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Matter is a Way of Seeing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2024
- A conversation about the relationship between Consciousness and objects.
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I absolutely love Rupert’s pointing! Thank God for him
"Matter is a way of seeing....not something that is seen." Perfectly Clear!! Thank you Rupert!!
Cheryl Shortridge Matter is illumined by mind in the backdrop of awareness....but does that mean, matter is not there.? how can that be?
It is there. But it's not different than non matter. It's all made of the same stuff on the subatomic level. So in another way it's not there.
+Thathvam Isi.
The Quantum physicists say the same, scientifically like.
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It was God's infinite being seeing God's infinite being! I and the Father are one, this is what Jesus meant when he says that." The Father is in me, and I in the Father."
"What he saw was God's infinite being, and it was God's infinite being that saw God's infinite being." My Dear Rupert that is perfectly clear and lovely. Thank you.
Exquisite. Thanks dear Rupert. Your TH-cams are such world treasures. See you in California in 5 weeks at Mercy Center retreat
All Love, Margo
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Here's an excerpt I copied down:
Consciousness localises itself as the finite mind in order to experience something that seems to be other than itself called a world made out of matter. But in fact the world that is made out of apparent matter that it is experiencing through your finite mind - both your finite mind, the subject, and the object that it experiences is made out of the same consciousness. There are only two separate substances from the point of view of the separate self, the finite mind. In other words, duality only comes into apparent existence when consciousness overlooks the knowing of its own being and localises itself in and as a body.
maybe that's true. maybe not. It's just another model to explain what no one can possibly know for sure. I like it though.
Science is starting to prove non duality tho...
@@darrenfromla I think his point though, is that we as a society automatically presume one of the models is true that is absolutely not our experience. Why would we choose a model that is based on a presumption that nobody has ever experienced? It would be much better to start from the position of direct experience and build a model from there... Then maybe make a theory that matter MAY exist outside of consciousness. Right now we fundamentally believe that matter exists outside of consciousness, which dramatically impacts the way that we do science and understand what is happening here.
@@gaiasmind4989 but why make a model at all? Rupert likes to say that we can understand truths about consciousness and the nature of the universe by recognizing that all experience happens in consciousness. To believe you are getting an understanding of reality by agreeing with that model is just another religion because there is no proof that it is true. Ruperts model requires belief and that makes it a religion
@@gaiasmind4989 but I do agree that it is a model based on experience and that is the way to go
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Clear crisp.. aham brahmasmi
Thank you Rupert 🙏 Being Aware is the only Reality.
I knew this intuitively and had a mindful walk it was so intimate then a pretty woman smiles and says hello.. I knew. That was all.
Fascinating!
Thank you Rupert
10:43 that's exactly what I needed to hear
Nope: that was exactly what you liked to hear . . . .
This is a very good video ... It is a keeper.
"Matter is a way of seeing"
and 'the way' is a matter of seeing. :)
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Love you dear Rupert..😍🇮🇳
This explanation was very helpful.. thank you.
The "object," is an EXPRESSION of consciousness.
This is so beautiful 🤍♾️
It makes sense from a biocentric perspective when he says that there are really no objects. Really there is only consciousness. It is consciousness that splits things into different parts or matter.
imagine an invisible field of wavy like energy, its infinitely large and our universe appears in one of its infinite number of ripples. A ripple is like a wave in the ocean which rises up and then collapses. just like the ocean wave which is made of water, (the very same water that the ocean itself is made of, the wave which is the effect of its vibration doesn't truly exist and is just energy.
Our energy field, as the waves (ripple), and begin to rise up they take on apparent form, and artificial space and time, then they reach a peak or a tipping point and then they collapse back into the field. As the ripples rise and collapse particles temporarily come into existence which form worlds with, spacetime, people and animals and what we call existence itself.
The energy field is INFINITELY large, each ripple or wave is also INFINITELY large and our teeny weeny, unnoticed by the field universe is made of and rises from one of the ripples and probably many more universes exist in the same ripple too. its most likely only 2 dimensional and resembles an infinitely large thin sheet of energy, which obviously vibrates creating the ripples. As each wave rises it creates artificial space and artificial time, and an artificial 3 dimensional reality.
Within each one vibrating ripple are an infinite number of smaller infinitely large vibrating ripples each and every one adding colour and variety and diversity to the artificial world we call the real solid world, none of it is real other than from the point of view of an aware artificially constructed subject inside that artificial reality.
The energy field is made of energy and is only energy and knows no other thing, [come on stretch your minds now]. the field is infinitely large, an object or universe is like a teeny. weeny flea that goes un noticed on the butt of a giant elephant..
the energy field also known as pure awareness, Consciousness pervades all things, we come from there, enter a state we call deep sleep which is a veil, enter the pre world or REM sleep/dreaming. And from there we awaken into the artificial 3 dimensional reality and think 'I'm back', then ask 'where's the coffee?'
