IGN Is Terrible...
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- Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at what appears to be a revival of a controversy before the existence of my channel. Resident Evil 5 is a game mired in controversy over it's depiction of Africa. IGN seems to believe it most certainly can't be produced again. Are they in the right? Let's find out! Thanks for watching!
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RE4: Leon kills European zombies, and takes all treasures he can find
IGN: 😊
RE5: Chris kills African zombies, and takes all treasures he can find
IGN: 😡
This.
EXACTLY!!
Yeah, why is that?
Prepare for standards!
And make it double!
@@kl1thedominionthat was smart ngl
What makes this even funnier is that IGN gave RE5 a 9/10.
Back then when Ign had actually gaming Journalist that only focused on gaming.
@@iaqh or they just took the moneybag. journos and their ratings proven to be useless as they never give honest opinion, never mention game flaws and just shill for publisher who pays them for review.
Res5 is gud
Well it is at least at 8 so shaddap
Different person reviewed the game…it’s been years since that review and feelings on the game could change.
I'm from South Africa, and I can tell you that during traditional ceremonies everyone wears their traditional clothes in some cases it resembles the villagers in RE5
I'm asian and live in south Africa too, I have a black friend, me and him played RE 5 every weekend until we beat the game it was awesome
And geuss what??? We didn't give two s**ts about the race... In fact I played as Sheva (cause she was hot) and and he played as Chris
Race didn't even pop in our minds....
@@ByrgenworthGraduate Dude RE5 was my golden child for all of my childhood till today even, I'll hope on and try to S rank a level. This game was my dopamine farm to the point where I got every weapon maxed out with upgrades and then got another of every weapon maxed out, got all the collectibles and then went and S ranked every level on all difficulties for the fun of it. And never once during literal hundreds of hours of gameplay did I ask: is this racist?
the japanese developers based the tribal zombies off a tribe they met in Kenya that dressed like that when they visited their village to show them like, their cultural festival or whatever (you can see this in any documentary about south american brazilian tribes, the Yanomami mostly wear shorts and sneakers or flip-flops these days but every special shows them in tribal regalia and full body paint because they still dress that way for special events)
How dare they have predominently black enemies... in Africa... yeah... makes no sense...
I hear China has a big zombie panda problem
🤣
They might want to talk about re6 too since Chinese people become zombies in the game
i get the idea of the stereotypes and how it could be portrayed as stereotypical, but for a game reviewer website to green light a review like this is just plain fuckin stupid
@NetBattler and they called it the 'C' virus
It is very tiring to all of us who live outside of the US having absolutely everything been funneled through the United State's obsession with race.
US is like that one annoying kid at your school 😂
Believe me. We’re tired of it too… I hate it here rn.
lol majority of stuff is about race though sadly enough. Other countries hv the same problem like the UK and Canada
On behalf of America. I really do apologize. We hate it too
The IGN review, you can watch on youtube, is done by a British man. The UK is just as obsessed with race and hating white people fyi.
As an East African, I was absolutely excited to see my language in a game franchise that I grew up playing. Literally, everyone at our school knew RE5 and loved it. Hearing the zombies speak swahili so accurately was soooo cool.
But it's sorta weird how these Western media outlets assume our stance for us. Saying that the game has a racist undertone and is offensive to Africans. It's not... we can do the talking for ourselves if it was.
I kinda hate it when other non-related groups take it upon themselves to practice virtue signalling like it's their duty to speak for others.
I can guarantee none of these people making a fuss about the game have known an African or even been to Africa.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, the Africans depicted in the game were the racist ones lmao. You could hear most of them snarl and spout verbal abuse at Chris at times. Calling him words like "nguruwe mmarekani" which translates to "american pig". I found this hilariously edgy lmfao.
Yeah man people need to stop getting offended for other people like those groups will know if something is offensive or not
WRONG THE GAME IS RACIST RACIST GAME RACIST GAME
FREE GAME FREE GAME WHY NOT MAKE IT VERY FREE
@@brettthebest3978WRONG THE GAME IS RACIST CUZ IT DOESNT LET US PLAY AS AFRICANS
@NigerianCrusader WHAT
Also, it's weird to call Resident Evil racist when you could argue that (to some degree) the virus'/parasites' have always been an allegory for racism. Like, come on: corporation founded & run by rich white people using their wealth and position of power over impoverished people to torture and (literally) dehumanize them? It's an easy connection to make.
It's like you said: IGN is speaking for Africans, which is ridiculous, because only people from Africa could rightly look at depictions of their home and people and decide if it feels stereotypical/insulting or not.
Can't spell ignorant without IGN 😂
true
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Very true 😂😂😂
i can
Pffftaaaa haha nice!😂
Okay, so the plot in a nutshell of RE5 is:
Wesker gets access to Plagas from Ada Wong by some means. He uses Tricel to develop both Plagas Type 2 and Uruboros. Uruboros is not a Plagas strain, it is actually a Progenitor strain. The Progenitor Virus is the mother virus to the T, G, and T-Veronica viruses. It comes from a flower called the Stairway to the Sun which exists in the region of West Africa the game takes place in. Wesker needed a base sample. In a certain subset of the human population consuming this flower grants what are believed to be godlike superhuman abilities. Wesker makes this Uruboros with the goal of spreading it across the whole world and letting the weak be culled leaving the fortunate. The vast majority of people would become goopy monsters but like 1% would become basically the next stage in human evolution, of which Wesker thought himself one of them and would rule over the new world order as a god. If anyone's the uncomfortable allegory in this game its Wesker, the bad guy.
The sad truth is Chris is there to basically clean up something unsalvageable at this point, and there are lots of African BSAA members so it's just weirdly unhinged shallow-reading of the material. Chris doesn't see himself as better. He sees himself as woefully behind the eight ball and just trying to stop the world from getting killed by a WHITE BLONDE MAN.
Hot take: if a shallow read can make people think your game is racist, you're a bad writer.
