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I quite enjoyed Furiosa.....when it was on cable lol. I did not contribute to the box office, nor am I adding it to my Mad Max collection. Its not a Mad Max movie. Hes not even referenced in it past the title. He didnt even walk by as a Cameo....in a movie with his own name on it. Its not just Furiosa. Its Mad Max: Furiosa Is it really that big a mystery why it failed? When you go out for a burger, order a burger and the drive thru gives you chopped liver, You get to complain. They are in the wrong, not you. You were very clear about what you ordered. You have a receipt and a handful of chopped liver, not a burger. It aint rocket science folks. Its really really easy.
Karl Urban is one of my all time favorite actors. Guys like him and Reeves make narcissists like Cynthia whatever look like spoiled, entitled, extremely unlikable brats.
Agreed. Like with Mandolorian, why couldn't they just suit up a stunt actor and do voice over? Constantly seeing Pascal's face really killed the immersion of the show and it's all because his vanity wouldn't allow him to commit to the bit
"Cynthia Erivo just ruined Wicked for me." said most of the Wicked fans recently. Her twitter rant, against a fan's genuine artistic tribute, went over like a wet fart in a church. The reason? Because she thinks everything is just about her. The rant has put a pall over the movie and many people will lose money and goodwill because of her rampant narcissism.
I have wonderful memories of sharing the books with my mother, seeing the musical with my best friend, and listening to the CD during my commute. Loved the Wizard of Oz since I first read L. Frank Baum's originals and saw Judy Garland's MGM version on tv as a child, and have seen many of the associated films/series, like Tin Man, The Wiz, Return to Oz, Oz the Great and Powerful, etc. I'm not going to see this movie, or next year's sequel, which should have been the second book "Son of a Witch" by McGuire, and not part two of Wicked because of useless filler. The vitriol from Cynthia Erivo has ruined any excitement I had for it. ☹
Agreed. I couldn't care less about Wicked but damn, it's a real shame to see a project that has the potential to make a lot of people happy (and make others a lot of money) have that potential reduced because of one person's comment.
And it’s stupid because it’s a character she played, not her. Love her voice but this ruined her and her movie! Hope she’s going to be happy and not blame “racism” for the low turnout in the cinema.
Democratic politicans, actors, social media influencers, sx workers, games journalists, mainstream media propagandists... What do they have in common? Most of them are woke, morally bankrupt, and think they're superior to you.
This has got to be one of the most stupid things anyone has tried to connect to Errivo. Errivo grew up in Stockwell, not exactly known as a den of privilege. She grew up in a broken home as her parents divorced when she was young. And using a well known oreo as your source for any profound statements shows you have no idea what actual privilege is. And I agree that she went batshit crazy and reacted for no goddamn reason.
@@omarsyed1980 I don't think wealth was what was meant by privilege. Having your parents divorce does not doom you to a life of woe and hopelessness. Is Stockwell somehow supposed to be a ghetto? What do you mean by Oreo!? Is Sowell half black? If so does that invalidate what he says!?
I've heard that Cynthia Erivo was responsible for the 'official' poster looking like it did and that's the reason she reacted so negatively to the fan edit.
It's ironic that Ariana Grande is the least "toxic" one involved here. Hollywood _really_ needs to put a muzzle on their actors because she just cost dozens, if not hundreds of people, several months worth of work and Disney millions of dollars in box office revenue. One selfish person being a narcissist and all of that hard work is diminished and for nothing.
Studios used to have that power, because actors contracted directly with the studios. Believe it or not, it’s better this way. The unions stop exploitation and every so often we get some light outrage.
the idol industry in japan keeps a leash on their talent , they still have that "mystique" about them that intrigues the fans of the thing in question, which hollywood more or less lost in the mid-2000s-early 2010s
@@kman9884 it's a double edged sword. While there are the occasional dis track and random attacks on the IP's own fanbase, we do get actors who fight for the story like Henry Cavill is efforts to stop the Witcher from being totally different from the source material loaded with Marvel humour and Jenna Ortega stopping her character of Wednesday becoming a valley girl. It's a tool to fight for a better product, or enough rope to get themselves in trouble.
You see the same thing with successful business people. They maybe brilliant at what they do but when talking on matters outside their profession they are often as clueless as anybody else who doesn't have any special knowledge or experience in the field.
Honestly, I was willing to give it a chance just out of curiosity but the moment Erivo started on her insanity I was out. Having anyone on payroll that pulls this kind of thing immediately tells me all I need to know about their hiring practices and approach to a project. That's especially true for the games industry at this point.
I would just tell people, especially Wicked fans, “Wait for this movie on streaming. That way to can harm this narcissist’s ego even more by putting her in Box Office flop and you’ll know by then if the movie stays true for the original.” Even then, I’m curious how the Wicked fans are gonna react to this and whether it will impact sales.
Erivo's long been known for these kinds of things. Her first big faux pas was probably in 2017, when she freaked out over someone's innocent fancast for a potential live action remake of Disney's Hercules. She'd been fancast as one of the Muses, and she was offended at the thought someone would think she'd be in a small ensemble role. Mind, fancasts for the Muses have included big stars like Beyonce and Jennifer Hudson, so it was hardly an insult. I saw a post by someone who knew her, saying that her ego had gotten out of control after she won a Tony in 2016.
@@stormyknight1370 When you point it out, yeah; being cast one of the Muses would be a huge deal, they're the biggest and most significant supporting characters in the entire cast.
Campea of all people reacting that way is a bad sign for this movie. I mean, I'm not a Wicked fan, so I wasn't going to go anyway, but if the actress has turned off some of their actual fans, that can't be helpful. The old "any press is good press" has ceased to be true. How MUCH this will ultimately hurt the film is the only question, and time alone will answer that one.
I was a big fan of the books long before any musicals or movies. I saw the play twice, and have forgotten it. The book(s) are far better. I saw this lady open her mouth and will be skipping this. 😂 Excellent comment!
I *am* a fan (actually it's my second favourite musical) and was hoping this would be a great translation from the theatre; I really worried now that this stupid woman has ruined any chance of a big turnout and positive box office with her comments
@@blujustin4175 Mind if I ask what your favorite is? I saw so many Broadway plays but the only memorable ones were Matilda, Book of Mormon, Cats, and Lion King. I really wish Wicked was more memorable for me :/ *saw Matilda in London, probably not considered Broadway.
@@fuzzy8593 My, and my wife's FWIW, favourite is *Les Miserables* which she thought she would hate before seeing it but actually loved it, then introduced a (previously) sceptical me to it... FWIW I'm in the UK, so _The West End_ in London 'counts' for me (I've seen *Wicked* there twice and once elsewhere I think); in fact my neighbour's daughter is in the recent _West End_ opening of the new musical version of *The Devil Wears Prada* and it's getting great reviews, so I'll be heading to London to see that soon.
@ Man that is awesome. Please don’t take offense from my darn comment. I have issues with memory and I think the whole Wicked thing was my fault. I probably hyped it up too much in my mind and therefore was unable to create a memory. I KNOW that I enjoyed it, I just cannot remember it for the life of me. I am pretty ignorant on what counts as Broadway shows, I went to many shows in Houston, Texas, New York, and a few in London, and I could not tell you who produced or put on any of them. I apologize if my comment seemed weird. Man, that sounds like a blast, I hope you all have a great time! Thank you for the reply :)
@@pukeachu 😂😂😂 there are no snowflakes here. People are laughing at her, at Hollywood etc. They are no longer getting or money, that's not being a snowflake, that's being smart with your money. Not everyone deserves it
It is possible to post comments under multiple accounts so I wouldn't know if you are alone in that opinion. It does seem to be repeated in other comments like it is some entity with an agenda rather than any organic response.
