“...yeah, really Rad...err...but.....What’s drift?....” “Weell, it’s going round in circles burning rubber and batteries ‘till you die...or your creator gets bored....” “Aaand......THIS is my purpose?...my ....SOLE....purpose....???......”
yup, no robot will consume less energy and have the same (or better) versatility and capability in all tasks as a human, it won't happen. evolution is stronger than the human mind. it needs no evidence other than walking outside and observing.
woolfoma So what you're saying is that you _were_ making a baseless assertion. Even if your claim is correct, are you suggesting robots cannot themselves undertake evolution?
Thanks for your support. They certainly can evolve - and much quicker than humans. Skip to 46:23 ... www.dailymotion.com/video/xxpghz_the-secret-life-of-chaos_tech The whole video is super interesting too. I have more crap if you're interested.
You guys are on the right track! Scaling down machine learning to something this small is a no brainer. So many companies and research institutions try to jump to large scale and usually have a hard time applying it.
Oh Ma Gawd!!! You guys are gods. I've been coding our robot for VEX U, just getting into PID. I quickly learned that it's not even easy to get a robot to go where you want when you start throwing in two dimensional movement at it. I hope to get it driving in curves by the end of the season, so it can take the optimal paths to get from point to point, by factoring in momentum. Seeing a robot doing this is really impressive and inspiring. The whole video was really epic and the music was spot on. Great work guys!
Option GTS Is not eurobeat is bullshit. But you can mute the vídeo and put it from another source. By the way is awesome that you know what is eurobeat. You are great bro.
This video inspired us to build a self drifting car at our university. Instead of a camera based system we use a gyro and accelerometer. Currently we teach the algorith what a drift is, which is not that easy if you cant actually drift with an RC car. Gread video!
Anytime I see the title "X using Machine Learning", I roll my eyes. However, this is really cool! Providing initial parameters through a simulation is a clever.
no NO we do not speak that blasphemy here... This is a holy place..... a place of nani-inducing kansei doriftos and eurobeat... NOT PAYDAY 2 WITH CARS!
bloody impressive. simulating and allowing the model to work out some details given parameters is definitely the way to go. other machine learning seems like it has to accidentally stumble across the correct answer
Is there a paper specific on it? No clue on ACL official page. Most related could be 'Real-World Reinforcement Learning via Multifidelity Simulators' but none under the title this vid bears.
This looks amazing. The only thing I think would add to it is variable throttle control, as in drifting most of your "steering" is done by throttle. Keep up the great work!
no NO we do not speak that blasphemy here... This is a holy place..... a place of KANSEI DORIFTO... NOT TOKYO DORIFTO A PLACE OF DRIFTO-ING IN THE GUNMA PREFECTURE, NOT TOKYO YOU HAVE TAINTED THIS PLACE soiled it... and for that, I hereby sentence you to.... DEATH BY IMPREZA TREATMENT THIS... IS... KANTOOOOO!!!!!!!
I watched because I'm a rally car nerd but learned that ai is much closer than I expected. the engineer in me is screaming at the incredible computer leaning capabilities
Great work, ACL at MIT. One suggestion: either lower or remove the crappy riff track. I want to hear your studies and what it brings, not some crappy music. There's plenty of videos here on youtube for that.
.. and some toy company in china would quickly rip it off, mass produce a new RC car, and make million$$$ from this team's work while treating it as proprietary closed source IP. I kid you not.
What's interesting is that the throttle is pegged to a constant state and steering is altered. Human drifting is the opposite where you play with the throttle much more.
There goes learning to drift. now all you need to do is let your car learn and drift itself. If technology keeps going this way, we can look forward to very fat people unable to move in future. just like Walle movie LOL
***** I think the reason is why not. And besides, it's a bit of a different race, because it's more of the programmers ability to program kind of race.
+Timms MC In a way, you could compare autonomous racing to tool assisted speedrunning in video games. The point of a TAS is to see how fast a game could theoretically be played. Similarly, autonomous racing would exist to see how fast a particular car can go around a particular track without the human element. There's no reason why autonomous racing and conventional racing couldn't exist simultaneously as separate competitions.
The problem would be breaking traction. With the RC car its on plastic wheels so it has no traction. As they say in the video all they are changing is the steering input. With a car you need to break traction and maintain the lack of traction, so you would need to teach the computer to clutch kick or handbrake. Then teach it how to maintain the lack of traction because cars generally fight to gain it. Plus the longer a car drifts the more the grip characteristics change as the tyres heat up and wear away.
its a secret to everypony that's what's cool. You don't teach it. The car teaches itself. That's what machine learning is. You just teach it to learn by itself. Then...it can learn drifting, flying, or finishing a game on hard level. The coders don't teach it. Thats what makes the machine autonomous.