Like, I get the argument that Sheva is one of the two protagonists and the game has lots of lore about why we're in Africa and how you're really trying to stop some guy who's trying to do a fascism. The problem is that *nobody cares about RE lore* enough to do the deep read required to actually arrive at that conclusion. What they see is "fun zombie game", they play it, they get to the level where you shoot up an entire African tribe, it makes the (presumably white) gamer feel uncomfortable, they stop playing, and they call the game racist, which isn't accurate to the source material but it *is* accurate to how they read it.
If a writer wants their work to be interpreted a particular way, they need to actually ensure they put all the information necessary to reach that conclusion right in front of the player. It can't be skippable lore.
Heavily disagree, you can argue you can skip lore of any videogame ever by skipping it cutscenes, people also hate being forced on lore. RE's never strong point was on lore aspects.
Put one and two together seeing how villagers force in first cutscene on the parasite and you will see aren't themselves, and they execute brutally the butcher that gives your equipment. he's african and agent part of bsaa group.
@@SuperSmashDolls
Elden Ring and souls games also let people skip 90% of lore and ppl like to discuss it make their own thoughts.
Horror games also have always done extra lore on diaries, extra document notes, for those who enjoy it. RE4 remake is no expection, you can read documents and notes on las plagas, the regenerators and other mutants is all optional.
This just goes to show how some people lack culture and put 0 seconds thoughts. for a japanese game back in 2009 its well done. If you are unwillingly to do any research, look up thats also on you part of the game. its like arguing a book or a media is bad without wanting to understand it and just first thoughts.
I guess God Of War is just Kratos mindless killing people. Nier automata is just a dumb robot game. You can simplify and call any game bad writing by just first thoughts. curiosity and knowledge is what can drive humans.
@@SuperSmashDollsNo you do not need to read, to get that, just to stop and watch some cutscenes.
The only part one needs to read the files, is to understand what exactly happened.
And honestly, why can we not have nuance and unreliable narrative any more? not that RE5 use those, it quite straight to the point.
Heck, most of the actually bad people are not black, except one and is clear why (conspiracy).
Like... have you actually did play the game?
@@SuperSmashDolls You... you know I didn't mean a literal read of the material. I meant read as in take in information. Like, "I read the room." or "I got a read on the guy."
While you do have to go into the files a bit to learn some specifics like exactly what Wesker did, the plot beats are delivered via cutscenes.
Hotter take: If you're just going to skip engaging with the narrative at all, don't espouse an opinion on the subtext of the narrative.
"Like, I get the argument that Sheva is one of the two protagonists and the game has lots of lore about why we're in Africa and how you're really trying to stop some guy who's trying to do a fascism."
FULL STOP.
WTF are your intentions with the rest of your statement? How can "nobody care about RE lore" while in the same breath make your first statement? You are being deliberately ignorant and obfuscatory as well as incredibly bad faith. And just because others may be admittedly bad faith about the product doesn't mean you have to stoop to their level to virtue signal on their behalf.
Have a spine.
This was a stupid take back in 2009 and it's still stupid 15 years later
Perhaps more idiotic because it’s literally just a regurgitation of the faux controversy surrounding the game that NO ONE took seriously.
Even more dumb now because nobody believes this is a genuine take but just a way to get attention.
It worked TBF but everyone saw it coming a mile away and is relentlessly mocking them.
I was just about to comment this 😂 you're absolutely right
Re2 spoilers ahead.
How come I never heard people complain about the option to kill the black officer Marvin when he turns into a zombie? What’s the damn difference?
People who have opinions that this is “racist” are just going to ruin future games.
WRONG THE GAME IS RACIST
Bruh, fighting infected Spanish villagers in re4 is fine but infected Africans isn't. Ign is trash.
Spanish people are white, Black people are not Black when dead.
They are good a rage bait apparently
What do you expect from a pony fanboy lol
@@NetBattlerwhat dafuq how is this related to Sony are you okay son
Would you say that the level of murder, rape, exploitation, oppression and abduction the Spanish experienced by the hands of non-europeans throughout history is at the same level of murder, rape, exploitation, oppression and abduction the african people experienced by the hand of non-africans throughout history?
The funniest part of this is that it was debated when the game first came out and black members of the dev team had to speak out and call these journalists idiots before it finally died down. I’m shocked it’s even being brought up again.
IGN needs something so they can stay relevant
These people were just fine with the Spanish being shown as some 19th century peasants in RE4
@JaviNobody Ye, it's just the fact that they all of a sudden call on racism while saying that RE4 is perfectly fine for whatever reason.
I just love that people screaming racism just tend to showcase their own racist nature somehow.
I don't even want to mention that the article essentially just is *points finger* "they look different" and what that tells about whoever wrote it and whoever decided that it should be published.
@JaviNobodytf your roots have to do with any of it
They see what they want to see, and there's nothing wrong with RE4 either, my grandparents were born in the basque country, I know a lot about spain and I never once had an issue with RE4 because it's a game for crying out loud.
Right and then hillbillies in 7? Europeans in village?
You are an American, not a Spanish person. World doesn't revolve around you. @JaviNobody
IGN finally Figures out that Africa has Africans on it
They probably thought res 5 was in detroit or something
@@IbnRushd-mv3fpRE5's environments are too upscale to be Detroit.
The shock! The horror!
DYK: every 60 seconds, a minute passes in Africa.
@@ThisNameIsVeryClever "every donation we receive will go to a poor, malnourished, and struggling CNN camera crew..."
The main antagonist being “Black people” when the main villain in the game is Wesker who is the whitest character in resident evil
Not to mention the game never pain african people as evil, but a victim of evil people that experiment on them. The problem with this journos is that they are the racist one, because they see race issues in everything.
Wesker only makes the depiction *more* accurate, not less.
Wesker is literally a blond hair white guy. Give him blue eyes and you can call him Bob or Jim.