Studios should hold back the actors' salaries until the release of the movie. This should motivate them to shut up and stay in line - otherwise the salary goes down.
Why? For them to start talking after the film's release and getting (over)paid? No. Personally, I want to know when I should keep my wallet close. Let them speak openly what they think about me.
Chile please, when Disney starts speaking when actors involved in their projects get attacked with hate for no reason then they can do this otherwise you can be quiet with this
You can tell Ariana Grande has had PR training on how to respond to these things. Her response to Cynthia's unforced error was well crafted. It was a reminder of how we used to view these stars before they all hopped on Twitter and started vomiting their empty headed egos at us.
@@cormoran2303 I agree I agree and please don’t hate me for what I’m about to say but my respect for Ariana just went way way up in my respect for Cynthia. Just went way way down.
She has a PR team because she always geta herself in scandals, like allegedly being a homewrecker (I'm talking about Ariana), and somehow people still follow her.
@@parkjiminismylight6441 well guess what none of that’s been proven true so take it somewhere else. Meanwhile, you got Cynthia, who is throwing tantrum after tantrum after tantrum after tantrum and it is being proven through because we can see it with our own damn eyes.
Yeah, but she’s also trying to give the wicked wood to the west micro braids, which is not a part of the wicked way to the west look shouldn’t have to be involved in this. This is Cynthia‘s mess.
@@mariokarter13 and she definitely understood the assignment of Glenda. Did you see the clip that’s going around of her singing the opening number oh my God if that doesn’t screen perfect casting I don’t know what does.
Movies are being ignored in theaters because fans feel cheated, attacked, or dismissed. Deadpool & Wolverine and Dune Part II were massively successful because (A) they gave fans what they wanted and (B) none of the cast talked down to the people most likely to see the film. I'll just wait to watch Wicked once it streams for free.
The one time I agree with John Campea. Cynthia Erivo is a diva and a narcissist. I have seen posts on X from people that have worked with her and confirm bad vibes from her. The movie will probably be a hit but I am not interested in it. I look forward to all your reviews.
Anyone notice how many with this kind of psychological profile/attitude wear weaves (or have been left bald from doing so)? Starting to think more than scalp follicles are affected by the lack of circulation… Does anyone have a timeline for how long she's worn weaves? And did her wearing them affect her temperament?
Apparently, Cynthia Erivo is the type of person who believes that she is owed adulation. Putting together a poster that covers any part of her face; no matter how well intended, just won’t do. Cynthia Erivo should be worshiped, because this movie and the role she is playing in it, is actually all about her, not the character she is playing or the story the movie is going to tell. It’s all about me, me, me, me. Cynthia might add, “You should know that, you poor, mortal, peon moviegoer that you are.”
She is playing a character in a fantasy, it is not supposed to reflect the 'real her' by its nature. And the clue is in the green skin colour, not in any way her natural colour.
I doubt Im going out on a limb by saying I suspect theyll be pushing the allegory parallels alot about skin colour and stuff in this movie, so dont be shocked if some of the dialogue goes on about green lives matter too...
Cynthia Erivo's behavior highlights a much larger problem with a specific demographic that society is not ready to address, and probably never will be.
@@alansmithee5595 i’m just gonna say it if you look like Cynthia, you can barely get away with anything. Don’t be surprised if that comment gets deleted because God forbid people tell the truth.
@@Leamichellefan2244 I think the tides are turning but something big, like massive backlash against a "cancelling" attempt by someone like Erivo, will have to happen to really get things moving. It's close, it's coming, and I'm very much looking forward to it.
@@Nabo42 I hope so. I hope so because her behind needs to be canceled especially after this BS and again I bring this up constantly and I do apologize but I feel like it’s a very good point Ariana Grande‘s face is way more edited in that poster and she is not the one making a stink.
My niece and her friends were all excited for this movie. 'Finally! A reason to go to the theaters!' Nope. They don't even want anything to do with it anymore.
Cynthia is absolutely right, eyes are windows to the soul and portals for the viewer, direct connections to one's thoughts and intentions. That's why in her case, covering them up was such a vast improvement.
@@Tonybigguns1If fans are free to edit the poster can they make pirate copies of the movie if they edit them? Could they argue look it is in the actors contract not to say anything to upset fans so they had a reasonable belief it was normal to make copies? People were making all fan art and the actors were saying how great it was and it was just the next step to make a edited version of the movie itself.
This has been the trend for a while. When they turned the last Harry Potter book into two movies and they did well, everyone realized why make only one when you can have two. It does not always go so well as Andre mentioned the bloatware that was The Hobbit trilogy and Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning has dropped the Part One from the title as they now believe that actually harmed the movie. Wicked was great as it was, and they should have left well enough alone. TBH, the movie is probably 10 years too late to really have caught the big wave of the musical and given the original stars the chance to resume their characters. The studio should tell Erivo to shut up or else. There is language in her contract should she say or do something to harm the movie. Time to CGI her out and replace with an animated Elphelba! (kidding)
@@joes9954 Very true. I would only add that the filler they pad this out with (and the run-time for a stage performance of Wicked is exactly the length of this movie, so it's HALF filler to get it to two parts) is very self-evident, and nobody likes it.
I think my Mom might be (because she's a fan of Wizard of Oz), but I don't know if she's aware yet that it's a 'Part I' (She might not be aware of this outburst yet, either). So she may yet have to go through that loss of interest that most everyone else has gone through already.
You hear that chick describe the ariana controversy. She condemned the husband for leaving his wife but let ariana off the hook for leaving her husband because “she was gonna leave him anyway”? Does that make sense? Clear feminist bias.
Another thing is, while the media keep bringing up Grande's situation, they don't mention Erivo did the same thing. She's twice left partners for someone else- first her boyfriend for another dude, then that dude for a married woman, who she's currently with. The media of course won't blame her for helping break up that woman's marriage, they just celebrate Erivo's "queerness".
@@marcomarterer7232 with your permission I’m also going to add. He also knows how the fans of snow White and the little mermaid feel because we had to deal with the exact same BS and we were just told by him to accept it. I am a fan of wig and I’m glad he standing up for that. I still can’t take him seriously because I am also a fan of Ariel and snow White and he defended those wages mercilessly.
At this point, if I was a Hollywood movie producer, I would include a clause in all contracts that any actor or actress that I hire signs that would call for immediate termination and blacklisting from the studio if they even say, write, or tweet even one negative word toward the fans, the audience, or even the public in general. It's long overdue to teach these modern day versions of the court jester, that their words and actions have consequences.
I wonder, hypothetically, if the film poster was perhaps originally intended to be something more like the original poster for the original musical stage play... but perhaps Cynthia Erivo or someone representing her took notice of this original plan and made them change it to show her face more or something along those lines... only for someone to make that fan-edited poster that makes the film poster look more like the original poster for the original musical stage play to come out anyway? I'm not saying that's the case, but It would be kind of ironicly funny if that was the case...
I think that is definitely what happened. She’s already had this argument with someone behind the scenes so I think this triggered something for Cynthia.
@@sparrowwilson4514 OK I didn’t know about the behind-the-scenes argument. Any chance you could give me a little more juicy juice cause I’m interested please.
