CANON EOS R5 R6 Adapted EF LENS Test...does it work???
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One of the biggest questions I've been asked since Canon released their EOS R5 and R6 is how is the Auto Focus with EF Glass adapted with the RF adapter? On top of that how is it with third party glass from Sigma and Tamron? I tested a 400 2.8 Canon EF and a Sigma EF 70-200 2.8 on fast-moving action. I used Face Detect as well as Eye AF. I think the results speak for themselves, what do you think? Download Sample RAW FILES froknowsphoto.com/r5r6efrf/
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Did that answer your questions about adapted EF to RF lenses and if you lose anything in terms of focus speed?
Thank you! I wish canon would get product out for us to buy.
YES! Thank you so much Jared. I now have my road map set up and know where I am going with my camera equipment in the future. One question; I noticed that the exposure was in an auto mode, kind of like "auto iso" what setting is that? because I noticed you were in Manual mode but I can't seem to do that on. my Canon 7D MkII. Thanks again for this Jared, you really have answered a lot of questions I had. You Da Fro!
Thank you so much Jared. You are awesome !!!!!
Perfect! Thank you.
Any plans to do photo shoot (no video needed) with the Holy-Hebrew Trinity L Series lenses with adapter? I know you used big boy EF lens but thought I would ask. Others may be interested as I am. Thank you for your informative and fun reviews, as I look forward to them each day, I could watch for hours. 😀
I have made a considerable investment in Canon EF lenses. It is great to know the performance of the lenses does not fall off when coupled to the EOS R5 and R6 systems. Great video.....thank you Jared.
EF lens had not fall off since R and RP. Actually now with RF lens out, EF L lens are getting cheaper.
You are in a great position, with classic EF lenses you’ve already paid for and new bodies that can use them without any drop in performance.
100%… My “holy trinity” is the EF 70-200 2.8 gen 3, RF 24-105 f/4, and 180mm macro (old as dirt)-or the Lindsay Adler kit as I like to call it… I LOVE my 70-200 and do NOT want to have to upgrade it. I couldn't care less about the weight. Honestly it makes it feel more solid in my hands. It's a mind-blowing beast of a lens and works amazing on my R. So glad to see the adapters are keeping up with the improvements in the R5 for when I switch!
Will you be missing the agonising AFMA adjustements and still not getting it right at every focal length? ;)
Is also good to know that ef glass will hold its value considering they work so well adapted.
Coming from a DSLR user this eye and face detect technology is crazy. It's been out for years I can't wait to get ahold of one.
It changes the way you make photos, it's something completely different
We also have cars these days that are powered by electricity and phones that don't use wires or anything.
@@onlyonecannoli3952 Yeah, but cars can't yet detect idiot drivers and avoid them. That would be a cool feature. 😊
@@shaungibbs7400 just needs to avoid BMW-drivers.
Why would it have worsened ...
Damn, how long were you shooting for, those kids were like 8 in the beginning and like 20 by the end of the video 😂
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Im gunna estimate 12 years, sounds about right.
That is dedication..
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@@mikester1290 so I've had this camera for a decade now and here are my thoughts
Seriously was looking for this video...thanks a ton.
This is what I asked for on your R5 eye AF comment section and I’m really happy to see this, thanks a lot !!
Jared nailed it like a boss!!!! I got exactly everything I was wanting to know out of this video. Keep up the great work fam!!!
Jared nailed her like a boss? Not sure that's politically correct these days.
That EF lens adapter is gonna be the cheapest lens I’m gonna buy for the new mirrorless cameras ;)
ahhh yes, the cheapest lens ever lol
Hi Jared, the fact you are shooting at *f2.8* 🟥 and the subject is *moving so fast* , this truly shows how accurate the new Canon is. Super impressed. ✅ If that focus system was not working correctly you would have so many focus issues at *f2.8* Add in the 3rd factor that you are also moving. ✅ Many people taking photos of these guys would have a problem keeping them in frame, these guys are speedy on the field ! Enough said. Amazing results. Canon's new focus system is so impressive.
