Love that last bit: "So much of what bothers us is not here any more. ... There are no longer any significant consequences from it, except in the rehashing." That's good stuff.
Let others change, let yourself change.. needed to hear that. First Nations say, when you stand as one ; you stand as 10 thousand..our ancestors are with us.
You're a gift, father and son conversing intimately with each other about the ALL-NESS of human experience before your audience. For those of us listening with heavy emotional symptoms of grief, fear of loss, burnout from day to day caregiving of a spouse for years, this intelligent conversation was calming for the heart. Your love and respect for each other IS SO BEAUTIFUL to take in, it nourishes the very anxiety you address like standing in the dark with a best friend rather than alone. Thank you for standing in the dark with us.
Would love to have you both do a deeper dive into how to face and navigate “the Elephant in the room,” how the changes we see and fear most are NOT for the greater good of humanity…. Weather modification, mandatory medicine, AI, industrialized food…
Love, Love Love. you both have articulated everything I have been experiencing . I now don't feel afraid to continue letting go of past negative and positive emotions I was clinging to due to trauma. I truly feel connected to all humans since this is what being a human is. I also feel much kindness towards myself and others knowing we all struggle but continue to grow in understanding. Thank for lighting the path for me/us.
This is exactly what I needed to hear at this time. I’m really struggling with this existential stuff more than ever right now following the passing of my mother, which was almost a year ago now. I found your conversation about terror to be very accurate and helpful. I’m literally dealing with most of the subject matter you’ve touched upon in this video. Thank you for all that you do and for the content you provide in this podcast. You and your father are really helping me through one of the darkest periods in my life 🙏🏼 💜
This is a great musing, conversation. Thank you for keying up root causes. It is so helpful to know I am not the only one who tiptoed around living life to it's fullest. And yes, it does not feel that great. I have some time left to jump into this life in its entirety, unabashedly. I will have my reservations but knowing that is helpful.
I love the deep reflections on the awe of consciousness and human existence! I'll reflect on this and incorporate it into my perception of being me in this ephemeral experience of existing in the world. Thank you!
For many of your podcasts, I 'share' to 'notes' on my phone. Then I can go directly to my favorites with just a click. This one will probably be on the top of my favorite 'notes' for a long time. I just wonder how many times I will view it before I can fully appreciate all of it. Thank you always
Thank you 🙏. This was very helpful. I received pointing out and started my first Ngondro about a year ago. The more granular sensations of dissolution and impermanence coming from the deep practice had me feeling disengaged / unmoored, particularly as my profession is in historic preservation. Your point about remembering that there is an ongoing resourcing happening alongside the dissolution was very helpful - and brings a real richness to contemplating shunyata.
Forrest, im so glad you have completely invested into life. I love your personality. When you laughed today, it seemed more real and open than ive heard before. I really smiled. Congrats on a great life that youve cultivated for yourself.
Great episode, I personally love the abstract parts. I couldn’t stop smiling at the discussion of the expansion of time, and the unbroken line of life. That stuff is just amazing. Gotta love ‘awe’ :) It feels like there’s enough content left for a part 2, if you guys are ever in the mood. It was making me think about the impact of different cultural views, and how that affects impermanence anxiety. Caitlin Doughty’s book “From Here to Eternity” came to mind; she explores how death and dying are handled in different societies, and how that also affects the way people live. Being Well Matcha Drinking Game: Forrest mentions agency Rick is really excited to get into today’s topic Rick “3 parts / 3 steps” Endearing father-son moment Forrest mentions his partner/relationship Rock climbing Compliment about how well someone worded something Bonus: Forrest “we’re moon walking away from that!”
2nd comment. I commented earlier before listening to all of this. Love that you went “abstract”- since that is my favorite part! I enjoyed how you blend both the practical with the abstract. I resonate with connecting this with the spiritual aspect of my being. Thanks again. ❤
For those of us who feel things more deeply/physically, life itself is an ongoing trauma. The only time I don’t feel is when I’m asleep, sleeping is the only thing I look forward to. My whole life has been a struggle (56 years old) I’ve always “put my best foot forward “ , “pulled myself up by my shoe straps” and “made the best of it” but for the last 6 months or so I quite literally/ physically feel like the core of my being is being sucked into a black hole, I have very good sleep hygiene (10pm to 6am) I start my day with a brisk 45 minute walk with my German shepherd I also have birds, reptiles a rabbit a small dog and a cat that I take very good care of, but I am barely hanging on , I mean seriously, what is the point? I have an emotionally vacant and mentally abusive husband who I am powerless to get away from due to ongoing chronic illness ( brain lesions, swollen spinal cord, POTS, hemorrhagic colitis, interstitial cystitis bladder and kidneys…..) I know there are so many people that have it so much worse than I do, and I shouldn’t complain, I should be grateful for my life, but I see all life suffering even plants and animals, and it just seems like a very unfair joke like the universe is saying let’s see how much misery you can take. The end. Edited to add, in just writing this I know what the difference is now, prior to 2020 I always had hope that “tomorrow was a new day” and that things would get better, and then I was just numb and really really sick for about two and a half years (I couldn’t even bake a potato) as I got physically better and able to function again (about 6 months ago) I realize (just now) I no longer have that naive “hope” that tomorrow used to hold for me. I look around and I know we are going thru an extinction event.