It certainly makes sense. It would also explain why they choose to use image of her where she looks… let’s say “unflattering” just to wind her up, cause that way they accepted her request… Also, it’s rather amusing like she’s going on how she’s“communicating with her eyes” meanwhile she look there as if she just recovered from a lobotomy 🤦🏼♂️
Being that the fan was just copying the poster from the play, shows me that Cynthia has zero knowledge of the actual play and story and this was just another job for her.
I am willing to bet that before this fiasco, Cynthia Erivo had either never seen the original play's poster or had forgotten it. That would make her overreaction to what she perceived as a cruel critique when seeing the fan-poster make sense. She likely never even thought of it as being an "homage to the previous poster". That's narcissistic actors for you.
@@Luciphell if you will be so kind as to allow me to do so I would like to join you in betting on that especially because now she’s claiming that when she was 25 she went to see the show which I highly doubt because if she had, she would know good and well with the poster supposed to look like and she wouldn’t be boo-hoo about it. She would be grateful actually like Ariana is being now I know Ariana is not everybody’s favorite person and that’s fine but you have to give her credit for being graceful about this whole thing.
@@Leamichellefan2244 You would think all of Hollywood would have gotten the message by now. "Shut the fuck up and do your job. Entertain us and keep quiet about your politics and beliefs." It's like, how many plumbers come to your home and try to gas-light you into believing you are a bad person because you don't like the same people they do?
It might. The fandoms that are primarily female in demographics tend to be the most unforgiving if you piss them off. I really don’t know considering this might be a Barbie situation where there’s this big fandom this corner of the Internet doesn’t interact with.
@@AndrésCoria-u1n what I’m about to say is absolutely no disrespect intended towards you, but it might affect the box office a good bit. I’m not saying this thing is gonna be a total failure, but the more and more people to get wind of this aren’t gonna want to see the movie thereby taking down the profits, but I do definitely agree with you that her career after this is God willing done.
What should really be the issue is that the studio chose to race swap a white character. We are getting tired of that crap. The studios call us racist yet refuse to create new roles for black characters. Race swapping an established character is offensive to both races.
And it was a terrible choice, that green paint is unflattering to even the finest features but it made her nose look horrific. I also don’t get why they didn’t do the red lipstick, there’s no color contrast and she looks awful
They could at least get a better looking actress. There are plenty of actresses that are easy on the eyes and can also sing. This woman looks like she fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
AND she’s almost 40 but her character is supposed to be 20 and starting college. Don’t tell me she got the part on merit and who best fit the character
Used to be a time when "stars" were not able to go off script like this, everything went through their agent, everything was carefully cultivated and controlled to give the public rhe best image of their star and the movie they were in. When did agents lose control?
@@alansmithee5595 And therein lies one of the many problems with box-ticking behavior - even IF she didn't get the role because of that, it's such common practice now that it becomes the default assumption.
@@alansmithee5595tbf to Erivo, she’s an accomplished singer un her own right. But she also happens to check all the boxes. A convenient coincidence? Probably not. Lol
Yep I was planning on seeing this….but now I’ll boycott. We need to teach studios a lesson to get rid of woke nonsense and muzzle their actors! Money talks ….not the woke talk they are peddling
No need for muzzles... The actors should know how to treat the fan base that pays them... if they don't studio's shouldn't employ them in the first place
If one wants to be triggered, how about casting a black women as the "green" and "evil" character. Isn't this a too common trope??? Just stirring the pot ;)
What a shame this had to be done to this movie! My granddaughter and I have seen this play 3 times! My granddaughter came up to me when this happened and said to me “well I wish you didn’t already have tickets because this makes me so sad.” Hoping things cool down so we can enjoy the movie. I didn’t know there was a part 2. 😢
I hate when actors attack the public for different trivia matter. Like the lack of viewers in a movie or they say something offence to the fans and play the victim card.
When you make shows and movies no body wanted... And jam them full of DIL, identity politics, woke and gay ,poofer girl bosses.... When wonder why everything bombs hard .... Then play the victim card and blame the audience.... Disney, Marvel ,Netflix and Amazon do this all the time .... And audiences just dont care any more
It takes 2 to tango, it is still the guys fault, for cheating on a wife and newborn. Ariana can be naked in front of you, if you are a real man with a wife and newborn you get out and go home.
How is there not a "shut the f**k up clause" whenever people sign on to these projects, and how the hell do actors have direct control of their own social media? It's not the 80's anymore when actors were mythical, untouchable figures, but now it's as simple as a Twitter post for you to hear every little thing they think and feel. Often tanking their own projects in process, cause now they're not mythical, they're just your average Joe on the internet, and we are free to crap on their day all we want as a collective.
Celebrities reeeeally need to remember their roles and responsibilities. They have a JOB to do. If I said everything on my mind at work, I'd get fired. It would impact my relationships at work. They've totally forgotten that we don't care what they think. It doesn't matter. Just do your job. That's what you chose to do and you know everything you say is going to make news. Sing. Act. Remain professional. We'll all love you. No politics. No wokeness. No special causes. So sjw and such. Just shut up and sing.
@@sird2333she actually looks like Don cheadle, with titties. I actually like Don cheto, I think Don Cheetos like one of the greatest actors of our time, and he's the guy. but she looks just like him in this movie. I actually read the book like more than once I loved the book by Gregory McGuire elphaba, was not unattractive she was just green which happens to be my favorite color Cynthia, is very talented but she's not attractive at all she is not a nice person and she is not a nice looking woman. That's where this whole diversity crap comes in they just stuck some chick in the movie that is talented she really can sing but them making alphaba ugly or actually just unattractive is not cool because she was not unattractive in the book she was just green she was born green. and personally I've never seen the play I wish they would have made a movie true to the book that was not a musical but I would have watched the movie if it had someone in there that was number one attractive like the character and two it wasn't an egotistical nut
Why is everyone assuming this was going to be a hit? When was the last time a Broadway -> Hollywood adaption wasn’t a trash fire? Or at best a mid tier bland disappointment. We do remember Cats, right? Les Mis was Le Meh. And going back to Buzby Berkeley. Movies made organically as musicals work. But remarkably few based on a stage production do for some reason.
@@MidnightsEdge But does it? Everyone assumes “guaranteed hit” because the Broadway musical is beloved. But there is less synergy between those two audiences than people seem to assume. Case in point the troublesome actress. She is apparently some huge Broadway Star. Normies don’t know who she is. Nobody is buying movie tickets based on her. Maybe if they had gotten Idina Menzel? Barbie worked because Barbie is a shared multigenerational experience among women. In the way Star Wars used to be for men. Wicked? Maybe they’ve seen a TH-cam video of that one song… and it was Idina (Elsa!) Menzel singing it.
These movies can’t keep hiring Political Blacks who are only interested in elevating their own individual standing as representatives of Political Blackness, and will HAVE to start hiring actors that just want to make a movie that people want to see so the actors make money
@@OldManDoom exactly thank you Cynthia even said oh I’m bringing my black experience to the role the second she said that I was like nope I’m out and then I found out about this. Oh good Lord.
Being a Star Wars and comic book fan, I know this disappointment and hurt well. I don't like Wicked, but I don't like seeing fans of anything getting crapped on for no reason other than displaying their love and passion.
