I want to say that I really appreciate the fact that you made this video. Tbh i was originally VERY salty towards you because of the things in your birdie video that were private, but i see you learned from what you did and I wanna thank you for clearing it up. I'm trying really hard to move on from my own wrongdoings and do better from now on. I also wanna be clear on one thing, its not important but it is important to me, i am no longer friends with Birdie, since my video came out i have not spoken to her, I dont want people to still think I'm still being influenced by her. that is all i want to say. Thank you again 💓 💖 💗 💛 💕
Then why tf did you have to bring up her drama? That shit sucks and has to be uncomfortable to be held over her head. I’ve watched through the whole video and it could’ve done without the example of her to talk about black and white thinking.
This is a personal pet peeve of mine but I hate it when people are treated like monsters after slipping up Especially if they’re minors Like, just because they have a platform doesnt mean you are suddenly a god Idolization is so confusing and dumb tbh
@@znvorz Exactly, synni is still just a child and is learning from all of this, we all make mistakes, we all need guidance as well, the internet was just way too quick to attack her. And frankly thats really heartbreaking.
@@kiwo7149 i am so glad i wasn't given a large platform back when i was a teen, i did so many awful things back then that i feel ashamed and disgusted about. i don't think younger me would have been able to cope and deal with the hate and constant eyes watching every little thing i do. even now as someone who just turned 21, i still don't want to be popular or have a huge platform. i still do a lot of dumb things
its not hard to not suck and be racist and shit though, like....thats it. it isnt difficult at all and being a minor isnt an excuse when you have literally the ENTIRE internet in your hands. attacking her isnt okay at all though. no buts.
@@sakuraogami6885 But think about it, this is a minor with a huge platform. When you're placed into this kind of environment, especially the internet, things are bound to happen, we all make mistakes and synni is recieving help as well so we should be encouraging now more than ever. Especially after what she went through. Saying that it “isn’t hard to not suck” is oversimplifying the entire situation, and im not trying to say being a minor is an excuse, im saying its something that should be taken in consideration because at the end of the day synni still is a child, and because of that we shouldn’t be as harsh
Yes she does have a problem, and the witchunt isn't helping. I had never even heard of this person before and God had to call me into this mess because of it.
@Jellyfish-h6q Honestly , she threw everything out the window doing this. All that talk about becoming a better person after she got a therapist smh and I know all this is from her mental issues so she KNEW it was f**** ig She'll never see people as people but Npcs.
Honestly so proud of you, you always try to look into things with a clear head and go to far lengths to apologise for any wrong doings. You pick apart the major holes the community that everyone tries to avoid. It's super brave of you. I wish there was more people like you who actually gave a shit and aren't just in it for clout. Great video as always stream! Have a sloth 🦥
We've created an environment in which nobody can make mistakes and everybody has to be perfect Once you fuck up once, that's it. you're done. you're canceled It's so toxic and terrifying to have to navigate I'm not saying groomers and abusers shouldn't have consequences for their actions but people get canceled over things that aren't even a big deal How can people become better people if they're not allowed to learn from their mistakes?
It is a shame that quite often "cutesy" characters are bashed for being in horrible or taboo situations because "they are too cute so this is glorifying it", like, no; this is an issue not only online but in real life. Many abusers and even killers may be charming or cute but that doesn't mean they aren't capable of horrid actions. I am not a viewer of synnibear03, but I have seen clips of her abusive character and I think she did a fine job with it (from what I have seen). I actually think it is a good idea to show how anyone can be awful, not to trust anyone solely on appearance, "don't judge a book by its cover" sort of thing. The things attractive/cute people can get away with is evil, so I see her character as more of an awareness rather than glorifying the subjects, this could just be me though since I don't watch her and don't have an entire grasp on how she portrays it.
Yeah it's not glorifying or romanticing abuse but more of a representation of it. In her videos the abuser is represented as a monster rather than a cute uwu owo quirky character.
this same stuff happens on TikTok with ppl who draw cute characters in gory situations being bashed and saying that it romanticizes it, when it doesn't. also ive seen this happen with Melanie Martinez music
Reminds me of a similar situation with Admiral Ackbar, believe it or not. The crew of Star Wars: Return of the Jedi mocked Ackbar and said he was "too ugly" to be a good guy. Richard Marquand (the director of the movie) said "I think it's good to tell kids that good people aren't necessarily good looking people and that bad people aren't necessarily ugly people." he refused to change the design, and gave us the Ackbar we all know and love today. *"IT'S A TRAP!"*
*Guys. Streamline isn’t trying to revive the drama. She’s just reviewing it and telling us and younger kids how to do better. Stop saying she’s trying to bring it back. She even makes a claim saying not to harass anyone mentioned. If she can do the same for Birdie (who hasn’t improved) then why can’t she do it for Synni? (Who has improved as far as I’m aware)* Edit: *my god if Synni was uncomfortable she would/will say something about this video being made. Stop putting words into her mouth I’m sure she’s dealt with that a lot already.* Edit 2: well shit, Stream said she *DID* get permission…so s h u t. Though I don’t agree with a lot of things said/shown in the video, can we stop with the stupid comments
@@tidepodpadthai2633 she has improved. She doesn’t talk to/draw birdie anymore, she doesn’t say slurs anymore and respects the minorities she hurt, she adds proper trigger warnings and depicts a**se in a respectful manor and she has said sorry to her ex and winter gutz and also Charlie. :/ she’s also going to therapy so idk why you want the drama to drag on….
Honestly, the blame should be on the parents. Nowadays our parents give out the gadgets to extremely young impressionable 6 to 14 years old (even younger than that..) to let internet babysit them where predators and any bad influence can manifest to their own lives. Parents need to consult and monitor their gadgets. What in the hell just happen with our generation nowadays?
@@moonspiritleaf12 To be fair tho, yes. It's for their own well being. Something like Birdie, Synnibear and other people involve in this "drama" (NO, this is not a drama anymore, its straight off committing crime!) have been affected and the damage has been done. Honestly i am ok with people holding minor's accountability but the blame and harsher accountability must be on Parents, too. Birdie and the people involve there to commit heinous crime like this? Needs to get some serious help. If their parents can't take care of them then they should've done something else than letting it happen to them Idk, that's just me. I wanted to say that why we have to blame on minors where parents are the main core of their lives? They should be the one to be blamed on.
@@hollabackcatto6701 Yeah, honestly. Why blame the minors when it’s their parents fault for giving them a technical device at a young age? Let’s just try and keep new minors out of other people’s business and out of stuff that isn’t for them.
About that argument of "if you draw this serious theme and add cutesy stuff, then you're romanticizing it" makes me mad like, if I take that logic of yours then I can say that Japan does it just for the fact that they portray serious themes with cutesy stuff when in reality, it's not that. In Japan the topic of mental health is very taboo and with doing that they are spreading awarenesses about it, Jesus Christ I can't believe that argument still exists. Makes me feel ashamed of drawing creepy cute stuff :( I hope the internet learns this time (although I doubt it) about not thinking in black and white, hearing all sides of the story and for the love of God creepy cute stuff exists and if that's not your cup of tea that's okay! But please don't start drama.
agreed 1000%. people who argue art with dark themes made to look cutesy are only reading that art literally, forgetting that art has different interpretations
This! Like if I’ve got a cutesy art style and I want to portray darker themes with my artwork, does that mean I have to change my art style?? Like lmfao where is the logic here
For everyone saying Streamline is trying to "revive drama" if you could actually watch the full video, she has tried to review what Synni did and how others react and not giving her a chance to apologize for herself because it took months for Synni to make a video, yet people were being toxic behind her back in progress of making her video. No offense, but it's very embarrassing and pathetic how people are arguing over the comment section instead of watching the video. She explains in full details of what went wrong and going over each sections. Please stop saying Streamline is trying to throw more fire into the drama, she puts an end to it and that's all, never on purpose. Overall, I love this video and I agree with you and most of your points on this drama that had happened! I am happy you were brave to explain it all very well! Take care of yourself Streamline!
Yes! And they’re saying “Synni doesn’t want the drama revived!” Which is just putting words into her mouth..it’s disgusting and hypocritical. We should wait and see if Synni likes it or not.
