The biggest difference between Indians & Pakistanis is will. Indians had a will to succeed, Indians had a will to get away from the ignominy of going bankrupt and being forced to approach the IMF. India had a system in place for education and population control. Indias had pride in achievements of ancestors and their desired place in the world. Indians knew they had to stand on their own legs and nobody would or could help them do so in the long run. Pakistanis rely on foreign Allah, Anglo & Arabs.
Dr. Hoodbhooy I am from USA always waiting for this intelligent show I am saluting your thoughts for your nation For all the viewers Please post respectfully comments don’t compare with other nations
India not only has IITs but a reasonably good university education system and good feeder system to the universities in the form of good secondary education in high schools (private and govt run schools). India still has a long way to go.
I cannot disagree more. I am from IITD and after spending 20 years in the US tech industry I've realized that that hype about IITs is only due to its selective nature, which is purely a demand supply play due to India's huge population and the pathetic nature of other Indian universities. Secondary education in India has nothing to be proud of, except perhaps a few elitist schools, which might be where the previous commentor comes from. Elitism is a civilizational issue in India, which will guarantee that it will never have the kind of scalable development that's needed to compete in future. What makes US and China so powerful is that they took quality education to the last student in the village, not just create a few elite institutions for a handful people and keep bloating in pride.
India's IITs and University system is pretty much the worst in terms of global rankings. They are a lot better than Pakistan but that's a very low bar.
@@noirdezzir8424 You won my heart brother , this is a sensible ,rational and brilliant brain speaking who hit the nail absolutely on its head. But hidden behind the veil of that ‘elitist structure’ is the millenia old civilizational caste system of graded inequality and indignity of labour , which debarred the vast productive masses( aka the reservation sekking population) from education going to the extent of chopping their heads or thumbs( Ekalavya or Shambuk, although myths even myths are mirrors to some realities) or giving diktats like pouring molten lead into their ears if they learnt Sanskrit. Gautam Buddha was the first person to challenge this, he was a profound political thinker and rationalist. I personally think 75 years are too little to break its shackles. And this structure is all pervasive all over the subcontinent including the apparently eagalitarian Muslim countries of Pakistan or Bangladesh or Buddhist SriLanka , not only India and although there’s a cosmetic veneer of equality in Islam or Sikhism , the followers quickly adhered to the old ways and modes of caste based divides.Revolutionary thinking and policymaking by leaders where they phase out the dubious elitist private English medium and the public government vernacular medium is the first step to equality whereby all learning (specially science and humanities) is done only in English with emphasis on learning the mother tongue vernacular besides important aspects of regional and national culture, this would also be a permanent solution to the black clouds of language wars and the North-South divide that hover menacingly over our skies as a favourable and natural by-product once and for all. English education doesn’t produce Macaulay’s bastards , it creates liberal , rational ,free-thinking humanists!
There might already be quite a number of events happening in India's intellectual circles. Perhaps we don't know that. Since we are interested in our esteemed neighbour, and that too by the famous Hoodbhoy, it gets more views from India.
With Great Respect to u Prof Sir , very erudite discussion .... I have been watching this black hole series with great interest ... one thing shocks me is pitifully low turnout for such classy discussions and the size of the hall , on the other hand kudos to spirit of Prof Hoodbhoy for persevering against indomitable odds ... with regards .
Pakistan is 1/7th the population of India. Vast majority of intellectuals/ engineers have left Pakistan due to the prevailing socioeconomic situation. It’s massive brain drain for obvious and not so obvious reasons. Also you seem to be a thinking person but seems like you are awfully ignorant of the geo/ political situation in the neighborhood. Sorry.
Excellent discussion between 2 great minds on the stage. Disappointed to see that even the small room is not filled up when such distinguished speakers are there. Even after a day, I see the views are only 13K online. Is it because the student community is not aware of "The Black Hole" platform? Thanks to the technology, we are able to watch where ever around the globe. I think one fundamental shift that needs to happen in Pakistan's elementary education system is to delink religion and education. It off course takes a generation to see the change.
May be ; engineering or science colleges in pak need to realize the importance of this discussion. Am sure this discussion will be viewed a million times for young unicorns....
Dr.Hoodhboy, you are gem of a guy. Talks here are for entire humanity. For all Indians out there, respect Nehru and his legacy. It’s who he laid the foundation for modern India. Visionaries like manmohan/PV narasimha rao broke shackles of license Raj ; vajpayee continued the same reforms - finally Modi got all the tools to accelerate. We should be grateful to all such leaders. Wish that Pakistan will also change direction and priorities- Imagine how much more the region will progress. Religion is a mental model only, humanity is one. An intellectual is an intellectual and we need more of them.
Hoodbhouy considers Hinduism at same level as Islam, like primitive and useless and backward religion and thinks Indians making progress only because of them leaving Hinduism. He is a total congress supporter and thinks Muslims are suppressed under Modi rule of Hindutva which is same as jihad.
I m hindu from india. I hated Parvez sir views on india during french social scientist discussion. And that will be my basis of prejudice watching videos. But current video is very imp to software industry professionals all over world n thanks to both of you for that.