Why is the Wicked movie TWO PARTS? Part 1: Elphaba snaps half of all life in the universe out of existence Part 2: Everyone is brought back to life in an epic climactic battle for the Infinity Gauntlet
I will say I am a huge Wicked fan, I think I've seen the stage show about a dozen times. I had been looking forward to seeing this adaptation, but not anymore. I'm going to give the film a miss & have got tickets to the stage show instead. They appreciate, not hate, the fans there!
honestly its a breath of fresh air just to have an actress/actor reply as gracefully and neutral as Ariana did, instead of piling on and doubling down with the activists taking over, in this day-and-age. Its sad that something that was once so normal as being thankful and appreciative of an audience or fanbase, is so rare.
@@JessaHawkeIt's not that, for me. It's that they didn't change her to a vodoun practitioner instead, but did a race blind casting and kept the european witch esthetic. It's like making her bland. They didn't take the step fully, it's a meh
I love how the guy breaking up with his wife and going out with Grande is the bad person in that interview ... it takes two to tango you know. Why didn't Grande tell him no way and to go back to his wife and new born child?
Grande has a lifetime of experience dealing with the press and it showed. Maybe Erivo should have sought her advice. I assume her ego is just too big for that.
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Her behavior just proves how ignorant celebrities are. Cynthia Erivo and Mark Hamill should be on a panel together....
Ok. Im game.
I quite enjoyed Furiosa.....when it was on cable lol. I did not contribute to the box office, nor am I adding it to my Mad Max collection. Its not a Mad Max movie. Hes not even referenced in it past the title. He didnt even walk by as a Cameo....in a movie with his own name on it. Its not just Furiosa. Its Mad Max: Furiosa
Is it really that big a mystery why it failed?
When you go out for a burger, order a burger and the drive thru gives you chopped liver, You get to complain. They are in the wrong, not you. You were very clear about what you ordered. You have a receipt and a handful of chopped liver, not a burger.
It aint rocket science folks. Its really really easy.
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It's going to be a terrible movie.I can already tell.
I'll always respect the hell out of Karl Urban for keeping his face covered all through Dredd. A rare professional in an industry of Cynthia Erivos.
Karl Urban is one of my all time favorite actors. Guys like him and Reeves make narcissists like Cynthia whatever look like spoiled, entitled, extremely unlikable brats.
Karl Urban is so under rated.
Such a handsome face, too…no comparison to Cynthia
Agreed. Like with Mandolorian, why couldn't they just suit up a stunt actor and do voice over? Constantly seeing Pascal's face really killed the immersion of the show and it's all because his vanity wouldn't allow him to commit to the bit
It's about the artists putting the art before themselves. At least, that's what it should be.
"Cynthia Erivo just ruined Wicked for me." said most of the Wicked fans recently. Her twitter rant, against a fan's genuine artistic tribute, went over like a wet fart in a church. The reason? Because she thinks everything is just about her. The rant has put a pall over the movie and many people will lose money and goodwill because of her rampant narcissism.
I have wonderful memories of sharing the books with my mother, seeing the musical with my best friend, and listening to the CD during my commute. Loved the Wizard of Oz since I first read L. Frank Baum's originals and saw Judy Garland's MGM version on tv as a child, and have seen many of the associated films/series, like Tin Man, The Wiz, Return to Oz, Oz the Great and Powerful, etc. I'm not going to see this movie, or next year's sequel, which should have been the second book "Son of a Witch" by McGuire, and not part two of Wicked because of useless filler. The vitriol from Cynthia Erivo has ruined any excitement I had for it. ☹
Let's hope this puts an end to her, uh, career.
Dont watch it then tf
Agreed. I couldn't care less about Wicked but damn, it's a real shame to see a project that has the potential to make a lot of people happy (and make others a lot of money) have that potential reduced because of one person's comment.
@@ThatoMogato-o1pYou're so triggered tf
All Erivo had to do was reply “Love it!” and it would generate free publicity and enhance her standing as a gracious person. Stupid.
And it’s stupid because it’s a character she played, not her.
Love her voice but this ruined her and her movie!
Hope she’s going to be happy and not blame “racism” for the low turnout in the cinema.
@@ect2541she will.
when you're a narcissist
everything is an attack, even compliments
@@ShamanSage "You're so beautiful... HOW DARE YOU BE BORN SO PRIVILEGED WITH BEAUTY, YOU SKANK!!!" lol
But she’s not a gracious person so unable to do it.
Imagine people in the most morally bankrupt industry in the world preaching to me about morality. Crazy right?
Democratic politicans, actors, social media influencers, sx workers, games journalists, mainstream media propagandists... What do they have in common? Most of them are woke, morally bankrupt, and think they're superior to you.
Don’t see any bankers present in this video.
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And right after getting back from a P Diddy party.
haha exactly well said!!!!!
When you've spend your entire life privileged, equality will feel like discrimination.
Thomas Sowell.
Possibly my favorite "quote" from that absolute legend.
Hence why DEI not only focused on inequality, it actively ENFORCED IT!
This has got to be one of the most stupid things anyone has tried to connect to Errivo.
Errivo grew up in Stockwell, not exactly known as a den of privilege.
She grew up in a broken home as her parents divorced when she was young.
And using a well known oreo as your source for any profound statements shows you have no idea what actual privilege is.
And I agree that she went batshit crazy and reacted for no goddamn reason.
@@omarsyed1980 I don't think wealth was what was meant by privilege. Having your parents divorce does not doom you to a life of woe and hopelessness. Is Stockwell somehow supposed to be a ghetto? What do you mean by Oreo!? Is Sowell half black? If so does that invalidate what he says!?
What privilege did she have? Y’all say anything 😂
Fan poster is better
True.
Absolutely better! The original is really bad.
I've heard that Cynthia Erivo was responsible for the 'official' poster looking like it did and that's the reason she reacted so negatively to the fan edit.
It's ironic that Ariana Grande is the least "toxic" one involved here. Hollywood _really_ needs to put a muzzle on their actors because she just cost dozens, if not hundreds of people, several months worth of work and Disney millions of dollars in box office revenue. One selfish person being a narcissist and all of that hard work is diminished and for nothing.
Studios used to have that power, because actors contracted directly with the studios. Believe it or not, it’s better this way. The unions stop exploitation and every so often we get some light outrage.
the idol industry in japan keeps a leash on their talent , they still have that "mystique" about them that intrigues the fans of the thing in question, which hollywood more or less lost in the mid-2000s-early 2010s
No, no! Personally, I want to know when I should keep my wallet close. Let them speak openly what they think about me.
They’re humans….. not animals….
@@kman9884 it's a double edged sword. While there are the occasional dis track and random attacks on the IP's own fanbase, we do get actors who fight for the story like Henry Cavill is efforts to stop the Witcher from being totally different from the source material loaded with Marvel humour and Jenna Ortega stopping her character of Wednesday becoming a valley girl.
It's a tool to fight for a better product, or enough rope to get themselves in trouble.
You can never overestimate Hollywood's stupidity.
But BOY, can you underestimate it. Well done, Hollywood. Well freakin' done.
Diversity hires aren't hired for their intelligence, or even talent. That's just how it is.
A quote that is said to come from Einstein is "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
With a narcissist in the lead, we’re gonna pass on this movie!
Bye tf
PREACH..
When your co-Star says you massively overreacted in the kindest, most Hollywood way possible, you know you fucked up big time.
Like simu limu n his boba tea BS crap he spewed
i would not say that it was how Hollywood typically responds but i would say she was super kind and a credit to all actors.
@@googleifyouseekayu he should be sued
@@ttrev007 AG responded how a normal person should respond to Internet drama
@@googleifyouseekayu no, he has grounds, especially about the way they decided to word and deliver their proposal. It was very charged.