Looks like they went with the series's Wesker
Actually, Resident Evil 5 is important. It was the Boulder Punching Chris scene that ultimately made them step back after the lukewarm reception (though great sales) of 6 and decide to get back to roots with 7.
well they did bring buff chris back in RE8 and went so far as to reference the boulder punching scene. so they kept the fan favorites of RE5.
boulder punching scene is epic
yeah bollywood got stupid fast
"Get back to roots with 7"
I didn't know being an Outlast-style first person screamer-streamer bait game was going back to Resident Evil's roots...
@@MagcargoManPretty sure "back to roots with 7" was referring to going from Action focused back to the horror type of setting, theme, atmosphere, and tone, NOT gameplay. We know RE7 has completely different gameplay from the old games. So yeah, of course it's not going back to the roots of the series in that aspect. But it is a horror game is it not? It's way more horror than 4, 5, and 6, yes? So, yes, it was going back to the roots in the aspect that it brought back the focus on the fact that RE is a survival horror franchise. And 8 came proving that there was no shame in the series having adventurous elements by trying to be like RE4 with a more obvious survival horror vibe.
I literally live in Africa and never thought of this when I played the game.
Gaming journalism is nuts.
yep. back then lots of gamers here also were hoping their countries would be the shown in game. it's like africa is not monolyth, show us each countries like how they show the differences among japan, korea, and china.
Nah. The game having Africans living in huts, wearing straw skirts and chuckling spears to me is a given. It's quite racist. Like, come on, are we just gonna ignore that?
@@laughingseal2282but there's some tribes who live like that
@@laughingseal2282 nearest village like that from my hometown is around 2h by train plus 1-2h by car. are you calling that racist? are you that ignorant?
@@outerlast
>Outerlast
>Account created 2023
>Country USA
Stop LARPING, regard. I know you are not from Africa. lol.
IGN definitely locked the reply’s because in Resident Evil 5 Africa has black Zombies. ☠️😭
They still haven't turn off the TH-cam comment section
@@NetBattler their corpo lords don't use Return Dislikes so they don't need to take down the video anymore.
Josh Stone's VA, TJ Storm, just scoffed at the idea of racism. "The games were previously set in America, Antarctica, Spain. It wasn't racist then, why would it be racist now?"
They aren't zombies. Not every RE game has zombies. Actually I think only 1 through 3 have zombies.
They are infected with oroborus or something like that and in later game they are like experiment victims, still having to do with oroborus I believe but not entirely sure.
Not the biggest fan of RE. 5 was my first real experience and it was awesome back in the day. But they aren't zombies.
@@outofpowder It's Las Plagas that they're infected with.
I just watched a RE5 retrospect video and they brought this up. Fun fact when they showed the E3 footage Sheva wasn't even developed fully yet. Even the African American VA's didn't think about it at all, in fact they pointed out RE had taken place in Antarctica, Spain ect.
IGN keeps thinking history started in 2020, and they keep having shit takes.
NOPE HISTORY STARTED IN 1804 WITH THE BIRTH OF HAITI
Nothing existed prior to Floyd overdosing
@@CopMortylike Pink Floyd?
@@blackheartaesthetic4432 precisely
My brothers and I are black and never once thought this game was racist.
Seriously, and this is the resident evil game I want to have a remake of the most, I had so much fun playing this with my childhood friend. Not once did I get offended and think this game was seriously racist. In general, I'm tired of people getting offended on other people/race's behalf. It honestly erases all nuance, and make people ignore whatever surrounding context exists.
@@JO-hs1ueLike it's not even an insult to Africans, there is no intention present in the game that mocks and encourages hate against Africans.
Everyone is like "Africa, Another place that's a victim to bioweapon monstrosities."
I'm black too and my initial reaction when I first saw the trailer was
Hey cool I've never seen black zombies before
Had me thinkin once I found out
You know what?
Voodoo African zombies sounds pretty damn cool if that was the case.
I personally didn't know anyone who found it racist.
@@FAMCHAMP If I remember correctly I think the term zombie or came from or had some of it's roots to Vodun or some similar religion (Voodoo is the pop culture term for it, btw did you know it has different spellings"), if I also remember right, the whole reanimating the dead thing is seen as dark arts, frowned upon in Vodun.
The maneating aspect part came from creatures called Ghouls, which I think had middle eastern roots?
Sorry I got off topic but I wanted to share cool facts
@@ghostlyhousehorrors
Interesting
I had no idea
as a black man i see no issue with RE5. it takes place in africa for crying out loud. If most of the enemies werent african there would be an issue. the series has taken place all over the world, from urban downtown raccoon city to back water lousiana, Antarctica, cartel controlled south america, the white house, small european towns and asia. africa needed representation too. only place left is the final boss of survival horror. Australia.
Yaaaah
Out of touch? Man those people complaining didn't care when shooting middle eastern people or other non-black characters.
exactly lol, they didn't seem to care about it at all, let alone 2009 when the Iraq War was still going on, Afghanistan, and nations like Papua New Guinea which still is going through a 40 year conflict
Or Asian
69th like, noice
normal people with functioning brain can tell these "journalist" doesn't really care and only doing what's meta for their own gain, the problem is those gullible people that taking it at face value
What game(s) are you referencing here?
It's weird how 4 has no pushback, shooting waves of Spanish zombies, over and over...
As well as Chinese people in Resident Evil 6.
Not enough melanin brother
Talk about double standards...
As well as Americans in 1 2 3
And whoever the mofos are in re8 that become the wolves
It’s all just random people virtual signaling
Look, all I want in the RE5 remake is a few enemies who use kung fu as a shout out to Who Killed Captain Alex.
Because as we all know, everyone in Uganda knows kung fu.
COMMANDO! COMMANDO!
HAIYAAAAAA
You get a like for even knowing about that movie, sir.
Wesker hires Tiger Mafia to do his dirty work
The word “racism” has genuinely lost all meaning at this rate with how garbage like this gets pumped out.
