Massey Harris 44 Special or Just a 44 - What IS The Difference - Precarious Offload? You Decide
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- Another dead tractor is unloaded on the inclined area in a very safe manner. At least for me it is. I do not suggest anyone else takes the things I do for the full 'safety approved' method of doing anything at all...much less unloading a tractor.
Yes, of course the tractor is currently not among the 'living', but with a little luck and a few bucks, hopefully it will become another reliable daily driver. So many times I need a little more oomph pulling a load around the shop or moving a heavily loaded trailer out of the woods. THIS old guy will be the ticket to paradise if paradise is described by someone as 'having the means to move a terrifically large pile of anything'....if necessary. Wheels are optional on the load, btw.
Actually the holy grail of tractors to ME is the ever elusive model 55 Massey Harris. Now a 55 would make this 44 Special look as anemic and weak as the 44 will do to the little model 30's you see me use here on the property continuously !! Well, think about it, the 44 is 98 cu in larger than the little 30 and the 55 is 105 cubic inches larger than the 44 Special. So yeah, it's almost an apple and oranges comparison. (-;
No lives were lost in the making of this video, even though my own was a bit in jeopardy when the Missus figured out she might've been scammed a bit by the 'tire' story. LOL, Good thing for me that she's a good sport !! But anyway, look at it this way...we will be resurrecting an otherwise dead relic and giving it a chance at a new life far away from the abuses it has suffered getting to its current deteriorated condition !! Yes, this is going to be for the good of all mankind...and you will see it right here on Tractorman44 !!
A man can never have too many tractors. Precarious offload: not with your knowledge and safety features you have in place. Really enjoyed the Missus's explanation. Now we wait for the follow up videos.
Hopefully it won't take too long to get it up and running. Time will tell. And to think I thought I could sneak it by her with the tire story.....
Any 44 or 44 Special can easily go down as one of the most durable, reliable tractors of all time. The 44-6 was a nice tractor to operate, but not nearly the torque of a 44 or Special. We had a 1950 44 Gas Standard when I was growing up, and then augmented it with a 30 Standard. Then a 44 Special Gas row crop wide front which we converted to narrow front so we could use it on our Haybine. Just masterfully crafted tractors.
I agree the MH 44 series tractors were the true workhorse of the line. The sixes had a shorter stroke and smaller bore resulting in less displacement, so the huge bore and long stroke of the 4 gave it great lugging power and torque. We ran two 44's a 101 Super and a 101 Junior. I have the Super and my brother has the Jr and one of the 44's, the other 44 got away, but at least a buddy of mine has it. MH had it together for sure through the period of time between the late '30's through the mid '50's. Just for what it's worth....the 44 in my username is because it's my all time favorite tractor!!
Thank You Mr. & Mrs. TractorMan44.
You are quite welcome Glen. Thank YOU for watching !!
So happy for you my friend ! You finally have your favourite tractor ❤️ she’s a beauty!!!!
Good Morning Rick. I'd have a hard time passing up one that looks this good for sure !!
Man yeah Mr Wendell!!! What a score, good thing you went to check on those ford 2000 tires and wheels 😉😁 Boy I can't wait to see more on this one!! Love those rear tires, exactly what's on the ole 770 Oliver!! That winch setup is amazing, I am going to add that to my gooseneck if I can ever get around to finishing the 10k axle swap 🤦🤦 I enjoyed the Mrs and the commentary there, she saw the sparkle in you eye😁😁😁😁👍👍👍 Thank you my friend for bringing us along!! Looking fwd to seeing this one come alive!! I had no idea the diffet between them, thank you for the great explanation!! 👍😁
I ran with only a hand crank winch for many years Nelson. Then I installed an 8000 pound Ramsey and had solenoid after solenoid burn out. It needed something every time I used it. So I bought the cheap Harbor Freight APEX 12,000 for $299 with a 20% coupon off that a couple years ago. For the first time I went with the synthetic rope and so far it has been great !! Gotta keep it protected from rough edges though, but wind it good the first time and it seems to wind on the reel perfectly after the first 'stretching in'. By now a 3/8 cable would have some burrs hanging off and be stretched and winding badly. BTDT. Make sure you snag a couple old snatch blocks for loading too. Here's why, but you gotta look closely: th-cam.com/video/vx6a6a0OJmo/w-d-xo.html Thank you my friend for such a fine comment !!
