Actually, the last lever connectors you've shown are the old Wago design. And I still have a ton of them here. But there is a reason they redesigned their connectors. It's just better. The grip is tighter and they are just more robust and compact.
I always pre-twist. I use bent needle nose pliers to hold the wires close to the nut, and twist with a lineman's pliers to maximize surface contact (for increased conductivity). I use the nut for insulation only...
if you have a good idea on how to make a long mitre cut, i would love that. Meaning, i have doors that my Robot vacuum cleaner can't climb over, so i need to make a long shallow triangular shape. I have few tools to do it, so either a circular saw, without a guide or a hand saw.
Where i live, connecting two pieces of shorter wire to make a longer one is against building code. Whats the use case for these wire connectors? Im sure it’s not just to make longer wires.
I'm not arguing which is better or not. Just explaining why we use em here. One of the reasons though that wago and other expensive gear and supplies are popular in America is because it boosts speed. More speed is more jobs is more money. There's also the time factor for customers. Customer doesn't have to pay you as much for your time. And there's also wire nuts too? They're the old connection style and still fairly quick. A bit cheaper than wagos too. But also, don't listen to us Yankees! As much as I love capitalism, there's no such thing as a good system when the government is corrupt and allows plenty of loopholes in the system where customers can get screwed over be it by big companies or by the entire system. So yeah, there's likely a reason why your cost to build a house is so much less expensive than our cost to build a house.
Very interesting. Thanks for your review. I like the Wagos because they are very easy to use and fot its great quality. But I have found that they are for up to 12 AWG gauge. Do you know if Wago produce for 10 AWG? A 10 AWG is to thick for the 221 series. Thanks
The 221-4 series is up to 4mm2 or about 12 AWG, the 221-6 series fits up to 6mm2 or about 10mm2. It should at least. Try Wago 221-613 on google see if you can find anything. Hope it helps.
Wouldn't recommend the wagos/push ins for the reason of they fail under high load (space heaters, dedicated circuits etc). Used them in a small 15A branch circuit for a pigtail, couple months later service call back to the same house because the connector partially melted space heater being plugged in. I know space heaters are a usual suspect for rare issues but it's been wire to wire connections since then. Don't want to take that risk.
I'm viewing this from Europe in disbelief. These connectors are strictly forbidden here - with good reason. Even so, in North America, the voltage is half of ours, and at the same load, the current would be the double. Any student knows that the power dissipated in a resistive connector is current squared times resistance. Hence, you have a 400% greater chance to burn down your house using these connectors than we would have.
Then how do you explain millions of homes that use wire nuts for decades have not suddenly burned down? Plus we have homes in all types of weather here too.
Give it time. Lever nuts are still more expensive, and only one company makes them with any kind of quality. Once wago doesn't have a monopoly, and more companies make them, they'll become more affordable, and more popular.
That was a neat and to the point video man. Thanks.
I'm a WAGO convert these days but when I did use wire nuts I always pre twisted to minimize the chance of causing the coil to spin inside the plastic.
But that's just making any maintenence more problematic and stresses the cores, we don't use wire nuts or twist cores in the UK.
3:44 Whether using a power tool or by hands when applying (twisting) the nut, hold the wires as closes as possible to the nut.
Thank you kind sir, video is excellent.
4:06 You say to strip 1/4" but what I see 10 seconds later looks much closer to a full inch.
Actually, the last lever connectors you've shown are the old Wago design. And I still have a ton of them here. But there is a reason they redesigned their connectors. It's just better. The grip is tighter and they are just more robust and compact.
I always pre-twist. I use bent needle nose pliers to hold the wires close to the nut, and twist with a lineman's pliers to maximize surface contact (for increased conductivity). I use the nut for insulation only...
if you have a good idea on how to make a long mitre cut, i would love that. Meaning, i have doors that my Robot vacuum cleaner can't climb over, so i need to make a long shallow triangular shape. I have few tools to do it, so either a circular saw, without a guide or a hand saw.