Thanks to these Twitter mobs
I don't think we reached that point yet. But throwing around that word so much definitely degrades it's impact.
@@NetBattlerno one actually thinks it’s racist it’s just media being hyperbolic
It’s just projection
The real racists are the one who constantly scream racism.
With a bit of digging, the blonde lady in RE5 actually has an entire backstory and reason for being in the region. There was a blog called enterkijuju that was basically just a marketing thing that Capcom did for the game. It’s about how Allison’s (the lady) boyfriend is a photographer, and was doing some work in Africa. The last entry on the blog was dated a couple weeks before the game came out in North America.
Yet without the digging, it's reasonable that people raised an eyebrown at that scene, specifically. After killing giant hordes of poc zombies, outta nowhere there's this European looking girl in need of saving.
@@pocoloco753 I was mostly confused due to the lack of backstory, it comes out of nowhere but I still don't understand what's wrong with the scene, I'm not sure what you guys see in it, after thinking about it for a while I can only think that the scene implies a rape but I'm not sure if that's what you guys mean.
Allison as in resident evil outbeeak Allison?
I don't think the developers meant to do anything insulting with her. She was simply there to stand out as the first Majini with a Plaga sprouting out of the neck (in RE4 they also dedicate an entire spearate scene to the first Plaga Guy). She was ust white to stand out and for her help screams to be in English
Yep
I don't think the parasite 'regresses' anything about them as much as it sends it's victims mad in their own way.
The first area you see affected is also engaging in a social-gathering-hype behaviour, they're ganging up and demonstrating against something, (I always suspected it was Tricell)
The isolated villagers were likely maintaining their culture with festival gatherings regularly, in the same way many places around the world do.
The Army infected were already part of a tight-knit group.
Later BOWs also seem to have weird family or ingroup-outgroup structures of behaviour too, so I wonder if Umbrella were playing with the chemicals that reinforce familial or social bonds among infected deliberately.
Jesus, I didn't realise I thought that deeply about this B-movie loving game series.
They should have had white zombies in West Africa only!
But then IGN would have probably blogged about how Capcom were misappropriating the african demographic.
Lol the few colonizers lol.. thre weren’t that many so it’d be a short game 😂
There were some lighter skinned zombies, not a lot but I distinctly remember one that looked like stalin
@@tetov1620there was one that looks like saddam Hussein
@@ultimatespidybawlz2198 we might be thinking of the same one lol
@@npcimknot958 bro what 98% of Africa got colonize it’s more than a few
Remember when they called out Kingdom Come Deliverance for not having black people?
Yes they wanted black people in XIII century Bohemia
Remember when they got angry because the zombies were too white in days gone? Which apparently made the game have to many white ppl. They connected monsters to modern day race ideology
As some who actually studied 13th century Bohemia in High School, that made me lose brain cells that I will never recover. It’s like when Netflix actively tried to convince people that Cleopatra was African when we all DEFINITELY knew that she was Macedonian-Greek, a little too Greek due to the inbreeding
Then they proceeded to do the same with FF16, and I think they might have said something similar about Ghost of Tsushima.
@@redcobra6016 and in Shogun TV series
Hilarious how its racist not to have black people in a game, but having them in game is also racist.
hillarious how u missed the entire point of the video
I’ve only seen the internet unite in two scenarios:
1. Defending Akira Toriyama against racist allegations
2. Defending Resident Evil 5 against racist allegations.
Makes you think…
Unfortunately someone defending IGN and I quote "defending common sense"
glass stones in a thrown house
They’re literally juggling stones in their safe gated community glass condos.
Both issues done by certain political activists that say they want unity and inclusion lol
@@NetBattler: Why is it, I wonder, that the ignorant are always so ironic? The one thing that would have stopped that article from being published in the first place would have been if the editor at IGN had just a little, “common sense.”
"it really makes you feel like a racist"
9/10
What would make it a 10 out of 10
@@jackmcglion8337 verbal racist slurs?
@@jackmcglion8337Shouting the N word at enemies
@@Bomberman66Hell in the parts of africa where people speak portuguese "negro" just means black people, like in spanish.
RE5 African Enemies = Bad , while:
RE1, RE2, RE3 American Enemies: Good
RE4 Spaniard Enemies : Good
RE6 Chinese Enemies :Good
RE7 American Enemies: Good
RE8 Romanian Enemies : Good
RE5 became a bit of a mess for Capcom as the whole "experimenting on impoverished Africans" is a very hot button topic. They did a complete 180 and removed Shiva and the African continent silhouette from the cover and put Chris & Jill on it instead. And then there was the bonus outfits, Shiva in tribal Zulu gear wasn't a big deal. However, considering how capcom has taken a flaming dump on each and every ONE of the female outfits for each remake, it won't be a shock that it will be censored. **And spare me about 'mods', these games are made to move consoles first and foremost meeting DEI guidelines PC is a after thought.
Eh, I dunno, Ada and Ashley still look pretty in the RE4 Remake as they did before in the OG RE4.
That’s just you.
Although, I have to ask,
why are you angry about what female characters in games wear and why there won’t be any mods towards such clothing or outfits yet to accommodate yourself?
Sounds kind of red flag-ish to me.
Oh, and to add to my point from before,
you’re like the type to complain about how female video-game characters are not at all objectified via wearing revealing clothes yet complain when other video games have them wear clothes that don’t make them stand out as revealing.
Kind of like the same logic of complaining about why realistic women in games don’t look as majestic or as beautiful as fictionalized anime and/or cartoon-styled chicks.
@@justaguyonyoutube4592hey man we like pretty women, you like men. It’s all good. You dont need to hate on our preferences and we don’t need to hate on yours
What a dense take, you think umbrella corp doing experiment on black people only??? What about Asian and Spanish?
@@NetBattler
You were expecting to see a good take from SOG fanboys? lol from what I’ve seen as of currently, it looks to be unlikely.