@@tractorman4461 Yes sir Mr Wendell!! Thank you as well for the great info!! Will check it out!!
I sure enjoy your videos! Very helpful for me working on my tractors. Always enjoyed old Masseys good machines!
Thanks A J for hanging in there and watching !! This one won't get the workover that the H got, but it does need a whole lotta TLC. It's got a good hydraulic leak under the seat. Hopefully only a hose.
So we got the "real" story of how this Massey got on your trailer.
I enjoy both your and Mrs. Tractorman44's commentary. As mentioned in a comment below, I'll be waiting for the follow up videos of when you start tinkering with this tractor.
Hahahaha....yes you sure did. I never know what she's gonna say. But that's normal. LOL
I like that short story narrated by your wife, meaning she knows exactly what's
going on with part looking & instead tractor buying & coming home with. My wife
when I say I'm getting or already bought & coming home with / all she dislikes
is I have no shed to hide them and another canvas tarp to buy and "don't I already have one exactly like that", so why do you need another one. and of coarse the money
Hahahahaha....I tell the Missus all the time Bill, that if I'd have married a dumb lady I could get away with a LOT more !! LOL. Yeah, both our Missus's are onto us and our tricks. Now tell her if you had a sawmill you could just BUILD your own shed for almost nothing !! Then she'd be ready to accept another tractor much more easily.....and just look at all the money you could save !! (-;
Love your videos! The Mrs. perspective adds more humor to these videos as well! Enquiring minds want to know....How many tractors do you actually have in your stable these days? Perhaps a video describing some of these would be fun to share!
Oh Jeez Marc....I can't take a chance on admitting to a specific number on them, because the Missus might accidentally see it in print..... LOL We DO want to keep a semblance of peace in the family. LOL. I've had such a workload for the last several years, my line up has gotten embarrassingly messy. But one of these days I may oblige that request. Thank you for letting me know you enjoy the videos..and yes, I enjoy the flair she adds to the narration just as much as you guys do !!
Love the voice ove!. She is hired! Such a sweet voice
Thank you on her behalf for such a complimentary comment !! And thank you for watching as well.
Nice save. I personally never ran a massey harris, but had a neighbor that farmed with 2 444 and a 33. Another neighbor had a 101 Sr. Liked the deep rick sound their exhaust made. Funny. Back when i was a kid, I could tell which neighbor was working by the engine sound. AC's, Olivers, Farmalls, Fords or the Massey's. We had 2 cyl. JD's
I know EXACTLY what you mean Alan. They all have their distinctive engine sound for sure !! The six bangers in the Supers and Seniors sound a lot like the Oliver sixes though. Mellow as can be compared to the bellicose note of the 44's exhaust when running a straight pipe. All of them sound much more mean if you let 'em breathe !! There wasn't a lot of JD around this area, but you wanna talk about a 'distinctive' sound....those are the guilty ones !! LOL
Looking like a good one. Hope it runs great for you. Thank for the great videos 👍🇺🇸
Well Tony, I hope so too. But I always remain a bit skeptical until it starts making noise !! You're welcome Tony, but I thank YOU for watching the videos.
I grew up on a 40 cow 🐄 dairy farm in Western NY. We farmed with a Massey Harris, 44, 30 and a Mustang.
I can still hear the whine of the square cut gears. If you have a massey don’t let that whine scare you. The gears were square cut for improved strength. That’s why they make that whining sound.
It’s been a lot of years since I’ve done farm work with a MH tractor. But I do have a MH 44 that sees some use on my 60 acre hunting/camping land.
I picked it up at auction for $700. Someone had repowered it with a 283 v8 Chevy. With power steering, 3 pt, hydraulics and pto it’s quite a useful tractor. It has a standard 3 spd GM gearbox between the engine and tractor transmission. It allows me to underdrive the tractor trans to turn higher rpm’s while keeping my ground speed normal. The little 283 will produce 195 hp. But I try not to spin the tractor transmission input shaft faster than it was originally designed for. At least not when I’m working it for long periods or using the pto.
