The Ceasefire That Wasn't: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 52)
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The ceasefire in Ukraine between pro-Russia forces and the Ukrainian military technically ended on Monday, but the ceasefire never lived up to its name. VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky traveled to several checkpoints around the eastern city of Sloviansk and spoke to soldiers who had been attacked by pro-Russia forces in recent days - attacks that resulted in dozens of deaths.
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YES! Thank God Simons back!
Wait, what did he lie about?
Simon is awesome. Malice is just a Russian troll...ignore him/her...and the bad English.
mrkmoua Yeah, I was thinking to myself what was he/she talking about.
***** Sorry but I do not listen to Russian separatist garbage gossip, especially from a person thats name is gossip. Slava Ukrayini!
Yeah but in 7 years, CNN, leader in fake news, will hire him, when Russia invades Ukraine 2022, and everything goes to hades, and the irony is the worlds needs him in Ukraine.!!!
Wow, those Ukrainian soldiers at the checkpoint were brutally honest.
It has been way too long since I have seen Simon. Good to see him again
ooo yeah , the famously bias reporter
Isn't Crimea enough?
Crimea was a stepping stone for these cavemen.
Дмитрий Шевченко BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
smokingoldenace l He is ukrainian. Шевченко is a Ukrainian surname.
Дима Карпович
doesn't make him less of a traitor. He sees himself russian while being ukrainian.
*****
Or he is just russian with ukrainian surname.
Simon's back! Hopefully this means that Vice will start uploading more often again. Thank you for these videos Vice!
Debatable cease-fire, didn't cease anything.
My face lit up when I heard Simon's voice.
Vice is one of the last news outlets still producing real journalism. This is raw.
Great reporting again, Simon Ostrovsky and Vice News.
I don't know whether Puttin can actually make the separatists observe the ceasefire just by telling them too but it certainly seems like he is making no effort to do that.
I suggest you read the VICE article about the ceasefire:
news.vice.com/article/dont-get-too-excited-about-ukraines-new-peace-plan
How so?
Why only (nearly) 5 minutes ?! These are too awesome to be this short..
to milk as many views as possible.
SIMONNNNNNNN! why the fuck is it so short?
that's what Simon's girlfriend said.
keep up the good work vice,
much love from germany
great reporting. Be careful Simon.
where did the pro russians get tanks?!?
russia, straight from russian stockpiles
natrone23 Russia lack working T-64BV. Its Ukrainian tanks. Russia scapped them due to problems with spare parts and having plenty of T-72 and T-80. Do not forget that all damaged tanks that rebels get hands on they can repair, its heavy industry region. Of course Kiev try to cover tank loses...
Дима Карпович So you work for the Russian tank army surplus? You know all of the tanks are out of service? No, you just make up facts like 90% here.
@Alex The Awesome the tanks are the new self driving ones
Doritos
Is the answer for peace.
thEPIKn00b Agreed.
and mountain dew, FEDORAS FOR EVERYONE!
Now give us the report from inside Slovyansk, please. In this video, the Ukrainian troops got to give their opinion, now I'd like to hear a report from inside the city, the reporter there should know if the rebel claims of continued artillery shelling during the truce are true.
It feels like Croatia ´91 all over again.
It's there VICE on TV ?
Please keep posting videos and more then one in week!
Does anyone here actually believe that this war will benefit anyone?
Дима Карпович FUCK RUSSIA
War never benefited anyone, not even world war 2
According to separatists, Ukrainian army continued shelling cities even after the ceasefire. Ukraine claims that separatists continued attacks on Ukrainian checkpoints,
And I think that neither of them are lying, since both sides have their trigger happy hotheads and rogue groups that aren't controlled by anybody. There can be no ceasefire. But Ukrainian army should definitely stop shellings and bombings inside the cities, where many civilians may get hurt.
and Hitler sayed that Poland attacked germany first so fuck that you cant trust either of those statments its fucking war!
Exactly - I think there are SO many brainless idiots, and really poor organisation on both sides that I think despite the ceasefire both sides had some morons that ended up shooting the other side because... well they were pumped up on vodka and Putin/ Kiev propaganda, and had no brains of their own.
