible, the Catechism of Trent, the rosary and Divinum Officium.
Nick what’s the chant in the intro it’s awesome! Love your input avoiding Babylon. Best Catholic show there is
Archbishop Lefebvre ora pro Nobis ❤️
I am blessed to have found you. I am 75 in an area of the US where, once my one TLM gets cancelled I have no option. I am alone, have health issues, limited retirement. Not everyone cab move, maybe they shouldn't , maybe we need to stay to preserve the faith locally. Look at places like Japan, Ireland. I have increased my prayers and penances and more and more sense, that this is a preparation for martyrdom. I might have to go to the best NO I can find without Holy Communion and pray the trad, Mess offering it to God with tears, because this is all I can do. It can also be a perfect occasion for instructing the ignorant, of being a witness. In my case it is twice as bad, because the US is not my native country - the earth is truly my place of exile, I long to go home.
The TLM has been with the Church since Our Lord Jesus created his Church.
I am sure Our Lord Jesus is not very happy with the present situation.
Actually the TLM developed in the early Middle Ages. The earliest liturgy was that of St James. The liturgies of St Basil and St John Chrysostom are close.
VIVA CRISTO REY! VIVA! VIVA! VIVA!
¡¡¡ QUE VIVA !!! ❤️🔥👑❤️🔥
So much division within the church. I attend the NO but love the Tridentine with the SSPX and attend more of the Latin.
I’m about to move to another city and was disappointed not to see an SSPX chapel in that area.
Rather sad we have to endure these times, I guess that’s our cross.
Keep praying.
Could we please have a link to the version of Congaudeant Catholici you use? Thanks.
I was somewhat apprehensive when I saw that the Superior-General of the Institute of Christ the King was at the Vatican.
I was relieved to read a statement from the ICKSP that the meeting went well and that the Holy Father was encouraging them to continue to follow their charism.
It's nice to get some good news.
By the way I was looking to finish watching your video -The New Mass: History and Doctrine Exposed - but it is now marked Private. Do I have to be Patreon subscriber to view it?
I came into a traditional parish and they were divided and fighting, everywhere I turn to see people whet her they are catholics or no, they fight and they have soverb, (my phone is wrong) anyway, that is the mother of all sins. So get clean, do charity, hard charity, real charity, don’t escatimate, just do it.
I’m not able to understand some of your words. What’s “soverb” and “escatimate”? But if people fight, you just don’t participate. Arrive, hear Mass, receive the Sacraments, leave. You’re there to see Our Lord, not socialize with people who lack charity. If someone tries to draw you into a fight, be forthright in saying politely, but with decisiveness, you’ll not be socializing, but praying. Walk quickly away to a pew or out the door to leave.
You don’t see the fighting at the NO and even on Utube it’s the Traditional that are fighting because they don’t want to be obedient to the Pope ( which seems is from the devil).
As always, Nicholas Cavazo on point and straight on the dot
Bad priests are not Gods judgement and wrath. They come from free will. We have free will. God Won't interfere with that. When people ask "Why would God allow such and such evil to occur"? It's because of free will. If God stopped man from committing evil them we don't have free will. WE have to stop people from committing evil. We do not have to allow it. We can act. We need to stop these things. God can help but we have to do the work. God won't do it for us.
The Church has been infiltrated by corruption. And not just the Catholic Church. Other churches and religions have been corrupted too. The bad priests are corrupted. And all this stems from people choosing to do evil. Evil is the easy path.
MOST EVIDENT MARK of God’s anger and the most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world are manifested when He permits His people to fall into the hands of clercs’ who are priests more in name than in deed, priests who practice the cruelty of ravening wolves rather than the charity and affection of devoted shepherds. When God permits such things, it is a very positive proof that He is thoroughly angry with His people, and is visiting His most dreadful anger upon them. That is why He cries unceasingly to Christians, “Return, O ye revolting children . . . and I will give you pastors according to my own heart” (Jer. 3, 14-15).
- St. John Eudes
Stay with the one holy Catholic and apostolic church! Don’t give up on gods true church!! He will will be with us until the end of time!!