I’m not a fan of putting v8’s in tractors. But I bought it that way and I have no intention of changing it.
Great information in your video. Thumbs up for saving a MH 44 Special.
We came up in similar ways. We ran a Holstein dairy herd about the same size as well, but also raised hogs and beef cattle. We had two 44's, one with the MH loader, a 101 Super that I still have, and a 101 Jr my brother still has and the old model 25 which was the first real modern-ish tractor our granddad bought. Well, that and an old cross motor Case. The Case and the 44 loader are the only ones we don't still have. My brother has the other 44 and a friend owns the loader tractor.
That 44 with the 283 sounds kinda unique but useful as you describe. With the stacked trannys I bet it's stretched out a little. But as long as its useful, heck fire I'd use it too !! Thanks for the cool and detailed comment. I appreciate the time you've taken to watch and reply.
I have really been enjoying the wifes commentary on the videos lately, defiantly adds some humor!
She DOES have her moments, that's for sure !! LOL I'm glad to have her help too.
LOL. Love it! Your wife has called you out. Love her honesty. You have a good woman keeping you good. God Bless!
Yep, I agree. First, she sure saw through that tire story and second yes, she's a good gal. I think she thinks she'll let me keep her around. Its a good thing she likes rusty stuff and old men though. Well...ONE old man anyway. LOL
Just the medicine I needed this morning before heading to the Dr. office for tests. Your Mrs. narration of the events reassures me you haven't pulled the wool over her eyes for many years. Lol.
Doc
Hahahaha....I'm thinking you are correct my friend !! She sure ain't no dummy !! LOL I hope all went well with the doctor today.
@@tractorman4461 it did go well, thank you!!
Great info ....I have been thinking about one setting on a property next door. The old guy passed and the grand daughter has no interest in it .It is a solid looker that was just pulled out of a shed and left setting. I may just drive it across the hay field and give it a go.
I would not hesitate in checking it out. Especially of it turns out to be a Special....And if its the newest version, it'll be a 444 Special with the chrome trim, power steering, gold painted engine and gold screen over the front end. Go for it, you probably won't be disappointed even if its a plain 44 !!
Can’t wait to see it running. Boy I thought you were taking off backwards fora minute. I had to close my eyes!!! Stay safe 44. Sounds like she caught you too. The great tire heist!!!
Yessir Bob....the name of the video shoulda been: 'Busted By The Missus....Again' !! (Between me and you I knew the big 38's were way too big for the little 28's on the Ford).
That doghouse you're sleeping in better be comfortable when you come home with an upgrade. Thxs for the vids!
Hahahahaha....I spent many a night sharing a blanket with the dog !! Not really LOL. She's always a good sport about the toys that follow me home. Thanks David for hanging in there and watching !!
Well, it sounds and looks like a nice find to add to your collection of workable tractors. Looking forward to the makeover video. Enjoyed the Missus and her knowledgeable commentary, can’t kid a kidder as they say!
Well this one is gonna get hit with a lick and a promise. No major goings over like the old H was subjected to. The summer is already way too busy !!
Man what a score!! I have an old tin advertisement for the massey harris hydrologic system, ps love the narration from the misses lol great video!
Glad you enjoyed the Massey excursion Andrew !! The Missus is enjoying poking fun at me in the narrations.... She's good at it too !! LOL Hold on to that metal sign. If that's one to nail up on a barn some guys pay crazy prices for that stuff !! It'll be nice to get the old Special up and running for sure !!
@@tractorman4461 looking forward to another one of ur fine restoration series man!!
@@ButlerOutdoorsCanada I prefer the term ''RUST-oration" instead. I seem to have a ten to one ratio on rust to paint..... BUT the mechanical end usually turns out pretty decently though. LOL Have a wonderful day out in that beautiful Canadian bush my friend !!
