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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- I know Yhorm is not in this! It will be a separate video.
From my knowledge, I believe this is the first ever video that discusses the nature of giants that appear in Dark Souls I and III. I have been a bit out of time the past week due to other commitments, but I hope this video is up to standard.
I still have plans to make vids focusing on Artorias, the Deep, Yhorm and the Profaned Capital, the connection to Sulyvahn, etc etc. Once you delve into Sulyvahn and how he connects to everything, it's easy to get a bit confused. Enjoy! - เกม
Finally someone covering something other than the damn bosses in dark souls lore.
As a Swede, I can say that you are spot on with your history of Umeå and the Birch Trees. That is actually what happened, alltough, the trees were planted after the fire, acting as a "fire gate" or "fire stopper". So the city actually burned down in the fire and when they rebuildt the city, they made the streets wider and planted the trees to stop ev fire, so that this would never happen again. And they chose birch tree because they grow well in city environment and acts as solid fire wood, meaning that they can burn for a long time before turning to ash or spread the fire. Very good pronounciations of swedish words btw!
Thank you!!
Naw I'm pretty sure the giants in Dark Souls 2 are an entirely different species to the ones in 1 and 3. The giants of 1/3 have actual faces are more human looking and they just leave a corpse on death (hell there is even giant skeletons) the ones in two are more like plant creatures.
The giant from Undead Settlement drops Gough's ring and protects white birch trees, who are said to be born from pieces of Dusk's catalyst (I don't remember in which item it says that). Gough and little Dusk were both at Oolacile and the same time. My beliefs are that Dusk and Gough had some type of friedly relationship. I can think on two possibilities:
1. The giant in the Settlement is Gough, protecting the remains of his little friend dusk
2. Gough gave his ring to that giant to protect the trees when he dies.
EDIT: he gave his ring and his bow*
he's probably a descendant of Gough
Interesting
He is the giant blacksmith
@@marvellouschester1269 giant blacksmith is dead dude
Tbh you should've been able to free those Giants and make them friendly towards you
Ikr? Perhaps presenting the branch from the one in the undead settlement to them would make them friendly towards you.
That would imply that there are happy outcomes in souls games. The best you'll ever get is bittersweet; at least they aren't suffering anymore.
@@Raptorman0205 aye, perhaps owning a birch tree sapling would just simply make them not as likely to attack.
To be honest if it was an old fashion rpg and not a souls game then you could probably do that.
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I mean... Just look at it from their perspective.
If I were a giant and got tortured by humans for years, I would NEVER want to be friendly with them.
I just wanted to say that you Mitch L and other DS lore story tellers like you have helped me with my insomnia and have brought me sound to sleep numerous times like a bed time story. keep up the good work!
great video mitch. know what I'll be doing today. chain watching your videos.
What an honour!
Something dikish happens in Anor Lando? Probably Pontiff Sullyvan
TR-8R anor Londo wasn't really a shady place back when it was gywns the only shady thing there was the archives and even then gywn put a barrier so no one could enter to A stop his experiments or B protect him or C both meaning it was an overall good place witch means it probably WAS pontiff
*drops to knees, shaking hands in the air* Sullyvan!
Noice Roice *rain intensifies*
Gorgeous work, dude! In my opinion, your lore content is by far the most complete and interesting in TH-cam. Keep it up!
Wow, that means a lot! The best is yet to come.
Man your dark souls lore videos were great! The new vegas one was also super good and I'm glad you're back ❤️
This video was great: very well presented and well reasoned. I'm glad I found your channel!
Just wanted to say that your videos are brilliant. Very in depth and you back up your theory points really well, as well as considering other ideas. Deserve plenty more subscribers than you have.
Very well put together and edited video! Nice job!
Thank you my dude!
Amazing work here my friend. Keep it up!
Thank you!!! I was looking forward to a Giant video ever since DKS1
Happy to be of service!
+Mitch L anyone ever tell you your profile pic is ugly? with they should have. 😎
+ gaben the great Anyone tell you what awful grammar you have?
i love these videos, very nice man keep it up
Finally! Ive been so curious on the giants this time around.
are you the next Vaati? keep it up, seriously. your video on carthus was also amazing and well researched.