Where i live, connecting two pieces of shorter wire to make a longer one is against building code.
Whats the use case for these wire connectors? Im sure it’s not just to make longer wires.
They're mainly used to wire a device to a circuit. The device receives power, and the circuit can continue to the next device.
Wago connectors used according to instructions are the best. Those who said it's opposite, never read those instructions.
Old school wire nuts
Wago 221 lifers represent
I'm not arguing which is better or not. Just explaining why we use em here. One of the reasons though that wago and other expensive gear and supplies are popular in America is because it boosts speed. More speed is more jobs is more money. There's also the time factor for customers. Customer doesn't have to pay you as much for your time. And there's also wire nuts too? They're the old connection style and still fairly quick. A bit cheaper than wagos too.
But also, don't listen to us Yankees! As much as I love capitalism, there's no such thing as a good system when the government is corrupt and allows plenty of loopholes in the system where customers can get screwed over be it by big companies or by the entire system. So yeah, there's likely a reason why your cost to build a house is so much less expensive than our cost to build a house.
Very interesting. Thanks for your review. I like the Wagos because they are very easy to use and fot its great quality. But I have found that they are for up to 12 AWG gauge. Do you know if Wago produce for 10 AWG? A 10 AWG is to thick for the 221 series. Thanks
The 221-4 series is up to 4mm2 or about 12 AWG, the 221-6 series fits up to 6mm2 or about 10mm2. It should at least. Try Wago 221-613 on google see if you can find anything. Hope it helps.
Wouldn't recommend the wagos/push ins for the reason of they fail under high load (space heaters, dedicated circuits etc). Used them in a small 15A branch circuit for a pigtail, couple months later service call back to the same house because the connector partially melted space heater being plugged in. I know space heaters are a usual suspect for rare issues but it's been wire to wire connections since then. Don't want to take that risk.
I'm viewing this from Europe in disbelief. These connectors are strictly forbidden here - with good reason. Even so, in North America, the voltage is half of ours, and at the same load, the current would be the double. Any student knows that the power dissipated in a resistive connector is current squared times resistance. Hence, you have a 400% greater chance to burn down your house using these connectors than we would have.
All types of connectors are forbidden, or the main ones profiled?
Then how do you explain millions of homes that use wire nuts for decades have not suddenly burned down? Plus we have homes in all types of weather here too.
Could you clarify which connectors are you referring to here? All of them? Which wire connectors do you recommend for best safety?
Well said. That's my concern. The Wago I2R heating would be greater in the USA...
those who say Wago are bad are acting like im going to play tug o war with my wiring after everything is installed.
Push connectors not reusable ??? You simply need to twist and pull the wire to take it out of the connector.
Many manufacturers don't allow that due to possible issues that might arise if you re-use them. It's a liability thing.
That's a 1/4 inch?!? th-cam.com/video/onvIQozNq7Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0f_JWJgPP2kUhHGN&t=249
Also @ 4:30 instruction clearly state to strip to 1/2 inch...
About push connectors... Very wrong! They can be reused, the wire needs to be twisted bit by bit and pulled at the same time, it will easily come out.
How to use deprecated stuff 101, just use a wago
Give it time. Lever nuts are still more expensive, and only one company makes them with any kind of quality. Once wago doesn't have a monopoly, and more companies make them, they'll become more affordable, and more popular.
Wago is 2x more expensive for single use, 5x more expensive for the clamp ones
And away we go! Current is conducted across surface area. Twisted wires maximizes the surface contact area between wires. Wagos suck.
Wagos are good in small quantities but for large projects it becomes very expensive.
Wagos to electricians are like sharkbite to plumbers, total noob ish.
Any "electrician" twisting cores or using wirenuts on site in the UK, would be asked to pack their tools and be shown off site.
Video starts at 3:50. Half way into the entire video. Nobody clicked this to hear about Canadian UL certification symbols.