So, I herd say your a tractor bigamous....what a beauty but now your still looking for wheels but you can say she bout you a nice fathers day present......well done....CHEERS
Hey Gator....I'll suggest she read your comment FIRST !! I like the way you think. LOL
Very nice find! You know a lot about your favorite tractor @44 ! Insightful commentary on the motivation for getting it 😂
I was raised on Massey's....we had two 44's and a 101 Super and 101 Junior. Over the years I think she's heard every story under the sun about why a new tractor followed me home.....LOL
LOL! You went to the store for a jug of milk and came home with the whole cow. Too funny, T! Congrats on the tractor - I'm sure you'll have her purring in no time. Of course, you still need to find those tires and rims you went out to pick up. :)) Cheers my friend!
Hahahaha....Yes GP, I'm afraid that's the way it happens sometimes. LOL Soon as I have a n afternoon to spare, I'll dig into the old gal a little deeper. Have a wonderful day !!
There is a beauty Wendell and the perfect offload, like the story of Missus, sound like a story from school day's lol, the 44 is a absolute treasure my friend, hope to see more of that tractor
Hahahaha...she's got a knack for telling stories on me. LOL Oh, you WILL see more of it and soon too !!
My father bought a brand new 44 Special with wide front and live power. At the time it was the largest farm tractor on our state rd. Was put on the JD 24T baler with a kicker and my mother baled hay may years. Even pictured with a bale being thrown in the air behind her pictured in the paper.
The top link for the MH was called a yolk for the power shaft to go through.
On the farm by the time I come along we also had: 33 tricycle with live power and Super Six all hydraulic loader, 33 diesel with wide front and live power and a 55 with a wide front.
Such a good 44 Special story with picture proof !! I have one of those yolks too....I didn't even know that's what they called it. That 33 diesel is a sought after tractor right now. We had a standard MH farm loader with trip bucket on one of the 44's. The 55 to me is the Holy Grail....none to be found near me. My older brother bought one for $300 in pieces in the mid 70's. Still using it today. An AWESOME power house for sure !!
A new name sake at 44 Ranch that just happens to be a 44 Special! I do believe Missus 44 was not surprised and neither was I. So many of we your 44 fans are looking forward to future 44 Adventures staring this tractor,,,and your little ole self of course. Kind Thanks and this requires a mess of tippin anna sippin and finger lickin, depending on some sweet treat, which will require a few more cups. And a special cup for Missus as she did so well on narration! Get that latest running and take the first drive on a lovely summer day in the famous 44 tutu! A Fine week ahead to all 44s from my Holler to your Holler with the new family member! DaveyJO
Well, I have a few of the regular 44's and even another Special parts tractor down in the woods. Two of the 44's were daily drivers until around 2016 and I let them take the back burner to the more gas efficient and 98 cubic inch smaller model 30's. Most of what I do can be accomplished with them, but ever so often I just need a little more grunt.....and this new Special should give that to me. IF it runs, that is. LOL. All it takes is a little time and a lotta money !! I too am sippin and tippin my fanciful lady-like flavorful coffee the Missus keeps grinding for me. Thank you ol' buddy for stopping in and having a cup with me today !!
I look forward to hearing the tractor run.
Well David, that makes TWO of us. LOL. The gas tank is solid rust and the carb has gotta be nasty. That'll be the starting point.
whey buddy that doesn't look like tires and rims to me lol nice old tractor looks to be in good shape can't wait to hear it running and you driving it great find thanks for sharing good job unloading take care
Thanks Tom for the visit. Yes, it looks pretty good on the surface, lets hope it looks good on the inside too !! I'll get to it soon....I hope.
Keep us posted on your restoration on this tractor. i grew up on MH22 and MH30. We actually farmed with those when I was a kid. Today Im retired but working for a nearby farmer for something to do. Driving 385hp 4wd tractors, 30 ft disk. I disked 160 acres yesterday. Our whole farm was 160 acres when I was growing up.
25 yrs ago, I spotted a restored 44 special in Indiana, it was for sale. I had to go take a look at that. I always wanted to drive a 44 or 44 special...