3:29 - 3:36 Didn't Synni during that entire time of her understanding, scripting, then recording her video, while having a job, school, and I'm sure the mental issues that came with the drama, post on her community that she was working on it but to be patient? I swore I saw like three posts of her saying that-
There was a point you brought up, and I very much agree with it. yes believe it or not bi ppl can make bi phobic comments. just bc ppl a person is bi doesn't mean they can be biphobic. blair white is a noticeable example of this. even though shes trans she still makes transphobic comments at other trans people.
aged like milk, but im still glad this was made at the time (quick edit here! OH MY GOD. OH MY. OH MY GOODNESS! WOW. I DIDNT NEED TO SEE THAT ART AND THOSE MESSAGES!!)
hi streamline! this isnt a hate comment by any means but i just want to understand why my video lumped with all the other videos made on synni? ( 3:22 ) i wasnt even being like "grr synni should apologize faster grr" and i didnt want to "tear synni down". i made my original video because i felt as some of things used against synni were over exaggerated, nor did i want "synni to rush out a bad video", in fact i genuinely wanted to hear what synni had to say. my intention while making my video was to give synni the benefit of the doubt and to put some water over the fire that was this situation. im sorry if you misinterpreted what i was trying to say or what my motives were while watching the video, that is my fault as a content creator and mines alone. im still pretty new to commentary and trying to get better but i never had any ill intent against synni while making my video.
@@taigawc no but it's bad timing lol we talking about something serious and people are being immature and not professional. The art is not the point of the video
Daydreaming is a form of escape just so yall know so I can understand why synni has a "vent world" and i can understand how that world changed her thoughts on Birdie cause that happened to me when I was in a relationship it wasn't fun and I hurt myself even if he was a manipulative little shit I hurt myself a lot cause I thought he was the best thing I'd ever get Daydream all you like just try not to get trapped you can do more harm then good for others and yourself
As a 14 year old myself, I honestly had the same view through the drama. Well mostly with the romanticizing r@pe and how ridiculous it was that people called Synni a predator to lgbtq women. Even hearing it from Dreamurr’s video I sort of went, “I’m sorry?” But yes, I can see your point of how people are so quick to believe that certain people can do no wrong and when they do it’s the end of the fucking world. But kids should know that not everyone in life is perfect and will never be perfect. Especially sense MOST drama in the animation meme community is just KIDS. Kids do stupid shit and they learn. It’s going to happen and having a TH-cam channel with a big audience like Synni and birdie must be terrifying because all eyes are on them. And it’s hard when stuff gets leaked and doxxed with a blink of an eye.
Yeah if they learn their mistakes like synni did things will turn out right but then some times they don't like birdie and the issue will grow and grow.
It’s crazy to even think, but for those not aware, Birdie has left the internet and supposedly going to therapy, improving tenfold. He was a in a very toxic environment and left so now he actually is getting better. Whether he comes back to the internet or not, I hope this is true and that Birdie is in fact changing. I have a little doubt but I’m rooting for him.
Also for some people, dreamur and synni have apologized for their mistakes already( I can link the videos!!), this video isn't stream saying either party is a horrible person, basically just analyzing. Both have owned up to faults
he is actually bigender so she/he, not just she/her. also sorry i dont mean to annoying about this but a lot of bigender get mistaken as cis cuz they still partly still identify with there birth gender.
@@k1-b0keebo66 no streamline needs to use she/he pronouns it’s disrespectful to just use she/her pronouns when they use both she/her and he/him they need to alternate
hey have you seen that birdie (or jack) uploaded like,an update video?i have yet to see someone in the commentary community talk about it.from what i seen he was explaining some dramas and all and i think he is changing and doing better?but yeah
Now, the thing with minors interacting with adult content or games. You used the Your Boyfriend game as an example correct? The adults who have played and interacted with the games make content, memes, and art about the main character which gets people who haven’t interacted with the fandom or game curious. Curiosity is a very strong thing, people will do anything to get information which is why I THINK many minors interact with adult content, they just want to know about it and get caught up in a bad way.
the website were you have to download the game specifically says it´s a EROTIC horror game so i understadn having kids be curious and checking the tags but then go and download and make content in the fandom when the games existince at the moment is clearly for adults only i have some personal problems with the creator but even the creator has mutiple times stated not to interact with the game and minors still do it
@@kosedelious2063 fcourse kids are gonna be curious the probelm is when they see "18+ erotic game kids not allowed" and the proseed to join the fandom and create content for that game even after being told not to what kids to in private with friends is none of anyones buissnes but creating content is more of the problem
@@GaetorCreation i feel like when one says "18+" or "minors noy allowed" its taken as a challenge, most kids want to prove they can be mature and see grownup stuff
@@kosedelious2063 and if they did that in private I wouldn't be so angry The problem is kids making Animation memes and fanart and be active and talk in the community
i LOVE your videos, they're very well put together and the summarization without bias is the cherry on top, i have trouble focusing through most commentary videos but yours really grabs my attention. The art / speedpaint in the background is wonderful aswell.
As someone who got really angry at the very beginning, I remember when she made the “We need to talk.” video and I posted a long comment sympathizing and apologizing for what happened and she responded with like 1-2 words. I, of course, being 14 and idolizing her, was very upset but didn’t let that anger go into the drama. (Someone else also commented calling me a kid and mocking me for only getting a short response 💃🏽✨) In the Synni drama it was this (from a Fan’s view.) basically Either you, A. Stanned Synni and excused everything she did (even the bad things she’s admitted to) and attacked everyone who said anything about the things she has done wrong. B. Hated her without ever even looking at evidence or her apology or anything and just wanting to put her down. C. Kept neutral. D. Was a mix. Also, as someone who has severe ADHD, (possible!!!) clinical depression (my mom has it and I know it’s genetic and some times I just can’t stop the sadness/lows), anxiety, and Maladaptive daydreaming (and much more.) I agree with the whole “Telling someone to stop is like telling someone who’s depressed to stop being sad.” Honestly this entire video was so fkn spot on Thanks for this video, I wish we had it months ago.
I also suffer with terrible nightmares/maladaptive daydream about 🍇, due to past -s3xu@l- assault and many other experiences. You can’t control it. The nightmares and maladaptive daydream are so. so. Bad. I don’t really want to say much about myself, but I genuinely understand that point you made.
@@mindeater9807 😐 I wasn’t trauma dumping Besides most of the time if I just say “Yeah, I suffered from these things” Everyone says “Cap, stop lying you just want to be like ____” So shut up. I wasn’t trauma dumping to make a point I was just talking about the things I suffered from. Like bro wtf is wrong with you
I used to think the rape thoughts was actually romantizing but right now I realized that it might be legit intrusive thoughts when you think more into the actual context
Agree with the kids not understanding certain mature things. I am 18 and even I don't touch certain subjects as I feel like I wouldn't be able to tackle them correctly. Minors in adult spaces is hazardous for both parties. Especially the minor down the line. One of my pet peeves when it comes to situations where the minor is in places and doing things that they can't properly handle (the Your Boyfriend thing was a _perfect_ example of this) is them saying "I'm mature for my age!" No, no you're not. And you won't be until several years later when your brain is fully developed. Why do you think its 18+? Because people that age and older can handle it. You cannot. (Heck even at my age I'm still not able to handle it. Why do you think the drinking age is 21?) Kids get into taboo and freaky subjects because they want to be like the big boys, they want to be like the adults. But they arent old enough for it and cannot handle it. Fiction does affect reality and it's a dangerous slippery slope with kids involved. So you guys saying that you're mature for your age, no, no you are not. You are not developed enough to handle it (even if you have seen things, in which case is another can of worms). Wait a few years, and THEN you will be able to. Take it from someone who has been in that "I'm more mature" phase.
There are kids out there who are actually more mature and can handle things like this easier and more responsibly than others. I discovered 18+ things when I was 11 but I was able to deal with it and here I am now just fine. Just because some have a situation like you doesn't mean they aren't more mature.
@@k1-b0keebo66 it still all depends tho I understand that some mature faster, but those who are younger than the area that's for older members and such (18+ spaces) should not be in those spaces (Ngl the fact you've found stuff at 11 kinda worries me but that's just me)
I agree with both of your points. It depends on people because there are people who will handle it more maturely then others. Thats just how it is we all aren't the same. But I also agree that even if you are *mature* for your age. Minors still shouldn't be in those type of places that are 18+ because there are some minors who just can't and it will mess them up pretty badly. I feel like in this generation currently tweens dont even exist because kids are trying to grow up fast and act like adults when they shouldn't be and should enjoy being a kid while they still can.
@@Jynxxx5 ah, she done a brief picture mention of YBF in one of the sections and I was surprised to see it. So I've noticed no one talkin abt it, cause ofc it's not the point of the video. But I wanted to mention it
@@cannibee47 ah I see now. I guess that glossed over me. Funny how she says that when the creator is making a SFW version once the NSFW version is done and the main account for the game is trying their best to block minors from seeing their stuff.
@@Jynxxx5 i guess they are also talking about how minors are ignoring that a sfw version is coming out and are still gonna look at the gameplays of the nsfw version because "they are mature". as a minor who is waiting for the sfw version, there are sadly alot of minors who are doing that.