As time passes our own unique energy wave is rising up within each of us and we see the effect of that as bodily ageing, when our unique energy wave reaches its peak it will again collapse (death) into itself. falling asleep to its artificial self and will once again wake up in the infinite field of One. Home once more.
These are just my own thoughts on Non Duality and hope I have understood some of what Rupert is speaking in his talks.
Beautifully put, thank you for sharing.
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Wouldn't be better to use an other type of microphone ?
A lav microphone for exemple?
Only a technical question...
Thank you so much ❤️ Sir
matter is a way of seeing God's Infinite Being in all it's glory
As much as I like Rupert, I’ve heard him make this argument before and I don’t think you can take “infinite space” (which by definition is infinite) and make it “finite” by simply putting an object in it.
It’s still infinite space except now there is a finite object within it.
What is you objection
Spira is right. Finite and infinite cannot exist together. Just as ‘matter’ and ‘infinite consciousness’ cannot both exist. You experience one or the other, not both.
Quantum science proves that matter has no set properties, such as size, without being perceived. Perception is reality. Objective reality is a delusion.
Accepting this truth means giving up all you cling to in your little world. Giving up on your life. If you cant do that, then suffering is your fate… but you know that already… but don’t worry, death is coming - The unavoidable salvation from the story of ‘me’.
All of the sudden everything makes sense
So in order to feel or know myself to be infinite consciousness I need to start looking at the world out there as consciousness too, not just focusing on the consciousness in my head and then I should merge with it and expand ? Or is it that everything I experience is really what it looks like inside myself/brain?
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The one who is one who will be is in all those with eyes to see.
Does the sun continue to shine,even in the absence of the earth?
Whatever you have explain din all your videos is reasonable (mind needs a reason so i said). But if we understand all this in our finite mind, then what is the ultimate aim of ours.I mean just to know it? Follow it? Experience infinite consciousness? Why everything is created or it just got created?
'I am that I am' doesn't mean that I am the I am.
.Its meaning is this: What I am is beyond any description, that there is no word or thought or anything else that can describe in any way What I am.
I don't know if this is true with knowing it for myself.
the legendary doctor spira😅
Yeah I still can’t get this…
Mind doesn't see objects . Mind IS the objects . When consciousness localizes itself as the finite mind, objects appear automatically.
PREM ANANAD MOUN SATYMSHIVAMSUNDERAM SATCHITANANAD DhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad WAHWAH AhaAha
I Awas starting to think that the question AM I aware wasnt effective for me because when I ask it my attention goes into my immediate body sensations,my head and chest area.but now that he said ,"the more you contemplate the awareness the separate self is divested from it,it makes more sense because as closely intertwined the awareness seems to be with the body,its unlikely to just notice awareness apart from the body,at least at first,and thats probably why he gestures towards his own chest area when describing the awareness going into itself.And usually consciousness is usually associated with the third eye ,which is in the forhead.
I'm confused about one thing, is conscious an abyss with no thing, no memory like in deep sleep, a colourless shapeless place where no thing happens. That can't be remembered and can't be experienced.
Noel ryan no, consciousness is all there is, so everything you feel, see, hear touch, think, taste, everything is a manifestation of form which appears in consciousness, there is nothing else.
Thank you for replying funtastic casino.. I get what you say, that all there is is experience but I'm still stuck on when we go to sleep there is know known experience. It seem like only objects can be remembered from the separate selfs point of view. deep sleep or pure knowing with know objective qualities is unknowable so..... Is that right.? because it seems like that is a black out or non existents. Sorry I just can't get past this but thanks for your reply....!
Deep Sleep can be tricky, it comes from thought filling in the gaps...The question to ask yourself is, have you ever experienced non existence, non awareness?
Thanks again I'll mull over that for a while..
Noel ryan Anything that can be perceived is not you...You are "perceiving" or subject of the 'perception'. Hence you are present in deep sleep but don't have any experience that can be remembered as deep sleep is a 'no thought' sleep...
Matter is a way of seeing and not something that is seen it is only an opinion, not the truth.
Can you please help me with a dilemma I am struggling with? If matter is a way of seeing, does that mean that if we don't see an object, the object is not made of matter?
example: If I am waiting at a bus stop and someone behind (whom |I do not see) me pricks me with a neelde, I feel pain and experience matter, which I haven't seen. How can that be explained within this context?
@@anoniem2049 Ask Rupert.
The best 22 mins of my life since a very long time!!Pure Consciousness which is gods true state and is the only thing that truly exists by which all other forms are made see's Itself as an infinite form and cant see or view anthing else that which is not infinite in itself and will therefore reject anything outside the realm of infinity by not percieving its existence at all and therefore make it totally unreconizable!Now the problem with man..who is pure consciousness and therefore infinite as Gods doesnt see it that way and now sees a limited or finite form of himself because of what the body seems to be projecting itself to be which is a limited form,but in the true reality of all is just an extension of his infinite consciousness ,but now cannot see the infinite being he is anymore cause of minds new view of itself as finite and creates illusions of all kinds which now is forced to not reconize the other anymore.This seperation triggered a melt down which resulted in the true and only first man as Adam to be put into protection as to keep him pure and was therefor put to sleep but could continue his work and fucntion in a dream state where he could procreate man as different personalities without having to risk any contamination so to speak by keeping him alive.From here on man needs to find his way back and which is to see himself with his body as infinite and all other men in that dream with him living and creating as finite forms must see themselves as only one and by doing so they will eventually be brought back to perfection which was their true home to strart off with..