The 44 is my all time favorite tractor. That's the 44 in Tractorman44 ya know. LOL True story. I hope to get this into the shop this winter to replace or repair the split hydraulic control housing. That'll be the first thing for sure. Todays tractors are quite a bit different than when we were kids. 160 acres a day !! Unheard of for us. We'd turn under a 40 acre bottom in one hard day with two 44's and a 101 Super. Two, 3 bottom plows and one 2 bottom for the 101. All drag plows. Of course we had to pull away for the evening milking too...
Tractor Bigamist LOL! I'll remember that one!
LOL!
Yeah, I laughed at that too when I was editing the video. But she's not incorrect. LOL
@@tractorman4461 😂👍
Thank you T man for saving another piece of Canadian history. The first thing I ever drove on my own was my uncle's Massey 30. Alex
Thanks Alex...I've wanted a Special forever but I'd really like to find a 44 Standard or Wheatland. Oddly my first tractor to drive was the 101 Junior, which is the model that eventually became the model 30. The last years of the Jr had the same 160 cu in Continental engine as the 30. The difference was the 4 speed of the Jr vs. the 5 speed of the 30 series and the obvious sheet metal changes. I've got tons of Massey videos in the playlists up above if you are interested. Like this one on a straight 44: th-cam.com/video/3IB0huMVcZ4/w-d-xo.html Thanks for the visit this morning !!
@@tractorman4461 Thanks mate. I was always of the impression the 44 ran a Chrysler flathead 6, or was that the 55 ?
@@Mopar-Pioneer No, the 55 has a 382 cu in 4 banger. It is a real beast. The regular 44 had a 260 four, the 44 Special swelled to a 277 four along with the 444-4 then the 44-6 had the flathead 6 along with a 101 starting in '39 then continuing with the 101 Super in the early 40's. Then the final in the series ended up with a 101 Senior. The 44-6 and the 101 Senior had the same Continental engine and the 101 and 101 Super had the Chrysler industrial. The 101 Juniors started with the 124 -4, changed to a 140-4 early on then ended production with a 160-4 when the MH 30 entered the scene with the same 160-4 and 5 speed tranny. Btw, is there much value to a '64 Polara four door? I've been gifted a rough one owner non-runner but haven't picked it up yet. It's fitted with the 318 wide block with automatic tranny. Not the original engine I think.
@@tractorman4461 yeah mate, any Mopar from the 60's is worth having ! Especially if it is a gift ! I had a 64 Fury 3 2 door hardtop at home. I was 1 month shy in ownership that would have let me bring it to Australia duty free .
@@Mopar-Pioneer Whoa..!! I didn't realize you were in Austrailia. I was thinking Canadian with your earlier comment. I better go get that old Mopar then. Its a 440 trim package. I think the Fury was much more stylish. Wasn't there subtle body style differences ? I kick my self for trading a 58 Power Wagon 4 wheel drive with the 315 Poly hemi for 2 John Deere A's many many years ago.
Pretty cool having they oll girl smoke you out, funny stuff, my uncle Kenny now has 46 tractors the last additions were 1938 D John Deere and a 1950 R diesel, both are very nicely painted and restored.
Dang Troy, I'd like to have one of each of those JD's as well !! I don't have pretty paint on any of mine yet. I'm too busy making them run. One of these days though I'll get there. Maybe.
Hey Wendell! You just couldn’t resist, could you? Couldn’t pass up a 44 Special. I hate to tell you this but I think the Missus is on to you. She knows you didn’t get it for the tire rims to go on a Ford. Good news is she didn’t sound too upset. LOL
No, I couldn't resist. Just like a Big Mac or a Whopper or a bowl of ice cream...If its there, Imma gonna eat it !! LOL Naw, she doesn't get mad or upset.....she gets EVEN !! She wants comparable WEIGHT in jewelry.....LOL
Lovely lady voice commentator and THE BEST FAST BACK TRACTOR DRIVER EVER mon ami !!!
Hahahaha....that was little quick wasn't it. I didn't even have to fast forward the video either !! The Missus is enjoying the opportunity to poke a little fun too. Thank you for visiting this beautiful spring day, mon ami !
