EICMA 2023: Zontes 4K
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- EICMA 2023: Zontes 4K
This is my video from the Zontes stand at the EICMA 2023 show in Milan, Italy in November 2023.
They had a lot of bikes on display, thought he 700cc adventure bike towards the end is probably the most interesting, but had the least available information about it. I'll have to see what I can find out about it later.
Thanks for watching!
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Zontes do make very stylish bikes. Can’t say about reliability but certainly getting up there. The 700 is a new engine triple that they developed for future bigger bikes as the 350’s are currently singles in a variety of models, scooters included. Thanks for showing these new models & concepts 👌 Out of all the Chinese manufacturers… I place in order: CFMoto, Zontes, KOVE. KOVE is definitely not last. It’s definitely getting up there too👍
Thanks for that.
Zontes makes the engine for the new Beta Alp 4.0. No problems for them in the German market, they just run. Same importer as Beta. They are a brand to watch. Günter/Nürnberg
Yup and definitely a lot of interest in them.
Zontes another good selection of bikes. I think all the other manufacturers should sit up and take note.
Yes, they do have a lot. Really making the most of the platforms they have.
I just saw another vlogger pointing out that the ADV 501 scooter has a pair of front pegs just behind the footboards for the rider to stand up - wild! 😅
Awesome. Will keep an eye out for that next time. Thanks!
Can you go over the Hero Motocorp stand. Nobody seems to have covered it.
Yes. I’ll try to get there today.
These CHINESE branded motorbikes are FANTASTIC LOOKING. People should give them a go. After all MOST things are made in CHINA nowadays. Liking the CF MOTO 450 👍👍👍AFFORDABLE is the key.
I hope so. No pricing yet for the 450.
Had zero issues with my G1 after 2500 miles ish.
Like the GK,s the mid range adv bit fugly. The new big boy looks interesting but I'd rather a CF moto or Motomorini re looks. Depends on price/specs.
2500 its nothing.tell this after 25000 miles or better 50000,as my xt600 has zero issues
@@thodoris3790 Its a 125! 2500 is fair chunk. Plus Zontes only a few years old....same for other Chinese brands. The whole point is the reliability issues/quality has increased.
Yes jury is still out. Everyone knows this.
Yup, I'd happily order a 450 MT or that Corsaro Sport right now.... ok, maybe after a test ride. And when I know the prices...
1:13 So this mean that G1 model is coming to Italy? I waited months for this Eicma hoping to see this one particular model coming.
I'm not sure I'm afraid. Your local dealer might be able to tell you and provide a timeline.
the 700 has 3 cylinders
Thanks.
China Is certainly upping they game with these array of bikes . I'd have no issue in owning one , very nice indeed.
What about the morality side of it? You are giving them money, a portion of which will go to the Chinese government, and they have horrible human rights record just ask the uighers, the Tibetans, the Hong Kong rebels and a lot more to come.
Buying Chinese has nothing to do with quality it's to do with ethics
I suppose it’s also what they are like to ride and the availability of dealers and support. But yes, the design and quality is improving each year.
@@seauryakumar Then I should avoid anything Japanese or German? I do get your point though and China is a worry.
However I think they know a loss of trade with America/Europe would be terrible for them.
@@MauriceTarantulas if you lived in the 1930s - 40s then yes avoid trading with the Japanese and the German but a lot has changed since then. Sadly things have only gotten worse with China (I mean their rulers CCP not the people in general).
You may think it's all about trade but it's not, they have greater ambitions far too many to explain in a comment but if you do the research you will understand just how evil CCP is and hence we need to avoid China altogether unless they change their ways if people don't do this you are just creating a monster.
@@seauryakumar Maybe. Maybe not. Anyways I like to keep an open mind and this is about bikes not politics.