If anyone ever had questions about learning on a simulator and translating that knowledge to real life, machine learning can do it, so humans should be able to as well. If I'm not mistaken someone actually did put in hours on a simulator to try and find real world race car solutions to cut time.
Can u provide info on what kind of device is controlling the car? is it a computer interface to the transmitter, is it a standard car-radio-control manipulated by robotic fingers?
This is amazing. I'm curious if you can develop this for a different application. My idea is to have it use this to figure out the fastest way around a track.
"what is my purpose?"
"you drift."
"... Rad"
"welcome to the club"
*initial D starts playing*
“...yeah, really Rad...err...but.....What’s drift?....”
“Weell, it’s going round in circles burning rubber and batteries ‘till you die...or your creator gets bored....”
“Aaand......THIS is my purpose?...my ....SOLE....purpose....???......”
Hell yeah bro
I hope Tesla have a drift mode in their new car.
Why?
Do you think buy one and drift it?
An electric motor would be great for drifting.
No?
Burak Baggins
Instant torque and active braking. I'd say yes!
Marius Palikša pics or it didn't happen
Marius Palikša false, they can drift, and are cooled, but can't sustain peak performance for extended periods.
Please make a mini drift track and make the car race on it, even more, make a second car and make them race each other with drifting
Zwizzor Autonomous tandems!
LMFAO!
you forgot the SUPER EUROBEAT that is needed when they play cat and mouse
Zwizzor I was waiting for that too
Drifting isn't really the fastest way around a corner..
We've been beaten at Chess, Jeopardy, Go & now drifting. We're doomed.
ya, but we'll never be beat at efficiency and versatility in all categories.
woolfoma Care to actually back that statement up?
yup, no robot will consume less energy and have the same (or better) versatility and capability in all tasks as a human, it won't happen. evolution is stronger than the human mind. it needs no evidence other than walking outside and observing.
woolfoma So what you're saying is that you _were_ making a baseless assertion. Even if your claim is correct, are you suggesting robots cannot themselves undertake evolution?
Thanks for your support. They certainly can evolve - and much quicker than humans.
Skip to 46:23 ...
www.dailymotion.com/video/xxpghz_the-secret-life-of-chaos_tech
The whole video is super interesting too.
I have more crap if you're interested.
Now make the second car drift with the first drifting around it :D
Stefano Cuter Then lets create drifting like planetary system
Driftception
You guys are on the right track! Scaling down machine learning to something this small is a no brainer. So many companies and research institutions try to jump to large scale and usually have a hard time applying it.
you need to recreate our solar system with drifting cars that are colored
What if the planets are already drifting?
@@Robert-Cinque777 Dude, my comment is 3 years old...
@@rusted-iron4360 i felt that
@@rusted-iron4360 glad you are still fine! hope the 3 years have been going great for you!
@@rusted-iron4360 I'm just watching this too lol. Showed up in my recommended
Oh Ma Gawd!!! You guys are gods. I've been coding our robot for VEX U, just getting into PID. I quickly learned that it's not even easy to get a robot to go where you want when you start throwing in two dimensional movement at it. I hope to get it driving in curves by the end of the season, so it can take the optimal paths to get from point to point, by factoring in momentum. Seeing a robot doing this is really impressive and inspiring. The whole video was really epic and the music was spot on. Great work guys!
Mr. Block is fucked up.
YonnyMestampo jejeje
YonnyMestampo not just yet
job lost to robots gg
*The under-light* @1:30 is very nice for regular street cars too.
It helps with visibility a lot.
this is one of the coolest things that I've ever seen! :D
The last seconds though. .. lol 3:20. Awesome.
part of learning... :-)
Background music is not eurobeat
Option GTS Is not eurobeat is bullshit. But you can mute the vídeo and put it from another source.
By the way is awesome that you know what is eurobeat.
You are great bro.
*dislikes*
Best comment
Please use louder music as I can almost still hear your voice a little...
These ML guys have already perfected drifting? Dammit.
deja vu(i, have):
been in this_place
before()
It is very nice, and it is not believable you researched it 8 years ago, thanks for sharing, and now you can use RL to more enjoy the results.
more info ? how did you initialize reinforcement NN's with MPC solutions ?
solve mpc, use as NN data ?
published paper ?
This video inspired us to build a self drifting car at our university. Instead of a camera based system we use a gyro and accelerometer. Currently we teach the algorith what a drift is, which is not that easy if you cant actually drift with an RC car. Gread video!