That abusive man may be why your body is so sick. The other thing i have experience with is that sugar causes inflammation. I have IC too and nothing flares it up like sugar or processed carbs.
@@middleofnowhere1313 thank you , yes I really cleaned up what foods I eat when I found out I couldn’t tolerate gluten about 5 or 6 years ago, I began to feel so much better, I was able to finally go back to work and had about 2 years at a job and was so close to being able to leave my marriage and venture out on my own when CoVid hit and nearly killed me. Thank you for your kind insights, I do realize I’m in a catch 22, im just not well enough to support myself to live independently and I’m not going to get any better living under the stress of mental abuse. I think acceptance is my only option. But thank you.
@greenthumb. I just read your comment and although there is nothing I can do, I just wanted to let you know that I hear you, I see you and I understand. This world is extremely hard and especially for us sensitive souls who feel and care so deeply. You are doing everything you can. Loving your animals and doing the best you can is a lot and you can be proud of yourself for that. It is hard to understand why there is so much suffering and some days are harder than others, but somehow life goes on. Take care of yourself. Sending you so many good wishes.❤️
What a brilliant episode! I so needed to hear what you discussed here, I'm feeling so thankful 💚🙏 Love your channel and the deep conversations you put out here! Lots of love to you
Listened for the third day in a row to this podcast. Will likely listen again tomorrow. Still absorbing all the concepts and such valuable information. Good help! Thinking deeply about it 😊.
Hi Forrest and Rick, that was an enjoyable and deep dive chat today. Abstract as you mentioned can be good, the path less travel is where you find the unknown. You mentioned your age in one of the comments. Knowing that your partner and Rick your Dad, obviously, are in mental health career wise, do you ever feel like going down that path yourself or does dipping your toes into this realm of interaction with others provide you and your quest? Asking out of curiosity not judgement. You seem instinctively very good at wading through the nuances and undercurrents of the human condition . Not everyone can or chooses to connect with the aspects of managing relationships, and the sorrows they can cause , in which is, to me the essence of why we question and explore psychology. I often think back to the Friends show and Phoebe’s character, as much as she portrayed a flighty and bohemian carefree attitude she did have her moments of wisdom that shone brightly. Her way of flouncing her arms and expressing her facial expressions while gracefully screeching ‘stop the madness’ comes to mind when feeling like life has railroaded us into murky waters. I would throughly recommend watching 10 minutes of her Friends bloopers on those days that you are feeling defeated… Lisa Kudrow and her gift with laughter will remind you that life isn’t that bad.
Thank you for this conversation. Your discussions are always interesting, but this one was particularly meaningful to me. My take away from this talk as it applies to me and maybe others - Anxiety occurs at the intersection of perfectionism and impermanence. These two states cannot coexist peaceably in the same moment as they are at completely opposite extremes of the human condition.
Great episode, it’s a shame you didn’t mention God in any manner for religious listeners. Either way, good sode and I’ll pray for yall , be well everyone!
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Love that last bit: "So much of what bothers us is not here any more. ... There are no longer any significant consequences from it, except in the rehashing." That's good stuff.
Let others change, let yourself change.. needed to hear that.
First Nations say, when you stand as one ; you stand as 10 thousand..our ancestors are with us.
Another rich discussion, with an eloquent description of Buddhist meditation and a pleasant reminder to be "here" now.
You two gentlemen are wonderful together and I absolutely love your channel and the topics you discuss!
You're a gift, father and son conversing intimately with each other about the ALL-NESS of human experience before your audience. For those of us listening with heavy emotional symptoms of grief, fear of loss, burnout from day to day caregiving of a spouse for years, this intelligent conversation was calming for the heart. Your love and respect for each other IS SO BEAUTIFUL to take in, it nourishes the very anxiety you address like standing in the dark with a best friend rather than alone. Thank you for standing in the dark with us.
Would love to have you both do a deeper dive into how to face and navigate “the Elephant in the room,” how the changes we see and fear most are NOT for the greater good of humanity…. Weather modification, mandatory medicine, AI, industrialized food…
I really needed to hear this episode today.Thank you!❤
Same with me!