@@tractorman4461 LOL, you are pretty sharp Sir and that is why your fine looking lady love you mon ami Cheers !!!
I was thinking you needed another tractor! There's always a story behind the story!
I was starting to suffer the DT's from not supplying a dead tractor to feed my 'dead tractor addiction' !! Its' all good now....for a while.
Goes to look at a set of wheels/tyres, comes home with a tractor😆👍. Started going to a few auctions recently, always a good time😆.
Yeah, I tried the old 'bait and switch' routine on the Missus and I don't think she bought it this time. LOL There's no end to the bargains you'll find at auctions. Many times you'll spend pennies on the dollar for specialty tools and even tractors and equipment !!
We had a massive Harris 44 uncle had a special 44 and then I had a 444444. They had to spin out wheels live power. The power shaft is lower three point power steering high and low transmission so the triple four was a real good tractor that’s a 444. They were before Massey Ferguson came out.
Doggone it...I have written two replies and for some reason they seem to disappear. And I don't know why or where they go.
Congratulations on another tractor! You have plenty winter projects!
Thanks Jeff, and yes I have one or TEN projects too many. Winter is way too short to cover them all. LOL But I just can't pass up a bargain !! It's a curse I bear.....
another project its great you stay busy
Hopefully this one will be reasonably quick and simple. Hopefully, I say Mark. LOL
It's a good thing I don't have my own trailer. I'd be getting in hot water like that. Lol. That'd look awful good sitting next to my row crop!
Well dang Steve...were I you, I'd just solve that delimma by building or buying me a trailer as quick as I could !! She never gets upset though, so the water's never quite 'hot'. LOL You NEED another one so the first one won't get lonely.
I'm sure by now that the Missus just rolls her eyes at you when you show up with another tractor. 😂😂😂
I try to keep her excitement to a minimum though. So for her health I usually try to bring them home when she's not here. See...?? I'm just thinking of her. LOL
@@tractorman4461 🤣🤣🤣 I'm sure she appreciates that!!!
Nice find
Yes, its not too bad. Just a lot of minor stuff I'm hoping.
So Wendell, you go out to buy a gallon of milk then come back with a herd of good looking dairy cows and 40 acres of farm land to pasture your new dairy cows. I like your buys (kidding). It sounds like Mamma definitely knows you. Those wheels ain't coming off that tractor. Have a fine upcoming week and have fun with the new tractor. Semper Fi. Don 👍🏽🙂 6/5/22
Hahahahaha.... I like that comparison Don. LOL. A fella can't have too many tractors....or cows.
@@tractorman4461 So true, Wendell. Enjoy that new tractor, brother. Don 👍🏽🙂
Now I know what the 44 in your u-tube handle covers.
Yessir....notice the logo is a 44 Standard too. Thanks Larry for the visit and we will get on it pretty soon.
the regular 44S had press rear wheels and the 44 specials they cast center rear wheels they were heavier which made 4 better pulling and U still could rear wheels weights on 😊😊 OMG 7 15 2O23
Yessir...and I use cast centers themselves for wheel weights on other tractors too. They make awesome wheel weights !! I have a set on an old 30 and another set on another 44.
Very nice find Wendell but I don't think the Missus is buying that you buy the tires and the guy threw the tractor in for free. Nice safely unload. Did you have to haul it far? What's your plans for the tractor after you've gone through it? It would be a nice gift for the Missus.
Yes, she busted my chops good with that narration Mike. That's what happens when I leave my computer open for a quick trip to the shed. Always a surprise waiting for me !! LOL It was only about 12 miles by back road. IF it runs decently it will become another useful machine around here. It would be GREAT on the big Frankenblaster when the Missus wants to 'fancy up' more lawn furniture. It'll handle the big old home made dump bed much better than the little tractors too.
Hahaha,... I'm laughing at her comments.
I can't totally agree with her, as I would have done the exact same thing you did, IF I were lucky enough to find a tractor like this one.