@@ranchustars3050 yeah and we shouldn’t blame the creators or even the minors for that, cuz the official Twitter page is trying their best to check if any of their followers are of age which can be hard cuz the game is slowly getting traction and we shouldn’t blame the minor because they’re not mature enough to realize they shouldn’t be looking at it…or they do know but want to seem cool and older like you said.
I can agree with the points made, the internet can severely impact the way we think. Because of sexual actions being normalized on the internet, I ended up being sexually assaulted in a relationship without realizing it. It messes you up because you are taught that it is normal. Which is why trigger warnings are important
As someone who is planning on making a comic that touches upon these similar taboo topics I think I needed to see this video because I wasn't planning on adding an age rating to the comic, which I now know is VERY irresponsible lmao A lot of drama comes from the fact that way too many kids are on the internet right now and soon we will have more adults to keep them in check (ie the kids on the internet now will grow up and be able to also police kids along with the pre existing adults) Great video :D
I cannot believe I have been watching birdie drama for 3 whole years. She has left such an impact on the community that we had to talk about it for 3 YEARS
The internet is honestly black and white, one minute someone can be sweet and the next they may act fake. It’s pretty fickle, but everyone has a dark side, and I’m proud of Synthia for coming out and acknowledging her part in the matter. Not many people have the courage to do that, but what breaks my heart is that people still bring it up like it’s fresh in their memories. This is what I call Hive Mind, where the law majority rules and anyone who tries to go against it, will be shut down. Nice video, Stream, I hope you read these comments honestly, as well as any constructive criticism you receive.
19:22, That's why I want to do research on those matters. Because I've seen way too many kids falling for romanticized and bastardized versions of serious topics. For example: Some of my characters are victims of SA, not because I'm trying to give them a sob story but because that's simply how their story went. I am researching how PTSD can affect the brain and attempting to show it through properly made stories. Am I perfect? No, I'm still a bit new to making proper storylines and scripts, but I can try my hardest to improve and learn.
Similar situation! Currently doing research on depression for my OC/Main character in the story. Can you recommend some good places to research? Wikipedia is good and all but it’s still not enough
The moment I learned about what Synni did, I felt...betrayed? So eventually I just unsubbed. But then I saw her saying that she wanted to make an apology video, I decided to keep my opinion as undefined. But I knew I was genuinely angry at the people who were impatient and kept expressing it. I even remember someone saying amongst the lines of : "You know, it's your fifth post about 'taking your time'. I'm starting to think you spend more time doing these posts rather than actually working on the video."
Hhhh. People acting like therapists in this community. Press X to doubt for this community to ever improve. Most of these people I understand were kids, but Synni was also one as well. I would never be able to put up with that shit. It just kinda hits home for me
I'm totally saddened by the fact people shamed synthia for having mental illness. As someone who was proffesionally diagnosed by therapists and doctors, you can't just "stop" being mentally ill, sure you can "stop" it by taking medications and go to therapy sessions and talk to a psychologist, but it won't fully "stop" and you can't just easily get rid of it. Mental illnesses aren't your regular illnesses like having a flu...it's a mental thing, that stays with you for the rest of your life, and it's really hard to live like that. People should feel ashamed, because shaming someone for being mentally ill is kinda ableist imo.
To be honest, only people that should forgive synni are the communities of people she’s hurt and as a whole people who have been some kind of victim to her in her life, only if they WANT to aswell.
And remember kids: your sexuality primerely depends on hormones. Majority of people are bisexual and it's normal according to our nature, but because of our sosaciety rules we sometimes cant realize that.
I was very disappointed with synni when I first heard about this but now I’m more disappointed in myself and the internet. Synni is a human being like everyone else in this is strange world and we gave them too many expectations like all idols get. Birdie obviously doesn’t wanna change but Synni does. Sure Synni did some shitty things but so have we. We attacked them and other people because of one little mistake we did. We were all in the wrong here. I have been in an abusive friendship before and honestly it seemed like Birdie’s influence fueled Synni’s behavior which isn’t Synni’s fault because they can’t control Birdie’s behavior and influence on them. I think Synni was just in a wrong place at the wrong time. It’s obvious that they struggle with mental health and I’m glad they’re getting help for it. All we need to do as fans is support them and also mind our own business. Synni changed and I’m glad about that because that means we can all move forward and forget about the drama. I think what’s ironic about this situation is that we do this when someone has done something bad but usually when we do something wrong, we defend our actions and think we’re in the right. It has to stop. No more god damn drama, please.
From what I can remember, Birdie is currently offline getting help in therapy improving tenfold. I personally don’t care if he never returns, I just hope the information is correct and that he is recovering and changing. For real this time. Spoctor touched on it briefly on one of his recent videos. There’s probably more info elsewhere
Haven't finished the video yet, but I swear so that so many aspects of this drama were really gross looking back on it now. I just- It really fun pisses me off to know that people are this awful and to know that I believed a lot of this shit. Yes, I always thought that Synni should have the right to use her vent world and I felt bad for her because of what she was going through. But I just regret the rest. No, I am not going to defend everything she's done, but this could've been handled a lot better. And to Synni, I'm sorry. I didn't want you to be cancelled or anything like that, but I actively gave the misinformation discussed in both this video and the comment section, which wasn't my intention but I still believed it to be the truth. I'm glad that you've apologized for your actual wrongdoings and improved, and I hope to follow in your footsteps. I keep finding out that I have made so many mistakes because of who I put my trust in and my lack of research which only makes me feel worse. This is why I am trying to remember that it was the past and that I am still improving, and that I should address my mistakes and learn from them. Thank you Stream for creating this video. My eyes have been opened to the reality and I'm glad that I've started to try and listen to how I really feel instead of trying to perpetuate whatever stupid shit the internet has to say. Edit: The only thing I disagree with so far is the whole thing about how younger kids shouldn't be writing about abuse and stuff. I think it should depend on maturity and how young the kid actually is. Obviously 10 year olds shouldn't be writing about that, but older kids should be allowed to if they have enough maturity to do so and understand to a degree that abuse is wrong. Also it's quite helpful for coping with shit. Take it from me, some random 13 year old weirdo on the internet who likes creating characters who have suffered from childhood trauma as a way of coping with some things. I've just exposed myself to a lot of shit on purpose because I like dark and disturbing stories, but I wouldn't exactly recommend this to most for obvious reasons.
This is very well done! I agree with all you said and I'm relieved to see someone finally say what needed to be said. People need to stop sticking their noses into other people's personal business, it's really creepy lol. The arrogance and entitlement of this community is just really pathetic and sad sometimes
Sometimes I get very mad at the canceling because it always go after people who make small mistakes. Like people who make cute characters and backgrounds while making it creepy and dark as well. In Gator’s video, they said that animations have a symbol in them. There are people who have characters that are fucked up and stuff like that, but people don’t attack them for that because the people know that the person who made that character doesn’t support or fantasize those stuff.
Spot on man! Some key points like how we need to stop thinking in black and white and how us looking at things one sided is bad and how kids need to stay away from adult topics and how people should put trigger warnings and stuff. Yeah completely agree and understand what you mean with how the community can misinterpret things and how we need to keep matters like this more private. Because as soon as word gets out, it can just spark chaos like this again. And like Stream says "Other peoples problems aren't your problem to deal with" the only time I would say it would be good to expose someone is if the person has a chance of putting peoples safety or mental health at risk, like groomers and pedo's etc Then yeah, you should probably warn people about that to prevent others from getting hurt. Other than that don't go around poking at peoples personal business. Make sure to listen to warnings on content and make sure to put content/trigger warnings on some content you make and always try to see more than one sides to the story. Anyway stay safe everyone and be kind ^w^
As someone who has maladaptive daydreams multiple times everyday for years- I don’t think it’s an disorder but rather a coping mechanism? If it is a disorder then that’s news to me-
Edit (9/16/2024): Wow, this comment and video has aged weirdly given the circumstances. I just feel really sad going back to this. :( Honestly, the Synni drama was just one big mess that could have been avoided if people had handled things better and didn’t make the same mistakes others made in different dramas (like how in the hopeless peaches drama, only one youtuber talked to her, like how only 2 talked to Synni to get her story during the drama). I know I feel bad over this drama because I made stupid comments that went along with the narrative going on with Synni being a bad person (and unintentionally spreading some false info) and even going to the point of thinking her apology video was gonna be bad in another comment on dreamur’s deleted video. Thankfully I deleted these comments after realizing how awful and dumb they were but I still feel guilty over them. I hope if any future drama’s like this happen that people can finally learn from the Synni and hopeless peaches drama’s before jumping onto sides but I doubt it. TLDR: Stay the hell outta drama’s and don’t pick sides until you see both sides of the story.