🥹👍💓
Love, Love Love. you both have articulated everything I have been experiencing . I now don't feel afraid to continue letting go of past negative and positive emotions I was clinging to due to trauma. I truly feel connected to all humans since this is what being a human is. I also feel much kindness towards myself and others knowing we all struggle but continue to grow in understanding. Thank for lighting the path for me/us.
Loved your comment 🙏🏻
I would love to read that book Rick!
This is exactly what I needed to hear at this time. I’m really struggling with this existential stuff more than ever right now following the passing of my mother, which was almost a year ago now. I found your conversation about terror to be very accurate and helpful. I’m literally dealing with most of the subject matter you’ve touched upon in this video. Thank you for all that you do and for the content you provide in this podcast. You and your father are really helping me through one of the darkest periods in my life 🙏🏼 💜
This is a great musing, conversation. Thank you for keying up root causes. It is so helpful to know I am not the only one who tiptoed around living life to it's fullest. And yes, it does not feel that great. I have some time left to jump into this life in its entirety, unabashedly. I will have my reservations but knowing that is helpful.
This one hit right on time today. Thank you both for everything you do
Simply wanted to thank you both for this treasure of a conversation. ❤
so thankful for this episode!! it’s the core of everything while we are awake!!
I love the deep reflections on the awe of consciousness and human existence! I'll reflect on this and incorporate it into my perception of being me in this ephemeral experience of existing in the world. Thank you!
For many of your podcasts, I 'share' to 'notes' on my phone. Then I can go directly to my favorites with just a click.
This one will probably be on the top of my favorite 'notes' for a long time.
I just wonder how many times I will view it before I can fully appreciate all of it.
Thank you always
Thank you 🙏. This was very helpful. I received pointing out and started my first Ngondro about a year ago. The more granular sensations of dissolution and impermanence coming from the deep practice had me feeling disengaged / unmoored, particularly as my profession is in historic preservation. Your point about remembering that there is an ongoing resourcing happening alongside the dissolution was very helpful - and brings a real richness to contemplating shunyata.
Such an important topic, so rarely discussed. Thanks for your insights!
Gradually then suddenly 😂 YES! good to look at life with a sense of humor and that is so very helpful! 🙏🌺
I love this podcast; from the opening music to the recap.
Father & Son have such a great exchange.
We are all just ‘walking each other home.’
Forrest, im so glad you have completely invested into life. I love your personality. When you laughed today, it seemed more real and open than ive heard before. I really smiled. Congrats on a great life that youve cultivated for yourself.
Great episode, I personally love the abstract parts. I couldn’t stop smiling at the discussion of the expansion of time, and the unbroken line of life. That stuff is just amazing. Gotta love ‘awe’ :)
It feels like there’s enough content left for a part 2, if you guys are ever in the mood. It was making me think about the impact of different cultural views, and how that affects impermanence anxiety. Caitlin Doughty’s book “From Here to Eternity” came to mind; she explores how death and dying are handled in different societies, and how that also affects the way people live.
Being Well Matcha Drinking Game:
Forrest mentions agency
Rick is really excited to get into today’s topic
Rick “3 parts / 3 steps”
Endearing father-son moment
Forrest mentions his partner/relationship
Rock climbing
Compliment about how well someone worded something
Bonus: Forrest “we’re moon walking away from that!”
Wonderful episode! Definitely not too out there at all for my taste. I found it entertaining, instructive and very inspirational. Keep 'em coming!
I am so blessed by your channel. Letting go- while letting in! Wow! Thanks, Brenda. ❤
2nd comment. I commented earlier before listening to all of this. Love that you went “abstract”- since that is my favorite part! I enjoyed how you blend both the practical with the abstract. I resonate with connecting this with the spiritual aspect of my being. Thanks again. ❤
Loved the comment, give the person the space to change....
Waiting for my real life to begin - great song, Colin … can’t think of his last name, from Men at Work.
Another great episode 👍👍
For those of us who feel things more deeply/physically, life itself is an ongoing trauma. The only time I don’t feel is when I’m asleep, sleeping is the only thing I look forward to. My whole life has been a struggle (56 years old) I’ve always “put my best foot forward “ , “pulled myself up by my shoe straps” and “made the best of it” but for the last 6 months or so I quite literally/ physically feel like the core of my being is being sucked into a black hole, I have very good sleep hygiene (10pm to 6am) I start my day with a brisk 45 minute walk with my German shepherd I also have birds, reptiles a rabbit a small dog and a cat that I take very good care of, but I am barely hanging on , I mean seriously, what is the point? I have an emotionally vacant and mentally abusive husband who I am powerless to get away from due to ongoing chronic illness ( brain lesions, swollen spinal cord, POTS, hemorrhagic colitis, interstitial cystitis bladder and kidneys…..) I know there are so many people that have it so much worse than I do, and I shouldn’t complain, I should be grateful for my life, but I see all life suffering even plants and animals, and it just seems like a very unfair joke like the universe is saying let’s see how much misery you can take. The end. Edited to add, in just writing this I know what the difference is now, prior to 2020 I always had hope that “tomorrow was a new day” and that things would get better, and then I was just numb and really really sick for about two and a half years (I couldn’t even bake a potato) as I got physically better and able to function again (about 6 months ago) I realize (just now) I no longer have that naive “hope” that tomorrow used to hold for me. I look around and I know we are going thru an extinction event.