Hi Andre , Zontes and cfmoto look great , is italjet there if they are any news on the italjet 500!!! 🏍🏍👍👍
Hi, I think they were, but I ran out of time I'm afraid. Today was supposed to the a 'Trade' Day (so still not open to the public), but it was rammed. I gave up filming around 1pm, then managed to get a couple of quick ones in at quiet stands after 4pm. Unfortunately Italjet wasn't one of them. I can only apologise.
You mentioned the 500cc scooter. Is it a prototype or a scooter ready to be released in Europe? Do you happen to know this info? Thanks
Hi, I'm sorry but I don't. Unfortunately 'Europe' may have several variations by country, so your local dealer or importer might be the best place to ask.
Please cover Zongshen and Lifan if they are here in Eicma 2023.
Hi, I’m sorry but I was only at the show for Tuesday and Wednesday. Once it open to the public, it’s so busy that filming is pretty much impossible.
Zontes: Can I copy your homework?
Honda X-ADV & Yamaha X-MAX: Sure just make it a bit different so it doesn't seem you just copied it.
Zontes: sure
Though doesn’t that happen a lot? When BMW switched from an asymmetric headlamp on the S1000RR my first thought was that it looked like an R1 from the front. Adventure scooters are a segment, so I’d expect them all to look similar. Same as adventure where there seem to be two choices, beak or no beak. I’m not saying that they aren’t copying some features, but that it’s not unique to Zontes. I’m sure Yamaha and Honda ‘borrow’ ideas from each other too.
The Chinese are coming up fast. Just look at EV cars. 4-5 years ago they had negligible market share, this year they outsold Tesla and are now the largest producer of EV cars in the world. Brits should just take a look at the MG4 EV that is doing great sales in the UK right now. Prices are low and quality & eqpt levels are high and getting higher. Frankly if I was a European motorbike or car mfr, I'd be very worried, especially as they are being forced to divest in China atm due to tough market conditions. It's all going one way in other words...
Yup, though India is doing ok too, be that RE, TVS, Mahindra etc.
Absolutely.@@PeakMotorcycles
3:21 o mais interessante para mim
Great!
you miss 2 touring scuters 501cc
I can only apologise. Time was short. I shall try to get them next time.
So the rumor is true, but OMFG a triple seven? And on a (coughcoughTracercoughcough) ADV bike?
BS aside, really hope Zontes will churn out that new engine soon! I always hate Tracer 7, but this may give the new Tenere and SuperTen a run for their money!
Yup. It's great that they are doing something different. Perhaps that'll nudge Triumph to do a Tiger Sport Rallye Pro...
Guessing it comes from China ? As a vlogger i think you could be more specific.
I guess so, but then, how many other videos always include the bikes origin?
He's there to look at bikes not start political debates.
delusione, solo scooter e ADV..il resto sono modelli già esistenti.. mi aspettavo un'evoluzione della Gk350
The 700 triple is new I guess, and many aren’t familiar with the range, so trying to cater for all…
For God’s sake, Larry?! Stop babbling, go in kind of prepared just a little bit, be focused and gather some information. Don’t need to see you. Thanks
Thanks for the feedback. Do you know how many manufacturers are at EICMA, how much information they publish beforehand, and how little time there is to film? A video takes a couple of hours to film, edit and publish and pays between £2-£20, not including the cost of spending a few days in Italy. I can try for this year, but I fear you are asking the impossible and respectfully apologise that I don’t think I’ll be able to.
Tanto ferro, cheio de luzes quadradas enormes 😢😮 horrível
Un poco no tanto creo pero CF moto y Motomorini mas guapos.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... They will appeal to someone.
A nível estético sempre cativam mais que muitas top brands, nesse aspecto a Honda, Suzuki e Kawasaki pararam no tempo, a nova Honda nx500 parece a motinha do carteiro
CFmoto is far better than Zontes....
From what I’ve seen, I’d be inclined to agree, but I haven’t done a direct comparison.
Voge as well
@@vageliskoios1062 Yep...
Quality looks impressive but styling is a bit "out there".
It is. Not quite yet on the money like some of the others.