A white version of this would be the difference between these two sentences. "Fucking 'A', man!" "Fucking a man" 😉 Very different meanings based on which part of the sentence gets stressed.
black people say less: black people walk the walk more than talk black people, say less: you got it/youre on it and/or you dont even need to say it i already know whit people do less: white people talk more than walk white people, do less: white people, please stop your nonsense/tone it down im white, this is what i got. how did i do?
Jewels dropped by a sista! Tonal response is inflectional,as seen here. I do this very same thing.. Culturally spoken,this is Our language. HOW we "communicate ,without saying too much " is a skill folks learned from the early days of slavery to maintain connectivity and "privacy". I appreciate you bruh.
We brought this practice, this normative aspect of communication among us, into enslavement with us; no different than the plethora of other abilities. We used them to help us through the fire but they were not created in or because of it.
It makes me so proud that i kinda understand the underlining meaning! I have had lots of trouble all my life understanding what others would say, And now I have a whole new world of language to know!! Thank you Sunn!!
I'm a chronically online Australian English speaker. I know the two meanings of each set, but I don't know which was which. Australian can also be quite tonal but the way I would change my enunciation to communicate the same nuance in meaning is completely different to this video, and that is so interesting to me.
I teach this exact thing in my BAM the Roost of Black American Music class!! Meanings are conveyed by tone and that translates directly into the music we create!
I like to sing and I love music and one word I can think of that demonstrates this so well is “baby”. I think there must be an infinite number of ways to sing “baby” and infinite meanings! 😅
Yep! It is from my understanding for this reason, AAVE speakers would be able to easily pick up Igbo. The YT channel The Medicine Shell touched on this and it was fascinating.
Wierdly, dispite being both white and autistic, I (think?) I understand this. This is why I love the internet, being exposed to different communities, and different dialects and languages daily, and slowly learning. Love these videos as well!
Eye opening 👀 This made complete sense...it makes me feel so bad for people trying to learn English as a second language 🤔 We have not made it easy for them...
English is my second language, not AAE or gulla geeche or other creole based English no matter how 'connected' they first seem to English ( despite having a grammar of their own). nothing too feel bad about. those are different language. and you have not make it 'hard' you see. you are not in this picture. it's like if you said about a video on occidental Yiddish ( for example ) that 'germans made it harder for non germans to learn' no sense.
This is why, in linguistics, we define phonetic concatenations to semantically define a noun, action, or general part of a sentence to differentiate between the ambiguities that might arise when speaking in any language.
I love when we do this. It always reminds me of Bernie Mac’s MFer joke from Kings of Comedy 😂 So much inflection & placement that can totally change meaning!
So that’s what the word for that is! I am very far removed from speaking AAVE but I think I understood at least the left side pretty well. I’ve noticed that some people in my life just can’t understand or distinguish ‘mmm’s or other similar not-words by their intonation and it always surprises me when they don’t get it. Have no idea if this is an actual example of language evolving or just preference but it’s really cool!
We can let things be people. If people do not understand our language that is natural and doesn't require a free education. We shouldn't seek the validation of understanding, it does a lot to undermine the value of our productions. This is the language we are teased in school for but also used by others in marketing.
OMG and because we say less, we are always expected to put our thoughts and ideas in writing AKA Corporate Intellectual Property! Mmmmm, Hm! Edit 2... Wade In Da Water Y'all
As a white guy, it befuddles me of how other white people don't understand the context of the tone. Do less, or do more of the right thing? #weoutcheatoo
Holy f-ing algorithms, TH-cam just LOVES showing me old videos... That's okay because I'll keep watching them. I've accepted that however many I thought I saw, I still haven't seen them all from this channel... Now, on to responding to the actual video! Tone, intonation and stress are so important for human interaction... I'm convinced it's 90% of why things can get so heated online... My brother and sister once didn't speak to each other for a year after he was bad at using word choice to convey tone in an email. It never occurred to me, before watching this channel, that certain ethnic groups might use that particular communication tool more than others. If this is related to use of tone in some African languages, I wonder if Chinese first English speakers have different tonal inflections, too, since Mandarin is also tonal? This was a great demonstration.
I thought this was a female thing since I often observe women in general using more intonation than men regardless of race, expecially younger ones. Australians also seem use alot of intonation. But intonation in general is a part of English in general, as well as most languages. Almost all english speakers will use intonation differently on questions and when putting emphasis on certain words, that doesn't make it tonal. Tonal would be an individual word having a different meaning if the intonation is different, not the meaning of a sentence.
@SunnmCheaux You gave me a good laugh for the day. Another great example of our tonal talk and body blab can be found by a search for "Password's All-Star Celeb Finale with Keke Palmer and Yvette Nicole Brown with Jimmy Fallon. (If I knew how to provide the link via my phone I would do so, but I don't.)
I watched this a few times trying to understand .. she's talking about racism .. thats the only thing that makes sense to me as far as the "say less SAY LESS" "do less DO LESS" goes. I get it if that's the point she is trying to get across.