I'll try my best, although that guy has been doing it for years! Let me know if theres any vids in particular that you'd like to see.
I don't understand why your channel is as small as it is, but if you keep making these videos a larger following should be inevitable. I enjoy your lores.
I'll keep pumping them out :D
Really great job man! Keep it up, you deserve more views :D
nice one dude ! keep up the good work
you earned yourself a sub. I'm love Giants most culture and media and I'm glad to see them getting a bit of love in the video.
Glad to have you here!
Awesome stuff dude
Thank you!
Love the focus of the video on giants,i am baffled that noone ever talks about them specifically even tho the size discrepancies are one of the weirdest things in the games since human corpses only carry humanity while giants that seem to have souls as well seem to never have them.
Great video! And I see you're a man of taste. You used three eyed raven cave theme from game of thrones
I really enjoy your videos
"He had a suspicion about human nature but now he knows it is a malevolent and violent force"
But the Silver Knights were Gods as evidenced by the occult weapons
Also if the giants were like Manus, and Manus was a giant, isn't Gough a human?
Just hit 1000 subs! You guys are amazing!!
Keep it up. You got a good thing going here.
1001 with me now.... Good stuff man, really good. Look forward to more.
Just subbed, keep it coming bro!
2000 subs now, keep it up!
man, your cool and all, but the birch trees are grown from the princesses of olacile, the giant protects the trees for some reason or another.
I have been wanting to dive into Giant Lore forever! finally someone takes up the challenge!
I couldn't believe that literally the only vids on giants that had been done were DSII related. Uncharted territory but I'm glad you enjoyed :)
in your next vid were you gonna talk about the campaign to exterminate the demons and the role giants played in that war?
+Brian Lung Yes! Demon Ruins vid is incoming, which will also touch on Cornyx and Pyromancy since he does play a role. I will try to find some time to get it done, probably in the next week or so! Thanks for sticking around.
Nice video!
another great vid
Great video, man! I really enjoyed your take on the Giants, mainly because they're a race that is easy to overlook. The fashion at 14:00 is great btw! My question is this though. Why would Gough retire to Oolacile? It's not really a nice place at the moment. Maybe it was even the residents of Oolacile that put the pine resin in his helmet, after he arrived seeking to aide Artorias. Overall though, I loved the video, thank you for some quality content.
Hey, thanks for your feedback.
I'm not really sure why he is in Oolacile. I'm honestly surprised that they put his bow in DS3 at all (wielded by the tower giant). Giants don't really seem to be that concerned with the first flame/the dark and whatever, since they don't really "die" the same way that humans do. I might have to revisit giants at some point and see if there's anything new to unearth. Thanks again!
Wonderful video
Your opening disclaimer isn't disclaiming anything. I think it would make more sense to either do away with the header or change it. Also, I like how your videos are becoming more and more distinct from other dark souls videos. You have a nice touch. Good content, keep it up.
Hadn't really considered it but you've got a point. Thank you!
3:13
This concept is very similar to that of the Vedic 'Yugas'; a reference more people might recognize and understand, than one tied to Jainism.
I to believe that the giant in the undead settlement is Gough. And by the looks of it, he was enslaved to at some point(you can see the broken chains coming out from his body), but he somehow managed to get free. I don't remember the dialogues at this point very well, but probably he had help from Siegward .
you are amazing im subbed
i really never thought the giants in ds 1 and 3 had much importance just regular enemies or there purpose is to help but thanks to this video i know now they aren't just in the game for any reason and their location as well
35 seconds in and im already interested
Perhaps they like the birch that hides them because they are such nice peaceful, and shy creatures. It is also clearly a gift of friendship, because the undead settlement giant gives you a custom birch tree
The great archer of the undead settlement may be Gough, because the white birch trees were spawned by the dropped staff of young Princess Dusk. the giant will protect you if you have the gifted white branch from the giant (Or the white branch starting item) in your inventory, both of which have special descriptions. Dusk in DS1 was fond and kind to the giant archer Gough (as it is hinted at in gameplay) these two facts in conjunction make pretty good groundwork to say that the giant archer may be Gough or at least a descendant of him. and as Farron is also Darkroot/Oolacil and the archer makes farron considerably more survivable, there is yet another tie.
also side note, Xanthous crown is based of an "Ancient mystic creature." the Oolacil mushroom people were skilled in the arts of magic, and the 'crown' looks like a shroom.