Yea I agree,I feel like this person lowkey made it worse by applying themselves to the situation yknow there are a lot of flaws in this video I want to point out,one pissed me off where they kept saying something then switching up saying "we won't talk about it,its not my place" in my head I'm just asking why did they bring it up in the first place,which gives more people to feed into the drama. I just think that if they didn't apply themselves to the drama there wouldn't be much of a problem,,
@@chocolatemilk2686 I wasn’t talking about Streamline Workshop current video (Aka this one) but other’s in the drama in general. Also I take this video more as critiquing the drama and how it was handled by others and themselves. They didn’t want to speak on the relationship because it wasn’t their place and wanted to address that they shared private info they shouldn’t have shared.
@@SpaceySodaPop yes and about the relationship, even so there are people who will go out of there way to harass about the situation now that has been brought up,because now their curios I'm seeing some people asking about it and even on said they was gonna find info,Either way This person shouldn't have brought it up because at the end of the day we cant control the curiosity of young children who are now intrigued on the relationship topic,if Synni wants to talk ab it let them,dont bring it up in the video because its lowkey type dumb and off.
THIS. I swear I could not agree with the video overall more. The internet is just an incredibly huge mess, and humanity is just becoming more and more ignorant on sensitive subjects, it makes me sick to think that there is so much misinformation being spread, and that extremely immature thought of content creators being perfect people, as long as I know content creators usually portrait their internet persona with no huge flaws despite certain personality traits, however once they commit a huge mistake their audience are not used to such thing thus, the impact it has is much bigger, and somehow even if they apologize people will try to drag their reputation even further down. in Synni's case, let's be real, REAL monsters do not look scary, or have something off about them that you can spot on plain sight, characters who have bright colors and look cutesy that does not mean automatically that everything they do is right, Taki is an example, but somehow, just because they look cute a lot of misinterpretation is spread and call her out for "romanticizing" real issues, just completely absurd. 21:26 Honestly, I am a minor and the game is literally hunting me lol But as soon as I saw the creator's wish of minors not playing the game nor interacting with the community I understood and decided to respect it, I saw that there was a SFW version coming out so I was sure that I'd wait for the SFW version to come out, or until I turned 18. Whatsoever, it is really hard for a content creator to control who see their videos and who don't, that's a huge issue of the internet, minors often are exposed to things they should not see nor interact with, so they rather get a lot of information they may not understand fully and try to spread false information or mature way faster losing any glance of innocence or childhood.
I feel like we should also (at least partially) blame EvidenceFound01 for this situation as well. It's a channel run by children, dedicated to canceling other children 😂
*Slowly fades in Your boyfriend on the screen* *Sigh* Does minors not know or respect the "Minors, Do not interact" sign? They be getting their nose into that game even though it is NOT meant for kids (I think the creator stopped on the project???)
@@Sinc3r3lyrecently accused Deadwingdork of being transphobic with an entirely unedited response video of his stream, basically with the intent of a witchhunt
@@willberto6969 did you watch his stream at all ??he was saying really dumb things and being really transphobic. He was in the wrong and synn has the right to comment on that and defend her friend.
Hey there! I know I've mentioned this many times but I am Julian (Racco) and I'm no longer dating Birdie and is a male. I no longer say racist things and I would like if you didn't refer me as Birdie's partner as I am not in a relationship with Birdie
@@Jynxxx5 I'm aware. I used to be apart of the art community myself and I left because of how fucked up the people in the community are. I know some of you guys aren't like this, but when I was in the community a nice majority (in my experience) were like that 😔
Haven’t completely watched the video yet so idk if this was said already but For anybody who, after all of this, isn’t comfortable supporting synni or watching their videos, that’s completely valid: you’re entitled to your own opinions. The issue arises when you go out of your way to tear her down or cancel her or whatever, or call people who like her content bad people. Nobody is going to force you to feel a certain way and as such you shouldn’t force others to feel the same as you either.
To be honest, being one of the people that had their comment in Synni’s apology video, when it came out, I had realized how rude I sounded in it. Since my views on it changed a lot since then. I find it funny that these things have continuously happened, being pointed to the wrong person or being down right wrong about it. I’m glad you talked about this even now after the drama’s done, since this is most of the communities fault for 1. Being impatient for an apology video and 2. Taking every bit of evidence, even some that is alleged, to be 100% the truth and only the truth. I’m also glad the community has realized the mistake and has dropped it from there. I still can’t believe people didn’t take any consideration towards this being synni’s first “mistake” since most of the time, creators have no clue what to do when a huge amount of people talk about you and make videos on your actions and private conversations. But we can’t change what we did, all we can do is learn from the mistakes, even though Synni has only had made some minor mistakes and even some major ones, I’m glad their now using the mistakes and learning from them.
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I want to say that I really appreciate the fact that you made this video. Tbh i was originally VERY salty towards you because of the things in your birdie video that were private, but i see you learned from what you did and I wanna thank you for clearing it up.
I'm trying really hard to move on from my own wrongdoings and do better from now on.
I also wanna be clear on one thing, its not important but it is important to me, i am no longer friends with Birdie, since my video came out i have not spoken to her, I dont want people to still think I'm still being influenced by her. that is all i want to say. Thank you again 💓 💖 💗 💛 💕
We proud of ya Synni!
I'm glad you're trying to better yourself Synni. You deserve better in so many ways. :)
Youve really improved synni. Im glad ypuve learned and arent upset
I barely know you, so the best Advice I can give is keep moving forward
I’m happy your improving :)
Synthia has stated in her video that she's seeing a therapist for her issues so please don't hassle her about this.
Even though I don't know fully who Synni is I'm glad she's getting help
I doubt people watching this won't start harassing others, I'm pretty sure they all use Twitter
Ok thank god
Then why tf did you have to bring up her drama? That shit sucks and has to be uncomfortable to be held over her head. I’ve watched through the whole video and it could’ve done without the example of her to talk about black and white thinking.
@@amandastarfan there retelling it so calm tf down and act like you can control what they do
This is a personal pet peeve of mine but I hate it when people are treated like monsters after slipping up
Especially if they’re minors
Like, just because they have a platform doesnt mean you are suddenly a god
Idolization is so confusing and dumb tbh
people expect too highly from teenagers/children
@@znvorz Exactly, synni is still just a child and is learning from all of this, we all make mistakes, we all need guidance as well, the internet was just way too quick to attack her. And frankly thats really heartbreaking.
@@kiwo7149 i am so glad i wasn't given a large platform back when i was a teen, i did so many awful things back then that i feel ashamed and disgusted about. i don't think younger me would have been able to cope and deal with the hate and constant eyes watching every little thing i do. even now as someone who just turned 21, i still don't want to be popular or have a huge platform. i still do a lot of dumb things
its not hard to not suck and be racist and shit though, like....thats it. it isnt difficult at all and being a minor isnt an excuse when you have literally the ENTIRE internet in your hands. attacking her isnt okay at all though. no buts.
@@sakuraogami6885 But think about it, this is a minor with a huge platform. When you're placed into this kind of environment, especially the internet, things are bound to happen, we all make mistakes and synni is recieving help as well so we should be encouraging now more than ever. Especially after what she went through. Saying that it “isn’t hard to not suck” is oversimplifying the entire situation, and im not trying to say being a minor is an excuse, im saying its something that should be taken in consideration because at the end of the day synni still is a child, and because of that we shouldn’t be as harsh
..... Ironic that we defended synni but turns out she DOES have a problem
Fr! It's so disappointing but most disgusting.
Yes she does have a problem, and the witchunt isn't helping. I had never even heard of this person before and God had to call me into this mess because of it.
The irony
Damn this doesn't aged well, now shes a kiddie toucher- 💀💀💀
She’s a groomer, not a pedophile 😭 but yeah this aged like milk
I guess,mhm
@Jellyfish-h6q Honestly , she threw everything out the window doing this.
All that talk about becoming a better person after she got a therapist smh and I know all this is from her mental issues so she KNEW it was f**** ig She'll never see people as people but Npcs.
Honestly so proud of you, you always try to look into things with a clear head and go to far lengths to apologise for any wrong doings. You pick apart the major holes the community that everyone tries to avoid. It's super brave of you.
I wish there was more people like you who actually gave a shit and aren't just in it for clout.
Great video as always stream! Have a sloth 🦥
Can I have some sloths 🥺
@@thomasmalone7454 of course 🦥🦥🦥
@@QuaraSanssgirl yeah 😄 thank u 🤗
i love your content so much!
Hi Quara
this did NOT age well with synnibears new allegations.