And so both sides ended up thinking that other other "evil" side had voilated the ceasefire.
vladxx2
please tell me why putins propaganda is that evil. please try to see it from third person and observe the western media. ITS THE SAME PROPAGANDA LIKE IN THE EAST JUST THE FUCKING OPPOSITE ! to make it clear i am from germany and i am neither russian nor have russian relatives.
Alex Tsaren
lol guy in the video says they bombed slavyansk :D
Ometen Exacly why Russia try not to be involved military because USA and EU are falling down. Anover long term war will be enough not pay iggest debt in the world. But we are not stupid nighver our president. So go ahead kill people there, more you kill twise as more wll rebel against you, remeber Afganistan all be much worse mercs of rightful or pure terrirost organisation already start to go in Ex-ukraine in order to fill west with organised terrorst groups having combat experience. Separatist will eventualy win this fight where workless mercs will came ? Thats right probably in your town.
Come one Vice more news stories ......You guys were pumping them out everyday but now its like once a week....keep up the good job
The machine gun (PK, or PKM) form the beginning of the video is called 'Ceca' (tze tza) in Serbia. The gun is just like the singer, the more you squeeze it, the better is sings :)
What the fuck?
Where did they get the AGS-30?
It could be an AGS-17 which is soviet made. Or it could have been bought from Russia at one point before the invasion and civil war.
Marzo723 AGS-30 is the new model released by the Russian Federation
Marzo723 yup, no way they'd get their hands on that, unless they are getting funded by Russia behind the back
ZX Spectrum of course the pro Russian rebels are getting funded by Russia, rebels are marching from Russia and getting passed their 40k+ troops along the Ukrainian border pretty easily. Russia has the technology to see troop movements in many different ways as well as a well defended border and yet these rebels are getting by because putin wants them to get by.
FUCK YES OUR SIMON IS BACK!!!!
I like that Vice is always in the middle of anything they are covering, good journalism is a little bit crazy.
why do i have to wait for 6 days for a 5min video, humm?
Why they did not mention that the checkpoint was shelled from their side to repel self-defense forces? Even with their wounded friends laying on ground? Currently friendly fire does more casaulties than self-defense troops.
Сегодня целый день смотрю видео из серии "Русская рулетка", сначала плевался, что все подаётся однобоко в сторону Украинской власти, но сейчас понимаю, что если владеть всей информацией и посмотреть данные серии, то картина складывается отчётливо. Жалко, что на западе, до сих пор информация подаётся так, как нужно правительству.
Сейчас то понимаем что украинцы были правы
@@liroi7318 не были они правы. Эту войну спровоцировал запад
Тяжело с брехливым царем жить,но вы сами его выбираете.
good work vice
VICE NEWS PLEASE KEEP POSTING ABOUT THIS PLEASE
Отдельное спасибо за Крым.
Just an episode or two back the separatists also mentioned that Poroshenko's troops were attacking after he called a ceasefire
Im no expert or marsksman but wat are they firing at in the beggining
Can someone explain both sides to me and reasons of the war. I'm lost
The bankers would rather see the Ukraine in ruins, just like Syria than let go of a country that they snidely took by political trickery.
Donetsk will achieve independence. The rebels have the support of the people, their moral is high and they will fight for every inch of their land. True warriors. The ukrainian army is serously loosing their will to fight. I actually feel sorry for some of the soldiers, they didnt know what they were getting into. Their government has abandoned them and their president is only interested in licking the wests boots. They said themselfs, their generals couldn't give two shits if they lived or died because their the ones making the $$ out of all the bloodshed. GLORY TO THE DONBASS PEOPLE'S MILITIA!
I think you wanted to say "GLORY TO THE DUMBASS PEOPLE'S MILITIA!"
***** CNN tell u that??
Joao Machado nope.
#StopPostingProRusianShitSaveOurBrains
Only problem I have with pro russians is that the majority of the people on youtube and all over the internet people say y'all are fighting against fascists because the Ukraine government tried to make Ukrainian language the national language and the right sector was a big part of the protest (correct me if I'm wrong) and y'all are strictly anti fascist..