That abusive man may be why your body is so sick. The other thing i have experience with is that sugar causes inflammation. I have IC too and nothing flares it up like sugar or processed carbs.
@@middleofnowhere1313 thank you , yes I really cleaned up what foods I eat when I found out I couldn’t tolerate gluten about 5 or 6 years ago, I began to feel so much better, I was able to finally go back to work and had about 2 years at a job and was so close to being able to leave my marriage and venture out on my own when CoVid hit and nearly killed me. Thank you for your kind insights, I do realize I’m in a catch 22, im just not well enough to support myself to live independently and I’m not going to get any better living under the stress of mental abuse. I think acceptance is my only option. But thank you.
sending you love. It's what it's all about.
@@debsllewelyn230 feeling the love, thank you.
@greenthumb. I just read your comment and although there is nothing I can do, I just wanted to let you know that I hear you, I see you and I understand. This world is extremely hard and especially for us sensitive souls who feel and care so deeply. You are doing everything you can. Loving your animals and doing the best you can is a lot and you can be proud of yourself for that. It is hard to understand why there is so much suffering and some days are harder than others, but somehow life goes on. Take care of yourself. Sending you so many good wishes.❤️
You guys k locked this o e out of the park. Timely for me, and cosmic kismet. So there you go!
Thank you for sharing another deep conversation with us.
What a brilliant episode! I so needed to hear what you discussed here, I'm feeling so thankful 💚🙏 Love your channel and the deep conversations you put out here! Lots of love to you
Love this podcast! It was an absolute fire complementary to my laundry routine❤
When a podcast makes my breakfast rotation it's a real accomplishment, so I appreciate it!
Listened for the third day in a row to this podcast. Will likely listen again tomorrow. Still absorbing all the concepts and such valuable information. Good help! Thinking deeply about it 😊.
Loved the bonus content at the end, it was amazing ❤
I love this episode so much! Quite attached to it, lol! Sharing now with my meditation group.
Thank you!
So much wisdom! Thank you for your great work :)
This was so timely for me. Thanks boys xx
What a beautiful dialogue between father and son. Fascinating. Bravo.
Hi Forrest and Rick, that was an enjoyable and deep dive chat today. Abstract as you mentioned can be good, the path less travel is where you find the unknown. You mentioned your age in one of the comments. Knowing that your partner and Rick your Dad, obviously, are in mental health career wise, do you ever feel like going down that path yourself or does dipping your toes into this realm of interaction with others provide you and your quest? Asking out of curiosity not judgement. You seem instinctively very good at wading through the nuances and undercurrents of the human condition . Not everyone can or chooses to connect with the aspects of managing relationships, and the sorrows they can cause , in which is, to me the essence of why we question and explore psychology. I often think back to the Friends show and Phoebe’s character, as much as she portrayed a flighty and bohemian carefree attitude she did have her moments of wisdom that shone brightly. Her way of flouncing her arms and expressing her facial expressions while gracefully screeching ‘stop the madness’ comes to mind when feeling like life has railroaded us into murky waters. I would throughly recommend watching 10 minutes of her Friends bloopers on those days that you are feeling defeated… Lisa Kudrow and her gift with laughter will remind you that life isn’t that bad.
Like your Authority
Thank you for this conversation. Your discussions are always interesting, but this one was particularly meaningful to me. My take away from this talk as it applies to me and maybe others - Anxiety occurs at the intersection of perfectionism and impermanence. These two states cannot coexist peaceably in the same moment as they are at completely opposite extremes of the human condition.
Loved this episode and topic!
muy lindo! and intelligent and wise, as usual
How old are you Forrest? Thank you for your videos! Have a nice week 😊
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@@ForrestHanson Your videos have been really helpful to me. Thank you and God bless you Forrest! ❤
Love it ! 😊
Ah, impermanence makes everything possible!
Great episode, it’s a shame you didn’t mention God in any manner for religious listeners. Either way, good sode and I’ll pray for yall , be well everyone!
1:07:16 track name?
John Mayer "Stop this Train"
Fitzgerald, not Hemingway on the bankrupt thing.
57:03 🙌