Is relative,most time sin of man befall evil to him,the priests has choices to make,even the pope and bishops,but the evil and corrupt society, family,and marriages,beget these people,who serve us.
Not so much as chastisement, but a purification. I think God is removing the middle ground and one will have to choose sides. God knows how to separate the just from the unjust. We must eat the good bread, with the good liturgy, namely the TLM as well as traditional doctrine.
The Church will not defect from the faith.
I still wonder about the credibility of these rumors.
did you see that Diane Montaga reported on it ? She's always spot on accurate
I trust her reporting but I don't trust that the leak came from where she thinks it did.
Because the rumor is false and is simply the people who hijacked the TLM flailing following the recent meeting Pope Francis had. They gleefully hoped he WOULD suppress the TLM so they could become martyrs for their cause, when he did not they had to switch tactics to keep the paranoid and narcissistic vision they have of themselves afloat.
They aren't rumors! Diane has seen the document!
@@tmoore421 She has seen a document.
Seems like news regarding the upcoming ban has kind of dried up in the last week. Wonder if it is coming down the pipeline.
‼️ real question. ‼️ Isnt the priest supposed to read the gospel? I was at my pretty traditional NO and the priest had a female lector stay and read the gospel. I was shocked and i think she was.
That's when I get up and walk out
Yes if I’m not mistaken, in the TLM, you have to at least be a deacon to proclaim the Gospel (I’ve only seen it done in Holy Week so I don’t know off the top of my head).
@@jessecoffins8832 Yes, and any ordained priest can act in the Deacon spot. A lay person CANNOT read the gospel during mass. If you want to do a Bible study with other lay people in your homes, then that’s when you can read the gospel.
Just more NO nonsense
It's the gay bishops and this Pope who should have the wrath of God fall on them not the helpless laity.
The Bergoglio papacy is in its death-throes, and Bergoglio himself is thrashing about and lashing out against those he sees as his enemies.
Stop spreading lies about the Pope! When you stand before Jesus you will have to give account for not obeying The Pope, successor of St Peter who Jesus directs! Pray for your soul for going against the Holy Father!
God is not allowing this to happen, a terribly weak parishioner base certainly is!
We have eastern rites, Byzantine, etc.
Those aren’t available everywhere I think there’s a Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, where I live, but I think they only have their liturgy one Sunday a month so I’m blessed to have the FSSP. Driving to Saint Marys, Kansas, where the SSPX have the Immaculata is not possible (I don’t drive and it’s three hours one-way. Moving is not possible because all my family, including those who drive me places, for the most part, live in Nebraska)
@@elizabethv_royalsfanthe TLM isn't readily available as well. Where I live, the closest FSSP mass is 4 1/2 hours away. The SSPX is roughly 3 hours away. The closest diocesan TLM is only on Fridays and close to 2 hours away. So unfortunately we are stuck with only the NO.
Supposedly, Francis will be coming for the Eastern Rites as well.
@@fr.michael9213 No he won't. Stop with the oppression narrative.
@@elizabethv_royalsfanGod doesn’t command the impossible. Most Catholics are not Nick! Young, single, in good health, technology proficient, able to step back and train for another career. Many of us are old, married, or with family ties on which we are dependent, work and educationally decades out of date, (nobody’s giving us a loan!) unable by old age and/or health, unable to move. In which case, if by some odd grace, you have a very conservative novus ordo and a priest who knows, practices, teaches, the true faith, remain and support. If not, practice what you can of the Catholic Faith on your own. That which is not possible, let it go. God doesn’t require the impossible.
16:53 while I agree that we are not forced to attend a scandalous Liturgy yet the idea that Catholics are universally dispensed from Sunday Obligation if they only have a Novus Ordo around them that would make it so that 98% of Catholics are dispensed from their Sunday obligation that just does not bode well or really work at all. I agree the liturgical reform was a disaster yet I do not hold to the view that Catholics are automatically dispensed from attending mass on Sunday if they only have the NO available to them.
