How I made my own water cooling blocks and a added water cooled DyzeDesign pro hotend.

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2025

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  • @properprinting
    @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Hi guys! This video took a little longer than usual because it was a bit more work than I thought it would be xD I’m very happy that this turned out the way I wanted. I hope you enjoy this one and have an awesome day!

    • @novazipstream2
      @novazipstream2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are a mad lad! I would have never thought of doing something like this to my Ender 3 (mainly because I don't have the skill to do so).

    • @t-risely
      @t-risely 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      AMAZING
      Keep up the amazing work Jon, I can't wait to see the final product and if the rims work or not!
      I'm currently trying to get a 2 in 1 out system working on my printer. It's a nightmare!

    • @MakerViking
      @MakerViking 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome stuff Jon! I guess you will pull cold air from the outside of the case to that radiator?

    • @mazni50
      @mazni50 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      awsome project. i was waiting for this video. i hope next one will not take as much :)

    • @louismenke8002
      @louismenke8002 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was an awesome video, great editing, great sidetracks and an awesome project!

  • @xXxGuilhermeB
    @xXxGuilhermeB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Next episode: Replaced my Ender 3 extruder motor with a 600hp Mustang block - see that filament go !

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      haha and use the heat of the exhaust to melt the filament xD

    • @Damicske
      @Damicske 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meh a ICE isn't good controllable, I rather see him use big servos :)

    • @Silverdev2482
      @Silverdev2482 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Damicske its a joke

  • @londongrace5784
    @londongrace5784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    That X-ray was pretty cool, its awesome that you were able to use that for your project!

  • @AndreMarkovic
    @AndreMarkovic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how you always seem to regret every decision you make as you are building, and giggle the whole way through! You bring so much happiness sir! :)

  • @Mr_Pewpy_But-Whole
    @Mr_Pewpy_But-Whole 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I visited Austin Texas recently and had a tour with Protobuilds with Marshall and he built large Cartesian 3D printers with enclosures that are heated. I asked him about what he did to cool everything and from what he said it looks like you're doing well but he mentioned one thing that he ran across with his heated chamber and his direct drive setup he mentioned that when his chamber was heated to 100-140 Celsius that the filament getting fed into the direct drive extruder was getting too hot as well as the direct drive extruder gears. His solution was to enclose the filament going to the direct drive extruder and to push external pressurized air so that it would cool the filament as it would go into the extruder and the blow off pressurized air would cool the extruder gears.
    great work Jon !
    if you have any questions contact Marshall from protobuilds in austin texas. he has been down this road and is extremely knowledgeable

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting, thanks a lot for this information! I'm sure I'm going to learn a lot from this project xD

  • @daynewoudstra3308
    @daynewoudstra3308 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blijft leuk dat gevloek tussendoor. Eindelijk een proper watergekoelde 3d printer video!

  • @VistaPanoramicabyLello
    @VistaPanoramicabyLello 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey there... Lello here from Brazil again!!! Almost 15k... congrats!!! Let's head to 100k...and I'll still be here with you. Nice shirt by the way... Maybe one day I'll go to this amazing festival!!! RnR 4ever!!!

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Lello! This is so awesome! That festival was lit, I've seen Alice Cooper which was unforgettable!

  • @JoshuaSolanes
    @JoshuaSolanes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't know how you don't have more subscribers. Your videos are always fantastic: great video quality, unique and interesting content, and you explain your build processes. You've definitely become one of my favorite channels

  • @rap-id-ralph
    @rap-id-ralph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No better start of the weekend than a proper proper printing vid :)

  • @rikdenbreejen5230
    @rikdenbreejen5230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, you are awesome, you deserve a sponsor!
    Nee, maar serieus, jij bent echt geweldig!

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Rik! I hope to find a good filament sponsor since I'm going to need a LOT of filament xD

    • @rikdenbreejen5230
      @rikdenbreejen5230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Proper Printing Maybe this sounds like a silly idea, but maybe you could make a filament exturder.
      I hear (and am experiencing, because i am making one myself) that they are reasonably priced. you could also buy one, the filasturder is €500. long term returns could out weight the costs. You could consider it. 500 euros is about 25 spools worth.