Very interesting project! Thanks for sharing!
The lights under that RC car look epic.
_deja vu_
*I've just been in this place before*
Higher on the street
*And I know it's my time to come home*
calling you and the subjects a mystery
dsp4 and Amir Hakim you need to look up the lyrics thats not what it is
Anytime I see the title "X using Machine Learning", I roll my eyes. However, this is really cool! Providing initial parameters through a simulation is a clever.
Me: this car is smarter than my brain
Brain: you're smart
I've always wondered this. I drift on LFS all the time, thinking it would be (almost) impossible to automate drifting. This is so cool to see.
*2 Fast 2 Furious RC Version*
I hope that car got the truck's phone number.
you mean Tokyo Drift... not 2 fast 2 furious...
no NO we do not speak that blasphemy here...
This is a holy place.....
a place of nani-inducing kansei doriftos and eurobeat...
NOT PAYDAY 2 WITH CARS!
that music is loud though
Music ruined the video due to volume.
It also wasn't Initial D music
when your studying computer stuff and take breaks for initial d memes and youtube algorithm is like "Hold on, I got this"
Maintaining the drift with the moving car just blew my mind!
Ken CPUBlock
KenGPT
I don't know how ppl dislike such a cool video?
What the hell do they expect???
COMING SOON! Ken Block VS Cyborg Ken Block!
This is probably the coolest thing I've seen in a while..
Ken Block have to find a new job...
榊礼武 haha thought the same when car started to drift around a moving truck
was thinking the same bro!
TheDimaSomov rip ken block Hahahah
bloody impressive. simulating and allowing the model to work out some details given parameters is definitely the way to go. other machine learning seems like it has to accidentally stumble across the correct answer
Is there a paper specific on it? No clue on ACL official page. Most related could be 'Real-World Reinforcement Learning via Multifidelity Simulators' but none under the title this vid bears.
M. Cutler and J. P. How, "Autonomous drifting using simulation-aided reinforcement learning," in 2016, . DOI: 10.1109/ICRA.2016.7487756.
Any chance there's an open source PDF?
How can someone possibly dislike this video, this is awesome !
3:10 deploy to production!
Lil
This looks amazing. The only thing I think would add to it is variable throttle control, as in drifting most of your "steering" is done by throttle. Keep up the great work!
Is the project code open source?
finally someone doing some important research towards autonomous driving!
This is super interesting. Please remix this video, music is too loud, noise of car is too loud, voice is too quiet.
Wow, you are definitely going to win every self-driving race from here on. ;)
God I hope Elon Musk sees this
M_S I don't think there's a need to drift on Mars.
@@wol2231 but we need Tesla to drift for us!
Whoever wrote code for this is just genius.
Great, Now, when the Terminators take over, they'll be Tokyo Drifting around my bullet-riddled corpse. Thanks, science.
no NO we do not speak that blasphemy here...
This is a holy place.....
a place of KANSEI DORIFTO... NOT TOKYO DORIFTO
A PLACE OF DRIFTO-ING IN THE GUNMA PREFECTURE, NOT TOKYO
YOU HAVE TAINTED THIS PLACE
soiled it...
and for that, I hereby sentence you to....
DEATH BY IMPREZA TREATMENT
THIS...
IS...
KANTOOOOO!!!!!!!
this made me fucking laugh. well played sir
They sure went through a whole lot just to make their friend feel comfortable being really good at rc drifting
They built a tiny autonomous Ken Built.
+chewser117 Ken Block*
+Cody Esmay Damn auto-correct.
Ken Brick
+Mr Starforge Ken Brock
Ten o'clock
I watched because I'm a rally car nerd but learned that ai is much closer than I expected. the engineer in me is screaming at the incredible computer leaning capabilities
NANII?!? KANSEI DORIFTO???
Could'nt stop thinking of "When the Sun Goes Down" and "Fujiwara Zone" throughout this vid xD
The coolest thing i've seen today.. thanks yt for recommending this.
Great work, ACL at MIT.
One suggestion: either lower or remove the crappy riff track. I want to hear your studies and what it brings, not some crappy music. There's plenty of videos here on youtube for that.
Thank you MIT. To much fun on one video
Please include the Github in description, for learning x
They can't do that. The code they used is proprietary.
DC Why?
Is there any open framework that they used at least?
Proprietary drifting? Stallman doesn't think so.
.. and some toy company in china would quickly rip it off, mass produce a new RC car, and make million$$$ from this team's work while treating it as proprietary closed source IP. I kid you not.