Nick is correct. You're welcome to your opinion. I don't share it. I've seen enough of the scandalous practices and preaching of NO priests the last 40 years. Do you also take the eucharist in your hand from some random "eucharistic minister"? Women prancing around by the altar. Ancient prayers, wording being changed - REPEATEDLY. Dad jokes instead of a homily on repentance and how to avoid sin. Sinfully inadequate catechesis. Nobody going to confession but trotting themselves up the aisle to receive the eucharist without fail. Enough already. Disgusting.
Minute 9:10:
I am really shocked!!!!! Do I deserve forgiveness???!!!!!! Are you serious??!!!!!
Yes, if I have contrition in confession, I do!!!! If I am TRYING to be faithful, then I do!!!!! If I am fighting, but then I fail, I do!!!!!
How many times does God forgive, when someone asks for forgiveness earnestly, dear traditional Thomist??? 10 times, 20 times...70 times 7? And what does the last number mean??!!!!
Didn’t Paul change everything from the original apostles just a few years after the death of Christ? Talking about the Jewish rules and the Gentiles. The Paul that did not know Jesus in person. Seems like the church is always changing. Even during the lives of the apostles. It’s people seem to think they know better the further away they get from their prophet. Just wondering about feedback on such comments, not trying to be hostile.
Rubbish. St. Paul met Christ.
@@user-xk9it5uy1j I thought it was not while christ was alive. Do I have it wrong? He came as a light in a vision. Also he came into conflict with the other original apostles at the “incident in Antioch” ,over how the church was to approach old Jewish law and if the gentiles needed to follow them. Do I have it wrong? A quick google search seems to corroborate that. Search Paul the apostle on Wikipedia and it opens with saying that he did not know Christ while he was alive. He also used to persecute Christian’s so I think Christ had to die before, so that Christians did exist for him to persecute. He was not an original apostle and he seemed to change what the original apostles started with, regarding their approach to Jewish law. Didn’t Jesus himself say he was not here to change the law but to fulfill it? Paul later says Jesus told him in a vision the opposite. Please let me know if I got it wrong.
@@BrownBessOwner you have it wrong. Christ has been alive since the resurrection and spoke to Paul on the road to Damascus. Paul rebuked Peter who conceded he had been wrong in trying to hold onto the Mosaic Law that had been superseded by the New Covenant in Christ and was abrogated.
Serious question!
I’m an extremely conservative Anglican. I consider myself Catholic. But I heard another trad youtuber (Kennedy Hall I think) say that Protestants don’t have the Holy Spirit because you can only be granted Gods spirit in the Catholic Church.
Is that the classic RC view? If so, how would one answer someone like me who is living a changed life, free of many different sins and changed completely as a Protestant seemingly due to my fidelity to the triune God?
You mentioned moving closer to an SSPX Chapel - but not FSSP or ICKS ?
What are the chances that the Fraternity and Institute will be allowed to add apostolates ?
And - do you think any Bishops will ignore this dictate ?
Ban Francis. Ban donations, respond with your wallet.
Remember God
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Is your intro polyphony?
Would a good idea be to make a token tithing at your NO parish and send the rest to the FSSP?
Wollup! Mikey Loston said that TLM ain't gonna be banned. With all information available I am confused cuz it doesn't compute. Whatever traditionalist and popesplainer are saying is completely different! Can anyone elaborate?
Traditionalists always twist everything the Pope says so I would get it from the Pope himself! Pope Francis did say he WILL NOT ban the Latin Mass!!
Here in Hungary there is the Norbertine Order of O Pream. Will they still serve the Latin mass?
Not banned, just restricted.
MHFM was right 20+ years ago.
Genuine question, what is your degree in, to what level did you study (Bachelors. Masters, Doctorate, etc), and where did you study Catholic theology, if you did?
Masters in Dogmatic Theology from Holy Apostles College and Seminary, working on getting a PHD in the same. Going also through a seven year clerical study (not to be a priest) with a Traditional Dominican priest.