  • @Schwift3D
    @Schwift3D 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Puts a smile on my face seeing how happy and excited you get when something works out :) can't wait to see the next part man.

  • @YannRetout
    @YannRetout 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love this new series even more than the first one! Pushing everything 10 levels higher than the "next level", insane! And of course I do love the engineering sprinkled all over it, great design!

  • @ConstantijnC
    @ConstantijnC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not only the project is a solid 10/10 but oh man I'm drooling over your production quality!

  • @grahamserle7930
    @grahamserle7930 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You a reminiscent of a mad scientist but in a good way. I love your creative mind.

  • @kinomaniak123
    @kinomaniak123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Great video like all of them. Small tip for pipe bending, heard from old school - use sand instead of lead.

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! Good suggestion, I did it once at school with lead and I was doubting to use sand. I didn't use sand because I thought it would be more difficult to hold it in place, but that was before I realized I had to close the tube on both ends xD. Melting lead leaded to this fun B roll sequence though ;) I'll try sand next time

    • @wickedjack1222
      @wickedjack1222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@properprinting Even filling them with water and freezing over night does the trick !

    • @anoukeilers543
      @anoukeilers543 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or take a thin ‘trekveer’ and pull it through. After bending you just pull it out

    • @herllraiser6662
      @herllraiser6662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Silicon sand is what you use, ive seen motorbike frames bent in this way.. well ive seen it because me and a friend did it to my supermoto frame and he was taught to do it that way by a well known metal fabricator here in the uk. You have to then heat the metal up while bending it, it keeps the round shape but it does make the outer wall thin if bent to much..

  • @kevfquinn
    @kevfquinn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Insane, as ever! Awesome stuff.
    I have a new plan - whenever a newbie asks on the Facebook groups what mods they should do to their new printer, I'm going to point them to this channel :-D

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Topic goes like: "Hi I'm new to 3D printing and just printed this dog, what's the first thing I can do to make it better?" And you're like: "Make yourself a water cooled system" xD Cool that you want to share my channel, thanks Kevin!

    • @kevfquinn
      @kevfquinn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The way I've seen it recently is "I've just ordered my first printer, what mods should I make when I get it?" :-D

  • @aldohz
    @aldohz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your proyect, the editing, even your job is amazing.

  • @6pici6
    @6pici6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for him to print a rim for a few episodes now... but it's still worth watching!

  • @skydragon1966
    @skydragon1966 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That X-ray machine is awesome

  • @jarrenvanman2570
    @jarrenvanman2570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You deserve more than 13.6k subs mate. Great work and awesome videography!

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for mentioning the videography! I love this aspect and I'm still learning

  • @braindead1985
    @braindead1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    skills everywhere from filming to editing and your projects

  • @tomandrews5392
    @tomandrews5392 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice ,,,I like how you did the steppers motors a simple change but a bit a task getting there,,,,Nice job dude...

  • @williamcamp4157
    @williamcamp4157 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loook an innovator for the people.... You and Ivan are my favorite

  • @adamanddog
    @adamanddog 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude gots a x-ray machine. Damn props!

  • @miso89
    @miso89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That "tyfus"when the rod dropped made me chuckle I'm a dutch guy and I can relate!

  • @toddspeck9415
    @toddspeck9415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome work. Your editing is top notch. Thanks for showing this sick printer.

  • @raulinpr9630
    @raulinpr9630 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clear tubing would really make it cool. Seeing the green coolant flow would be awesome. Great build.

  • @danielhertz7266
    @danielhertz7266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome. I bought a Dyze design carbide nozzle, but held off on the extruder. But now I'm reconsidering....

  • @LastV8Interceptors
    @LastV8Interceptors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vids always. Thx. The xray machine has a real sci-fi feel to it!!

  • @DigChaos
    @DigChaos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude you’re a madman! Lol that Xray machine is awesome, was not expecting it to be 3D! Your videography work is excellent too, can’t wait for the next video!