Even though you aren't one of us you can probably think of one of the elders in your family like a grandfather or great uncle who really didn't have to use many words for you to understand just what the hell you better not be doing.
@@sunnmcheaux the whole thing wdym ‘this’ what, dude your post are literally just minor racism that everyone looks over bc no one care what u have to say expect for the people u offend 💆🏼♂️ u and everyone of your ‘fam’ have got is ass backward ✌🏼 wE HeLPeD yOU
I get what she’s saying, but this is also a shitty generalization. Do you appreciate generalizations? Especially negative ones? I’m not what you think, please stop trying to lump me together with the shit of this world because the ones around me who slightly resemble me. Thank you 🙏
So I am sitting here in my apartment howling because I understood the conversation on both halves oh I love us
Yep!
Indeed!
If I needed any more confirmation that I’m white, this is it. I have no clue what just happened.
A white version of this would be the difference between these two sentences.
"Fucking 'A', man!"
"Fucking a man"
😉 Very different meanings based on which part of the sentence gets stressed.
@@WilliamHollister that was a great explanation. I'm borrowing this one.
😃 Well, that's Honesty for you.
You admitted you were clueless in this regard. That's very healthy.
Great day🌈☉ to you
This was a whole conversation!!!
black people say less: black people walk the walk more than talk
black people, say less: you got it/youre on it and/or you dont even need to say it i already know
whit people do less: white people talk more than walk
white people, do less: white people, please stop your nonsense/tone it down
im white, this is what i got.
how did i do?
Black ppl understood this conversation.
Yep
Jewels dropped by a sista!
Tonal response is inflectional,as seen here.
I do this very same thing..
Culturally spoken,this is Our language. HOW we "communicate ,without
saying too much " is a skill folks learned from the early days of slavery to maintain connectivity and "privacy".
I appreciate you bruh.
We brought this practice, this normative aspect of communication among us, into enslavement with us; no different than the plethora of other abilities. We used them to help us through the fire but they were not created in or because of it.
The intonation of the “mm” tells a thousand words
Yep!
I understood exactly what she said and I responded like he did.
idt he was responding, I think he was just highlighting the tones
Why did I totally understand the entire conversation 🙃
It makes me so proud that i kinda understand the underlining meaning! I have had lots of trouble all my life understanding what others would say, And now I have a whole new world of language to know!! Thank you Sunn!!
Greatness, in tiny little snippets💯👍🏿
I'm a chronically online Australian English speaker. I know the two meanings of each set, but I don't know which was which. Australian can also be quite tonal but the way I would change my enunciation to communicate the same nuance in meaning is completely different to this video, and that is so interesting to me.
OK. I like these instructions. I'll just go stand over there and listen.
I teach this exact thing in my BAM the Roost of Black American Music class!! Meanings are conveyed by tone and that translates directly into the music we create!
I miss visiting BAM.
I like to sing and I love music and one word I can think of that demonstrates this so well is “baby”. I think there must be an infinite number of ways to sing “baby” and infinite meanings! 😅
😂you have me crying she’s not lying though
Yep! It is from my understanding for this reason, AAVE speakers would be able to easily pick up Igbo. The YT channel The Medicine Shell touched on this and it was fascinating.
This is so important. I'm PoC and I understood... I feel seen with every one of your videos. Thank you very much for what you do.
Why did this make so much sense?
Exactly!
Nuff said!
Wierdly, dispite being both white and autistic, I (think?) I understand this. This is why I love the internet, being exposed to different communities, and different dialects and languages daily, and slowly learning. Love these videos as well!
Same on all accounts
As someone who fits both of the categories above and didn’t understand Anything please explain
@@joybreegaming8781 i also did not undertaand 💀
Eye opening 👀
This made complete sense...it makes me feel so bad for people trying to learn English as a second language 🤔
We have not made it easy for them...
English is my second language, not AAE or gulla geeche or other creole based English no matter how 'connected' they first seem to English ( despite having a grammar of their own).
nothing too feel bad about. those are different language. and you have not make it 'hard' you see. you are not in this picture.
it's like if you said about a video on occidental Yiddish ( for example ) that 'germans made it harder for non germans to learn' no sense.
This is why, in linguistics, we define phonetic concatenations to semantically define a noun, action, or general
part of a sentence to differentiate between the ambiguities that might arise when speaking in any language.
Preach! Say it like it is! Love every little bit of it!
Also, I should be forward in admitting I had no idea some ppl didnt understand what was being said......wow
I love when we do this. It always reminds me of Bernie Mac’s MFer joke from Kings of Comedy 😂 So much inflection & placement that can totally change meaning!
Priceless 💚🤌🏾
I just read some of the comments and I gotta say I love the village I've found through Sunn.