I thought you said at first " I will not be discussing giants from dark souls too much because" threw me off a bit 😄
There's also a birch tree in the farron woods.
GIANT GIANT GIANT UNSTOPABEL
wot rings u got bitch?
Is there any connection between how the drang npc enemies right after Pontiff Sulyvan are found in the area with giants, and how you can find the drang set in the cathedral of the deep where one of the giants is cowering?
Björklöven = Birchleaves
love the video, keep it up! :D
Maybe the magic from those trees (from oolacile too) are the Good emotions within humans, Abyss' magics are the bad emotions within humans, and the blue ones are neutral, reason based sorceries.
Hadn't considered the whole thing about emotions. Makes sense seeing as how the disparity created greed and manipulation.
I thought Gaugh was blind, and that was the reason his helmets eyes were packed w/ tree resin...:p
I totally missed the fact that the pygmee coul be called that way in relation to giants. Is this your theory ? I never saw that before, and i think it's brilliant ! If not, that's still a great video, thank you for your work !
Hawkshaw touched on the possibility in his timeline video in passing, I just took it a few steps further. Thank you!
As a Wildland firefighter I can corroborate the Swedish fire story. Certain trees hold a great volume of water and groups of these trees can inhibit the progress of a wildfire because they do not burn easily. Birch trees are one of these species.
I nearly jumped out of my skin the first time that damn giant actually helped me in the swamp. The big crab came scuttling over, then a great arrow speared him right into the muck. I'd been through Farron a handful of times before this and never seen it happen, but the giant will definitely help you out.
He does that in the swamp too? 🤔
@@silvertemplar8061 as long as you leave one Young White Branch next to one of the trees, yes. Once you collect them all, he dies. But as long as there's one somewhere, he'll shoot that crab if it's near the tree.
Neat video, and pretty insightful. I would point out that calling Silver Knights humans to relate with Gough's cynicism of humans is... a bit of a stretch. They are almost certainly the same species as or related to the same species as Gwyn. Though that does bring some interesting questions as to where humans came into the story and world if they weren't sane before the discovery of the Dark Soul.
Giants were already enslaved in DS1 (see Sen's Fortress). Gough and the blacksmith were the exception to the rule, owing their favorable treatement to their exceptional skills, but even they were spited and looked down upon.
I've always been curious if 'leveling up' is only for humans or if any living thing could do it and if it's the dark soul that allows humans to become eventually stronger than the gods in this setting
I think the species that have a a Link to the Lord Souls can. The way I see it is that Humans (Dark Soul.) Can level up. I think a great example of gaining power from the death, and absorbtion of souls is Ornstein and Smough fight where one gain incrediable strength from absorbing the souls of the other. Another example could be the Abyss Watchers. I think if you took out the 'game mechanic' way of leveling up we would increase our power much the same way. (Note:I am ignoring most of DS2's lore because...its DS2's lore.)
I agreed with the soul part of your comment, and liked it for the disapproval of DS2 X'D
I actually have a theory on this, and its that humans are actually quite bad at it, in every souls game you have to go through someone else, or something else, now of course in dks1 this may simply be game mechanics, but not in 2 and 3, as they require another person, namely a firekeeper, a font of power replicating the original soul of man, meanwhile we have the godly beings like. The nameless king or biggie and smalls who not only gain stature, but power in an instant by "claiming" their allies soul, they don't need to go through anyone, because this is a natural process, and humans can only attempt to emulate it.
@@jacobp.4593 no dont leave out ds2....its canon
i love how you are playing game of thrones music in the video
It fits very well!