Fast? This was not yet fast, try to look at some dog sports. That is FAST. I hope Jared will shoot some as well, I want to see how it will perform there
Echoing the same sentiment, kids practice is not fast moving, try an Osprey going for a dive :-)
The more technical and practical challenge for football is locking onto the eyes of players who are wearing helmets during gameplay. It's a challenge to keep track of the active player through all the chaos of the play at 400mm ... much less to nail focus on their eyes through the grates of the helmet at f/2.8. This is one example where an advanced autofocus system would truly push most photographers, including many skilled professionals, to the next level. Either way excellent test by Jared and impressive results from the camera.
Ahhh, you are talking about the game handegg. Ok, was shortly irritated.
It's a fair point in the case of football, and the Sony A9 handles it well. But given how well it appeared to lock on and track in these tests I feel good about my R6 pre order.
I also want to see how it works with shallow depth of field with people who wear glasses.
@@heiko4297 Yep talking about American Football :)
Being so generous as to provide the raw files for us really helps me make a descision on whether or not to purchase the Canon R series camera. Thank You for that! You have a new fan her.
thanks very much Jared for making this one!! this clears lot of doubts about using ef lenses on R5/R6. very impressed to see ef lenses working equally well.
EXCELLENT recap Jared!! I have been struggling with the decision to buy the new EOS r6 ii and the potential need to get all new glass to take advantage of the camera's AF. Now seeing that I will be able to use my existing EF lenses & still get all the advantages that come with the new camera eases that decision. I can now fearlessly buy this new camera & adapter and then slowly, as budget permits, replace my older glass! Thank you for your excellent video's...
At 5:29 you can see a bee that was caught in the frame too, just by the football. Bloody impressive!
congratulations for your tests of the autofocus systems, they are the only ones that give back the real sensations on the functioning of the system.
This is the best video I have found covering this subject, so far. Thank you for this, it will help me move forward with the purchase of this camera. Thanks!
It just amazes me how fast the autofocus has developed over the last few years. It makes fast and wide open lenses practical to shoot wide open. I've started shooting most of my portraits sessions at f1.4 because I can reliably hit eye focus. Looking forward to when school sports comes back!!!
I mean you could do that in 2008 too if you had Nikon, their AF was top tier back then, Canon was playing catch up game and Sony was nowhere until Sony A7III came.
Samsung also had really good autofocus with the NX1 in 2013.
@@SMGJohn Nikon AF could find and nail the eyes in the subject in 2008?
@@SterlingSteves1
Eye tracking has been a thing for last 40 years, not sure if you honestly think autofocus has been invented yesterday.
Nikon D750 was the first Nikon body to have face and eye detection AF.
Samsung however had it since 2010 although it was not very good until NX1 came out.
But I was specifically talking about the year 2008, Nikon in 2008 had the best AF systems, thats a fact.
finally someone talking about the R6 (i have one preordered) and i’ll be using EF lens. double trouble
Thank you for this Jared been waiting for a video like this!
Absolutely really good review. Thanks a lot to spend your time and create this video for us
as a 5DIII User this is the kind of black magic I waited for to switch to...
The AF and IBIS sold me.
Now just wait for a sale^^
As a 5DIII use who did the upgrade to the R5 - it's incredible!!!!
I’m a 5diii user. Can’t wait for the price to come down and get the R5.
one year, buddy, one year and the r6 is going to be for us mortals too
Same here, i'm a 5D3 user too and is waiting for the R6. Canon did a really good job.
I'm going to try to hold out until the new tech sticker price drops. probably have to wait until after new years though
Great video! As a Sports Photographer, i cannot wait to shoot action with the R5! 45MP is perfect for Sports because we’re always doing a 50% crop, at least with the frames we send.
I"m curious to know if the 45MP cancels out the bigger buffer capacity on the R6. The R6 also supposedly has a better low light sensitivity range.
Jeff Reichert buffet on the R5 is no issue.. I shoot RAW to CF Express cards and JPEGs to SD.. haven’t had an issue with buffer limit.
I'm very impressed of the autofocus system, great review Jared.
Wow, mind blowing & impressive camera (both)! Thank you Canon and thank you too Jared for this test!
I suggest comparing stills extracted from the R5 8K video mode to still images taken with both the R5 and R6 in photo mode.
Jared, thanks for the reviews. The one thing I would like to see is a comparison of the R5 to R6 with the same real scene - no test charts. I'm trying to decide between the R5 or R6 and it really comes down to resolution so is it significant enough to shell out the extra $1,400? Thanks,
It’s great to see real examples of how well the EF adapted lenses work, especially in a constantly changing sports situation.