Sir extremely informative and thought provoking discussion. I am from India and working in an advertising MNC and currently I was going through "disruptions", personally a lot of things spoken gave me motivation and hope on how to move ahead. Kudos 🙏 🇮🇳
India fierce competitive environment creates a top notch intellectual and with institutions like iit,tifr,iisc,du,jnu,etc they reach the world to expand their boundary of knowledge and achievement.We still have patches of bads in our education system which may improve with time.
Brother u guys must encourage ppl in pakistan to listen to such legends. It'll slowly but gradually usher in perspectives of rationality among d larger populace.
Moore just predicted that thing ,it was correct observation at that time cuz miniaturization was possible at that time , but today we have reached our limit of miniaturization, so I think saturation level has reached to highest point , now any further positive breakthrough in chip miniaturization will be tremendous job
Moore law was number of transistors in IC doubled every 18 months. It was a prediction given by Gordon Moore , not invention, who was one of the founders of intel. I today work for intel. BTW we have now reached the saturation point, hard to shrink the transistors anymore🙂
*UK Home Secretory Suella Braverman said **_“We have a blind spot in the system. It has allowed a community groups to operate under our radar. The political correctness let peaceful community t3rr0rists’ grow. A “highly coordinated” peaceful community network was working in the UK while looking “perfectly respectable” but contained immoderate views under the surface."_*
Guys ( Indian audience) - please enjoy and learn from the discussion rather than being preachy and condescending to Pakistan/people/policies etc. it vitiates atmosphere unnecessarily and humanity loses important knowledge that is being disseminated
Well said. Being an Indian, I agree with you. I am personal fan of Dr Pervez Hoodbouy. Most Pakistanis are much more humble in their behavior and I really appreciate them. Unfortunately the government system or establishment is not conducive for progress of the talent. There are lot of talented and well mannered people in Pakistan. In India, it is very important to teach people about values, ethics and manners apart from technical talent. A well rounded personality is extremely important for global success.
@@perfectionistpersona Humility has been the cornerstone of Success for Indians everywhere by and large. Once they reach somewhere and taste some success one can safely say this at least if not beyond
I am residence of UAE natively from Karachi - Pakistan. I saw the same formula used by Qatar since 2004 for their Doha development, they called all the companies from UAE to establish branch offices in Doha and give work contractors to them to transform Desert into skyscraper city with high-tech facilities same used in Dubai like JLT, JBR Marina, Plam Jumeirah. simply I would say we need an expert hand to hold us and give us work. I am focusing onto IT because it does not require huge capital investment --- an office with 10-computers = 20-Lakhs with office rent of 1-Lakh per month and salary of 100K PKR for 1st year + 10% profit share to employee of 1st year of profit will lead us to work in software and app development. this would lead to open many doors for our BS in computer sciences to utilize......
We have far better than this. You should search & subscribe such channels instead of comedy meme channels. Our Indian Foreign minister, Railway minister as retired IAS officers, just listen them, it will blow your mind. There are many podcast channels who invite successful people. Our English news channels also conduct intellectual conclaves & discussions. Raisina dialogues, G20 meetings discussion. Shark Tank, Ted Talks, Josh Talks, Top University's Fests. You will urself feel like 'The Black Hole' is still living in Stone Age.
I don't think we need them in India at all. We have outgrown. Pakistan is talking about mostly success of Indians in Silicon Valley. We are the heroes while Pakistan is an audience.
@@hawkingdawking4572 what nonsense. You think we are the Taliban operated Pakistan? You still in that Madrassa? No wonder your dumbass is so easy to be manipulated by your Taliban daddies.😂
@@hawkingdawking4572 oh yaara, you guys are eating grass, as proudly proclaimed by one of your many exiled and murdered PMs Bhutto. Samosas kya hote hai pata bhi hai? 😂
Decentralized education is the answer. Build computer cafes in every neighborhood where you can perform all sorts of activities such as watching video lectures, giving proctored exams, perform freelance jobs. Just swipe your QR card and you'll start right where you left. You can also use a smartphone for this. Just borrow a phone from a rich guy, scan qr code, watch video lecture and return the phone to the owner.
@@jang-e-bahadur Yes you are right. I should have respected Indian Muslims' sentiments. I'm sure they've invented a sect where education is haraam. But my comment was targeted at Pakistani Muslims.
I've been based in Silicon Valley for the past 23 years. The questions were great, but I apologize that the presentation/conversation did not effectively draw a picture for the type of audience present. It could have been more finely tuned to the young audience.
Question asked at @1:10 summarizes Pakistan mindset that there is no win-win theory for example if Pakistan trades with India. Pakistan benefits the cheaper prize and India also benefits for accessing the market across the border. However when apply loose-loose theory people selling weapons to both country wins which is 500 old theory
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Agree, mostly PhDs in Aussies and Kiwis unis I see are Indian, Chinese, Iranian, Pakistanis, and others. very very few are local students. its a global problem.
Most of chairs are empty. This type of discussion was part of Indian forums/ discussion before twenty years back. Now new subject discussion may for upgrading current situation of narrative thinking. Indians always in win win situation, as Indian people are more adjustable, reliable, faithful, hardworker....., and so on .