"Bisexuals don't exist"
Bisexual people: Ah damn, you right😔
*'disappears'*
Mr. Stark I don't feel so good
Tf are we then
@@mothemonster9454 :snapped:
@@mothemonster9454 y'all are toasters /j
I’m fadingggg
We've created an environment in which nobody can make mistakes and everybody has to be perfect
Once you fuck up once, that's it. you're done. you're canceled
It's so toxic and terrifying to have to navigate
I'm not saying groomers and abusers shouldn't have consequences for their actions but people get canceled over things that aren't even a big deal
How can people become better people if they're not allowed to learn from their mistakes?
FACTSSSS
YOU'RE SPITTING FACTS HERE. im honestly so scared too and i didn't even do anything.
It is a shame that quite often "cutesy" characters are bashed for being in horrible or taboo situations because "they are too cute so this is glorifying it", like, no; this is an issue not only online but in real life. Many abusers and even killers may be charming or cute but that doesn't mean they aren't capable of horrid actions. I am not a viewer of synnibear03, but I have seen clips of her abusive character and I think she did a fine job with it (from what I have seen). I actually think it is a good idea to show how anyone can be awful, not to trust anyone solely on appearance, "don't judge a book by its cover" sort of thing. The things attractive/cute people can get away with is evil, so I see her character as more of an awareness rather than glorifying the subjects, this could just be me though since I don't watch her and don't have an entire grasp on how she portrays it.
Yeah it's not glorifying or romanticing abuse but more of a representation of it. In her videos the abuser is represented as a monster rather than a cute uwu owo quirky character.
this same stuff happens on TikTok with ppl who draw cute characters in gory situations being bashed and saying that it romanticizes it, when it doesn't. also ive seen this happen with Melanie Martinez music
Reminds me of a similar situation with Admiral Ackbar, believe it or not.
The crew of Star Wars: Return of the Jedi mocked Ackbar and said he was "too ugly" to be a good guy.
Richard Marquand (the director of the movie) said "I think it's good to tell kids that good people aren't necessarily good looking people and that bad people aren't necessarily ugly people."
he refused to change the design, and gave us the Ackbar we all know and love today.
*"IT'S A TRAP!"*
Uh… well this aged well
that kid didn't though
@@V4mpDxwn bro…
@@BOO13FRI care to explain??
@@violetmoonstone6867 uh….. she groomed a minor, a lot of videos have been made talking about it
*Guys. Streamline isn’t trying to revive the drama. She’s just reviewing it and telling us and younger kids how to do better. Stop saying she’s trying to bring it back. She even makes a claim saying not to harass anyone mentioned. If she can do the same for Birdie (who hasn’t improved) then why can’t she do it for Synni? (Who has improved as far as I’m aware)*
Edit: *my god if Synni was uncomfortable she would/will say something about this video being made. Stop putting words into her mouth I’m sure she’s dealt with that a lot already.*
Edit 2: well shit, Stream said she *DID* get permission…so s h u t.
Though I don’t agree with a lot of things said/shown in the video, can we stop with the stupid comments
Synni hasn't improved, but even if she had why dredge up the drama after being long dead, especially since she did it twice
@@tidepodpadthai2633 she has improved. She doesn’t talk to/draw birdie anymore, she doesn’t say slurs anymore and respects the minorities she hurt, she adds proper trigger warnings and depicts a**se in a respectful manor and she has said sorry to her ex and winter gutz and also Charlie. :/ she’s also going to therapy so idk why you want the drama to drag on….
@@tidepodpadthai2633 if you are bitching about her story and characters and the subject matter of her animations. Grow up and log off.
are you sure about that?
edit: um guys synni has improved
@@tidepodpadthai2633 she made an entire fucking apology video explaining herself and telling people what was going on and what she’ll do now.
Honestly, the blame should be on the parents. Nowadays our parents give out the gadgets to extremely young impressionable 6 to 14 years old (even younger than that..) to let internet babysit them where predators and any bad influence can manifest to their own lives.
Parents need to consult and monitor their gadgets. What in the hell just happen with our generation nowadays?
Agreed
@@fatalhug5998 Yes, I agreed
Yeah, parents need to keep an eye on their children more, whether the children likes it or not.
@@moonspiritleaf12 To be fair tho, yes. It's for their own well being. Something like Birdie, Synnibear and other people involve in this "drama" (NO, this is not a drama anymore, its straight off committing crime!) have been affected and the damage has been done. Honestly i am ok with people holding minor's accountability but the blame and harsher accountability must be on Parents, too.
Birdie and the people involve there to commit heinous crime like this? Needs to get some serious help. If their parents can't take care of them then they should've done something else than letting it happen to them
Idk, that's just me. I wanted to say that why we have to blame on minors where parents are the main core of their lives? They should be the one to be blamed on.
@@hollabackcatto6701 Yeah, honestly. Why blame the minors when it’s their parents fault for giving them a technical device at a young age?
Let’s just try and keep new minors out of other people’s business and out of stuff that isn’t for them.
Remember kids, not everything is black and white, it’s a lovely shade of grey.
and then one of them was a groomer. (it was synni, she confessed to grooming a 14 year old)
About that argument of "if you draw this serious theme and add cutesy stuff, then you're romanticizing it" makes me mad like, if I take that logic of yours then I can say that Japan does it just for the fact that they portray serious themes with cutesy stuff when in reality, it's not that.
In Japan the topic of mental health is very taboo and with doing that they are spreading awarenesses about it, Jesus Christ I can't believe that argument still exists. Makes me feel ashamed of drawing creepy cute stuff :(
I hope the internet learns this time (although I doubt it) about not thinking in black and white, hearing all sides of the story and for the love of God creepy cute stuff exists and if that's not your cup of tea that's okay! But please don't start drama.
agreed 1000%. people who argue art with dark themes made to look cutesy are only reading that art literally, forgetting that art has different interpretations
This! Like if I’ve got a cutesy art style and I want to portray darker themes with my artwork, does that mean I have to change my art style?? Like lmfao where is the logic here
@@ImJustMomo exactly!
@@ihatemaxitsmeimmax8268 yeah! Tbh that doesn't make any sense! >:0
Wait until people find out about Yamikawaii then watch the mess unfold.
Well this didn’t age well…
Hey stream… why were you right…
For everyone saying Streamline is trying to "revive drama" if you could actually watch the full video, she has tried to review what Synni did and how others react and not giving her a chance to apologize for herself because it took months for Synni to make a video, yet people were being toxic behind her back in progress of making her video. No offense, but it's very embarrassing and pathetic how people are arguing over the comment section instead of watching the video.
She explains in full details of what went wrong and going over each sections. Please stop saying Streamline is trying to throw more fire into the drama, she puts an end to it and that's all, never on purpose. Overall, I love this video and I agree with you and most of your points on this drama that had happened! I am happy you were brave to explain it all very well! Take care of yourself Streamline!
Insert clapping
Omg thank you
Yes! And they’re saying “Synni doesn’t want the drama revived!” Which is just putting words into her mouth..it’s disgusting and hypocritical. We should wait and see if Synni likes it or not.
this uhhhh.... predicted the future
3:29 - 3:36
Didn't Synni during that entire time of her understanding, scripting, then recording her video, while having a job, school, and I'm sure the mental issues that came with the drama, post on her community that she was working on it but to be patient?
I swore I saw like three posts of her saying that-
Yupe
There was a point you brought up, and I very much agree with it. yes believe it or not bi ppl can make bi phobic comments. just bc ppl a person is bi doesn't mean they can be biphobic. blair white is a noticeable example of this. even though shes trans she still makes transphobic comments at other trans people.
This aged worse than a month old expired jug of milk
Crazy how people chose to ignore the signs. Jeffrey dahmer is a prime example of why you shouldn't do that.
this aged weirdly
Soooooooooo… it uh… turns out Synni groomed a minor recently… and had a history of doing that apparently…
this re-surfacing NOW is hilarious, i remember watching this 3 years ago.
aged like milk, but im still glad this was made at the time
(quick edit here! OH MY GOD. OH MY. OH MY GOODNESS! WOW. I DIDNT NEED TO SEE THAT ART AND THOSE MESSAGES!!)
More like wine now
@@willberto6969 THIS REPLY IS HOW I FOUND OUT, IM GOING INSANE
God, this aged terribly.
hi streamline! this isnt a hate comment by any means but i just want to understand why my video lumped with all the other videos made on synni? ( 3:22 ) i wasnt even being like "grr synni should apologize faster grr" and i didnt want to "tear synni down". i made my original video because i felt as some of things used against synni were over exaggerated, nor did i want "synni to rush out a bad video", in fact i genuinely wanted to hear what synni had to say. my intention while making my video was to give synni the benefit of the doubt and to put some water over the fire that was this situation. im sorry if you misinterpreted what i was trying to say or what my motives were while watching the video, that is my fault as a content creator and mines alone. im still pretty new to commentary and trying to get better but i never had any ill intent against synni while making my video.