I want to be a Sedevacantist because of a heretic named Bergoglio.
Is this a fulfilment of " he will cause oblation to cease"?😮 Just a thought 🤔
So I can dispense with my Sunday obligation by claiming the NO is scandalous? Even though the Vatican wouldn't agree with that assessment in 100 years?
Perhaps. If there is an Eastern Orthodox liturgy within reach, perhaps you should take a look at it.
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Does it satisfy God?
@@mpkropf5062
If you impose obligations to attend liturgy people then you yourself have obligations to provide a worthy liturgy that follow the rules for celebration of that liturgy. The initial failure is the clergy's. They have broken the contract.
The laity are implicitly released from the obligation. It is not good for people to come out of Mass feeing angry due to the liturgical abuse that is so widespread as to be almost universal.
I have attended Masses where I had to check the notice board to be sure that it was not a Protestant church - that was in Germany. Things are not much better in other countries.
Can you please quote chapter and verse regarding SSPX?
@@physiocrat7143 You can find it in your own research. The Church has said that the SSPX doesn’t qualify as it’s not in full communion with the Catholic Church. However, Pope Francis did approve Confessions through them but not the Eucharist. If people walk away from Mass angry they have a serious heart problem and don’t believe in the Real Presence of Jesus in the Mass! Mass is a great blessing and so is the Liturgy! There aren’t signs hung it’s Catholic or Protestant! Lol But when you walk into a Sanctuary you can easily see when it’s a Catholic Church! One thing I notice on a lot of TLM’s they have real heart issues for instance how they receive the Eucharist which is one of the reasons the Vatican 2 was needed but they don’t know that it was given in the hands in the very beginning and Jesus didn’t give it in the mouth! However, either way can be given and Jesus does care more about the heart than the outward appearance of how it’s taken! I can definitely see the TLM breaking away from the True Catholic and Apostolic Church and appear to be a cult.
@@mpkropf5062
If the Pope promulgates heresy, for example, by imposing a deficient liturgy, what happens to the obligation to be obedient?
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is it to far a stretch to accuse Francis of being a Protestant?
@@mpkropf5062 Catholics are the original Protestants as they broke away from the whole of the Orthodoxy in 1054 during the Great Schism. They have been in a state of decay ever since. The fact that you think Jesus chose Francis only proves my point.
@@JukeBoxDestroyer Orthodox and Catholic were the One Church. Technically they are both Catholic as they split in half! The RCC is NOT anywhere close to Protestant. Protestant means protesting against the Catholic Church! Orthodox actually doesn’t accept the Papacy and the Trinity so in that they have removed themselves from the name Catholic. The Catholic Church was Catholic before 1054 and has remained Catholic! I never heard such a insane statement that they broke away from Protestants! Protestant wasn’t till Luther broke from the Catholic Church in the late 1500’s! Actually there were others who broke from the Catholic Church before the Orthodox movement. The Papacy, the Pope and Magisterium are all from Jesus through successor of St Peter which is another thing that the Orthodox broke away from. Praying you return so there can be the One True Catholic and Apostolic Church and Jesus and Mother Mary would want that.
@@mpkropf5062 nice mental gymnastics you got there. lol
I don't know if Denver has any Trad diocesan priests
I am in an FSSP parish.
Not sure about the diocesan level but Denver also has St. Isidore (SSPX) and Our Lady of the Snow (CMRI) as well as Holy Protection of the Mother of God (Byzantine rite)
@@christopherpavesi7245 So we have no diocesan Trad priests
we are allowed to go to the sspx masses but there hierarchy is way out of wack. shame that it has come to this for a lot of us
Like President Biden, inaction is many times better than what action these "leaders" take. Wrong direction.
In my opinión, grupos of bishops, not one of two should simple ignore such a decree.
This pope has literally spent all his energy befriending the sinful world, and destroying the things the laity love since he came. I pray for a new pope, in whatever way necessary. What a disaster and I hope he repents and snaps out of it. But that looks unlikely.