Pakistan should have a good secondary education, good university system and other centers of excellence. I feel bad for some brilliant students who are in Pakistan with no opportunities. Pakistan never had a good government since it's creation and never invested in education and other reforms etc.
I am not sure why Elon Musk gets a bad rap in this discussion. His contributions towards clean energy, whether it be electric cars or solar energy products are nothing short of revolutionary, especially in the sense that electric cars like the Model3 are now mainstream and products like the power wall / solar roof are at the cutting edge of innovation. SpaceX, also, is in many ways a trailblazer in terms of both reducing the cost of space launches and improving capabilities. I think this will benefit humanity ultimately on an immense scale. Having seen many interviews of Elon Musk and hearing him speak I don’t get the impression that he is a capitalist (like say Rockefeller was) at all. He comes across as a person that wants to build world class products that benefit humans on a mass scale. His wealth is a byproduct of his success and helps fund his passions.
Your agenda is perfect. Black whole. We educated the whole world through Takshila. Now we are looking after Chinna etc. forgetting our past because we deviated from our past beliefs including you and I
Pupils in Pakistan are supposed to learn the Koran by heart to pass exams as per previous The Black Hole videos. Isn’t that the fundamental problem of education there???
wtf.. there are few shorts and 2 big chapters of the quran.. basically only to translate the arabic into urdu. I think western philosophy should be taught instead.. even if Pakistan changes curriculum you would not find much skillful people of philosophy and other subjects who have a critical understanding.
Bro look at the number of people for this speaker you will know their priorities. This country will never ever be modern in terms of education and science.
Imagine if all Pakistani children had made available to them the good quality education that both Faruk Ahmad and Pervez Hoodbhoy received at Karachi Grammar School!
Speaker mentioned about community helping each other, it happens only when there is trust between people... problem solving requires building teams & people working together... fractured societies don’t do well... also trust in governments is important... governments can’t change laws at will... firing people is ok when there some alternate social security... rich countries do it & hence are developed countries...
Bpm process flow and oracle policy automation based rules and ITSM based case management application to address problem Pakistan government Functioning.
It wud have been symbolically better if the letters of "Silicon Valley" had started big and gradually become smaller n then start become bigger again, signifying a valley ...
I am saying this because India is proven 5th largest economy and the export of software is aggressive... so if we take this stand to ask our neighbor for HELP definitely they would not refuse.
Dear Dr Pervez Sir, I would say that why dont we do a program strongly suggesting our Prime Minister + COAS to go and meet Mr Modi Jie and start normalizing ties with India..... we shall declare India is NOT enemy to Pakistan nor Pakistan will allow its soil to destabilize India *same demand we are doing to Taliban govt that they shall not allow their soil to use destabilize PK).... by this stance we can open the Doors and ask for the SubContractor works from Indian's IT and lets the door open for IT Software Exports from Pakistan to India under subcon agreement for 5-years.
he's talking about the Silicon Valley, about IT & he doesn't want to mention or acknowledge India's contribution so, we know it's not going to be worth much.
From the comment section, it is pretty much clear that almost all subscribers and frequent viewers are INDIANS 🇮🇳. I am Pakistani 🇵🇰 but our society has become something so weird, so orthodox, so unreasonable that only half are mullahs and the other half are beardless mullahs, who are even more dangerous. India, surely has gone ahead of us almost 70 or 90 years, except the current BJP, which will fade away after Congress retakes the government.
Please don’t reduce India to BJP vs Congress. Vajpayee was BJP and he was the one who reached out for peace with Pakistan. Pakistanis have to stand up to the army and it’s opportunistic politics of hating India. Indians have to stand up to communalism or religious appeasement. Get religion out of governance and politics should be the goal for all. We have much bigger issues and religion doesn’t help
I have found , most hard core engineering roles are taken up by Indians and few others. Hardcore engineering is mostly introvert and thankless job. Other nationalities mostly are comfortable with more extroverted project mgmt role which is equally challenging and rewarding in terms of emotional quotient.
This is called white collar slavery. Obviously white skin people will be holding marketing, travelling, project management etc but coloured skin people will alloted in hardcover engineering jobs
America itself hs $900Billion SW services export. We Indians r earning peanuts of 250Bn, while China exports r $3Trillion, V Indians r 200 years behind china
Dear Professor, for hard sciences you need qualified teachers. We have nothing like that in Pakistan. I don’t know this gentleman went to MIT on a scholarship or not. But then he left hard sciences and went into business consultancy. Nothing wrong with it but that tells you the desi thought process. In the 80’s I know someone who went to MIT on a government scholarship. He did something in robotics ( not so sexy at the time) and came back and was working for a fertilizer factory!
Somebody asked what it will take for Pakistani children to get interested in physics and maths? Well, even if they are interested, how Pakistani physics book defines what is physics? It starte with "Almighty Allah created this universe blah blah blah..." I was shocked when some Pakistani intellectuals mentioned it on Pakistani tv channels and when I googled it was true..
Pakistan ka matalab kya, la ilaha illalah. Allah ek din muajjaja karega. Pakistan ki hukumat dunia par hogi. University kholani band karo, masjid banao, madrase banao, Pancho vaqt ki namaj pado. Iman ko majboot karo. Labbaik labbaik.