Thank you for all the great work jared!
I've heard more than one person describe the adapter as an "upgrade" for EF lenses because the mirrorless autofocus is that much better. Even works great with the venerable 50 f/1.0.
Ha! The 50mm 1.0 👍
Northrup must be really jealous of that background blur...
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so much Toneh
@@definedphotography all the Toneh
You work very hard on these videos. Thanks man
This was the video I was waiting for! Thanks Jared!!!
Who wants to see head to head... Canon R5 adapted glass 400 2.8 III vs Sony 400 2.8 Native glass... hit the like button so Fro will know we want this next... :)
Honestly, based on this video, I'm not sure there would be enough of a difference for it to matter.
Why not a9 with the Canon 400mm? It can do what the R5/R6 do with adapted EF lenses.
@@Kallio1971 not even close... I have the A9.
@@bjure8111 when I had the Sigma 150-600mm it would have come close to the video seen and the Sigma is a notoriously slow lens. A 400mm f/2.8 prime, yes, it would do what we saw on the video on a a9.
@@Kallio1971 the a9 is really good with native lenses but can be painfully slow with canon, I know I had the a9 and a 500mm f4 usm II CANON
Awesome stuff Jared, still looking for someone who could test this out on a car environment , preferably drift and autocross since there is a lot of back and forth and side to side movement, also testing the hours and amount of pictures taken and then switching to video to see if the camera would allow you to record anything at all.
Thanks guys!
Thank you for another great video! I wouldn’t mind seeing som landscape or building stills with the R6. Again great work!
Thanks again Jared, great to see the EF lenses perform well on the adapted mount. Seems no loss in speed or performance between the RF and adapted EF which is great news.
Canon has come a huge way from the Eos R. Looks every bit as good as Sony's tracking to me, and the R6 had plenty of resolution. It will be interesting to see what Nikons next mirrorless cameras can offer. They need to step up if they want to stay relevant. Thanks for sharing the images.
www.eoshd.com/news/chinese-user-modifies-canon-eos-r5-to-improve-heat-management-but-finds-artificial-firmware-time-limit/?fbclid=IwAR2vTNGx31RzM7mSg04rslPRi-EPckrLHPwv_7G238go3debOWDuSRlW3FA
As good? it's clearly better than Sony. See also how the IBIS works really well here.
Kusanagi Kyo better than Sony? They are catching up, but Sony with the a9 is a different level of tracking!
@@fireburn56 Nah, this can do whatever Sony camera can do and even better because none of Sony camera capable of bird eye tracking yet. And combined with better IBIS, Canon is better.
Kusanagi Kyo bird eyes tracking in BIF good luck with the blackout in the evf, canon r5 are good camera, but not for sport or BIF
It be interesting to see an A9ii(fe 400f2.8) versus R6(ef 400f2.8) match up.
Exactly the review I was looking for. I am trying to decide on the R6 and all I have is EF glass. Thanks Jared!
Thank you for this valuable info on adapted glass as I have lots of EF lenses.
"It is 8 trillion times better than the EOS R"
My EOS R: o_0
I still love my eos r.. doesn’t overheat
stickyfingaz745 Neither does the R5 on LITERALLY ANYTHING except advanced video capabilities not included in the R. 🤦🏻♂️
longliveclassicmusic still... my R doesn’t overheat, what’s your point? Neither did any previous entry level canons. The overheating issue is an issue no matter what color you try to paint it🤦
@@Sticky745 my 600d does overheat at 1080p..... so what are you saying ? are you just not good at filming that you need 8K 120pfs all the time for your lack of skill ??
Even M6 mkii is better than R, right?
Wow, not going to lie, those EF lenses performed really well adapted to the R5/6. I think you just sold Canon a whole lot of these bodies to legacy DSLR users who perhaps were on the fence thinking they'd have to invest heavily in new RF glass to gain any benefit. On this performance many R5 and R6 owners could consider never buying RF lenses and just sticking with EF glass forever lol.
dunnymonster agreed. Got my trinity setup. This is why I waited for canon to catch up.
Well, not forever but a LONG time, no rush for sure!