Thank you for the moral support Reg !! LOL She always has something to say about a new tractor. Before she retired, I could ferret one in and hide it in the line up. Sometimes it might be a year before she'd notice it. Ahhhh...the good old days. LOL. Admittedly though it IS a lot more fun now that she can help feed my addiction with the extra time retirement allows.
@@tractorman4461 Yes, it does, so keep on enjoying them.
@@regsparkes6507 Oh heck yeah !! Just hauled another one today too. But sadly, it was only for a friend. LOL
We all hear the twinkle in her voice! She knows exactly where you will be and what you will be workin on instead of burning up the roads on yer bike!
Hahahahaha....that's what she always told her girl friends Mike.... "At least I know where he's at and he's not sitting on a bar stool if he's in the shed working on a tractor." LOL
Wasn't the Massey Harris built in Racine? Amazingly, the engine is the exact same size as a DC Case and Case had to increase the bore to 4 inch aluminum pistons, put in a foot clutch and slap on a better seat in 53 and 54 in order to try to keep up with the competition.
Yes, MH had a Racine factory plus another one in Canada. I believe the DC had the same cubic inches as the standard 44 at 260 cu. in. The Special, like this one has 17 more at 277 cu in. I agree the SC and DC Cases were good tractors, but they hung onto the hand clutch a bit too long. Most of them I've seen in this area has the big steering arm that sticks out front broken and repaired. I guess they'd smack a tree or a fencepost at the end of the fields while turning.
@@tractorman4461 In regard to engine size, the 3 7/8 cast piston engines were 260 cubic inches. The 4 inch aluminum factory equipped engines were 277 cubic inches and the 4 1/16 M and W equipped engines were 284 cubic inches. Case built too many D series tractors and had to "superize" them to get rid of them. IMHO the biggest weakness was having only 4 speeds. The Massey-Harris factory in Racine was the old JI Case Plow Works factory where Wallis tractors were made IIRC. Massey Harris were good tractors, there was a local dealer who sold a ton of them, but he didn't survive long as a MF dealer.
@@don66hotrod94 Yes, I knew the 3 7/8 bore was the 260 on the 44, but I mistook what you said earlier and thought you meant they changed to the 4" aluminum to get the DC up TO the 260 cu in mark, meaning the DC had to have had a shorter stroke. My mistake. I'm not a big 'old' Case guy anyway so most all this is new input to me. Thanks again for the new wrinkles in the gray matter. Btw, my older brother has a 37 Challenger and a '37 Model 25 both of which still have the Wallis U-tube crankcase design. The 25 came from our farm and he traded for the Challenger years ago.
@@tractorman4461 Good to hear your family has a heritage tractor from the family. Our local Ford, formerly John Deere dealer, was a bit of a collector and he traded in 3 Oil Pulls, 2 Wallis, and 2 Eagles lined up in front of his building, all becoming very rusty over the 50 or so years they were sitting there. His sons quickly cashed in those machines when he passed on. Now I wish I had taken a picture of that lineup.
@@don66hotrod94 Yessir, a lot of those treasures are long gone from the countryside now. Between my brother and I, we have several memorable items from the old home place beyond the old model 25. We also have dad's favorite 44 and his all time favorite, the 101 Super as well as the little guy the 101 Junior. Also his 3/4 ton 56 Ford stepside.
Well tm44 what, no matter what you choose to do the ole Massey Harris his got potential. And, its gkt brakes . Thats always a plus.
Hahahahaha...yes, she's got brakes and they are DISC brakes on this one too !! It turns over easily but its fuel system need severe attention first Dean.
We are trying to put our 44 special back together after 20 years is there some way I can contact you for tips it sounds to me like you really know your stuff about these old antique tractors my great uncles 83 years old and he's wanting to get this tractor put back together
Well Rodrick, I do stay pretty busy and go in quite a few directions at the same time but you're welcome to email me and outline the situation. I'm not a super-wrench but with a little luck I usually make things run halfway decently. I gotta warn you, I get many many emails each week, and I may be a little slow to respond, but I will try. Send it to: whpete44@gmail.com and I will keep an eye out for it.