No namaz should be compulsory 50 times. 5 times namaz happens in India, if same times in Pakistan then what's the difference? Pakistan should remove all restrictions on Islam and have 50 times namaz daily and it will begin the golden era of Islam again.
@@atulyt2129 You’re Read Islàmíc Books. Originally At The Beginning, Allàh Recommended 50 Times Namaz To Muslíms. But, Later Muhammad Negotiated And It Was Reduced To 5 Times.🤣🤣 Fajr Ki Namaz, Zuhr Ki Namaz, Asar Ki Namaz, Magrib Ki Namaz, Esha Ki Namaz😊
If you teach them critical thinking then they will THINK and if they THINK they will realize Pakistan leaders(Army/Mullah/Elite) are sham and Kashmir problem will resolved by itself and Babar Azar and Kholi will be playing for the same team
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The biggest difference between Indians & Pakistanis is will. Indians had a will to succeed, Indians had a will to get away from the ignominy of going bankrupt and being forced to approach the IMF. India had a system in place for education and population control. Indias had pride in achievements of ancestors and their desired place in the world. Indians knew they had to stand on their own legs and nobody would or could help them do so in the long run. Pakistanis rely on foreign Allah, Anglo & Arabs.
don't worry
india will become pakistan after gazwa-e-hind.
@@FirstLast-fj1yp ...and then you woke up.....hahahaha, now go back to sleep....
Yes, the likes of you, or your ancestors, came and plundered the place till it became threadbare. Perhaps it is time for a repeat?
@@FirstLast-fj1yp that proves Salim's point. Thanks
Dr. Hoodbhooy I am from USA always waiting for this intelligent show I am saluting your thoughts for your nation
For all the viewers
Please post respectfully comments don’t compare with other nations
India not only has IITs but a reasonably good university education system and good feeder system to the universities in the form of good secondary education in high schools (private and govt run schools). India still has a long way to go.
yeah, I don't know why they only talk about IITs. Me and my friends aren't from IIT but work at leading MNCs.
I cannot disagree more. I am from IITD and after spending 20 years in the US tech industry I've realized that that hype about IITs is only due to its selective nature, which is purely a demand supply play due to India's huge population and the pathetic nature of other Indian universities. Secondary education in India has nothing to be proud of, except perhaps a few elitist schools, which might be where the previous commentor comes from. Elitism is a civilizational issue in India, which will guarantee that it will never have the kind of scalable development that's needed to compete in future. What makes US and China so powerful is that they took quality education to the last student in the village, not just create a few elite institutions for a handful people and keep bloating in pride.
India's IITs and University system is pretty much the worst in terms of global rankings.
They are a lot better than Pakistan but that's a very low bar.
Bakwas education system
@@noirdezzir8424 You won my heart brother , this is a sensible ,rational and brilliant brain speaking who hit the nail absolutely on its head. But hidden behind the veil of that ‘elitist structure’ is the millenia old civilizational caste system of graded inequality and indignity of labour , which debarred the vast productive masses( aka the reservation sekking population) from education going to the extent of chopping their heads or thumbs( Ekalavya or Shambuk, although myths even myths are mirrors to some realities) or giving diktats like pouring molten lead into their ears if they learnt Sanskrit. Gautam Buddha was the first person to challenge this, he was a profound political thinker and rationalist. I personally think 75 years are too little to break its shackles. And this structure is all pervasive all over the subcontinent including the apparently eagalitarian Muslim countries of Pakistan or Bangladesh or Buddhist SriLanka , not only India and although there’s a cosmetic veneer of equality in Islam or Sikhism , the followers quickly adhered to the old ways and modes of caste based divides.Revolutionary thinking and policymaking by leaders where they phase out the dubious elitist private English medium and the public government vernacular medium is the first step to equality whereby all learning (specially science and humanities) is done only in English with emphasis on learning the mother tongue vernacular besides important aspects of regional and national culture, this would also be a permanent solution to the black clouds of language wars and the North-South divide that hover menacingly over our skies as a favourable and natural by-product once and for all. English education doesn’t produce Macaulay’s bastards , it creates liberal , rational ,free-thinking humanists!
Mr. Faruq Ahmed and Dr Hoodbhoy are so excellent!
Thank you Dr.Hoodbhoy! Glad your sessions are accessible through social media. Hope someday that we can host the Black Hole in Chennai India.
@Prophet-thePedophile Yaar uski marzi usko kya karna hai, waise bhi Pakistan ka visa easily nai milta
@@akshay_wakodikarhe isn't forcing, it was a suggestion. He can live with peace and prosperity in pakistan
There might already be quite a number of events happening in India's intellectual circles. Perhaps we don't know that. Since we are interested in our esteemed neighbour, and that too by the famous Hoodbhoy, it gets more views from India.
With Great Respect to u Prof Sir , very erudite discussion .... I have been watching this black hole series with great interest ... one thing shocks me is pitifully low turnout for such classy discussions and the size of the hall , on the other hand kudos to spirit of Prof Hoodbhoy for persevering against indomitable odds ... with regards .