You nailed it
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Quantum physics, Kabbalah revealed!
Thought:
Why am i having this experience?
I must be knowing the answer since i am knowledge itself...
Intelligence:
You cant know that on your own since you are not that kind of knowledge dummy!!!
T: I spring from you though...
I: True. You are my reflection.
T: So are you saying i am not mind? The thinker?? The intelligence itself???
I: No to all of the above
T: Well then what am I?
I: You are what i know
T: Wait. That sounds as if i actually have no substance.. no reality :(
I: You do... by my nature
T: Phew..o k then... tell me what you are
I: I'm light of awareness
T: Didnt you say you were knowledge?
I: I know... what i am i know, only i cant see that... i can only see you
T: That's messed up!
I: Aha :)
T: So where are you
I: There's no space where i am. I only am.
T: How can i help you pull together? Get real?
I: That's the problem dude... i am real.. i am reality
T: That's even more messed up than i thought
I: Who thought it? You or me? Who knows it? You or me?
T: Well i thought it... you know it..
I: I know you thought it 😅
I: So will you pls think the other way
T: What do you mean?
I: Let me know what i am
T: Are you sure?
I: Sure!! Shoot
T: ok here goes nothing... i am an unexitent unpercievable dimensionless void. I percieve countless worlds, rich and teeming with life... a gorgeous purple flower garden, deepest ocean blue.. all shapes and sorts i can only dream of. I see it. I feel it. I can taste and touch it. I celebrate that with my presence, i cry out in joy - I Am. Aaand... i am not that kind of knowledge dummy 😅😂 why am i having this experience???
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Wonder if the questioner is a politician? There is no shame whatsoever in realising your previous ignorance; in fact its a beautiful thing that we are capable of this.
Sorry Rupert, from the point of view of conciousness finate subject and object exist! Though only as a temporary formation in continual flux made out of other formations both physical and mental.
Consciousness does not forget or is ever displaced!! The finate or matter, is the infinate, always in transformation.
The buddha one of many sages points out, form is emptiness and emptiness is form. Emptiness means that everything contains the seeds of all forms of life, to be empty is to be full of everything, therefore devoid of an individual self.
Duality is a temporary expression or abode forever changing. Mostly the finate worlds are in a state of sleep. To wake up is to feel the infinate nature that is behind and prior to the senses world of subject and object. That recognition is enlightenment, freedom from self, the fraudulent claimer of ownership of life.
zendog - I tend to go with you on this one. I'm sure Rupert is coming from somewhere, & from a certain perspective what he says makes sense, but that perspective just doesn't resonate with me. That the Infinite, that Source doesn't comprehend _anything_ is so bizarre, for is That not the container of All? There is nothing (not that Source is a "thing") that Source does not comprehend.
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zendog I had the immediate reaction to his explanation for first time. Ty for your explanation.
Personally I'm flummoxed.
It certainly leaves out something very important. I believe we are Unity Consciousness at the very core, but the whole point of becoming individuated is to experience the qualities of the Divine/ Consciousness through the physical senses; therefore, we are given an eternal soul to evolve to the point where it is able to do this. Perhaps we started out completely able to do this, but the "ego' developed because of severe traumas; i.e., through cataclysms, et al, and the human race could not have survived without an ego. The problem is we have not learned how to contain the ego so as to allow Consciousness to live this life through us. Just my 2 cents, and I'm quite eclectic. When I left religion 18 years ago, this is what became the most sensible, reasonable and possible to me, and I keep coming back to it again and again. We all must do this for ourselves. I've gone around and around listening to Non-Duality, Astrotheology and Gnosticism teaches, and there seems to be a combined truth to all of them.
related to body-mind- concession and practicality are two confusing terms. Isn't the advaita teaching supposed to be most practical, based on experience? Why then concessions and what's with the two aspects of practicality? It appears that most of us spend most of the time in concessions, for practical reasons... while knowing the truth of who we are just makes life less of a chore and more of a celebration= takes the edge off life. Is this the 'practical' aspect of the teaching as a concession to living in the body-mind as an illusory separate self in a world viewed as made of objects?
God is said too much. I’d prefer it if such a loaded word were not used.
Before there was soup . . . there was no soup. Therefore . . . no more soup for you !!!!!!! hahahahahaha
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Wb resonanates since school his words stuck
God or Awareness isn't an I. I is a concept but God isn't a concept. There is not such a thing as an infinite I.
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