She just tanked her own movie and hurt her career.
She decide... to do so, is what it is.
Good
Social media has destroyed all the mystery and intrigue that Hollywood once had without anyone from Hollywood realizing it
If they could just keep their mourns shut when they don’t have a script then they’d do so much better
That's why the Hollywad trained monkeys ALWAYS HAD a Press Agent, who handled their responses to the media.
You see the same thing with successful business people. They maybe brilliant at what they do but when talking on matters outside their profession they are often as clueless as anybody else who doesn't have any special knowledge or experience in the field.
Nailed it
I’m actually glad they’re letting everyone see what’s in their dark void souls… wouldn’t have it any other way!
I would’ve gone with my girlfriend if she had asked. Now there is no chance of that. I refuse to financially support clear narcissism.
Aaah so youve seen the Southpark episode huh😉
@@diabollikealldaddydid south park cover this?!
@@Catherine.Dorian. they covered Broadway and how they musicals had hypnotic suggestions to make the women very horny
@@Catherine.Dorian. you are a female i presume, so according to the episode i'm supposed to keep my mouth shut about the 'wicked' episode,..😅 so..🤐
I was surprised to learn that something like Wicked even exists, let alone has such a huge following.
This woman must get hysterical every time she puts sunglasses on thinking she's being erased.
Honestly, I was willing to give it a chance just out of curiosity but the moment Erivo started on her insanity I was out. Having anyone on payroll that pulls this kind of thing immediately tells me all I need to know about their hiring practices and approach to a project. That's especially true for the games industry at this point.
I would just tell people, especially Wicked fans, “Wait for this movie on streaming. That way to can harm this narcissist’s ego even more by putting her in Box Office flop and you’ll know by then if the movie stays true for the original.”
Even then, I’m curious how the Wicked fans are gonna react to this and whether it will impact sales.
@@NathanCassidy721 no, read the book, peeps! Stop this DEI nonsense
@@lynnm6413 They don’t make ANY money on streaming and viewership is that big anyway.
She was clearly chosen because of colour inclusive casting. It backfired baaaaadly.
Erivo's long been known for these kinds of things. Her first big faux pas was probably in 2017, when she freaked out over someone's innocent fancast for a potential live action remake of Disney's Hercules. She'd been fancast as one of the Muses, and she was offended at the thought someone would think she'd be in a small ensemble role. Mind, fancasts for the Muses have included big stars like Beyonce and Jennifer Hudson, so it was hardly an insult. I saw a post by someone who knew her, saying that her ego had gotten out of control after she won a Tony in 2016.
Guess it was only a matter of time before everyone learned the truth about who she really is as a person.
@SpaceJawa with narcissists it's always a matter of time before they put everyone off
Whats even funnier is the Muses are not a small role. They sing almost *all* of the movie.
@@stormyknight1370 When you point it out, yeah; being cast one of the Muses would be a huge deal, they're the biggest and most significant supporting characters in the entire cast.
Not to mention the Great Comet fiasco
Campea of all people reacting that way is a bad sign for this movie. I mean, I'm not a Wicked fan, so I wasn't going to go anyway, but if the actress has turned off some of their actual fans, that can't be helpful. The old "any press is good press" has ceased to be true. How MUCH this will ultimately hurt the film is the only question, and time alone will answer that one.
I was a big fan of the books long before any musicals or movies. I saw the play twice, and have forgotten it. The book(s) are far better. I saw this lady open her mouth and will be skipping this. 😂 Excellent comment!
I *am* a fan (actually it's my second favourite musical) and was hoping this would be a great translation from the theatre; I really worried now that this stupid woman has ruined any chance of a big turnout and positive box office with her comments
@@blujustin4175 Mind if I ask what your favorite is? I saw so many Broadway plays but the only memorable ones were Matilda, Book of Mormon, Cats, and Lion King. I really wish Wicked was more memorable for me :/
*saw Matilda in London, probably not considered Broadway.
@@fuzzy8593 My, and my wife's FWIW, favourite is *Les Miserables* which she thought she would hate before seeing it but actually loved it, then introduced a (previously) sceptical me to it... FWIW I'm in the UK, so _The West End_ in London 'counts' for me (I've seen *Wicked* there twice and once elsewhere I think); in fact my neighbour's daughter is in the recent _West End_ opening of the new musical version of *The Devil Wears Prada* and it's getting great reviews, so I'll be heading to London to see that soon.
@ Man that is awesome. Please don’t take offense from my darn comment. I have issues with memory and I think the whole Wicked thing was my fault. I probably hyped it up too much in my mind and therefore was unable to create a memory. I KNOW that I enjoyed it, I just cannot remember it for the life of me. I am pretty ignorant on what counts as Broadway shows, I went to many shows in Houston, Texas, New York, and a few in London, and I could not tell you who produced or put on any of them. I apologize if my comment seemed weird. Man, that sounds like a blast, I hope you all have a great time! Thank you for the reply :)
I think she hurt this production with her outburst. It was uncalled for and now tainted this whole thing.
Clearly The Woke are no longer the only snow flakes in town
@@pukeachu 😂😂😂 there are no snowflakes here. People are laughing at her, at Hollywood etc.
They are no longer getting or money, that's not being a snowflake, that's being smart with your money. Not everyone deserves it
@@pukeachu You shouldn't talk about yourself like that.
It is possible to post comments under multiple accounts so I wouldn't know if you are alone in that opinion. It does seem to be repeated in other comments like it is some entity with an agenda rather than any organic response.
Agree, because now it’s the only news I hear about the production. It overshadows all the other press that I have personally seen
Studios should hold back the actors' salaries until the release of the movie. This should motivate them to shut up and stay in line - otherwise the salary goes down.
In other words, imagine if they got paid the same way as everyone else? Yeah, that would, you know...make sense.
Actors should be paid based on box office and not a flat fee upfront... guarantee that would get most of them to leave social media immediately
Why? For them to start talking after the film's release and getting (over)paid? No. Personally, I want to know when I should keep my wallet close. Let them speak openly what they think about me.
Bad idea
Chile please, when Disney starts speaking when actors involved in their projects get attacked with hate for no reason then they can do this otherwise you can be quiet with this
How many peoples paychecks are tied to the success of this movie. How many people who absolutely love the stage show won't go now. It's a real shame.
You underestimate hate-watchers and FOMO people. They happily fund those who hate their guts.
They already got paid and would've gotten paid whether or not this movie makes any money.
The people who made the movies paychecks?! Hollywood insiders? They might loose shekels?!
Oh no!
....Anyway.
The state of her face, they should have covered it all.
Oooooof! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Reminds me of a fox caught in the headlights! 😳
You can tell Ariana Grande has had PR training on how to respond to these things.
Her response to Cynthia's unforced error was well crafted.
It was a reminder of how we used to view these stars before they all hopped on Twitter and started vomiting their empty headed egos at us.
@@cormoran2303 I agree I agree and please don’t hate me for what I’m about to say but my respect for Ariana just went way way up in my respect for Cynthia. Just went way way down.
She has a PR team because she always geta herself in scandals, like allegedly being a homewrecker (I'm talking about Ariana), and somehow people still follow her.
@@parkjiminismylight6441 well guess what none of that’s been proven true so take it somewhere else. Meanwhile, you got Cynthia, who is throwing tantrum after tantrum after tantrum after tantrum and it is being proven through because we can see it with our own damn eyes.
@@parkjiminismylight6441 That is one of the reasons why I don't like Ariana and I think that she is very much overhyped.