Oh damn this needs to be bumped up
@@Jynxxx5 I liked it to bump it up in the comment section. (Maybe this reply might help? I mean, more interaction.)
commenting to bump this up
commenting to bump
my world is burning down around me~
shes not like us
Ok but like, cant we just appreciate the improvement of Streams art and organization of the video
No because that's not the point of the video 😀 tf
@@taigawc no but it's bad timing lol we talking about something serious and people are being immature and not professional. The art is not the point of the video
@@chocolatemilk2686 Uhhhh and?
Tbis is VERRYYY relevant now,,,
More like what is wrong with Synnibear03 now
Daydreaming is a form of escape just so yall know so I can understand why synni has a "vent world" and i can understand how that world changed her thoughts on Birdie cause that happened to me when I was in a relationship it wasn't fun and I hurt myself even if he was a manipulative little shit I hurt myself a lot cause I thought he was the best thing I'd ever get
Daydream all you like just try not to get trapped you can do more harm then good for others and yourself
Daydream responsibly kids
I see we have all gathered here today
This video aged like milk
As a 14 year old myself, I honestly had the same view through the drama. Well mostly with the romanticizing r@pe and how ridiculous it was that people called Synni a predator to lgbtq women. Even hearing it from Dreamurr’s video I sort of went, “I’m sorry?” But yes, I can see your point of how people are so quick to believe that certain people can do no wrong and when they do it’s the end of the fucking world. But kids should know that not everyone in life is perfect and will never be perfect. Especially sense MOST drama in the animation meme community is just KIDS. Kids do stupid shit and they learn. It’s going to happen and having a TH-cam channel with a big audience like Synni and birdie must be terrifying because all eyes are on them. And it’s hard when stuff gets leaked and doxxed with a blink of an eye.
Yeah if they learn their mistakes like synni did things will turn out right but then some times they don't like birdie and the issue will grow and grow.
@@k1-b0keebo66 but you see, there comes a point where it should just be ignored and we should pay no attention to Birdie.
Shut up
@@HemiHami no 🥰🥰
@@haunted_loverboy6537 shut up
It’s crazy to even think, but for those not aware, Birdie has left the internet and supposedly going to therapy, improving tenfold. He was a in a very toxic environment and left so now he actually is getting better. Whether he comes back to the internet or not, I hope this is true and that Birdie is in fact changing. I have a little doubt but I’m rooting for him.
I love people like you.
Also for some people, dreamur and synni have apologized for their mistakes already( I can link the videos!!), this video isn't stream saying either party is a horrible person, basically just analyzing. Both have owned up to faults
@『 ハツメ-スキヤマ 』 It's just a add on to streams disclaimer tbh
he is actually bigender so she/he, not just she/her. also sorry i dont mean to annoying about this but a lot of bigender get mistaken as cis cuz they still partly still identify with there birth gender.
Not annoying at all just a simple correction of what someone’s pronouns are
Well then streamline can still use she/her pronouns here.
Yes that’s true but at the end of the day bigender people are still trans people so he as not detransition at all.
@@k1-b0keebo66 no streamline needs to use she/he pronouns it’s disrespectful to just use she/her pronouns when they use both she/her and he/him they need to alternate
@@literaltrash5189 i go by she/he too and i'm fine if somebody uses only she/her or he/him towards me
Another thing she is no longer friends with birdie.
Aren't they roommates tho?
GONNA NEED A NEW VIDEO, DOG, SYNNIBEAR03 LORE JUST DROPPED.
Birdie is like Chris Chan of the art community. I bet she's going to jail too when she turns 18.
hey have you seen that birdie (or jack) uploaded like,an update video?i have yet to see someone in the commentary community talk about it.from what i seen he was explaining some dramas and all and i think he is changing and doing better?but yeah
what a disgusting way to describe someone, especially now knowing what really happened
@@Ghost99002 bro... this was 2 years ago
@@piretiris8223 still a pretty gross way to talk about someone
@@Ghost99002 it wasn't when I wrote this
Now, the thing with minors interacting with adult content or games. You used the Your Boyfriend game as an example correct? The adults who have played and interacted with the games make content, memes, and art about the main character which gets people who haven’t interacted with the fandom or game curious. Curiosity is a very strong thing, people will do anything to get information which is why I THINK many minors interact with adult content, they just want to know about it and get caught up in a bad way.
the website were you have to download the game specifically says it´s a EROTIC horror game so i understadn having kids be curious and checking the tags but then go and download and make content in the fandom when the games existince at the moment is clearly for adults only
i have some personal problems with the creator but even the creator has mutiple times stated not to interact with the game and minors still do it
@@GaetorCreation yes they are in fault for that of course. But telling a child not to be curious is so much harder than it seems
@@kosedelious2063 fcourse kids are gonna be curious the probelm is when they see "18+ erotic game kids not allowed" and the proseed to join the fandom and create content for that game even after being told not to
what kids to in private with friends is none of anyones buissnes but creating content is more of the problem
@@GaetorCreation i feel like when one says "18+" or "minors noy allowed" its taken as a challenge, most kids want to prove they can be mature and see grownup stuff
@@kosedelious2063 and if they did that in private I wouldn't be so angry
The problem is kids making Animation memes and fanart and be active and talk in the community
i LOVE your videos, they're very well put together and the summarization without bias is the cherry on top, i have trouble focusing through most commentary videos but yours really grabs my attention. The art / speedpaint in the background is wonderful aswell.
Horrid subject portrayed in a cutesy artstyle ≠ Romantization of Horrid subject
As someone who got really angry at the very beginning, I remember when she made the “We need to talk.” video and I posted a long comment sympathizing and apologizing for what happened and she responded with like 1-2 words.
I, of course, being 14 and idolizing her, was very upset but didn’t let that anger go into the drama. (Someone else also commented calling me a kid and mocking me for only getting a short response 💃🏽✨)
In the Synni drama it was this (from a Fan’s view.) basically
Either you,
A. Stanned Synni and excused everything she did (even the bad things she’s admitted to) and attacked everyone who said anything about the things she has done wrong.
B. Hated her without ever even looking at evidence or her apology or anything and just wanting to put her down.
C. Kept neutral.
D. Was a mix.
Also, as someone who has severe ADHD, (possible!!!) clinical depression (my mom has it and I know it’s genetic and some times I just can’t stop the sadness/lows), anxiety, and Maladaptive daydreaming (and much more.) I agree with the whole “Telling someone to stop is like telling someone who’s depressed to stop being sad.”
Honestly this entire video was so fkn spot on
Thanks for this video, I wish we had it months ago.
I also suffer with terrible nightmares/maladaptive daydream about 🍇, due to past -s3xu@l- assault and many other experiences. You can’t control it. The nightmares and maladaptive daydream are so. so. Bad.
I don’t really want to say much about myself, but I genuinely understand that point you made.
@@TheInternetsLawyer You don’t need to trauma dump to make your point...
@@mindeater9807 😐
I wasn’t trauma dumping
Besides most of the time if I just say “Yeah, I suffered from these things”
Everyone says “Cap, stop lying you just want to be like ____”
So shut up.
I wasn’t trauma dumping to make a point I was just talking about the things I suffered from.
Like bro wtf is wrong with you
I used to think the rape thoughts was actually romantizing but right now I realized that it might be legit intrusive thoughts when you think more into the actual context
I feel like as someone who suffered from intrusive thoughts I should of known better
Agree with the kids not understanding certain mature things. I am 18 and even I don't touch certain subjects as I feel like I wouldn't be able to tackle them correctly. Minors in adult spaces is hazardous for both parties. Especially the minor down the line.
One of my pet peeves when it comes to situations where the minor is in places and doing things that they can't properly handle (the Your Boyfriend thing was a _perfect_ example of this) is them saying "I'm mature for my age!"
No, no you're not. And you won't be until several years later when your brain is fully developed. Why do you think its 18+? Because people that age and older can handle it. You cannot. (Heck even at my age I'm still not able to handle it. Why do you think the drinking age is 21?)
Kids get into taboo and freaky subjects because they want to be like the big boys, they want to be like the adults. But they arent old enough for it and cannot handle it. Fiction does affect reality and it's a dangerous slippery slope with kids involved.
So you guys saying that you're mature for your age, no, no you are not. You are not developed enough to handle it (even if you have seen things, in which case is another can of worms). Wait a few years, and THEN you will be able to. Take it from someone who has been in that "I'm more mature" phase.