  • @GizmoTheGreen
    @GizmoTheGreen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to see you print those wheels

  • @1091tube
    @1091tube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    really helpful to see the tube bending and soldering, and really like the idea of using the motor housing as the heatsink. I am looking forward to the enclosure and anything you can talk about its usefulness and temperature control...

  • @hosjmanne
    @hosjmanne 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Te gekke video weer! Kan niet wachten op de volgende...

  • @dralionblackheart6643
    @dralionblackheart6643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For the pipe bending I have used sand instead of lead, I heard that you could even use ice.
    Ohhh man. that X-Ray. Nerdgasm !
    Keep the good work. Cheers.

  • @colinfielder6695
    @colinfielder6695 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating to watch Jon, you are the bad ass of 3d printing and I can't wait for the next video

  • @mrbridger5
    @mrbridger5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so cool. Crazy water cooling dude. 👌

  • @Mangos-yd8jd
    @Mangos-yd8jd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man THIS IS COOL! I've been doing something similar with an ender 3 the past few months, and have run into so many issues, but it's thankfully almost done.
    Seeing this build was so inspirational!! Thank you so much!!! Cant wait to see the print results!

  • @Zachary3DPrints
    @Zachary3DPrints 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very COOL video, I think the COOLest one... and it's not an overheated reaction. LOL yup brings back the overclocking era....

  • @waynekeenan6252
    @waynekeenan6252 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome content as always keep it coming you're above and beyond everyone else on here it's amazing to watch thanks

  • @codyedition
    @codyedition 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, loving this project. can't wait to see what materials and design you decide for your enclosure

  • @apcjonker
    @apcjonker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wat een briljant idee om de back cover van de motor te voorzien van koelbuisjes.
    Er zou markt voor zijn als je dit cnc gefreesd en met gangbare koppelingetjes zou kunnen kopen.

  • @scott5017
    @scott5017 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is ridiculously over-engineered and i LOVE it! So impressive 👏.

  • @jggraphx
    @jggraphx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Holy shit!!😱That is a sick ass printer! Don’t stop keep up the good work!. Can’t wait to the next upload. I love these kind of videos I’m always learning something 😎👍

  • @ClockwerkIndustries
    @ClockwerkIndustries 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahaha thats awesome I been wanting to CNC machine a custom hot end thats watercooled for a long time just never got around to it with my other work going on, this is a cool setup! Cant wait to see it printing!

  • @TMProjection
    @TMProjection 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats mad bro, incredible work

  • @jana171
    @jana171 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are SO inspiring and funny !! Cool video, great craftsmanship, awesome project... simply AMAZING !

  • @TheDarkGunner100
    @TheDarkGunner100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your editing is sooo on point
    really love it!

  • @erikschiegg68
    @erikschiegg68 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool that this is done already, thx.

  • @avejst
    @avejst 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, great update
    New approach for the cooling
    Thanks for sharing :-)

  • @artefakt3d300
    @artefakt3d300 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the game mortal combat it would say: proper printing wins! fatality! flawless victory!. nice job man

  • @PhillipTorrickeBarton
    @PhillipTorrickeBarton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice!
    Next you need to make some thermal blankets for the motors to help prevent thermal absorption from the ambient heat from the enclosure.

  • @dothis
    @dothis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this project.
    Should be very fun to follow.

  • @giovanniboato4617
    @giovanniboato4617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOOOOOW your videos quality went up a lot lately, the content is amazing as usual! KEEP IT UP

  • @mr702s
    @mr702s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing, the only thing is cooling the steppers on the back makes it harder to add encoders. IMO the most significant thing missing from consumer and prosumer 3D printers is encoders for steppers.

  • @dipt_tpid
    @dipt_tpid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Next video: I installed a RTX2080 in my CR-10

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      hahaha using the full GPU power to process the gcode generated out of vertexes smaller than the individual pixels xD

  • @batcadragos
    @batcadragos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, you do some cool stuff. Keep it up!

  • @doctor49152
    @doctor49152 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you've really upped your editing and video quality. Looking forward to seeing more.