*When mitch names your obscure hometown: Happiness noises
Maybe the giant you find where the blacksmith was in the first game was actually Gough, trying to save the blacksmith from the Aldrich followers enslaving the Giants, giving him his bow when he couldn't go on. And the blacksmith escaped, leaving his smithing coal behind. Just a thought.
the feels.
Swede here, you are correct wit h the birch trees in Umeå.
Another fact about birch trees. Yggdrasil, the norse world tree is a birch tree.
13:55 That outfit is really cool.
Damn good explanation
I love that you use GOT soundtrack
Makes me respect Gwyn for being one of the only ones to respect the giants
Small note, in greek culture and myth, Archers are viewed with some prestige. To be an archer was to be a professional soldier or hunter that has mastered the use of a very difficult and important weapon.
That's very interesting! Thanks for pointing it out.
The giant archer in the undead settlement is staring at Lordran😭.
One thing I find interesting is that Yhorm has a face, rather than a hole in his head, implying one of two things: he is not the same species as all the other giants we've seen, OR he is the same species as the DS1 and DS3 giants, but the DS2 giants, the ones who become trees, are a totally unrelated species. I think the latter is probably more accurate, considering that DS2's giants are built differently than the ones in the rest of the series. So I think we're dealing with two distinct species, correlated only by their size.
I really like that fact about Yhorm. My initial thought was that he's one of the "old breed," and has just managed to escape persecution or enslavement, however he is a "descendent of a conqueror" which could be the giant king, who had the big old hole in the face, so it's hard to say.
I personally think that the giant in Undead settlement is actually one of Goughs descendants.
The Giants of Dark Souls III really have it bad now, probably due to the malicious shenanigans of Pontiff Sulyvahn.
To the right of firelink shrien (ds3) you can see a dead ds2 giant with a tree growing out of it
8:44 anyone else notice that his face looks like the statues that look at the ocean? (The 1s where you only see the head n nothing more)
I guess Gough was right, true human nature brought the giants pain, but maybe (assuming gough is the giant in the tower) he saw something in us much like Yhorm saw something in Seigward
quite a bit late to be commenting on the video but it was great. I never got ds1 dlc no one ever seems to mention gough its all about artorias and manus on yt.
You forgot to mention the connection between Dusk and Gough, the undead settlement giant protects the birch trees, just like Gough protected Dusk.
Yhorm was another example of a human honoring a giant. Siegward refers to Yhorm as a friend and upholds his promise with him. I believe Yhorm was the beginning of the mistreatment of giants because humans doubted him. Correct me if i'm wrong.
It's a dark souls video and a English lesson 10/10
Class is now in session :)
Have you ever thought about making a video about the very unique only female giant found in the DS series? Beyond being rare with a female name, her name is also very different than just about every character. Characters usually never have a normal surname, maybe something like a title or location affiliation but never a proper surname like she has. Also her name doesn't sound like it belongs in a game with a medieval theme, it actually sounds modern like she could be your neighbor than a NPC. I definitely would be interested in hearing your thoughts on that, plus any lore interpretations regarding the giant that's named "Judi Cator"
I always was under the impression from all I've read and watched about the souls series that the Giants were actually from another land and imprisoned and brought to work here as slaves by humans. The ones we see without faces are actually golems recreated after the first giants were brought here with magic to work too. Golems usually don't have faces in mythology and i'm pretty sure you can find evidence of them being golems ins some items which I can't remember which ones.
However that doesn't explains much since if you take a look almost EVERY enemy is some kind of giant by themselves, the bosses being the best example. All the knights, the bosses, the demons almost every enemy that are not foot soldiers seems to be of a larger stature. I would love to hear your thoughts about this explaining why everyone seems to be so huge the more powerful they are. I know this could be just a graphic thing to make the beings appear more powerful but I don't find that to be the true since in the Souls series everything is interconnected and not just for the looks. Again, would love to hear some kind of reasoning from yourself on this.
One theory I have is that everyone that is of normal stature is descendant from Pigmy and a normal "human" every other are descendant of the former gods and thus larger. I have no idea how to prove that tho but it's an interesting thought.