@@mpkropf5062 i never said i don't submit to him, so as he does not direct me to sin or go against already established Catholic teachings ... like blessing sin or minimizing sexual perversion.
Has Francis demonstrated that the claim that the Pope is the successor of Peter has been false and that the Roman interpretation of Matthew 16:18 has been wrong all along?
At a local level the practical solution for many would be to find an Eastern Orthodox or Greek Catholic parish. However, the Eastern rites are also under attack; they may be on borrowed time, which leaves the EO.
There is an old tradition that Moscow is the Third Rome, and Russia is being converted, Putin notwithstanding.
Just go schismatic to "protect" yourself from it.
The Tridentine Mass was universal. You could attend Mass anywhere in the world and not understand the liturgy.
What are you talking about not understanding? We understood. It's called a "Missal". Latin on one side, English on the other. Latin was also taught in high school.
Maybe y'all should start blaming the trads who would rather skip Sunday obligation than join the peasants in a normal Mass.
What is normal?
They are then choosing to committing a mortal sin which is very dangerous for their souls!
What if my priest is forced to stop doing TLM?
Forced?? Are they going to hold him down on the ground? We will see the sheep and the goats separated now, will we not?
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Didn’t the book of Daniel describe the antichrist as demolishing the daily (everlasting) sacrifice?
He did! However I don't think this would apply to Pope Francis. He wants to highly regulate it, rather than it be abolished. I do believe the next Pope will overturn this.
Time to go to catacombs, just obey to heaven, don’t give ideas to heaven. Just obey.
You aren’t obeying heaven if you go against the Pope, the successor of St Peter from Jesus!
I am a Catholic priest and I don’t say the Old Rite but I am mystified why this is all happening. My observation is that in the West the most devout believers are those who attend the Old Rite….so why the animus against it? I am confused!,
Francis & those who have the most influence on him believe the TLM does not represent the ecclesiology of the "Synodal" Church. Some have said so in public.
So...
You are saying, if I understand correctly:
A true baptist believer, who becomes a Catholic and testifies, that he was a true believer in Christ as a baptist, goes to hell when he doesn't become a Catholic? So, no invincible ignorance? That's not a real thing?
The Church under Vatican 2 would not say that. Get your information from your local Priest and not from Trads on Utube who are against the Pope! They are being disobedient.
“Storm” smh
I'm really hoping this is just gossip and rumors.
@@mpkropf5062 I have to agree with you. I want to and have to trust rome. If not, I'd be protestant.
Bannig Latin Mass is illegal. Just don't listen excommunicated bishops in Rome.
No big surprise that TLM and worship of Trump goes hand in hand.
Strawman argument. Try better to critique your opponent.
I want to apologize for my tone.
I disagree with you, but my tone was bad. I am sorry...
I don't know about this Pope..just look at his face 😢
But I thought he approved it yesterday according to that Michael Lofton clown.
This woke pope gonna go broke in all ways imaginable. BTW: the recent Francis-Biden forehead merger was so symbolic and FUNNY as all get out.
You talking against Jesus Christ and His Church! Jesus appointed Pope Francis under the successor of St Peter! Disobedience to Pope Francis is a serious sin when it’s in accordance with the Catechism of the Catholic Church!
Its not banned..its approved..this is what happens when you spread rumour and not have all the facts
Maybe you all should try the virtue of obedience for once? Instead of rebelling like protestants. Stop Idolizing a religious rite. You know that there has been changes in the past. How do you not see there is two sides to the apostasy and you are apart of the "right" side...
Maybe you should stop giving way to rash judgment and false accusations. If you had watched my work, or read any reputable traditionalist author, you would know that your statements are not just strawman, but idiotic. Go back to your drawing board.
Skip the wishy washy sspx and just go sedevacantist. At least they're consistent. Every sede i know went sspx first, may as well skip the middle man.
Wait are you really telling people to stop going to mass altogether if they cant find a TLM near them? You want people to not eat the Eucharist?
"I am telling you: if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you will not have life in you"
He’s telling people to commit a mortal sin! All Catholics should not watch this guy! He’s a false prophet!