With saying that how can anti fascist side with a fascist nation such as russian federation? examples :there is a national religion, there is a national language, there is a ban on homosexuality and they are treating gay people like they are sub human, there are laws in Russia against profanity and what you can say in public, and Putin has been in power and doesn't seem he is gonna leave any time soon
So with Russian federation basicly doing a lot a fascist dictatorship would do how can the pro Russians say they are anti fascist
And just so you know I'm not trying to be a dick I just really want to know because shit seems contradictory either your against all forms of fascism or your not against fascism
When are ceasefires actually EVER a ceasefire?
Waited have a month ahalf for a 4min flick
It's interesting... they've forgot to mention in previous episodes that the Ukranians kept shelling civilians during the "ceasefire". I'm wondering why...
Piss poor, slow coverage of Ukraine conflict now, Vice are obviously not interested anymore!
1:30 is that Jake from vsauce 3?
0:03 what MG is that?
'The AGS-17 Plamya' automatic grenade launcher
Последний комент на видео лол. Кто она такая Россия, что бы нам диктовать?) И действительно, подумаешь ядерная держава с гиперзвуковым оружием кинжал, калибрами, И другими новейшими системами нового вооружения. Кто она такая?) По моське получили юшкой умылись, если не поняли, ещё получите. И это даже без введения на Донбасс регулярной армии. Так чисто добровольцы повоевать зашли.
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Who's better, Putin or Obama.
Who's better, a tiger or a lion?
Antonio Caballero That would be a tiger, or a house cat that shits all over the furniture whenever he can?
I was saying that I prefer putin..... Thats why i said tiger first.
can we kill them both?
Actually, thats preferable, but id rather have putin, who has actually improved his peoples lives, rather than shitting all over them. (yes you, mr obama, im talking about you!)
3:21 how can you shoot BACK when you are not fired upon?
Beautiful job.....
After reading the comments section, I've been noticing that there's a lot of "Kiev is good" or "Pro-russians are good" etc. but what you people have to understand is that there is no black and white, but a gray situation where no one side is good or bad. As from of a month ago I decided not to choose a side because too much shit was happening of kiev this or seperatist that(But I am still interested to see what happens). Obama and Putin both have their hands stuck in Ukraine and they're both not the greatest guys. I do feel bad for the people with their houses getting destroyed in the east, but I don't necessarily blame the ukrainian army. I don't think they are doing it intentionally( I hope not) but this is war (I know its not war, but its a armed conflict involving the military so im going to call it that) and collateral damage does happen,no one likes it but it happens. but also if there are enemy combatants in an occupied building firing on them, by all means they have the right to fire on it.
It would be interesting to hear your views today!
let me make this clear that the "Russian separates" are Ukrainian civilians that support Russia, and the Russian government has almost nothing to do with this. Its Ukraine's fault they cant keep their own people happy
lol
the bum at the end pissed me off so i had to say this
You know, besides annexing Crimea prior to which there was no separatist movements.
Sure.
No the pro Russians are Russian and what maybe because your nation doesn't keep YOU happy that gives other country's the right to come in and say this bits mine and that's your bit emm NO you would say this is our country not yours it's hardly ww2 people waiting for liberation because we all know how nice that Russians are having one of the most evil people as there leader (starlin) or the people who created the iron curtain obvs not all Russians are like that but what can you do against a massive power like Russian
If that's true then how come their leaders, Igor Girkin and Aleksandr Boroday, have Russian passports and so many of the deceased fighters have to go to Russia in coffins so that they can be buried in the home cities?
Spraying that static drum fed MG seemed to be a waste of ammo. And then just standing up while changing the drum? I get the feeling there was no threat at all.
It's not an MG though... that's an automatic grenade launcher lol
thanks to voice both sides are now shown. Simon is very good at what he does, the man who shows it from the Russian point of view also does very good work especially the Russians are saying gently harder to collaboration.
Россия за ДНР
куда путин скажет лаять,туда будешь.и ты не россия .
haveyouseenthisman тебе сказали Россия за ДНР, значит так и есть
что есть днр?
с луны упал?
это возможно?
Когда речь идет о жизненных интересах 140 миллионной нации - к черту все приличия, интересы России превыше всего!
Simon!
That grenade launcher is badass.
why is it still called russian rulette when russia isnt even involved in this?
UA broke the cease fire first with arty shelling civilian blocks.
PS: I hate this anti-russian-hippie-glasses duche...