I'll definitely see if theres enough to talk about for a video and explore it! What I might do is do a "Lore Cluster" video or something, talking about 2 or 3 parts of lore that don't have much on them, but that I find interesting.
And cool, hope you get to it mate! :)
1:05 legit cannot find a single video on ds2 giants
Damn it, This makes me even more satisfied when I owned Pontiff Sulyvhan by parrying all his moves.
Giant, giant, giant! Become *unstoppable*!
Finally I found some lore on these big fellas. Don't know why they have holes fore faces but...yeah I dunno
When it comes to what you said in Swedish. Your correct. Quite good Swedish as well. :3
in part 1, you say "so where did the giants come from?", but dont actually address it. Or did you later mean to imply that giants and humans are of one race, while the lords are of another? Also, I think you would have done well to include giants from dks2 just to try and get an overall better, more clear picture of giant origin and culture.
Anyway, I don't mean to rag on ya, I just find the concept of race in dark souls both confusing and fascinating. Keep up the good work.
Did anyone else hear game of thrones music?
Galen Lovejoy yeah I was wondering if anyone else heard it
Just realised this comment is 2 years old XD
The way he pronounced Umeå (the Swedish town) makes it sound cooler.
maybe the undead settlement giant is Goth and he has lost speech and changed with age
I would like to make the comment that the Giants of Sens Fortress, of which you showed clips, were also enslaved to guard and maintain the traps there. I would disagree the shift is as drastic as you imply and assert that giants have never been looked on with fondness by humans in the Souls Series. Gough and the Blacksmith are the only two giants who were tolerated by the humans because they provided a service and were presumably protected by Gwyn and his lineage. I do appreciate the amount of work you've put into this video though, some very nice comparisons drawn and lore points examined.
Thank you for your balanced feedback! You're the best kind of commenter.
And that is why, i don't ever link the fire, better off reseting the whole world than let it rot further and further as it drag on.
awesome video. Praise the Souls community.
Praise the fans!
I call the giant in Undead Settlement Hawkeye Brough ;)
He should have his own covenant!
Worth noting that the giants in the cathedral are wallowing in their own filth, and that the original cathedral (place of worship, bema and sanctum) appears to have been built by, and for, giants.
awesome video may I ask what is the music used during the ghough scene sorry idk how to spell his name
I'm away from home at the moment but I'll check it when I'm able to :)
+Mitch L thanks appreciate it c:
+shadowzelot89 doot doot I checked, and I believe it is from the Audiomachine album Decimus
Ok thanks man c:
My God! That blacksmith originally had a face? I know that now he has a mask but I´m pretty sure the face is still cannon.
you forgot about goughs ring the giant of the undead settlement drops
Is there something about tree resin that implies stupidity or brutishness, as he obviously didnt need to see out of the helmet to be effective. It's like giving someone an orange because they arent a good singer. one doesnt relate to the other.
I think they mean "so easily forgothen" as in that the others we're so great, that this soul taker seems insignificant to the others. Thus being easily forgotten
That does sound pretty valid, I mean, I've never heard about the Furtive Pygmy actually 'doing' anything once it got the dark soul, it just got it then buggered off.
Junglerstream Exactly what I'd always assumed.
since you seem to know a lot of lore, do you know why ricard in archdragon peak wears the crown of wolnir?
That's something that I've wondered about but I don't think I have a complete answer on the matter just yet. I'd like to believe that From Soft wasn't being lazy and just decided to re use an asset.
if there is a connection it might tie in with how some people say the time warp thing within the game and ricard is pre-wolnir then once he kills the carthus kings and makes one crown it makes him into a beast sorta like aldrich turning to slime when devouring men
stopped watching around 6:30 after you got info about Hawkeye's helmet wrong, didn't feel like getting misinformed further. The ones who packed his eye holes with resin did so just before he went into battle, and it made him go blind.
LOL. Okay brotha
Could it be that Gough has hollowed to a point in which his speech is impaired?
Through my first play through I never killed a single giant because I thought maybe there was a way to make them friendly like the first giant you meet. Sad to know that they really are hostile. :(