It's a bit like Will Smith striking the host at the Oscars, everyone sitting there and their jaws hit the floor.
She agreed to take the nose ring out of that beak for filming? I'm surprised.
The septum ring is always a tell.
@@theevermind LOL. The hoop of horrors. The toroid of terror. The ring of revoltion and repugnance.
Yeah, but she’s also trying to give the wicked wood to the west micro braids, which is not a part of the wicked way to the west look shouldn’t have to be involved in this. This is Cynthia‘s mess.
Some of y’all just were looking for reason too say such things weren’t you smh
@@lovelydiva06 So you're a ring bearer then?
She’s confused “actor” with “activist”
She confused "african" with "person"
"children should be seen and not heard". I doubt those sort of parents would allow kids to see wicked anyway.
@ That is one deep-rooted racist comment. Are you a White Supremacist?
Say what you want about Ariana Grande, but she's definitely a fan of Wicked.
She sampled Popular on her very first album.
@@mariokarter13 and she definitely understood the assignment of Glenda. Did you see the clip that’s going around of her singing the opening number oh my God if that doesn’t screen perfect casting I don’t know what does.
Hollywood truly needs to shut down.
Movies are being ignored in theaters because fans feel cheated, attacked, or dismissed. Deadpool & Wolverine and Dune Part II were massively successful because (A) they gave fans what they wanted and (B) none of the cast talked down to the people most likely to see the film. I'll just wait to watch Wicked once it streams for free.
Also; Alien: Romulus was a great success because of the reasons you named
To paraphrase the critic jay Sherman. "If it's a remake of a Broadway show. See the Broadway show "
The one time I agree with John Campea. Cynthia Erivo is a diva and a narcissist. I have seen posts on X from people that have worked with her and confirm bad vibes from her. The movie will probably be a hit but I am not interested in it. I look forward to all your reviews.
And whats with her awkwardly showing her ridiculous finger nails in every photo. More narcissism.
Anyone notice how many with this kind of psychological profile/attitude wear weaves (or have been left bald from doing so)? Starting to think more than scalp follicles are affected by the lack of circulation…
Does anyone have a timeline for how long she's worn weaves? And did her wearing them affect her temperament?
You just need to look at the skin colour to know that.
Nah. It need to flop, those people need to learn
I find it hilarious that John Campea has the fan poster behind him in the background.
Really nailing home the message there.
Haven't she/they ever heard of the saying, "Never bite the hands that feed you."
Of course not! She's from Hollywood.
Apparently, Cynthia Erivo is the type of person who believes that she is owed adulation. Putting together a poster that covers any part of her face; no matter how well intended, just won’t do.
Cynthia Erivo should be worshiped, because this movie and the role she is playing in it, is actually all about her, not the character she is playing or the story the movie is going to tell. It’s all about me, me, me, me. Cynthia might add, “You should know that, you poor, mortal, peon moviegoer that you are.”
Hideous....
She is playing a character in a fantasy, it is not supposed to reflect the 'real her' by its nature. And the clue is in the green skin colour, not in any way her natural colour.
I doubt Im going out on a limb by saying I suspect theyll be pushing the allegory parallels alot about skin colour and stuff in this movie, so dont be shocked if some of the dialogue goes on about green lives matter too...
Ariana is a home-wrecker.
Erivos is a narcissistic drama-queen.
Hard pass from me.
Cynthia Erivo's behavior highlights a much larger problem with a specific demographic that society is not ready to address, and probably never will be.
Society is ready. Social and mainstream media keep silencing the discussion.
@@Nabo42 if you’re talking about what I think you’re talking about you freaking nailed it.
@@alansmithee5595 i’m just gonna say it if you look like Cynthia, you can barely get away with anything. Don’t be surprised if that comment gets deleted because God forbid people tell the truth.
@@Leamichellefan2244 I think the tides are turning but something big, like massive backlash against a "cancelling" attempt by someone like Erivo, will have to happen to really get things moving. It's close, it's coming, and I'm very much looking forward to it.
@@Nabo42 I hope so. I hope so because her behind needs to be canceled especially after this BS and again I bring this up constantly and I do apologize but I feel like it’s a very good point Ariana Grande‘s face is way more edited in that poster and she is not the one making a stink.
My niece and her friends were all excited for this movie. 'Finally! A reason to go to the theaters!' Nope. They don't even want anything to do with it anymore.
When John Campia makes a good analogy for this, you know you fucked up.
The edited poster with Jay Z’s face 🤣
I would've used Pumbaa, as he's a more accurate twin.
Cynthia is absolutely right, eyes are windows to the soul and portals for the viewer, direct connections to one's thoughts and intentions.
That's why in her case, covering them up was such a vast improvement.
Yep. Huge plank of wood energy
Studios need to start putting social media post stipulations into their contracts for actors before a film’s release.
This is way too far down in the comments. I have been saying this for so long. If the actors say anything attacking fans, penalize the actors.
@@Tonybigguns1 it wouldn’t be too different from an NDA. Standard practice with most companies.
@@Tonybigguns1 Have you considered all possible implications?
@catkin-z8g I did. If you mess with our movie and our fans you lose money. Rich people hate losing money. They will start to clap like trained seals.
@@Tonybigguns1If fans are free to edit the poster can they make pirate copies of the movie if they edit them? Could they argue look it is in the actors contract not to say anything to upset fans so they had a reasonable belief it was normal to make copies? People were making all fan art and the actors were saying how great it was and it was just the next step to make a edited version of the movie itself.
Hollywoke needs to go away FOREVER!
Indeed. It is only a matter of time now.
For this to happen, people need to stop buying tickets. I'm sure this movie will make a lot of money because people will still go see it
Be careful what you wish for, you may receive it.
W. W. Jacobs
They need to be reformed, Follyhood is getting way out of depth with the audience then and there.
Hollywoke is beyond reformation.
I don't think anyone's super-psyched for half of a 5-hour movie.
This has been the trend for a while. When they turned the last Harry Potter book into two movies and they did well, everyone realized why make only one when you can have two. It does not always go so well as Andre mentioned the bloatware that was The Hobbit trilogy and Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning has dropped the Part One from the title as they now believe that actually harmed the movie. Wicked was great as it was, and they should have left well enough alone. TBH, the movie is probably 10 years too late to really have caught the big wave of the musical and given the original stars the chance to resume their characters. The studio should tell Erivo to shut up or else. There is language in her contract should she say or do something to harm the movie. Time to CGI her out and replace with an animated Elphelba! (kidding)
@@joes9954 Very true. I would only add that the filler they pad this out with (and the run-time for a stage performance of Wicked is exactly the length of this movie, so it's HALF filler to get it to two parts) is very self-evident, and nobody likes it.
Nobody wants five hours of these howling divas 😂😂😂😂
I think my Mom might be (because she's a fan of Wizard of Oz), but I don't know if she's aware yet that it's a 'Part I' (She might not be aware of this outburst yet, either).
So she may yet have to go through that loss of interest that most everyone else has gone through already.
That woman, Erivo, she’s brutal on the eyes, holy cow !
She tries
👹
She is 💀 she has an Unbelivable voice though
@@amxst1819a million better singers 🤷
She legit looks better as a green witch.
The thing is, Campea trashes people who don’t like certain casting decisions as being cousin humpers, etc. Campea does the same behavior.
An outcome of a person suffering the disease known as Victimitis. Hypersensitivity leading to outrage and further victimhood.