The RF glass sits closed to the sensor on R series cameras. It is worth switching to the new glass.
Hi Jared, thank you for this video. I have several EF L glass. Your videos are awesome. Thank you for all the educaton and work you do. BRN
Thank you for this video. I wanted to move to mirrorless but wanted to continue using my EF lenses. This video certainly helped with that decision. Well done!
“8 Trillion times better than the Eos R.”
SOLD! Lol buying one soon.
I would love to see some wildlife or sports photos with the 100-400 mkII together with the 1.4iii extender. Just wondering if it has the same speed focusing for BIF or sports
Agreed- and the 2x, less money than buying the 600mm or 800mm f11 lenses since I already have that lens!
I wonder if the 1.4 teleconverter will effect the performance?
Any test done yet?
Hi. Thank you for your great content and for keeping us informed and entertained in this hard times.
Will you make a user guide for the R6?
Awesome info I was so worried about this thank you for giving me peace of mind!
Jared: "This is an affordable lense"
Lense: $1300
its is compared to $3000 RF lense xD
@@joshuamaurer1194 haha
Fro: 8 trillion times better than the EOS R
My 40D: o_0
Just upgraded my 40d to an r6... had that old work horse since 2008
Video I've been waiting for on R6, super 😁 thanks 👍
Jared! THANK YOU. I’m gonna have this exact setup! R6 with the Sigma 70-200. Just what I was looking for and I’m PUMPED coming from my 5D3!
I'd very much like to see how well it can eye/face detect through helmets/facemasks (football, hockey, lacrosse, etc.) I'm concerned the darker light and lower contrast plus plexi or grid face guards might create problems.
Could you please test out the C-RAW files vs the RAW files on the R5? Is it hard to see any drop in quality and would be great to have files nearly half the size the sports etc?
You nailed it with that epic movie background music 👌🏼
Thanks for this video! Amazing shots.
Holy shit the AF alone is enough for me to upgrade.
Any plans to do a photo only review using the Holy/Hebrew Trinity EF L Series Lenses? Others maybe curious as well. Thank you for your consideration. I truly Look forward to all your reviews.
Thank you thank you thank you Jared... I really needed to hear this, appreciate your effort...
Was waiting for this review from you 😍😍
2:57 you can see the Canon or Sony money truck leaving for the Fro Factory 🤪. Actually it could be Pentax 🤭
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Thanks Jared, exactly what I wanted to see.
I saw this one fstoppers but came here to give a like to the TH-cam. Exactly the information we were looking for so thanks again mr. Fro man 👌👌👌👌👌👌
This is insane. Thank you canon. And Jared.
Hi Jared, when connecting an "old" Canon EF lens to the adapter to my R5, I have a drop in frame per second rate. The H+ icon is blinking and is white now and not green. With the 11-24mm F4, everything is fine. But with my 135mm F2 and my 16-35mm F2.8 mk1 it dosen't look like it's working. I've try changing aperture, shooting mode etc... It works fine with electronic shutter tho... Have you got similar experience ? Love your content, greetings form Switzerland.
Gordon from Cameralabs demonstrated this in his recent vids.
@@mirasga Gonna have a look, thanks !
WOHOO! Just what I was looking for! Thanks gentlemen
Ha ha! When you pointed that "bazooka" lens at the camera at the beginning, I put my hands up! That thing's a freakin' monster!
The AF and tracking of adapted Sigma 70-200 Sports on my Sony a7iii performed noticeably worse than native first-party lens.
Was it a Sony A mount Sigma with a Sony adapter? If not...there's your answer.
Canon has caught with Sony in only it's second try,thats impressive.
My thought also.. But when if we consider that Canon has been one of two top manufacturers for a long time, we knew that this would happen.. Wonder that what Nikon is doing.
Me agree.
Impressive, for sure. Though they did wait a long time before finally even releasing the RF system. I think they waited until the last minute knowing they had enough market share to get away with moving slower.
Was really confused with this matter. Thanks a lot jared.
Awesome stuff dude. Keep em coming.
What I need is A7sIII adapted with Canon EF test. I was looking to upgrade my EOS R, but with all this time limit issues I'm so confused! Any Canon shooter with the same questions?
Photographer or Videographer?