I remember when the game came out, an Spanish game journalist wrote about the subject saying that Spanish gamers didn't complained about resident evil 4.
And black gamers didn’t complain about RE5
Well we can see African people that played the game seemed to also enjoyed it and loved hearing so much accurate Swahili. Some are tired of the West speaking for them too.
@@christopherwilliams1212 It is rarely the allegedly misrepresented or culturally appropriated people that complain. It's usually "progressive" white people getting outraged on their behalf. Which, if you think about it, is actually way more racist and condescending than most of the things they complain about. Virtue signalling much?
I always find it funny how even people who try to dispute stuff like this always find a way to blame it on white people. White people are a majority in western nations obviously, but there is absolutely no shortage of non whites who view things through this type of lens. You literally can’t get black people in particular in America to stop bitching about racism whether or not the situation is racist in the first place.
I’m black Japanese and white and I’m actually playing through it and enjoying it, people just try to look for problems when there isn’t one
*COMPLETE*
*JOURNALISTIC*
*SATURATION*
@@Mortis2435 7 minutes was all I had to spare for thinking of this comment.
Just add in the deep sigh at the end there lmao
Nope. Thanks, Wesker. I prefer the first plan, *COMPLETE. GLOBAL. SATURATION.*
I'd rather die from the Ouroboros Virus, than live on with cringe journalism forcibly embedded in my genes. . .
“YOUR MERLY POSTPONING THE INEVITABLE”
@@Silverblade416 *and how, pray tell, do you plan to STOP me?*
Should have replaced the villagers with blond haired, blue eyed Scandinavians.
Then they would still cry Racism cause lack of representation.
Anything to cry Racism about.
Could have Russians as Wagner were active in Africa around that time.
It would still be called racist, called whitewashing amd not representing the local population of the country it's set in.
@@ndh06 thanks for the mention of Wagner, of course they were started in 2014 Donbas, then they started to work as a PMC group in parts of Africa, strong and keeping security
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца my fail, sorry
People have a cartoonish idea of what actual racism is.
I was listening so intently, when I heard "...Chris puts on his Klan gear and walks down the streets of West Africa and just guns everybody down." The image of a Chris Redfield in a Klan costume is f-ing hilarious remembering everything that went down in the game.
Your comment with 18 likes somehow randomly shot to the top for me above a comment with 1.8K likes 👍
@@sporeGAnerd maybe since I mentioned "klan" I'm now monitored and put on a watch list until further notice.
Chris Klanfield
When asked about this during release, Josh's VA TJ Storm just scoffed at the idea. "The games were previously set in America, Antarctica, Spain. It wasn't racist then, why would it be racist now?"
Because it's impossible to be racist against white people.
Wtf didnt we do this back in 2009 already?
Back then Capcom even had the mocap actors also reiterate that the game was not racist and one of them even pointed out too that the games before had been set in America and Spain which no one complained then when it came to those games. I'd also like to point out that no one complained about it when a majority of Resident Evil 6 took place in China.
I mentioned the same reason time and time again on this channel, among others who delved into the topic! My capadres at Just Cause Entertainment are aware the reasons are ridiculous, and Resident Evil 5 was a product of it's time(considering RE4's success resulting with a wave of third-person shooters with slight horror themes that are action-based, such as Dead Space, and Gears of War), and the true reason why RE5 could be difficult to process into a remake is it's over-reliance on co-op.
China gets it much worse too iirc.
Old Capcom was based
I've yet to see any major game journalism organisation that doesn't have its fair of stupid shit. Remember when Kotaku accused Persona 5 of having the r word in the song Last Surprise because they misheard the line "Retort it" and didn't even bother to do a quick google search to fact check?
"Black people aren't allowed to be zombies" ~ Politically Correct Liberal Journalist
@@John-X I wonder if there was any backlash for RE6 for having black zombies in Edonia levels, or chinese zombies in the Asia levels.
To be fair, Kotaku doesn't really count as a "major game journalism organization."
Remember when one of the higher up journalists at Kotaku was a racist who was harassing a discord server trying to dox random people?... Like last week? Regarding the sweet baby Inc situation.
Nintendo no longer interested in Kotaku anymore lol
Racists see racism everywhere.
Exactly, no one is as racist,sexist and divisive as the far left hypocrites.
Yes
I hope Capcom doesn't read all these ignorant articles and think the gamers want them to "Rewrite" their games to fit a "Modern" audience because that would really suck.
The creator of resident evil definitely would disagree to rewrite since you have to do everything from start back...
@@NetBattler Yeah but who wrote RE5?
@@charaznable8072 The game's scenario was written by Haruo Murata and Yoshiaki Hirabayashi, based on a story idea by concept director Kenichi Ueda.
Honestly, the fact that the writer included the detail about it 'not being festival day' and that the warpaint was a tradition, with cultural significance that was out of place and not supposed to be used.. That alone is a surprising amount of cultural insight and care for a JAPANESE HORROR GAME made ALMOST TWO DECADES AGO. They actually did put some thought into it. I didn't expect that.
Yeah, there's a ton more going on below the surface on that game. Another detail (per the notes in the wiki) is that the tribal group there is explicitly designed to _not_ match a real world tribal group, so they were trying to make original artwork/clothing/weapons/etc. to match their mythology (which is tied in explicitly to the flower and the mutations it would cause).
It's a ragebait article. It's very obvious the author has never played the game before. They're lying about what happens in the game so somebody gives their crap site traffic once every 100 years
Resident Evil Lore Expert here:
1st: There actually is lore for the blonde woman, however it's not in the game. There was promotional material in the form of a blog from the perspective of a man living in Kijuju, who mentions the woman.
2nd: Las Plagas isn't a virus, it's a parasite.
