I hear what your saying dude and I'm not a sundown nut hugger my question is the sundown x8 v3 should still be potentially louder am I correct? I understand the Toro has more cone area but hypothetically let's say you have a 12-in woofer that's a 500 w RMS subwoofer and you have a 10 in woofer that is 1000watts rms even though the 12-in moves more air shouldn't the 10 in still capability wise be louder?
You think that because they have trained you to believe that power equates loudness. Financially beneficial to the manufacturers. Power is a component but not the end all
@@M.B.Enclosures right and I agree to an extent but I'll give you an example so I built an encloser for a pair of lower wattage sundown SA v1 rev 2 12s and he put them on a orion hcca3000.1dsplx and dialed it in and it was loud then he changed it up and put a pair of U series 10s on the same amp and same impedance same tuning and proper enclosure just like the other set of subs and he gained 1.7db now I know there's a lot of variables but to a certain extent motor Force plays a roleand getting efficiency out of the system is the goal but I was just wondering at what extent does it matter like there has to be some kind of a basic principle to go off of right?
Basically your max output is based off of cone area and mechanical xmax limit combined. Together these two make up the maximum amount of air volume a sub can move. Often a sub with a lower xmax also will have less resistance a higher spl by 1 watt so it will take less power to reach its mechanical limit. It’s really all a balancing act.
Brother I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you about the whole reaching xmax at 750 and not getting louder with 2k because I had 4 sundown Sa15's in my Lincoln mkx on two Skar sk3500.1's strapped for a 2ohm final impedance and I clamped 3k from one of those amps at 2.3ohm 13.8v playing a 32hz tone so I know at 1ohm they're doing atleast 4k each and I had the electrical to support it too with a CES 300AMP alt, xs d3400 under hood and d3100 in back with 2 runs of stinger hpm series tinned ofc now if I clamped only 750 per sub it sure as was not going to do the 153.7db I did when sending full power to them! So if they can handle more power cleanly then they WILL get louder with the extra power....
@@M.B.Enclosuresbut don’t ask many questions because he won’t do business with you you must be a master I got to talk to him about my x8 today and I’m still in need of a box builder 😊
Damn that's a nice box..comparing it to mine, I dont think I have enough air space. My port is smaller. If it dont work out, how much for a box like that? It needs to fit in a 2019 challenger
Man I had a JL 8 about 15 years ago. It hit pretty good by itself! Keep the video coming!
A bass head who stays in shape! Props from a basshead/gym head in Ohio
im in Ohio
Love these 8 videos
Jermaine Crutchfield just uploaded the AudioLegion 8 bro
On my Sundown SA 8's I'm running .5 cuft per sub in a ported inclosure. In a 4th order it requires a .25cuft sealed side.
This is over simplifying it but output is determined buy Cone area, Motor force and Cone travel. NOT just cone area.
Exactly, also the basket size has nothing to do with the cone area!
Super clean work bro!! I've got a quad 10 from jp,very nice thanks for a you do
Sundown x8v3 are beast.
Hey boss man, did you ever do a video on this enclosure itself?
Damn that Quadzilla looks good
I hear what your saying dude and I'm not a sundown nut hugger my question is the sundown x8 v3 should still be potentially louder am I correct? I understand the Toro has more cone area but hypothetically let's say you have a 12-in woofer that's a 500 w RMS subwoofer and you have a 10 in woofer that is 1000watts rms even though the 12-in moves more air shouldn't the 10 in still capability wise be louder?
You think that because they have trained you to believe that power equates loudness. Financially beneficial to the manufacturers. Power is a component but not the end all
@@M.B.Enclosures right and I agree to an extent but I'll give you an example so I built an encloser for a pair of lower wattage sundown SA v1 rev 2 12s and he put them on a orion hcca3000.1dsplx and dialed it in and it was loud then he changed it up and put a pair of U series 10s on the same amp and same impedance same tuning and proper enclosure just like the other set of subs and he gained 1.7db now I know there's a lot of variables but to a certain extent motor Force plays a roleand getting efficiency out of the system is the goal but I was just wondering at what extent does it matter like there has to be some kind of a basic principle to go off of right?