3 minute video better than TOKYO DRIFT :) . Keep it up .
Give it the use of throttle control and a handbrake.
Mrwrenchifi good idea.
We live in hella exciting times! :) I'd love to learn more about the code running on this really cool drifter
Still think you can drive better than an autonomous car?
dagumi can drive better
What's interesting is that the throttle is pegged to a constant state and steering is altered. Human drifting is the opposite where you play with the throttle much more.
Ken Block approves this video
Hello, please what is the name of the first music? 0:00 thanks a lot for answer
Nevermind I found out it's A New Beginning by Bensound
could researchers please stop using background music in videos about their papers?
Primius80 *turn up the music even more*
2:19 it looks like moon around earth !! this is amazing !
There goes learning to drift. now all you need to do is let your car learn and drift itself. If technology keeps going this way, we can look forward to very fat people unable to move in future. just like Walle movie LOL
Agreed.
btw: you are one of my favorites youtubers :-)
probably not really as there will be machines to exercise for us
I know dudes that are 250 pounds that can drift. It requires no physical fitness.
***** I think the reason is why not. And besides, it's a bit of a different race, because it's more of the programmers ability to program kind of race.
+Timms MC
In a way, you could compare autonomous racing to tool assisted speedrunning in video games. The point of a TAS is to see how fast a game could theoretically be played. Similarly, autonomous racing would exist to see how fast a particular car can go around a particular track without the human element. There's no reason why autonomous racing and conventional racing couldn't exist simultaneously as separate competitions.
In full size car drifting, steering is mostly used to initialize the drift, followed by counter steering and maintaining the drift by throttling.
Please re-upload without the music. The music makes it feel like a scam crowdfunding thing. Thanks.
I see the potential of a thousand RC cars drifting around each other
Rocket League is no longer a human game
Nothing better than transfering machine learning results into the physical world. Looks alien
now teach a real car how to do that
It would probably actually be simpler, since the real car moves relatively slower to its size.
The problem would be breaking traction. With the RC car its on plastic wheels so it has no traction. As they say in the video all they are changing is the steering input.
With a car you need to break traction and maintain the lack of traction, so you would need to teach the computer to clutch kick or handbrake. Then teach it how to maintain the lack of traction because cars generally fight to gain it. Plus the longer a car drifts the more the grip characteristics change as the tyres heat up and wear away.
you dont know shit
Who?
its a secret to everypony that's what's cool. You don't teach it. The car teaches itself. That's what machine learning is. You just teach it to learn by itself. Then...it can learn drifting, flying, or finishing a game on hard level. The coders don't teach it. Thats what makes the machine autonomous.
Thumbs up for putting up the NG clip.
Ken block exposed
This project is obsoletely incredible
music ruined the show. please consider
This was a pretty cool video, rig dig the underglow on the drifter
Production (especially Music) is freaking awesome ❤️🎶
If anyone ever had questions about learning on a simulator and translating that knowledge to real life, machine learning can do it, so humans should be able to as well. If I'm not mistaken someone actually did put in hours on a simulator to try and find real world race car solutions to cut time.
Thanks for including the blooper
Which simulator did you use at 0:38.
Amazing work, good job guys! I love the little blooper at the end.
this, will change the future of stability control
I think this will be much better than actual stability control!
+1 for the underglow alone haha. Also, that crash with the sandle couldn't have felt good haha.
Excellent presentation and project.
Can’t wait to be drifting to work while having my coffee.
I really hope the eventual outcome of this is the use of this technology on a real drift can and eventually entering into a drift competition.
* posted 5 years ago* why this not a thing yet at full scale??
what kind of distance sensor did you use for this ?
Can u provide info on what kind of device is controlling the car? is it a computer interface to the transmitter, is it a standard car-radio-control manipulated by robotic fingers?
What is "observed data" part? Sensors? Video camera in room? Accelerometers?
Could you please tell me which simulation platform you used during the simulation episode?
Keiichi Tsuchiya needs to know about this!!
could you which micro controller did you use that it handled the machine learning computing or machine learning runing
tnx
This is amazing. I'm curious if you can develop this for a different application. My idea is to have it use this to figure out the fastest way around a track.
Do the inputs compensate for the lost power over longer test?
i love it when the music is louder than the voice
Which tool/simulation environment/software they used to simulate the car? Anyone knows? Thanks!
Hi !
may i ask which controller / processor you used in the car ?
Can your system handle higher traction tires and more power?
I'm impressed by the car's battery.
So cool! Loved the blooper at the end 😁