3rd: The C-virus was not developed by Wesker, but rather by Derek Simmons with the help of a scientist by the name of Carla Radames for the purpose of cloning Ada Wong (Simmons never got over her rejecting him) and ensuring a sort of "world order" in the name of an Illuminati type group. While some of the data developed from Plagas helped with the development of the C-virus, Plagas itself is not present in RE6. Unlike Plagas, which are administered by injecting an egg or shoving a Plaga into someone's mouth, C-virus is only spread in a gaseous form. The first use of it was in a manga called Marhawa Desire, which was intended to be a prequel to 6.
4th: Kirk, or Hat Trick, is an amazing pilot, he gave Jill the awesome present of a rocket launcher in Revelations so she could shoot an infected whale.
5th: I have not heard anyone complain about when Leon and Krauser killed zombie hispanics created by a cartel leader in Darkside Chronicles, at least not to this degree.
Oh Muta was talking about Kirk? I thought he was talking about Doug who sacrificed himself in desperate escape.
@@Enzed_ Muta mentioned Chris becoming an alcoholic partially because of the pilot's death. Chris didn't know Doug as far as we know, but he did personally know Kirk from working together in multiple missions. I'd say Kirk was the more likely candidate for whom Muta was referring to.
@@wyattwebb6963 hmmmm, but Kirk didn't die in RE6 when Chris became an alcoholic tho. And I don't remember Kirk saving their lives in the game. He only shot the gate open. The chopper that rescued Chris and Sheva in the lava mountain belonged to Doug.
@@Enzed_ Shooting the gate open was a way of getting them out of trouble. In 6, Chris has become an alcoholic due to his head injury causing amnesia, however he would have had bits and pieces of the men he has worked with, causing more anguish. If Josh told Chris about Doug, I don't think Chris would have had a deep connection to Doug even if the chopper belonged to him, at least not deep enough to contribute to his drinking. I still think Kirk is the most likely candidate for whom Muta is referring to, though since he wasn't exactly clear we would need him to answer that.
"so she could shoot an infected whale."
Japanese whalers: "Jirr-sama... Sugee"
Using IGN for gaming news is the old version of using TikTok for any news
Yeah because our mainstream media is so reputable and honest lol
I hope you're insulting tiktok and IGN in the same comment. I can't tell exactly.
Or Twitter
I was trying to find this analogy. This is great.
I AM GROOT!!!
I never heard Spanish people complaining about being massacred by Leon in RE4. Is just the location, it could be anywhere and people will look the way they usually look whatever region they place the game in.
Capcom gave IGN a months worth of exclusive coverage for Dragons Dogma 2 and this is how they repay them hhh
I hope Capcom will ignore them after this..
Which is ironic because their capture footage is subpar at best. It’s like they captured to footage at 720p and compressed 720p at that
I'm excited for DD2 since it'll be a sneak peek for what's to come with MH Wilds. It's like DD to World's regarding the game engine
Capcom is also giving streamers early access to Dragon's Dogma 2, and in preparation, they're playing 1 and getting completely filtered because none of them can read, especially Asmogold. Streamers are exactly as stupid as game journalists.
@@NetBattler rather than ignore, I hope they and any employees get blacklisted forever, lol
It's a damn shame we got all the technology and advancements of graphics in gaming but the people behind the gaming spaces are mostly clowns now and most of the journalists are too. NOT ALL. MOST
Do you mean the developers or just IGN in general? Cause I'm pretty sure not all of them are clowns
Couldn't agree more.
imagine how far along gaming would be if it werent invaded by activists with ulterior motives
@@A_Random_Guy_In_The_Comments I was thinking the exact same thing, when I look at myself all what I'm seeing is that I only replay the old but gold classics instead of looking for new ones because of the woke agenda.
Too many clowns in western game industry yes.
So….they were Perfectly fine with Spanish villagers being depicted as savage monsters in resident evil 4?
I guess but the real with stuff I guess idk tuff I cause wouldn't no about how anyone of color will feel the games depiction of other the races or different places I guess should be really careful with it remake
@@dblegendsnoob-u8n its literally IGN trying to farm hate for the RE5 remake by injection political messaging about race when the game isn’t about race it’s about a virus taking control of people, it just happens to take place in Africa. like no one was even taking about it, they brought it up trying to shine a light that didn’t need to. It’s dumb that they raise that argument but completely ignore resident evil 4 remake. They were praising RE4 remake.
pure racism from their part
Racial double standards
The blonde woman is Allyson, she's the girlfriend of one of the workers. She was part of the foreign workers who were brought into the region to help in rebuilding the area after a civil conflict. That's why you see Majini who look like they didn't come from Africa, they were kidnapped to be infected.
God forbid a game set in Africa use African people as its population. This IGN article made me scoff much like I did when the game originally came out and people said it was racist. People just try to find things to be offended by these days. I hope Capcom doesn't change too much about the game in the remake. RE5R is the remake I'm most looking forward to, because I've been dying for an amazing co-op game. It's a dying breed and RE5R can save the cooperative scene.
This is why we can't have nice things anymore.
what would they've prefered, changing the setting of the game to somewhere like south africa or something? would they have prefered if the game was set on the apartheid? they're simply disgusting.
Honestly Resident Evil 5 Stands up to date. Is like wanting to do a remake of Black Ops 2. 2009 and onwards games are good in the graphics department. Like what's next Biohazard 6 remake? Come on
@@nubeZamurai-mh9pq Yeah I agree, 360 gen onward has aged exceptionally well.
What I don't understand about this 'controversy' is that RE is a universe where the whole WORLD gets infected with different variations of the virus, leaving behind only a small no. of survivors. So i can see why the Japanese would find the African land and Geology a very interesting setting for a RE game. If they ever decide to make one for India, I think it would be interesting.
In the game, Wesker combines the las plagues with a flower called Sonnentreppe that came from Germany it grows in West Africa and he was able to make the Uroboros another type of the virus. I think it’s funny how they pick out Africa, but literally resident 4 was in a part of Spain. They totally took the game context and I think that this game really ties into the lore of the game as a whole. Out of all my love of games, RE is my favorite and I grew up with it. I can’t wait to play the remake!