@@marcelmuttner both 😅! 12MP A7siii stills is a downgrade, but most of my pics are for social media. I would love to have ibis and better AF , both R6 and R5 would be a good upgrade from the R, but the overheating is an issue shooting hybrid
@@JamesLima just get the Sony FE lenses. Adapted Canon lenses are more often than not hit and miss on Sony cameras.
@@byhyew too much money invested in EF L lenses. Just want to try the A7SIII and the sony system, adapting would be easier if I resolve to jump back to Canon
@@JamesLima 12MP is good for portraits but absolutely no go for wildlife or sports for me where you need heavy cropping. It is equivalent to almost 2x digital zoom from A7SIII which is insane. If you do 2x digital zoom in a7sIII with 12mp that will be become 3mp photo. I am not sure if you want to keep or share 3mp photo in social media. I won't
Jared, please test IQ for EOS RF 100-500mm with 1.4x and 2.x teleconverters vs RF 600mm and 800mm lenses! If identical IQ then RF100-500mm would make a lot more sense (give flexibility of range).
Awesome! Thanks for these R5-R6 videos!
Video was so good now i want to buy the Fropack bundle!
Is it just me or are jared's eyes flicking back and forth unnaturally?
It’s a medical condition.. forget what it’s called
Likely from reading his teleprompter...
@@AndrewPenner No no, he's not. He adressed the subject in an FAQ video if I remember well; it's a medical condition indeed (strabism?)
@@felixd6001 fair enough, I didn't know that! Thanks :)
It's called meth. Just kidding. It's only coke.
Thank you Jared. I just got my R5! And I have Canon EF Lenses. Nice to know that I do not have to duplicate RF lenses, and that the EF lenses will work just as well with the adapter.
Another great review, been using the Fropacks and they are great ! speeds up my editing process and gives a good starting point- some i just leave !
Just what i need to see. ... just pre ordered the R5 .. thank you
Great info! Thank you. I would also like to see this same comparison with low light outdoor & indoor sports, preferably soccer/futsal related.
Double Stuffed Oreoes. Hard not to like the seamless transition into the promo. Applaud.
I was specifically looking for this video, and of course Jared made it.
Great video, I would love to see some raw files of these cameras in low light situation.
A video I've been waiting for 🙏🏿
I like how you didn't beat around the bush and just got to the test. This approach to content creation is sadly lacking in many others.
Wow! Impressive AF performance, cant wait to get the R6. I have few EF lens and not considering to get a new RF lens anytime soon. Great video Jared.
Fabulous vid. It tells the story you wanted to tell. The system works. Well done.
This was a very well done video. Just proof, not claims and assumptions. Great, thanks👍🏽👍🏽
I was wondering that if the autofocus can work with third party lens with an adapter and then your video came up ❤️ seriously needed it !! ❤️❤️🙏
A lot of answers by one video ❤️❤️
This is so good ! This is arguably the best sports photographer camera.
yeah, right up there with the A9 according to one pro bird photog, and that's with way more pixels.
Hi Jared, awesome test as always. I'd like you to experiment a bit with the dual raw modes : Backgroun Clarity, Portait relightningn but mainly background clarity. Cause I think that if you extract 2 images with backgroun clarity set to max, and off, and you align them in photoshop you may be able to get a dpth mask or an alpha mask that would help to do cut-outs
Hey Fro, thanks! Like really really thank you a gazillion times. I’m still waiting for my R5 to arrive, and have been shooting the sigma 70-200 for almost a year. It’s 1 of my favourite lenses, and I was really worried how it would hold up with R5 and an adapter. No more stress :) Thanks BroFro, peace!
Biting my nails while waiting in my camera to come in. Can't wait. Thanks Jared for making this video, its exactly what I was wanting to see as I have tons of sigma glass.
Super helpful, thank you Jared
Nice test. Looking forward to the R6 when it will be on market in sweden.
I’ve been waiting for this review!!! I’ve been holding out on selling my ef lenses since they are L series that were hella expensive... it seems i will be alright
Thanks Jared! Before buying the camera, I really wanted to see the adapter is used and how my existing Canon, Sigma and Tamron lenses would work on the Canon R5. You just answered my biggest question about the camera. I am now 90% there, going to test the camera September 14 with the Canon
I´ll got mine (R6) very soon. Thank you Jared, it´s all I want to know :)