@@tractorman4461 okay great you got any ideas on Rod caps were missing two and we need a cam keeper and a PTO bearing that's all we're liking to get this together I don't know where the parts went they went poof
i have mf 44k in uk it was imported to uk in 1948 on lend lease scheme made in 1947 late its standard front axle
They fitted a lot of them with the Perkins diesel over there and called them 744's didn't they ? I've only seen ONE 744 in person over here. I am very impressed at the list of tractors you have Nigel.
@@tractorman4461 yes 744 and 744 k if built in england i think bradford or 744 built in scotland i think kilmarnock mine 44 k denotes petrol /kerosense in uk used tvo not kerosene
@@nigelgwillim644 ALL nice tractors for sure Nigel.
I think the missus is right those tires and rims wont fit the ford 2000. I think she knows if a 44
was there it will most likely be coming home
I think over the years she's heard every reason under the sun the 'why's' behind another tractors magical appearance. I think maybe Neil, I must be losing my touch.... But it WAS easier to sneak stuff in before she retired.
NICE (MASSEY 44) T-44 YOUR WIFE SAYS YOUR A TRACTOR BIGIMIST? LOL
CANT HAVE TOO MANY TRACTORS.
Yes, that's what she says. I guess she's finally named my major affliction !! (-;
Thanks to the Missus for the REAL story behind this tractor. Does she bar over or is she froze up? Did you get a good deal on her or did you just get her? Differences are important.
Yes, it'll spin with the starter Rick, and yes it was a fair price for both me and the seller. The gas tank is badly rusted and the carb has got to be nasty. So that's gonna be the first thing. Got a bad hydraulic leak under the control valve/cylinder and I see some brazing on the bottom of the mount.
I bought a 10 acre hobbyfarm and the 44 Special was buried in a collapsed barn. It seems in good shape and I'd like to try to fire it up but I don't know if it takes gas or diesel fuel. Is there a way to tell?
The easiest way is to look for spark plugs and wires. If there’s no plugs and wires it will be a diesel. Instead of plugs a diesel has injectors with a pipe from each going back to a pump on the side of the motor.
@@tractorman4461 Thank You! I'll look tomorrow. Much appreciated.
@@wescragg5129 Good luck to you. There may even still be a little fuel in the tank too if it's only sat for a few years.
@@tractorman4461 My friend, it's got a distributor and spark plugs so I threw some fresh gas in the tank and a good battery in it (and replaced the battery connectors and cleaned the cables) and it wanted to go...engine e sounded good but I can tell that no gas is making it to the combustion chamber. So I looked under rhe gas tank and saw the carburetor? It has a shotglass looking thing that is I believe the float? And no fuel was in it. So I took it apart because they built things awesome back then! Cleaned it out but I'm unsure of if there is a lever (like on a motorcycle) or something that I need to do to get fuel running into that glass float just under the fuel tank. The fuel line connectors sit just above the glass float and has a mesh screen in-between them. Also, there is a clutch pedal on the left and a wide pedal in the right which may or may not be the gas pedal? There is also some type of lever by the steering wheel that looks like is the actual throttle? I'm just a bit out of my league here with farm equipment, especially older farm equipment but my gut feeling says that this tractor really wants to run again.
@@tractorman4461 ok, I saw your other video where you unfortunately got sprayed with hydraulic fluid. The glass thing is some sort of fuel sediment container (unsure how exactly that supposed to work as the screen should filter it out) but mine was bone dry so there may be a blockage from the tank to the sediment bowl??
Didn't the special have power steering.
Yes, for the most part I believe it was standard issue on the Special. So many of these tractors this old have suffered quite a few changes at the hands of their owners. I have another Special down in the woods that doesn't have it either.
sorry 745 if built in kilmarnock scotland
I knew there was a 745, but I didn't know why. That's good to know. Made in Scotland.
buen tractor sin centralita ni leches
Sí, una máquina buena y sencilla que todavía tiene mucha vida.
there isn't a massey thats not special. 😃
Hahahaha...spoken from the heart of a true Massey-Man !!
Just checking in and out my friend, will return again, I'm on the road
No problem Jan. Safe travels my friend !!