Sonnentreppe was a flower endemic to the region inhabited by the Ndipaya, but otherwise yes. Uroboros seems like it was basically a super-plague created thanks to research made on both parasitic (Las Plagas) and viral agents (T-virus and others), even though it's never clearly explained how it was designed.
The Progenitor Virus coming from Africa had been hinted at for years prior to RE 5's release. RE Zero dropped the largest hints, followed by the now-mostly-considered-non-canon Dead Aim in a file where Morpheus Duvall states that the "power" of the virus originated in Africa.
weker combines the the plagues?
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Since when is Dead Aim non-canon?
IGN won't affect sales of a remake of RE5. I'd bet stock on it.
That’d probably sell more tbh
They will pull battle network 2
Yup just look at Hogwarts Legacy
It's important to discuss these subjects such as depictions and representations in games, like Resident Evil 5. However, this shouldn't stop the game from being remade, provided they address certain aspects sensitively. These games are products of their time and should be seen as such.
I love it when the ignorance of *gaming journalist* results in the Internet collectivity uniting to roast them.
Remember when they simply reported on video games?
It doesn't help when you put an entire group into the same basket. It like saying all westerners are colonizers and barbarians.
Literally didnt think twice about black zombies.
Just like I never thought twice about white zombies in the other games.
This issue is so stupid🤦♂️
God I hate humanity sometimes.
Same lool 😂 .. and it’s funny cause in movies and shows.. peopel would lineup to be shot as a zombie.. loool.. cause THEY”RE walking ded.. you don’t see colour their rotting green
I honesly like that it took place in Africa, as an African, I have no problem with this, its unique and it feels good to see us in some media. These people are offended on our behalf
You guys remember when IGN said the MW reboot was the “most divisive game of E3 2019”? That’s arguably got to be the biggest showcase of how much of a circus those guys are for me 💀
NOT TRUE IGN IS GOOD AND THE GAME IS RACIST
One of my favorites. Would play as Wesker in mercenaries mode for hours.
Barry’s a peak character in that mode, too
@@Flinch9000Barry was incredibly good in merc Re5, him and wesker were my favorites to play
I got this one on PS and Steam, hit me up.
Excella tho. Real goated character.
@@cynicalaries6201 I got it on PS and Steam too!
I love the library menu music in this game when you’re looking at the archives. So good 👌
at this point, their only lifeline is ragebait.
I wouldn’t say the spears and face paint are a cartoonish depiction of an African tribe because there are still tribes that exist today exactly like that.
No, how dare they showcase some of the more unique and interesting aspects.
IGN's take is basically two things:
White video game characters should _never_ be allowed to kill black characters, no exceptions.
And black zombies are still black. White zombies, however, are just zombies.
My conclusion: IGN is downright racist.
Most game journalists are payed based on the amount of articles they make. And the companies make money based on how many clicks they get. So they’re incentivised to make a fuck load of low quality articles that bait you with outrageous headlines.
Is this always true?
@@assassin8636 no idea
Convinced ign just makes outrageous articles for engagement bait. Their integrity is a joke.
@@assassin8636 most game journalists today, hate the gamers and are more interested in pushing the globalist agenda.
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I miss Sheva so much,
can't wait for RE5Re. 💚💜
Cool hearts
Sheva has a special place in my heart 🖤
She is so pretty 😍
@@NetBattlershe is my favorite designed Japanese character because she is so unique looking.
@@TheBlargMarg japanese artist know their stuff
The Zulu peoples of Southern Africa still uses spears, grass skirts, and shields wearing barely any clothing for all their formal ceremonies and some of the more "traditional" families shun all technology in general and live as their ancestors did. It is not racist to depict native Africans as they actually live when they choose to be on the outskirts of modern society.
Furthermore, Spaniards in RE4 were literally depicted as dumb peasants who unironically follow a Lord in a fucking castle, and not one person ever said it was racist.
Side note, whose to say Chris AND Sheeva aren’t finding lost gold and gems either scattered or held by monsters in area that can’t really use them and aren’t selling them back to local BSAA for aid in supplies and what not that would use the money to heal Africa after the story.
Back with this game came out, Ben Croshaw, better known as Yahtzee, made a joke about the original controversy. He was referring to Capcom but this statement can be said about game “bloggers” who think they are journalists:
“They’re not bad people. They’re just idiots.”
I'm willing to bet the very same Ben Croshaw would be perfectly fine to call that game at best "unappropriated" or at worst "racist".
Nah, I'm firmly of the believe that they are indeed bad people. You rarely find one of these people who actually believes their own BS. Most of them use it for manipulation and power. I'd confidently wager the majority of them are diagnosable sociopaths.
@@Pers0n97 So you didn't watch that review I took that joke from, because if you did you'd realize he actually defended the decision by pointing out the obvious and mocked the people calling it "racist".
Ben is certainly a Leftie but he doesn't engage in online drama. And he did work The Escapist who were the only legacy games media that allowed discussions on their forums during the height of GamerGate.
Can you send the link?
@NathanCassidy721 so you didn't keep up with Ben and saw how he, like every journos, devolved into further and further far leftism.
its weird how if the characters were reversed say all the zombies were white, no one would have an issue. Its only an issue if they are black zombies...
The tribe in Re5 is different from normal African tribes though, they're actually one of the first people to come across the "Progenitor Virus" which is basically a predecessor to the Zombie virus in Re games, I think it comes from a flower and the tribes always use it so their culture is based on that. 17:12
It's the same virus that's to blame for Wesker becoming a super human bad ass. Because it already existed in his system when the Tyrant impaled and infected him the virus didn't really take over his cells, it just augmented them. It's still unclear whether that effect was intentional or not because Wesker was one of many clones infected with the Progenitor virus. If I remember right he's the only one who survived it.
WRONG OH MY GOD THIS GAME IS SO RACIST
Sheeva and Josh are some of my favorite characters in the franchise.