Basically your max output is based off of cone area and mechanical xmax limit combined. Together these two make up the maximum amount of air volume a sub can move. Often a sub with a lower xmax also will have less resistance a higher spl by 1 watt so it will take less power to reach its mechanical limit. It’s really all a balancing act.
I'm into techno or hard hitting punchy bass, between CT and Toro tech, which would suffice?
Just got my box Shit Definitely Worth every penny 💯💪🏾 good looking out OG
What kind, how many cube, and for how many Subs?
What kind of box do you have?
The cutout on a DD audio 2508 is a full 8 inches.
Exactly...a true 50 sq in cone area! I wager it louder than my QCLASS L7 8”
Brother I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you about the whole reaching xmax at 750 and not getting louder with 2k because I had 4 sundown Sa15's in my Lincoln mkx on two Skar sk3500.1's strapped for a 2ohm final impedance and I clamped 3k from one of those amps at 2.3ohm 13.8v playing a 32hz tone so I know at 1ohm they're doing atleast 4k each and I had the electrical to support it too with a CES 300AMP alt, xs d3400 under hood and d3100 in back with 2 runs of stinger hpm series tinned ofc now if I clamped only 750 per sub it sure as was not going to do the 153.7db I did when sending full power to them! So if they can handle more power cleanly then they WILL get louder with the extra power....
I have ct sounds strato 8 with same basket as the toro but 600 watts rms mega foam, small cone area. You should compare to the 2
Box straight 🔥🔥🔥 dis that next level shit 💯💪🏾
The cone on the sundown isn't as wide. But is it deeper? So do u think that'll even it out?
Solid 💯
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Nice box bro👈😎👉. ✌out Cali
Looking good man I'm ready to see it finished and bumbin
Dope video!!! Good lookin' out!!!!
How do I get in touch with you about getting 🤔 a box made?
priticalson text 404 694 4818
Do you build boxes for trucks.under seat f350 quad cab .4x8inch subs.?
Toby Hileman yeah... text me 404 694 4818
@@M.B.Enclosuresbut don’t ask many questions because he won’t do business with you you must be a master I got to talk to him about my x8 today and I’m still in need of a box builder 😊
sweet
Is that box for a car or truck?
lewis gibson car
Damn that's a nice box..comparing it to mine, I dont think I have enough air space. My port is smaller. If it dont work out, how much for a box like that? It needs to fit in a 2019 challenger
lewis gibson hit me up tomorrow 404 694 4818 ... let’s talk
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@@yungboss1970 did you get that box?
How much for a 2 12 box
how big and long are the ports?
al3xrom3ro14 4” aero..depends on tuning necessary and customer requests
Flair the port for less chuffing and more sound dispersion
I just dropped a quadzilla in the tolite while watching this!!!!!!!!!!🙁😟😬😖😲😩😌🤤😏🥴Ahhhh!!!!!!! 😁😆🤣😂
Does any have this box? How does it play?
Very nice
Lookey here boy looked here. Where you been? How that system doing?
@@JJonescaraudio1 sup bro..I'm still around. Probably be next year b4 I bring her out
Gotta get me a MB box one day
What’s the specs on that box bro?
Powering a sub is more than about just reaching xmax
Why so much box volume??doesn't it lead to less power??smh!!! Yea you get more bass at lower frequency,no power handling though...
The goal is output…power handling no output is useless
@@M.B.Enclosures makes sense💯💯💯
A bigger basket doesn't mean it has a bigger cone
At this point, I’m starting to think this is personal with sundown😂
Huh…I like Sundown Audio Sir
@@M.B.Enclosures i know. I’m just jivin
V3 weighs 31
Question . Sundown x8 v3 what box would you recommend
Bass reflex or 4th. Or 6th order band pass
2 x8