Pakistan is 1/7th the population of India. Vast majority of intellectuals/ engineers have left Pakistan due to the prevailing socioeconomic situation. It’s massive brain drain for obvious and not so obvious reasons. Also you seem to be a thinking person but seems like you are awfully ignorant of the geo/ political situation in the neighborhood. Sorry.
Was thinking the same thing. Thus would have been packed in India
@@youtubewatcherdesi ? Munir nation. Are you serious?
@@asad-kc8zf he is right. Even if you see the comments most of them are Indians and we would love to listen such brains.
@@sangramsingh7747 he is referring to his name ig
Superb talk by Sri. Faruq Ahmad ji! Loved every bit of this session 👍👌🙏
Excellent discussion between 2 great minds on the stage. Disappointed to see that even the small room is not filled up when such distinguished speakers are there. Even after a day, I see the views are only 13K online. Is it because the student community is not aware of "The Black Hole" platform? Thanks to the technology, we are able to watch where ever around the globe.
I think one fundamental shift that needs to happen in Pakistan's elementary education system is to delink religion and education. It off course takes a generation to see the change.
Money or Assessts when distributed get reduced but if Knowledge is shared, it grows.
There is saying like this in Sanskrit also.
Wonderful discussion. Learnt a lot, thanks to all involved.
Very wise discussion between two mature personalities.
May be ; engineering or science colleges in pak need to realize the importance of this discussion. Am sure this discussion will be viewed a million times for young unicorns....
Excellent discussion and thanks for improving our knowledge especially the topic on the asset building in brain power
To listen such Legends is a pride and we can judge the level of people of Pakistan by the less participation of such program.
Excellent topic, very very knowledgable speaker. Lot of things can be learnt from this discussion. Black hole is a good platform
To all my fellow Indian Please be polite in the comment it's the one of the main traits of success.Thankyou
Ok
can we make an exception for pakistani's please.
Dr.Hoodhboy, you are gem of a guy. Talks here are for entire humanity. For all Indians out there, respect Nehru and his legacy. It’s who he laid the foundation for modern India. Visionaries like manmohan/PV narasimha rao broke shackles of license Raj ; vajpayee continued the same reforms - finally Modi got all the tools to accelerate. We should be grateful to all such leaders. Wish that Pakistan will also change direction and priorities- Imagine how much more the region will progress. Religion is a mental model only, humanity is one. An intellectual is an intellectual and we need more of them.
Hoodbhouy considers Hinduism at same level as Islam, like primitive and useless and backward religion and thinks Indians making progress only because of them leaving Hinduism. He is a total congress supporter and thinks Muslims are suppressed under Modi rule of Hindutva which is same as jihad.
Very informative and productive forum .Dr.prevaiz sir , please also invite Dr.shahid hussain bokhari
I m hindu from india. I hated Parvez sir views on india during french social scientist discussion. And that will be my basis of prejudice watching videos. But current video is very imp to software industry professionals all over world n thanks to both of you for that.
Sir extremely informative and thought provoking discussion.
I am from India and working in an advertising MNC and currently I was going through "disruptions", personally a lot of things spoken gave me motivation and hope on how to move ahead. Kudos 🙏 🇮🇳
India fierce competitive environment creates a top notch intellectual and with institutions like iit,tifr,iisc,du,jnu,etc they reach the world to expand their boundary of knowledge and achievement.We still have patches of bads in our education system which may improve with time.
It's a very good discussion.... Thanks for sharing..
Dr. Hoodbhoy, please arrange such sessions under the umbrella of Black Hole at Karachi and Lahore as well.
Nhi. Khatra Nhi Le Skte. Tum Log Pervez Sír Ko Kaafír Bol Kr Maar Daloge.
Lahore Is An Epicentre Of Extrèmíśm Of Entírè Wòrld.
Brother u guys must encourage ppl in pakistan to listen to such legends. It'll slowly but gradually usher in perspectives of rationality among d larger populace.
@@awanishsingh3459 they have 99.99999% jihadis with strong Hindu hatred
Love all Dr Hoodbhoy podcasts …lots of learning as depicts India C problems
Sorry to see the room not full! But Pak has hope as long as people like the ones in room here care about Pak. Good wishes from India ❤
Moore just predicted that thing ,it was correct observation at that time cuz miniaturization was possible at that time , but today we have reached our limit of miniaturization, so I think saturation level has reached to highest point , now any further positive breakthrough in chip miniaturization will be tremendous job
Nano electronics
Such a great guest in this forum and yet so many are busy on their cell phones. There is no hope for Pakistan.
Wonderful session !!!
Moore law was number of transistors in IC doubled every 18 months. It was a prediction given by Gordon Moore , not invention, who was one of the founders of intel. I today work for intel. BTW we have now reached the saturation point, hard to shrink the transistors anymore🙂
Not a tech guy but that’s what I thought so too. Can’t squeeze the poor electron anymore, now what! Graphene ?
@@asad-kc8zf parallelism and multi core technology
How did you end up working for Intel?
Bengaluru has the largest Intel R&D centre outside silicon valley
Blackhole is providing good speakers very insightful.
Fundamental Science is fundamental to success.