I'll admit, I find the plot of 5, and the lack of horror of 5 frustrating; but the mechanics of 5 (and yes the partner system is part of it) are some of my favorites.
I’m confused.. racism is hating on someone because of there race isn’t it? I don’t remember Chris redfield doing that, maybe I need to replay the game because I don’t remember any racism
IGN Also won't show the scene where Dutch beats Dillon in the Predator arm wrestle, the Streetfighter 2 arcade intro or the final fights in Rocky 2 or 3.
"IGN Is Terrible."
In other news, the sky blue, the grass is green, and water is wet.
"Water isn't wet" I hope you get the video reference lol
@@captainchaosxx3866 Do you take joy in killing jokes or something?
When i played this game i didn't see anything overtly racist, but the allegory of pharma companies testing in africa i caught right away. And it fits perfectly with the overall narrative. The game depicts marginalized people in poor neighborhoods, well that's the point, they are the ones getting victimized by the corporations, they're explicit with these points if you actually play the game. Nobody's giving the writers enough credit.
The blonde lady was originally supposed to be a semi-major character, involving Ricardo Irving, before she was cut.
When it comes to gaming "journalism" anything that isn't Gematsu is a fucking joke nowadays.
"Hollow knight silk song NEEDS to have this feature!"
and niche gamer
That site is just as bad run by Sony fanboys. I got banned for practically nothing on it :-)
yep, got banned last year! 🙂@@SamM_Scot
Nah man, gematsu is trash also. Niche gamer is teh way but you got to pay. Its all good!
IGN when the game that takes place in Africa has african people:
I'm pretty sure RE5 now can be re-released under the title of Haiti Tourist Survival Simulator.
I'd buy that game lol
Needs a barbecue difficulty
Time do truly be cyclical.
It does rhyme
I just replayed it in coop on whatever is the hardest difficulty and the first part of the game is actually solid. There are some big open areas that you have to navigate and are open to exploration, although inventory itself is bad, I think the economy and management of it has potential if done right which they didn't. It was fun, until we reached the second part where the game for some reason become an extremely linear corridor shooter which REALLY works against every mechanic in the game lmao.
People need to stop living life vicarioualy through media.
I've got no clue how people still click and visit sites like IGN. There might be small hidden nuggets of useful info about game codes or release dates possibly but aside from that if you're giving them web traffic through their rage bait articles then you're feeding into them making more. It's like anything nowadays, the best way to show a company you don't like what they're doing is to stop funding them and giving them the necessary attention for them to continue doing what you don't like. It's just a numbers game and even if the people who know how to change it don't engage there will always be idiots who just want to engage with it and have pointless arguments online, feeding into the crap fest. The idiots get their fill of arguments to feel superior and the company get their traffic and money
This is why I've been eagerly awaiting RE5s turn at a remake. Thanks IGN.
Theres no way they keep many of the scenes from the original. The most obvious one where after Chris mows down a horde of Africans, Shalimar quips something like " those zombies got a little too close there Chris" and Chris is all like "Zombies!? What zombies? 😎"
I love RE5 and I LOVE Sheva so much! I genuinely don't think I've played as Chris outside of beating the campaign as him on the first run. RE5 was never racist. Yeah, it's pretty ass in the survival horror aspect, but everything else is REALLY FUCKING GOOD!
EDIT: also to be fair about the tribal stuff, RE4's castle cultists did go back to their medieval roots, so it's not like it's just the RE5 marsh tribe being that way. You could say it's one of the ways the Las Plagas virus affects its victims.
Who remembers if you speedrun the game you get a golden rpg to start with
AND THE GAME IS RACIST MAN
You got an infinte rpg, I don't ever recall it being gold?
People thinking RE5 is racist is just so comical to me😂😂
I remember playing this as a kid. I dont see how it’s racist. Sure you’re shooting a bunch of Africans…but like the setting takes place in Africa. Like if it took place in Asia, you’d shoot Asians, it takes place Europe, you’d be mowing down a bunch of Europeans. That’s like saying cods racist because where over in Afghanistan or whatever shooting Muslims or whoever. None of it makes sense to me
That’s the same reason some games and movies make all the bad guys wear helmets or something. Just so people can’t complain about race or whatever
Ign casually ignoring that you shoot nobody but Spaniards for the entirety of re4
@@bottomleftoAnd in re6 for the vast majority of every single playable campaign your shooting Chinese
@@bottomlefto No one is ignoring that. RE4 is arguably more racist towards the Spanish.
@@GermanKinsmenand yet the worst backlash it received is the spaniards somehow speaking mexican spanish. get real. if noone's ignoring it, where was all the hit pieces and manufactured outrage regarding re4?
If they rerelease the game, I’d like to see the mechanic that they advertised in the early build.
The sun blindness & fatigue/sanity.
They abandoned it in the later builds;
But it was an interesting idea.
There was another mechanic that wasn't used in the final build but is present in one of the trailers without Sheva (before the inclusion of her as a partner) in which Chris could actually dodge or parry enemies before. It would be cool if they include it.
@@alucardomalvadosyasociados5399RE5 Chris doesn't dodge things, he blocks them by flexing his huge melon shaped biceps.
Wait until they will try to cancel re2 remake for having marvin turning into a zombie and the game giving you an option of putting him out of his misery or just having black zombie models in general
Screw IGN. I'm so incredibly hyped for this remake, but also sad. Because I know that no one can possibly top Wesker's incredibly iconic delivery from the original game. And I'll always miss the days when Sonic the Hedgehog voiced Chris Redfield 😔
I've been saying this for years. It's amazing how they still have such a big presence in the gaming journalism scene considering how bad they are.
Certain hungarian old rich man is funding them
@@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia the writings on the wall
I vaguely remember the original controversy surrounding this as it was on the news, back when MW2 got on the news as well for the Airport No Russian mission.
Man I remember these times.
These two games released on same year and both get criticzm about that from brain dead viewers.
IGN stands for : I am Greatly Nuts