  • @isaacchen3366
    @isaacchen3366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, found this channel by accident but I'm sure glad I did, keep up the good work!

  • @matthijsschreuder9904
    @matthijsschreuder9904 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heel vet idee, waterkoeling op een 3d printer, mooie producten ook die je gebruikt voor dit project, vind de serie video's steeds leuker worden, heel interessant, vooral de technische kant van je video's is geweldig om te zien enne..die X-ray machine is uber vet!

  • @Vez3D
    @Vez3D 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool project man :)

  • @antonwinter630
    @antonwinter630 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive been following along on this series. so far, i have been thinking, i can do that, i can build that. today i got left far far behind. you are building a thing of beauty

  • @reddayzz
    @reddayzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One more sick video!!!! You are always coming up with innovative and cool stuff, and the filming/editing skills are also on point. That X-Ray machine is crazy!!! Really enjoyable :)

  • @daoudtagharbit3168
    @daoudtagharbit3168 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastische job Jon! Wel je hebt altijd van die interessante projectjes hahahah

  • @VincentGroenewold
    @VincentGroenewold 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm already having SUCH a big smile on my face after just 1:30 minutes in. I subscribed to the right channel. ;) Btw: The Verge has a great video on water cooling a PC I've heard, so be sure to take notes from that one.
    En "made out of frustration" en "godverdetering" moet je trademarken. ;)

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Awesome! I'm going to check that channel, thanks! Maybe I can use some of these quotes for merch xD

    • @GogogoFolowMe
      @GogogoFolowMe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope their tutorial is better than the PC build one...

    • @novaenricarter705
      @novaenricarter705 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GogogoFolowMe FOR REAL XD

  • @Metalhart1
    @Metalhart1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome Mods! Great Idea for your motor cooling. I was thinking copper tubing might be easier to work with? Looking forward to seeing this in action!

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! Soldering copper on aluminum is possible, but this was the tubing I already had lying around and it's less common to use. This made it more interesting to show I recon.

  • @deutschdominik
    @deutschdominik 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think i've found the Der 8auer of the 3d printing community and i f* love it 👍

  • @HeimoVN
    @HeimoVN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, this is just the motivation I need to go work on my coreXY project...

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! I recon that's a daunting project, good luck!

    • @HeimoVN
      @HeimoVN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@properprinting it is a bit yes, I am also aiming for a heated chamber, but I am going to attempt to mount the steppers in a basement area of the printer and transmit the power to the kinematics with driveshafts.. I may make a video when I am done in a couple of months lol

    • @mhack9881
      @mhack9881 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HeimoVN I hope you will, really like seeing what you guys are capable of doing

  • @theGermanPrintingNerd
    @theGermanPrintingNerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW absolute cool Mate

  • @kenlipper874
    @kenlipper874 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want one of those x-ray machines! How does this channel only have 14k subscribers?

  • @captivenut4122
    @captivenut4122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving every aspect of this! Great job! Keep it up!

  • @jchristensen2022
    @jchristensen2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Freaking awesome work Jon! Entertaining and inspiring.

  • @SPvo__
    @SPvo__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    X ray overkill hahah lekker man👍

  • @patrickmaartense7772
    @patrickmaartense7772 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    SICK !!! loving it....

  • @SshanIcsS
    @SshanIcsS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Video. Please more!

  • @glennleader8880
    @glennleader8880 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos, you have very innovative ideas, and you're not scared to put those ideas into action. You also have really good production values. Totally awesome. I think you should make your next video about DIY volcano hotends... By taming Mount Etna. And I bet you could probably do it! Keep up the good work, you inspire me to do better.

  • @alberthoang8626
    @alberthoang8626 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man. I like ur music and the way u laugh ur work 😄

  • @CanKarakuzulu
    @CanKarakuzulu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, love your videos Jon.

  • @CdrCARN
    @CdrCARN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sick! I Love your content style.

  • @DaMobzz
    @DaMobzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hahah lekker bezig man, love it!

  • @Tohaxyz
    @Tohaxyz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. Thank you. Waiting for the new one!!!