Brilliant Guest !
Love from India ( supporter of BJP )
Good conversation and insights.
Dr sahib love your sane views.
First I thought BH is on Pakistan only. But wonderful having International standard discussion. Many thanks.
*UK Home Secretory Suella Braverman said **_“We have a blind spot in the system. It has allowed a community groups to operate under our radar. The political correctness let peaceful community t3rr0rists’ grow. A “highly coordinated” peaceful community network was working in the UK while looking “perfectly respectable” but contained immoderate views under the surface."_*
Apparently you are hinting something to all, here?
Guys ( Indian audience) - please enjoy and learn from the discussion rather than being preachy and condescending to Pakistan/people/policies etc. it vitiates atmosphere unnecessarily and humanity loses important knowledge that is being disseminated
Well said (a fellow Indian)
Sahi kaha ...lekin phir modi ji ke sabd he" maza nehi aata"...isiliye thoda Jalil karna toh Banta he😄😄💯
Well said. Being an Indian, I agree with you. I am personal fan of Dr Pervez Hoodbouy. Most Pakistanis are much more humble in their behavior and I really appreciate them. Unfortunately the government system or establishment is not conducive for progress of the talent. There are lot of talented and well mannered people in Pakistan. In India, it is very important to teach people about values, ethics and manners apart from technical talent. A well rounded personality is extremely important for global success.
@@perfectionistpersona Humility has been the cornerstone of Success for Indians everywhere by and large. Once they reach somewhere and taste some success one can safely say this at least if not beyond
But for millions these 2 will get jahannum
Love for All Indian and Pakistani brothers..
I am residence of UAE natively from Karachi - Pakistan. I saw the same formula used by Qatar since 2004 for their Doha development, they called all the companies from UAE to establish branch offices in Doha and give work contractors to them to transform Desert into skyscraper city with high-tech facilities same used in Dubai like JLT, JBR Marina, Plam Jumeirah. simply I would say we need an expert hand to hold us and give us work. I am focusing onto IT because it does not require huge capital investment --- an office with 10-computers = 20-Lakhs with office rent of 1-Lakh per month and salary of 100K PKR for 1st year + 10% profit share to employee of 1st year of profit will lead us to work in software and app development. this would lead to open many doors for our BS in computer sciences to utilize......
Great fan of Parveez hoodboy..
Wonderful. !!
Faruq is literally saying, yaar hum bhi to Indian hai, if they can succeed so can we.
If that’s what he thinks then he is not so intellectual or rather doesn’t understand our societies
pakistanis have corrupted their DNA by cousin marriages. we rnt the same anymore.
Good Discussion
Very much educative
Please make such show in India also i🇮🇳 we love your knowledge
We have far better than this. You should search & subscribe such channels instead of comedy meme channels. Our Indian Foreign minister, Railway minister as retired IAS officers, just listen them, it will blow your mind. There are many podcast channels who invite successful people. Our English news channels also conduct intellectual conclaves & discussions. Raisina dialogues, G20 meetings discussion. Shark Tank, Ted Talks, Josh Talks, Top University's Fests. You will urself feel like 'The Black Hole' is still living in Stone Age.
Many shoes in India in college ye to hota hi rehta he
@@nishanttyagi29 👞 Shoes or Shows
I don't think we need them in India at all. We have outgrown. Pakistan is talking about mostly success of Indians in Silicon Valley. We are the heroes while Pakistan is an audience.
@@blackrockorange : being humble and grounded is first traits of greatness!!
Excellent... Discussion.. 🙏..Surprised to see so low turnout...!!?
Good discussion
I see confusion and awe at the same time in the audience. this gentleman were in India, a crowd of 500 under 25 were gathered
No. He shall be arrested by police for insulting the state religion imposed called Hindusim.
@@hawkingdawking4572 Mai Yahi Hu. Yaad Hai Na Last Time Kaise Bhaga Tha Tu.😂😂😂😂😂
Arabo Se Juttèy Kha Kr Convèrt Ho Kr Musàlmàn Ban Gya🤣🤣🤣🤣Hahaha
@@KararaJawaab from samosa to language, you are arabised. You have no religion to claim for.
@@hawkingdawking4572 what nonsense. You think we are the Taliban operated Pakistan? You still in that Madrassa? No wonder your dumbass is so easy to be manipulated by your Taliban daddies.😂
@@hawkingdawking4572 oh yaara, you guys are eating grass, as proudly proclaimed by one of your many exiled and murdered PMs Bhutto. Samosas kya hote hai pata bhi hai? 😂
Decentralized education is the answer. Build computer cafes in every neighborhood where you can perform all sorts of activities such as watching video lectures, giving proctored exams, perform freelance jobs. Just swipe your QR card and you'll start right where you left. You can also use a smartphone for this. Just borrow a phone from a rich guy, scan qr code, watch video lecture and return the phone to the owner.
@@jang-e-bahadur Yes you are right. I should have respected Indian Muslims' sentiments. I'm sure they've invented a sect where education is haraam. But my comment was targeted at Pakistani Muslims.
good evening. from Hyderabad India
Pakistan has hydrabad too.
@@tumblevid Pakistan has Gujrat district while India has Gujarat state.