#BeautifulPeople❤
So that’s what the word for that is! I am very far removed from speaking AAVE but I think I understood at least the left side pretty well. I’ve noticed that some people in my life just can’t understand or distinguish ‘mmm’s or other similar not-words by their intonation and it always surprises me when they don’t get it. Have no idea if this is an actual example of language evolving or just preference but it’s really cool!
I'm European. I get it completely.
We can let things be people. If people do not understand our language that is natural and doesn't require a free education.
We shouldn't seek the validation of understanding, it does a lot to undermine the value of our productions.
This is the language we are teased in school for but also used by others in marketing.
OMG and because we say less, we are always expected to put our thoughts and ideas in writing AKA Corporate Intellectual Property! Mmmmm, Hm!
Edit 2... Wade In Da Water Y'all
And is, 👏🏾
As a white guy, it befuddles me of how other white people don't understand the context of the tone.
Do less, or do more of the right thing? #weoutcheatoo
Wow, you got it man! You did that!😊😊😊
Everybody does this lmao
Got it👈🏾👍🏾💚💯
*my tone impaired ass*
Amen.
Fav Creators 🤩🤩🤩😊
Holy f-ing algorithms, TH-cam just LOVES showing me old videos... That's okay because I'll keep watching them. I've accepted that however many I thought I saw, I still haven't seen them all from this channel... Now, on to responding to the actual video!
Tone, intonation and stress are so important for human interaction... I'm convinced it's 90% of why things can get so heated online... My brother and sister once didn't speak to each other for a year after he was bad at using word choice to convey tone in an email. It never occurred to me, before watching this channel, that certain ethnic groups might use that particular communication tool more than others. If this is related to use of tone in some African languages, I wonder if Chinese first English speakers have different tonal inflections, too, since Mandarin is also tonal?
This was a great demonstration.
I thought this was a female thing since I often observe women in general using more intonation than men regardless of race, expecially younger ones.
Australians also seem use alot of intonation.
But intonation in general is a part of English in general, as well as most languages. Almost all english speakers will use intonation differently on questions and when putting emphasis on certain words, that doesn't make it tonal. Tonal would be an individual word having a different meaning if the intonation is different, not the meaning of a sentence.
aaaaaaaaaaaaall of this, YES
Word!!!!!
@SunnmCheaux You gave me a good laugh for the day. Another great example of our tonal talk and body blab can be found by a search for "Password's All-Star Celeb Finale with Keke Palmer and Yvette Nicole Brown with Jimmy Fallon. (If I knew how to provide the link via my phone I would do so, but I don't.)
Yep. 👍
I watched this a few times trying to understand .. she's talking about racism .. thats the only thing that makes sense to me as far as the "say less SAY LESS" "do less DO LESS" goes. I get it if that's the point she is trying to get across.
I’m lost but yes
A statement and a request.
Tonal irony and tonal animo
Okay, so have to support this view of language... But also support punctuation 😂
😳 .... 😳 .... 🙄.... 😖 ... 😔 .... 🤔 d'oh!
Thanks for the confirmation that I am not white.
GIRL!!!
CHURCH 😂😂
I'm not black but I understood and now I'm beaming with an ear to ear grin
At 3am in the morning 😆
Even though you aren't one of us you can probably think of one of the elders in your family like a grandfather or great uncle who really didn't have to use many words for you to understand just what the hell you better not be doing.
Yes!!!
Word
That doesn't indicate its a tonal language
Could you translate this to White for us please?
The first orations of each set are statements. The second are requests.
@@Aritultrue dat
Mmmmhmmmm!
Mhmm
Ohhhhhh!
Is part of this a request?
Yes
Yaaaaaaaas
LOL
Ehhhh, hmmmmm. Meh?
Can someone get a translator
A statement and a request.
I know exactly what you mean
This isnt really tonal. Its stressing different words for a different meaning.
I mean
She said nothing of meaning
Hmmm….
Is this racist?
"This" what?
@Sunn m'Cheaux Video. The things she is saying. It's a question because I don't get it.
@@shanerRC To be honest, I don't get your question. Which part of what she said strikes you as racist? What was the racist thing said? 🤷🏿♂️
Nah, i wouldn't say it's racist. I do feel what she's sayin about white people tho. All the extra is in the wrong spot and what's needed is neglected
@@sunnmcheaux the whole thing wdym ‘this’ what, dude your post are literally just minor racism that everyone looks over bc no one care what u have to say expect for the people u offend 💆🏼♂️ u and everyone of your ‘fam’ have got is ass backward ✌🏼 wE HeLPeD yOU
Hippoty hoppity why is there a c4 on my property
I get what she’s saying, but this is also a shitty generalization. Do you appreciate generalizations? Especially negative ones? I’m not what you think, please stop trying to lump me together with the shit of this world because the ones around me who slightly resemble me. Thank you 🙏
Can relate
This person clearly doesn't understand the definition of a tonal language 🤦. Go listen to Mandarin!
Gay.. not deep
Wow I understood everything about that chat mmmhhhmmm.