You hear that chick describe the ariana controversy. She condemned the husband for leaving his wife but let ariana off the hook for leaving her husband because “she was gonna leave him anyway”? Does that make sense? Clear feminist bias.
EXACTLY! 🤣
For all we know , the guy’s wife cheated on him and the baby is not his …
Also how does she know Ariana was going to leave her husband ?
Another thing is, while the media keep bringing up Grande's situation, they don't mention Erivo did the same thing. She's twice left partners for someone else- first her boyfriend for another dude, then that dude for a married woman, who she's currently with. The media of course won't blame her for helping break up that woman's marriage, they just celebrate Erivo's "queerness".
Women are chauvinists… in other news the sky is blue
To the OP:
That’s not “feminist bias”, that’s sexism masquerading as feminism.
congratulations!
John Campea finally knows how the last 10 years felt to be a Starwars-fan, a Marvel-Fan, a He-man-fan, a Terminator-fan, etc.
And yet he will never put two and two together. He is that dense.
@@marcomarterer7232 with your permission I’m also going to add. He also knows how the fans of snow White and the little mermaid feel because we had to deal with the exact same BS and we were just told by him to accept it. I am a fan of wig and I’m glad he standing up for that. I still can’t take him seriously because I am also a fan of Ariel and snow White and he defended those wages mercilessly.
At this point, if I was a Hollywood movie producer, I would include a clause in all contracts that any actor or actress that I hire signs that would call for immediate termination and blacklisting from the studio if they even say, write, or tweet even one negative word toward the fans, the audience, or even the public in general. It's long overdue to teach these modern day versions of the court jester, that their words and actions have consequences.
Just hire 'real' professional. That's it.
Most people being hired is so high up in their horse and keep making stupid statement.
Yep, getting rid of these modern-day and virtue signaling wannabes would be a good start.
I wonder, hypothetically, if the film poster was perhaps originally intended to be something more like the original poster for the original musical stage play... but perhaps Cynthia Erivo or someone representing her took notice of this original plan and made them change it to show her face more or something along those lines... only for someone to make that fan-edited poster that makes the film poster look more like the original poster for the original musical stage play to come out anyway? I'm not saying that's the case, but It would be kind of ironicly funny if that was the case...
I think that is definitely what happened. She’s already had this argument with someone behind the scenes so I think this triggered something for Cynthia.
@@owenwildish331 I think it was and I think she threatened to quit if they didn’t do what she wanted.
@@sparrowwilson4514 OK I didn’t know about the behind-the-scenes argument. Any chance you could give me a little more juicy juice cause I’m interested please.
It certainly makes sense. It would also explain why they choose to use image of her where she looks… let’s say “unflattering” just to wind her up, cause that way they accepted her request…
Also, it’s rather amusing like she’s going on how she’s“communicating with her eyes” meanwhile she look there as if she just recovered from a lobotomy 🤦🏼♂️
Musical & Edited Posters: Something *Wicked* this way comes...
Original Movie Poster: *DULL SURPRISE!!!*
Hollywood, rich people and politicians, all try to preach morality while we all know they the most lacking of it
😂😂
Sounds like a case of terrible, awful MISCASTING!
Typical for any diversity hire.
Hollywood and its Stars need to stop with the arrogance and activism. For Chris sake just entertain us.
Being that the fan was just copying the poster from the play, shows me that Cynthia has zero knowledge of the actual play and story and this was just another job for her.
I am willing to bet that before this fiasco, Cynthia Erivo had either never seen the original play's poster or had forgotten it. That would make her overreaction to what she perceived as a cruel critique when seeing the fan-poster make sense. She likely never even thought of it as being an "homage to the previous poster". That's narcissistic actors for you.
@@Luciphell if you will be so kind as to allow me to do so I would like to join you in betting on that especially because now she’s claiming that when she was 25 she went to see the show which I highly doubt because if she had, she would know good and well with the poster supposed to look like and she wouldn’t be boo-hoo about it. She would be grateful actually like Ariana is being now I know Ariana is not everybody’s favorite person and that’s fine but you have to give her credit for being graceful about this whole thing.
@@Leamichellefan2244
You would think all of Hollywood would have gotten the message by now.
"Shut the fuck up and do your job. Entertain us and keep quiet about your politics and beliefs." It's like, how many plumbers come to your home and try to gas-light you into believing you are a bad person because you don't like the same people they do?
I don't think this mess is going to affect the box office but Erivo's career may not come clean.
Wait, it had a career?
It might. The fandoms that are primarily female in demographics tend to be the most unforgiving if you piss them off.
I really don’t know considering this might be a Barbie situation where there’s this big fandom this corner of the Internet doesn’t interact with.
@@RobertWilke she has a name. Of at least she still has it for now.
@@AndrésCoria-u1n what I’m about to say is absolutely no disrespect intended towards you, but it might affect the box office a good bit. I’m not saying this thing is gonna be a total failure, but the more and more people to get wind of this aren’t gonna want to see the movie thereby taking down the profits, but I do definitely agree with you that her career after this is God willing done.
@@Leamichellefan2244 I dont think most people care about what she said, tbh. People who are fans of the musical are going to be there anyway.
What should really be the issue is that the studio chose to race swap a white character. We are getting tired of that crap. The studios call us racist yet refuse to create new roles for black characters. Race swapping an established character is offensive to both races.
And it was a terrible choice, that green paint is unflattering to even the finest features but it made her nose look horrific. I also don’t get why they didn’t do the red lipstick, there’s no color contrast and she looks awful
Bro, she's green, anyone can play her. Why are u making this about race?
They could at least get a better looking actress. There are plenty of actresses that are easy on the eyes and can also sing. This woman looks like she fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
AND she’s almost 40 but her character is supposed to be 20 and starting college. Don’t tell me she got the part on merit and who best fit the character
@@ghosttroop115because she made it about race.....
Used to be a time when "stars" were not able to go off script like this, everything went through their agent, everything was carefully cultivated and controlled to give the public rhe best image of their star and the movie they were in.
When did agents lose control?
She new the guy was married and went with him anyway
Yes, it's the very definition of a homewrecker.
I think she also dated Naya Rivera's fiance
@osmodiy total pattern of behavior. She did it to Nomi and Mac Miller too.
I think Erivo & Ariana Grande just tanked the Wicked movie.
agree 100 percent that all enthusiasm I had for Wicked is gone.
I get that she's playing a witch , but , they still could've hired an attractive woman . But alas , the non-existent modern audience , I guess ?
I wouldn't be surprised if we find out she was offered the job without an audition
@@BranBal Probably. She’s gay and “African- American”. She probably got the role because of all the boxes she ticks.
Tokenism
@@alansmithee5595 And therein lies one of the many problems with box-ticking behavior - even IF she didn't get the role because of that, it's such common practice now that it becomes the default assumption.
@@alansmithee5595tbf to Erivo, she’s an accomplished singer un her own right. But she also happens to check all the boxes. A convenient coincidence? Probably not. Lol
Yep I was planning on seeing this….but now I’ll boycott. We need to teach studios a lesson to get rid of woke nonsense and muzzle their actors! Money talks ….not the woke talk they are peddling
No need for muzzles... The actors should know how to treat the fan base that pays them... if they don't studio's shouldn't employ them in the first place
She puts the ugh in ugly
Someone should walk up to ther during a promotion event and ask for her autograph but show her one of the fan posters. The melt down would be epic.