@@IndiaTides i am indian
Hyderabad deccan.which is in Indian state of Telangana.sindh hyderabad is in pakistan.
Pappistan calling.. pls leave immediately
I've been based in Silicon Valley for the past 23 years. The questions were great, but I apologize that the presentation/conversation did not effectively draw a picture for the type of audience present. It could have been more finely tuned to the young audience.
Question asked at @1:10 summarizes Pakistan mindset that there is no win-win theory for example if Pakistan trades with India. Pakistan benefits the cheaper prize and India also benefits for accessing the market across the border. However when apply loose-loose theory people selling weapons to both country wins which is 500 old theory
This guy is Brilliant 👏👏
I have complaint against the black hole. I have saved the video on John Eliya uploaded recently to Watch later. But i cant find it now. I just seen a small cut of it. It was great conversation. Please reload it again. Is Black Hole is threatened due to that program???. Please upload it again or inform about its where about and reasons to delete it. If there is security problem, can you please provide link privately.
Thank you
Great discussion
No God. No religion. This is TRUTH 👍🌅💗
Agree, mostly PhDs in Aussies and Kiwis unis I see are Indian, Chinese, Iranian, Pakistanis, and others. very very few are local students. its a global problem.
Most of chairs are empty. This type of discussion was part of Indian forums/ discussion before twenty years back.
Now new subject discussion may for upgrading current situation of narrative thinking.
Indians always in win win situation, as Indian people are more adjustable, reliable, faithful, hardworker....., and so on .
We are having more technical discussion on our shows like shark tank.
Pakistan should have a good secondary education, good university system and other centers of excellence. I feel bad for some brilliant students who are in Pakistan with no opportunities. Pakistan never had a good government since it's creation and never invested in education and other reforms etc.
I am not sure why Elon Musk gets a bad rap in this discussion. His contributions towards clean energy, whether it be electric cars or solar energy products are nothing short of revolutionary, especially in the sense that electric cars like the Model3 are now mainstream and products like the power wall / solar roof are at the cutting edge of innovation. SpaceX, also, is in many ways a trailblazer in terms of both reducing the cost of space launches and improving capabilities. I think this will benefit humanity ultimately on an immense scale. Having seen many interviews of Elon Musk and hearing him speak I don’t get the impression that he is a capitalist (like say Rockefeller was) at all. He comes across as a person that wants to build world class products that benefit humans on a mass scale. His wealth is a byproduct of his success and helps fund his passions.
Your agenda is perfect. Black whole. We educated the whole world through Takshila. Now we are looking after Chinna etc. forgetting our past because we deviated from our past beliefs including you and I
Pupils in Pakistan are supposed to learn the Koran by heart to pass exams as per previous The Black Hole videos. Isn’t that the fundamental problem of education there???
wtf.. there are few shorts and 2 big chapters of the quran..
basically only to translate the arabic into urdu.
I think western philosophy should be taught instead..
even if Pakistan changes curriculum you would not find much skillful people of philosophy and other subjects who have a critical understanding.
Bro look at the number of people for this speaker you will know their priorities. This country will never ever be modern in terms of education and science.
R u sure?? even in field of science and commerce????
@@AA13494 yes
Imagine if all Pakistani children had made available to them the good quality education that both Faruk Ahmad and Pervez Hoodbhoy received at Karachi Grammar School!
Speaker mentioned about community helping each other, it happens only when there is trust between people... problem solving requires building teams & people working together... fractured societies don’t do well... also trust in governments is important... governments can’t change laws at will... firing people is ok when there some alternate social security... rich countries do it & hence are developed countries...
Pakistan has not even signed up for PCT and how would world invest in Pakistan without IP
@7:30 when he mentioned about divers religion (Jews,Hindus) cameraman focused on a girl seems to be HIndu (bindi on forehead) good job
She will be kidnapped soon I fear. The mullah is just beside her
Bpm process flow and oracle policy automation based rules and ITSM based case management application to address problem Pakistan government Functioning.
No of subscription to this channel and large audience 😅 show, how much Pakistanis are interested in change.
It wud have been symbolically better if the letters of "Silicon Valley" had started big and gradually become smaller n then start become bigger again, signifying a valley ...
16 minutes and the guy is still talking about his accomplishments.... and not letting Dr Hoodbhoy ask questions
Great discussion ! Disappointed at poor attendance. I feel sorry for Pfof Pervez, wasted talent in Pakistan
On top of investing in startups, why don’t you do some investment in basic and higher education? That would be better for your legacy.
I am saying this because India is proven 5th largest economy and the export of software is aggressive... so if we take this stand to ask our neighbor for HELP definitely they would not refuse.
It is very wiseful discussion but presence of learners in class is disappointing.
Man is part of brain chain .good good.
why there are not many people in the room??
Namaaz time
Dear Dr Pervez Sir, I would say that why dont we do a program strongly suggesting our Prime Minister + COAS to go and meet Mr Modi Jie and start normalizing ties with India..... we shall declare India is NOT enemy to Pakistan nor Pakistan will allow its soil to destabilize India *same demand we are doing to Taliban govt that they shall not allow their soil to use destabilize PK).... by this stance we can open the Doors and ask for the SubContractor works from Indian's IT and lets the door open for IT Software Exports from Pakistan to India under subcon agreement for 5-years.