There are kids out there who are actually more mature and can handle things like this easier and more responsibly than others. I discovered 18+ things when I was 11 but I was able to deal with it and here I am now just fine. Just because some have a situation like you doesn't mean they aren't more mature.
@@k1-b0keebo66 it still all depends tho
I understand that some mature faster, but those who are younger than the area that's for older members and such (18+ spaces) should not be in those spaces
(Ngl the fact you've found stuff at 11 kinda worries me but that's just me)
I agree with both of your points. It depends on people because there are people who will handle it more maturely then others. Thats just how it is we all aren't the same. But I also agree that even if you are *mature* for your age. Minors still shouldn't be in those type of places that are 18+ because there are some minors who just can't and it will mess them up pretty badly. I feel like in this generation currently tweens dont even exist because kids are trying to grow up fast and act like adults when they shouldn't be and should enjoy being a kid while they still can.
Oh dear, Your Boyfriend is a whole topic of it's own 😅
What does this have to do with anything
@@Jynxxx5 ah, she done a brief picture mention of YBF in one of the sections and I was surprised to see it. So I've noticed no one talkin abt it, cause ofc it's not the point of the video. But I wanted to mention it
@@cannibee47 ah I see now. I guess that glossed over me. Funny how she says that when the creator is making a SFW version once the NSFW version is done and the main account for the game is trying their best to block minors from seeing their stuff.
@@Jynxxx5 i guess they are also talking about how minors are ignoring that a sfw version is coming out and are still gonna look at the gameplays of the nsfw version because "they are mature". as a minor who is waiting for the sfw version, there are sadly alot of minors who are doing that.
@@ranchustars3050 yeah and we shouldn’t blame the creators or even the minors for that, cuz the official Twitter page is trying their best to check if any of their followers are of age which can be hard cuz the game is slowly getting traction and we shouldn’t blame the minor because they’re not mature enough to realize they shouldn’t be looking at it…or they do know but want to seem cool and older like you said.
oh this aged… oddly.
I can agree with the points made, the internet can severely impact the way we think. Because of sexual actions being normalized on the internet, I ended up being sexually assaulted in a relationship without realizing it. It messes you up because you are taught that it is normal. Which is why trigger warnings are important
say sike right now everyone..
And then they were roommates 😦(Birdie and synni)
Not anymore.☠️
Who's gonna tell her?
As someone who is planning on making a comic that touches upon these similar taboo topics I think I needed to see this video because I wasn't planning on adding an age rating to the comic, which I now know is VERY irresponsible lmao
A lot of drama comes from the fact that way too many kids are on the internet right now and soon we will have more adults to keep them in check (ie the kids on the internet now will grow up and be able to also police kids along with the pre existing adults)
Great video :D
I cannot believe I have been watching birdie drama for 3 whole years. She has left such an impact on the community that we had to talk about it for 3 YEARS
It might seem crazy what im boutta say..
The internet is honestly black and white, one minute someone can be sweet and the next they may act fake. It’s pretty fickle, but everyone has a dark side, and I’m proud of Synthia for coming out and acknowledging her part in the matter. Not many people have the courage to do that, but what breaks my heart is that people still bring it up like it’s fresh in their memories. This is what I call Hive Mind, where the law majority rules and anyone who tries to go against it, will be shut down. Nice video, Stream, I hope you read these comments honestly, as well as any constructive criticism you receive.
i love the way you talk about things, youre really mature.
Thank you for making video :DD I wanted to know what this drama was but I couldn’t find good videos but thank you making this :))
At least she apologized tho
Well this didn’t age very well
Welp, This video Didn't age well.
19:22, That's why I want to do research on those matters. Because I've seen way too many kids falling for romanticized and bastardized versions of serious topics. For example:
Some of my characters are victims of SA, not because I'm trying to give them a sob story but because that's simply how their story went. I am researching how PTSD can affect the brain and attempting to show it through properly made stories. Am I perfect? No, I'm still a bit new to making proper storylines and scripts, but I can try my hardest to improve and learn.
Also sorry if this comment seems a bit wonky, I'm kinda tired and mentally drained.
Similar situation! Currently doing research on depression for my OC/Main character in the story. Can you recommend some good places to research? Wikipedia is good and all but it’s still not enough
@@EpicSandwich301 [🍰] Try the Mayo Clinic. They're super resourceful..
@@Phantasmagora thanks!
@@EpicSandwich301 [🍰] You're very welcome!..
The moment I learned about what Synni did, I felt...betrayed? So eventually I just unsubbed.
But then I saw her saying that she wanted to make an apology video, I decided to keep my opinion as undefined. But I knew I was genuinely angry at the people who were impatient and kept expressing it. I even remember someone saying amongst the lines of : "You know, it's your fifth post about 'taking your time'. I'm starting to think you spend more time doing these posts rather than actually working on the video."
Can we just appreciate the amount of effort put in the speed paint
Like THOSE CLOUDS LOOK SO REAL HOW DO YOU DO IT
Hhhh. People acting like therapists in this community. Press X to doubt for this community to ever improve. Most of these people I understand were kids, but Synni was also one as well. I would never be able to put up with that shit. It just kinda hits home for me
I'm totally saddened by the fact people shamed synthia for having mental illness. As someone who was proffesionally diagnosed by therapists and doctors, you can't just "stop" being mentally ill, sure you can "stop" it by taking medications and go to therapy sessions and talk to a psychologist, but it won't fully "stop" and you can't just easily get rid of it. Mental illnesses aren't your regular illnesses like having a flu...it's a mental thing, that stays with you for the rest of your life, and it's really hard to live like that. People should feel ashamed, because shaming someone for being mentally ill is kinda ableist imo.
To be honest, only people that should forgive synni are the communities of people she’s hurt and as a whole people who have been some kind of victim to her in her life, only if they WANT to aswell.
And remember kids: your sexuality primerely depends on hormones. Majority of people are bisexual and it's normal according to our nature, but because of our sosaciety rules we sometimes cant realize that.
I'm just gonna watch this before I watch any of the recent drama stuff regarding her.
The song at the start-
Amazing
I was very disappointed with synni when I first heard about this but now I’m more disappointed in myself and the internet.
Synni is a human being like everyone else in this is strange world and we gave them too many expectations like all idols get. Birdie obviously doesn’t wanna change but Synni does. Sure Synni did some shitty things but so have we. We attacked them and other people because of one little mistake we did. We were all in the wrong here. I have been in an abusive friendship before and honestly it seemed like Birdie’s influence fueled Synni’s behavior which isn’t Synni’s fault because they can’t control Birdie’s behavior and influence on them.
I think Synni was just in a wrong place at the wrong time. It’s obvious that they struggle with mental health and I’m glad they’re getting help for it. All we need to do as fans is support them and also mind our own business.
Synni changed and I’m glad about that because that means we can all move forward and forget about the drama.
I think what’s ironic about this situation is that we do this when someone has done something bad but usually when we do something wrong, we defend our actions and think we’re in the right. It has to stop. No more god damn drama, please.
this aged well
Off topic to the video, the art is amazing
The Birdie situation is so depressing too me.
From what I can remember, Birdie is currently offline getting help in therapy improving tenfold. I personally don’t care if he never returns, I just hope the information is correct and that he is recovering and changing. For real this time. Spoctor touched on it briefly on one of his recent videos. There’s probably more info elsewhere
I am pretty sure Birde still wants to go by he/him, but he went back to she/her because of his parents.
Haven't finished the video yet, but I swear so that so many aspects of this drama were really gross looking back on it now. I just- It really fun pisses me off to know that people are this awful and to know that I believed a lot of this shit. Yes, I always thought that Synni should have the right to use her vent world and I felt bad for her because of what she was going through. But I just regret the rest. No, I am not going to defend everything she's done, but this could've been handled a lot better. And to Synni, I'm sorry. I didn't want you to be cancelled or anything like that, but I actively gave the misinformation discussed in both this video and the comment section, which wasn't my intention but I still believed it to be the truth. I'm glad that you've apologized for your actual wrongdoings and improved, and I hope to follow in your footsteps. I keep finding out that I have made so many mistakes because of who I put my trust in and my lack of research which only makes me feel worse. This is why I am trying to remember that it was the past and that I am still improving, and that I should address my mistakes and learn from them. Thank you Stream for creating this video. My eyes have been opened to the reality and I'm glad that I've started to try and listen to how I really feel instead of trying to perpetuate whatever stupid shit the internet has to say.