Well done Ariana's HANDLERS. Adult pretenders are only as savvy as their handlers.
wtf are you on
If one wants to be triggered, how about casting a black women as the "green" and "evil" character. Isn't this a too common trope??? Just stirring the pot ;)
Celebrities seriously don’t know how to keep their own foot out of their mouths nowadays.
What a shame this had to be done to this movie! My granddaughter and I have seen this play 3 times! My granddaughter came up to me when this happened and said to me “well I wish you didn’t already have tickets because this makes me so sad.” Hoping things cool down so we can enjoy the movie. I didn’t know there was a part 2. 😢
And both are almost 3 hour movies each.
I hate when actors attack the public for different trivia matter. Like the lack of viewers in a movie or they say something offence to the fans and play the victim card.
”It's not 2020 anymore, witch!"
Even without this, this probably wasn’t going to meet expectations. Movie adaptations of broadway musicals rarely ever do.
When you make shows and movies no body wanted...
And jam them full of DIL, identity politics, woke and gay ,poofer girl bosses....
When wonder why everything bombs hard ....
Then play the victim card and blame the audience....
Disney, Marvel ,Netflix and Amazon do this all the time ....
And audiences just dont care any more
She's getting the blame because she picked him and started hitting on him to cope with her breakup, she's a spoiled child
It takes 2 to tango, it is still the guys fault, for cheating on a wife and newborn. Ariana can be naked in front of you, if you are a real man with a wife and newborn you get out and go home.
How is there not a "shut the f**k up clause" whenever people sign on to these projects, and how the hell do actors have direct control of their own social media? It's not the 80's anymore when actors were mythical, untouchable figures, but now it's as simple as a Twitter post for you to hear every little thing they think and feel. Often tanking their own projects in process, cause now they're not mythical, they're just your average Joe on the internet, and we are free to crap on their day all we want as a collective.
Celebrities reeeeally need to remember their roles and responsibilities. They have a JOB to do. If I said everything on my mind at work, I'd get fired. It would impact my relationships at work. They've totally forgotten that we don't care what they think. It doesn't matter. Just do your job. That's what you chose to do and you know everything you say is going to make news. Sing. Act. Remain professional. We'll all love you. No politics. No wokeness. No special causes. So sjw and such. Just shut up and sing.
0:35 She looks like a vampire a la Grace Jones from a “Vamp” movie circa the 80s.
Except Grace Jones is FAR more attractive than this b!tch.
She looks like Nosferatu gone wrong
Devil
@@sird2333she actually looks like Don cheadle, with titties. I actually like Don cheto, I think Don Cheetos like one of the greatest actors of our time, and he's the guy. but she looks just like him in this movie. I actually read the book like more than once I loved the book by Gregory McGuire elphaba, was not unattractive she was just green which happens to be my favorite color Cynthia, is very talented but she's not attractive at all she is not a nice person and she is not a nice looking woman. That's where this whole diversity crap comes in they just stuck some chick in the movie that is talented she really can sing but them making alphaba ugly or actually just unattractive is not cool because she was not unattractive in the book she was just green she was born green. and personally I've never seen the play I wish they would have made a movie true to the book that was not a musical but I would have watched the movie if it had someone in there that was number one attractive like the character and two it wasn't an egotistical nut
Grace Jones is beautiful though….
This is why I refuse to go to movies anymore. Its not worth it.
It's certainly not worth paying $18-$20 for.
Why is everyone assuming this was going to be a hit? When was the last time a Broadway -> Hollywood adaption wasn’t a trash fire? Or at best a mid tier bland disappointment. We do remember Cats, right? Les Mis was Le Meh. And going back to Buzby Berkeley. Movies made organically as musicals work. But remarkably few based on a stage production do for some reason.
It appeals to the same women who made Barbie a hit.
@@MidnightsEdge But does it? Everyone assumes “guaranteed hit” because the Broadway musical is beloved. But there is less synergy between those two audiences than people seem to assume. Case in point the troublesome actress. She is apparently some huge Broadway Star. Normies don’t know who she is. Nobody is buying movie tickets based on her. Maybe if they had gotten Idina Menzel? Barbie worked because Barbie is a shared multigenerational experience among women. In the way Star Wars used to be for men. Wicked? Maybe they’ve seen a TH-cam video of that one song… and it was Idina (Elsa!) Menzel singing it.
Les Miserables was awesome
The Wizard of oz did great
The book was huge back in 2009. Like a lord of the rings for basic bitches.
Remember everyone. It’s the wicked witch of the WEST, not Wakanda
This is what true privilege looks like people
AG doesnt need any help getting dragged into the gutter... she already lives there.
I accuse her of wearing greenface.
Everyone who's ever gotten seasick is aggrieved! 😁
@@kingleech16 Kermit the frog, Master Yoda, and that green lady from Star Trek TOS are none too happy.
I can't think what media she's been watching since 2016 to see how this kind of publicity turns out.
These movies can’t keep hiring Political Blacks who are only interested in elevating their own individual standing as representatives of Political Blackness, and will HAVE to start hiring actors that just want to make a movie that people want to see so the actors make money
@@OldManDoom exactly thank you Cynthia even said oh I’m bringing my black experience to the role the second she said that I was like nope I’m out and then I found out about this. Oh good Lord.
Cynthia Erivo - do I have to know her?
Luckily, no. She is basically the female equivalent of Jonathan Majors. Like him, Hollywood is trying to unnaturally force her onto audiences.
I remember seeing her as smeagol in LOTR. Other than that, I don’t know any other projects
Cynthia looks more like her character IRL than in the movie.
Being a Star Wars and comic book fan, I know this disappointment and hurt well. I don't like Wicked, but I don't like seeing fans of anything getting crapped on for no reason other than displaying their love and passion.
Everyone thinks she's delulu, even the woke theatre girls.
that bad, huh..? Ooff...
Why is the Wicked movie TWO PARTS?
Part 1: Elphaba snaps half of all life in the universe out of existence
Part 2: Everyone is brought back to life in an epic climactic battle for the Infinity Gauntlet
I will say I am a huge Wicked fan, I think I've seen the stage show about a dozen times. I had been looking forward to seeing this adaptation, but not anymore. I'm going to give the film a miss & have got tickets to the stage show instead. They appreciate, not hate, the fans there!
I wonder if a bankruptcy or two will teach the studios to keep their people in line.
honestly its a breath of fresh air just to have an actress/actor reply as gracefully and neutral as Ariana did, instead of piling on and doubling down with the activists taking over, in this day-and-age. Its sad that something that was once so normal as being thankful and appreciative of an audience or fanbase, is so rare.
Not exactly please that that they race swapped the character.
She’s green bruh
@@JessaHawke Actress is race swapped.
@@JessaHawkeIt's not that, for me. It's that they didn't change her to a vodoun practitioner instead, but did a race blind casting and kept the european witch esthetic. It's like making her bland. They didn't take the step fully, it's a meh
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the reason to never, ever, race swap a known character with a sensitive, race hustling person...
I love how the guy breaking up with his wife and going out with Grande is the bad person in that interview ... it takes two to tango you know. Why didn't Grande tell him no way and to go back to his wife and new born child?
She's done it before though
@@osmodiy Maybe she deserves the title of Homewrecker then ;)
That actress would have to be one of the most breathtakingly extreme narcissists on the planet.
Grande has a lifetime of experience dealing with the press and it showed. Maybe Erivo should have sought her advice. I assume her ego is just too big for that.
NOW they want to blame the Black Woman for speaking out, Blame the Fams for changing the poster !!! They should mind their own business !!!