  • @jamesmiller7278
    @jamesmiller7278 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two suggestions, you might consider using supply & return manifolds to distribute & collect the coolant to each node individually instead of daisy-chaining them so you have the same temp going to (and from) each as opposed to transferring the heat from each section through to the next, and secondly, using a pipe-bending spring that slips over the pipe and prevents any kinks from forming as you bend the pipe to the shape you want. Old-school but it works like a champ.

  • @madforit9661
    @madforit9661 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Said it from the start, your crazy but mad. Take this as a compliment you genius .

  • @CRMcGee2
    @CRMcGee2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a tube bending tip for you.
    Fill the tubes with fine sand.

  • @DevilbyMoonlight
    @DevilbyMoonlight 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting post well done! be careful of having aluminium and copper in your loop at the same time- it will be an issue unless you use a coolant that has inhibitors in it, 1 rule I always follow is to have the pump at the lowest point in the loop with the reservoir always above it, it reduces the risk of pump running dry and killing the pump, also a trick I was shown a long time ago to bend pipes was to fill them with sand 1st to stop them kinking...

  • @brubz__
    @brubz__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    sick intro just found this channel and am already subscribed

  • @michaelgonzalez8863
    @michaelgonzalez8863 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad that you use your super powers for good !

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, one of the automatically generated answers provided by TH-cam is "I try" xD Well, exactly what I was thinking xD

  • @TheMixmastamike1000
    @TheMixmastamike1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤯 So Awesome!!!

  • @twanskys
    @twanskys 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you earn a new subscriber with this sick video, keep it up,

  • @shankswrc3509
    @shankswrc3509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I 'm hopping that in our enclosure design you put the heater element in front of this cooling radiator in order to improve the global efficiency of the whole system by heating air that was already heated by the cooling system.

  • @kclazygaming8543
    @kclazygaming8543 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome!

  • @chrysalis_3d810
    @chrysalis_3d810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome printer.

  • @wilderstewart9917
    @wilderstewart9917 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i cant wait to see what filament/s you choose for the rims. I want to build funtional motorcycle parts. aside from mirrors ect, but stuff like triple trees....

  • @jmtissera
    @jmtissera 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is sick! 😆 very cool man!!!

  • @Clubman-gt
    @Clubman-gt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best thing on TH-cam !!!!

  • @MrMitdac01
    @MrMitdac01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You rock man :D i hope i have many time to build my own alot project like you

  • @CommanDOH-JKU
    @CommanDOH-JKU 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm going down the line of a full water cooling setup, including the stepper motors. but I found some 40x40x12MM blocks that fit perfectly on te back of the Stepper motor back ends with Thermal tape. Making them removable. I'm running an Ender 3 V2 with Sprite direct drive Hot end and The Creality water block for the hot end. Externally I'm running a 240MM radiator and larger lines, reducing them down for the Hot end, but full size for the Steppers. Once I have all the parts gathered up and start assembling I'll put some pics up and post the links out...

  • @ohheyitspaul
    @ohheyitspaul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Just a heads up, it looks like you're mixing metals in this watercooling loop. Long term you're going to have issues with corrosion.

  • @DEtchells
    @DEtchells 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, super-useful video! I’d tried bending some small Al tubing by filling it with low-temp alloy, but had problems bending because it cracked. I like your simple “press-brake-type” tool, am gonna experiment with that approach. (Thanks!!)
    I also wasn’t aware of Dyze Design, but am interested in a high-temp hot end for my eventual (planning stage now) RatRig CoreXY machine. The Dyze stuff looks great, I think I’m going to go with them for the extruder/hotend system. - So tell them that giving you their stuff was indeed very effective marketing! 👍😁

  • @ezequielgentilemontes9721
    @ezequielgentilemontes9721 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you sand blast the interior of the tubes? could that be a cleaner and aluminium dust free channel? put some filter.

  • @TalpaDK
    @TalpaDK 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dark spots in the pipes visible on the xray, was that lead left on the inside of the tube?

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I recon it is. I think it looks worse than it is since X rays have more difficulties traveling through lead. Next time I should use sand like has been mentioned by others