Edit: The only thing I disagree with so far is the whole thing about how younger kids shouldn't be writing about abuse and stuff. I think it should depend on maturity and how young the kid actually is. Obviously 10 year olds shouldn't be writing about that, but older kids should be allowed to if they have enough maturity to do so and understand to a degree that abuse is wrong. Also it's quite helpful for coping with shit. Take it from me, some random 13 year old weirdo on the internet who likes creating characters who have suffered from childhood trauma as a way of coping with some things. I've just exposed myself to a lot of shit on purpose because I like dark and disturbing stories, but I wouldn't exactly recommend this to most for obvious reasons.
This is very well done! I agree with all you said and I'm relieved to see someone finally say what needed to be said. People need to stop sticking their noses into other people's personal business, it's really creepy lol. The arrogance and entitlement of this community is just really pathetic and sad sometimes
Sometimes I get very mad at the canceling because it always go after people who make small mistakes. Like people who make cute characters and backgrounds while making it creepy and dark as well. In Gator’s video, they said that animations have a symbol in them. There are people who have characters that are fucked up and stuff like that, but people don’t attack them for that because the people know that the person who made that character doesn’t support or fantasize those stuff.
Spot on man!
Some key points like how we need to stop thinking in black and white and how us looking at things one sided is bad
and how kids need to stay away from adult topics and how people should put trigger warnings and stuff.
Yeah completely agree and understand what you mean with how the community can misinterpret things and how we need to keep matters like this more private. Because as soon as word gets out, it can just spark chaos like this again. And like Stream says "Other peoples problems aren't your problem to deal with" the only time I would say it would be good to expose someone is if the person has a chance of putting peoples safety or mental health at risk, like groomers and pedo's etc
Then yeah, you should probably warn people about that to prevent others from getting hurt.
Other than that don't go around poking at peoples personal business. Make sure to listen to warnings on content and make sure to put content/trigger warnings on some content you make and always try to see more than one sides to the story.
Anyway stay safe everyone and be kind ^w^
As someone who has maladaptive daydreams multiple times everyday for years- I don’t think it’s an disorder but rather a coping mechanism? If it is a disorder then that’s news to me-
When all these people getting canceled and harassed are literal kids.
ooohhh......oh no....
Edit (9/16/2024): Wow, this comment and video has aged weirdly given the circumstances. I just feel really sad going back to this. :(
Honestly, the Synni drama was just one big mess that could have been avoided if people had handled things better and didn’t make the same mistakes others made in different dramas (like how in the hopeless peaches drama, only one youtuber talked to her, like how only 2 talked to Synni to get her story during the drama).
I know I feel bad over this drama because I made stupid comments that went along with the narrative going on with Synni being a bad person (and unintentionally spreading some false info) and even going to the point of thinking her apology video was gonna be bad in another comment on dreamur’s deleted video. Thankfully I deleted these comments after realizing how awful and dumb they were but I still feel guilty over them. I hope if any future drama’s like this happen that people can finally learn from the Synni and hopeless peaches drama’s before jumping onto sides but I doubt it.
TLDR: Stay the hell outta drama’s and don’t pick sides until you see both sides of the story.
Yea I agree,I feel like this person lowkey made it worse by applying themselves to the situation yknow there are a lot of flaws in this video I want to point out,one pissed me off where they kept saying something then switching up saying "we won't talk about it,its not my place" in my head I'm just asking why did they bring it up in the first place,which gives more people to feed into the drama. I just think that if they didn't apply themselves to the drama there wouldn't be much of a problem,,
@@chocolatemilk2686 I wasn’t talking about Streamline Workshop current video (Aka this one) but other’s in the drama in general. Also I take this video more as critiquing the drama and how it was handled by others and themselves. They didn’t want to speak on the relationship because it wasn’t their place and wanted to address that they shared private info they shouldn’t have shared.
@@SpaceySodaPop oh them nvm I understand now lol
@@SpaceySodaPop yes and about the relationship, even so there are people who will go out of there way to harass about the situation now that has been brought up,because now their curios I'm seeing some people asking about it and even on said they was gonna find info,Either way This person shouldn't have brought it up because at the end of the day we cant control the curiosity of young children who are now intrigued on the relationship topic,if Synni wants to talk ab it let them,dont bring it up in the video because its lowkey type dumb and off.
THIS. I swear I could not agree with the video overall more. The internet is just an incredibly huge mess, and humanity is just becoming more and more ignorant on sensitive subjects, it makes me sick to think that there is so much misinformation being spread, and that extremely immature thought of content creators being perfect people, as long as I know content creators usually portrait their internet persona with no huge flaws despite certain personality traits, however once they commit a huge mistake their audience are not used to such thing thus, the impact it has is much bigger, and somehow even if they apologize people will try to drag their reputation even further down. in Synni's case, let's be real, REAL monsters do not look scary, or have something off about them that you can spot on plain sight, characters who have bright colors and look cutesy that does not mean automatically that everything they do is right, Taki is an example, but somehow, just because they look cute a lot of misinterpretation is spread and call her out for
"romanticizing" real issues, just completely absurd.
21:26 Honestly, I am a minor and the game is literally hunting me lol But as soon as I saw the creator's wish of minors not playing the game nor interacting with the community I understood and decided to respect it, I saw that there was a SFW version coming out so I was sure that I'd wait for the SFW version to come out, or until I turned 18. Whatsoever, it is really hard for a content creator to control who see their videos and who don't, that's a huge issue of the internet, minors often are exposed to things they should not see nor interact with, so they rather get a lot of information they may not understand fully and try to spread false information or mature way faster losing any glance of innocence or childhood.
The creator of Your Boyfriend is a groomer so...
Okay moment I heard"Somebody once told me... " I got completely dead inside
Annapantsu at the beginning was a surprising but welcome intro.
Stream, you might want to make a new pin comment
I feel like we should also (at least partially) blame EvidenceFound01 for this situation as well. It's a channel run by children, dedicated to canceling other children 😂
*Slowly fades in Your boyfriend on the screen*
*Sigh* Does minors not know or respect the "Minors, Do not interact" sign? They be getting their nose into that game even though it is NOT meant for kids (I think the creator stopped on the project???)
Seems that she has not improved at all unfortunately
Wym
@@Sinc3r3lyrecently accused Deadwingdork of being transphobic with an entirely unedited response video of his stream, basically with the intent of a witchhunt
@@willberto6969 did you watch his stream at all ??he was saying really dumb things and being really transphobic. He was in the wrong and synn has the right to comment on that and defend her friend.
@@iggi5796first off, everything you said was wrong
Secondly, turns out Synni just wanted to take advantage of Birdie and is a creeper overall
@@willberto6969 sure dude keep believing that
Ngl I was kinda worried when I saw you tweet about this but I’m glad you handled it actually maturely
offtopic but i love the intro song,, its hilarious but also oddly calming
Hey there! I know I've mentioned this many times but I am Julian (Racco) and I'm no longer dating Birdie and is a male. I no longer say racist things and I would like if you didn't refer me as Birdie's partner as I am not in a relationship with Birdie
honestly... all I have to say is this is why I stay away from people in the art community 😬
We’re not all like this and Synni has been trying to improve.
@@Jynxxx5 I'm aware. I used to be apart of the art community myself and I left because of how fucked up the people in the community are. I know some of you guys aren't like this, but when I was in the community a nice majority (in my experience) were like that 😔
@@schoolgyaru like..the way you phrased it, EVERY artist is in the artist community xD
Haven’t completely watched the video yet so idk if this was said already but
For anybody who, after all of this, isn’t comfortable supporting synni or watching their videos, that’s completely valid: you’re entitled to your own opinions. The issue arises when you go out of your way to tear her down or cancel her or whatever, or call people who like her content bad people. Nobody is going to force you to feel a certain way and as such you shouldn’t force others to feel the same as you either.
I remember when synni was scootaloo loves sans..man that feels like forever
To be honest, being one of the people that had their comment in Synni’s apology video, when it came out, I had realized how rude I sounded in it. Since my views on it changed a lot since then. I find it funny that these things have continuously happened, being pointed to the wrong person or being down right wrong about it. I’m glad you talked about this even now after the drama’s done, since this is most of the communities fault for 1. Being impatient for an apology video and 2. Taking every bit of evidence, even some that is alleged, to be 100% the truth and only the truth. I’m also glad the community has realized the mistake and has dropped it from there. I still can’t believe people didn’t take any consideration towards this being synni’s first “mistake” since most of the time, creators have no clue what to do when a huge amount of people talk about you and make videos on your actions and private conversations. But we can’t change what we did, all we can do is learn from the mistakes, even though Synni has only had made some minor mistakes and even some major ones, I’m glad their now using the mistakes and learning from them.
THE HOPELESS PEACHES REFERENCE OML