All said and then looking at the audience I am not too sure they even understand English apart from a few
Good discussion but. Sir. You. Skip the India's great achievement in IT Sector . SMART 😂😂
Plz plz plz plz plz invite dr. pervesh shaheen on pakhtun culture and history ,language .He wrote 67 books .
Har Video Me Tu Yahi Likhta Hai🤣🤣
@@KararaJawaab ye apkay liay likhta hon
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Of all the people Dr sb thinks in black and white. 😊Twitter is more of a political issue rather than technical.
Barring some American accent, it's a shallow discussion, nothing much to take home, for me! 😩
he's talking about the Silicon Valley, about IT & he doesn't want to mention or acknowledge India's contribution so, we know it's not going to be worth much.
Everything is in technology.... Which people in Pak did never realise....
Answer to the young man’s question… money, greed etc for most of the time.
Awesome 👍👍
I hardly see any comments from Pakistanis as mostly they r interested in Islamic religious discourse .
Pervez sir want to skip the Indian greatness and popularity in education
he would have touted all the great mullas
He hates Hinduism and thinks it is lowly compared to islam
From the comment section, it is pretty much clear that almost all subscribers and frequent viewers are INDIANS 🇮🇳. I am Pakistani 🇵🇰 but our society has become something so weird, so orthodox, so unreasonable that only half are mullahs and the other half are beardless mullahs, who are even more dangerous. India, surely has gone ahead of us almost 70 or 90 years, except the current BJP, which will fade away after Congress retakes the government.
Haha atleast 20 years no congress is coming black British shit party
Please don’t reduce India to BJP vs Congress. Vajpayee was BJP and he was the one who reached out for peace with Pakistan. Pakistanis have to stand up to the army and it’s opportunistic politics of hating India. Indians have to stand up to communalism or religious appeasement. Get religion out of governance and politics should be the goal for all. We have much bigger issues and religion doesn’t help
Has anyone heard about moore's law? No one from audience 😉🧐🧐🤓🤓
I have found , most hard core engineering roles are taken up by Indians and few others. Hardcore engineering is mostly introvert and thankless job. Other nationalities mostly are comfortable with more extroverted project mgmt role which is equally challenging and rewarding in terms of emotional quotient.
This is called white collar slavery. Obviously white skin people will be holding marketing, travelling, project management etc but coloured skin people will alloted in hardcover engineering jobs
less than 20 people listening to 2 intellectuals. if there were 2 mullas or jihadis there would be 20 thousand
That is so true. That is where the real foundational issue lies.
Interesting. Can pakistan learn from india and China's experience with its baggage in terrorists incubation
America itself hs $900Billion SW services export. We Indians r earning peanuts of 250Bn, while China exports r $3Trillion, V Indians r 200 years behind china
Dear Professor, for hard sciences you need qualified teachers. We have nothing like that in Pakistan. I don’t know this gentleman went to MIT on a scholarship or not. But then he left hard sciences and went into business consultancy. Nothing wrong with it but that tells you the desi thought process. In the 80’s I know someone who went to MIT on a government scholarship. He did something in robotics ( not so sexy at the time) and came back and was working for a fertilizer factory!
Somebody asked what it will take for Pakistani children to get interested in physics and maths?
Well, even if they are interested, how Pakistani physics book defines what is physics? It starte with "Almighty Allah created this universe blah blah blah..."
I was shocked when some Pakistani intellectuals mentioned it on Pakistani tv channels and when I googled it was true..
exactly 15 people in the session listening to innovation in silicon valley. it is so shameful shows mindset of Pakistani youth & youthiya
That's the catering staff my dear...🙄
Pakistan ka matalab kya, la ilaha illalah. Allah ek din muajjaja karega. Pakistan ki hukumat dunia par hogi. University kholani band karo, masjid banao, madrase banao, Pancho vaqt ki namaj pado. Iman ko majboot karo. Labbaik labbaik.
Mai Es Kaam K Liye Donatíon Dene Ko Taiyar Hu🤣🤣
No namaz should be compulsory 50 times.
5 times namaz happens in India, if same times in Pakistan then what's the difference?
Pakistan should remove all restrictions on Islam and have 50 times namaz daily and it will begin the golden era of Islam again.
@@atulyt2129 You’re Read Islàmíc Books. Originally At The Beginning, Allàh Recommended 50 Times Namaz To Muslíms.
But, Later Muhammad Negotiated And It Was Reduced To 5 Times.🤣🤣
Fajr Ki Namaz,
Zuhr Ki Namaz,
Asar Ki Namaz,
Magrib Ki Namaz,
Esha Ki Namaz😊
If you teach them critical thinking then they will THINK and if they THINK they will realize Pakistan leaders(Army/Mullah/Elite) are sham and Kashmir problem will resolved by itself and Babar Azar and Kholi will be playing for the same team
Pakistan should concentrate on doing what it is best. Yes.....yeeesss....you guessed it right 😂
You should concentrate on finding more shiva penis.
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