Maybe he wouldn't be anti russian if the very guys that beat the shit out of him weren't russian.
Simon was actually born in Russia......
James Pfaff
The reporter in the video. Simon Ostrovsky. He was born in Russian SFSR.
*****
Except he did.....
"On Monday night I was pulled out of a car at a checkpoint, then blindfolded, beaten, and tied up with tape"
news.vice.com/article/i-had-it-pretty-easy-because-i-was-let-go-simon-ostrovsky-on-his-detention-in-sloviansk
If you're wrong about the first thing; chances are you're wrong about the second thing.
***** Both sides have killed journalists. It's ridiculous.
The comments on these videos are becoming increasingly more fun to read
so, after all of this is over, who's going to clean it all up?
It’s definitely Russian soldiers fighting them. They invaded back in what 2014 ? During the winter games seriously people you know Ukraine is under siege
Simon, you such a liar. I don't know why you doing that, but this is not fair to Donbass people. Maybe you under pressure ?
hopefully the money putins paying you to post this will pay for english lessons
I mean all they did is kidnap him, why is he acting so silly,right? smh.
how many wars are goin on now, anybody?
Когда за американские деньги делаешь всё что тебе говорят, то перемирие никому не нужно.
They're using Ukraine as a lab of sorts. Or a dress rehearsal if you will. Why do you think the American handlers allowed the Bandra scum to rename Krasnodon? Because they wanted to see what the reaction will be. There was none. It's not Krasnodon they're after- the far left Woke garbage wants to rewrite the history of The Alamo. In a couple of years, people like Travis, Bowie and Crockett are not gonna be American heroes anymore. They're gonna be once again terrorists and separatists. That's all. America doesn't give a rat's ass about Ukraine. Never did.
SLAVA ROSSII!
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Objective Reporting That Was Not
Whats the point of sending soldiers to fight if your only going tie their hands behind their backs?
"They couldn't shoot back until they were fired upon" This sentence makes no sense. That's the point of the ceasefire. If the other side starts shooting you can respond, otherwise you don't shoot, and if you start shooting at the other side before you are fired upon then it's not called "shooting back"
that means the enemy can get closer to you, before they start firing, without a ceasefire, they could do suppressive fire, therefore not letting the enemy to get closer
jesus no earpro? these guys have balls
сколько вы заплатили этим недоактерам за показательную стрельбу???
It's heating up
Тогда танчики крепко БП 1 накрыли, это был звиздец какой-то
More people in the states should watch this.
should have...
need more vicenews from ukraine
Simon, you should definitely wear clearer press markings. Quite a lot of journalists were injured or killed in Ukraine already (though so far mainly by the govt forces).
Fight with wisdom and no mercy
Gentlemen, the guy, shooting on 0:03"... I want to say, this is not a machine gun. this is a grenade launcher! Shooting to the empty field. Do you see massive troups attacking for this kind of weapon was applied?
SIMON!!!!!!!!!
Please disable the comments vice.
can everyone just chill out over there
Сбили вертолет разведчиков,а вы кто такие?
Я за Новороссию. Но этот парень на 2 минуте так похож на моего отца в молодости. Просто близнец. Я бы нехотел в него стрелять.вдруг родня.....
last words ...... JUST IN PLACE !
на 2:06 показательное признание человека с передовой...
Кто ему там диктует условия?????
Now it's 2023, who would have thought that last year, Russia would invade the rest of the country
why is the guy firing a machine gun without leveling his head with the sights and using it over a long range? What is he expecting to hit or suppress? A giant? :/
The ceasefire is only when they are reloading.
Russian cease fire = Cease the ammo box and fire.
Love the striped tshirt body armour
The Russian rifles sing;
"Go back to Kiev
- you and your chocolate king"
Well, Poroshenko's chocolates and cakes are among the best in the world. Let's give the Devil his due.
Все русские, а пишут на ломаном инглише... Прикольно
The situation is very absurd. Poroshenkos ceasefire/peace initiative meant, that the separatists would be seen as partners and representatives, even though they are hardly representing russian-speaking ukrainians, in fact they are just insurgents, who took up arms almost entirely unprovoked, unless you want to call a weak central government a provocation. What's also interesting is, that the separatists are so extremely well-armed and semi-well trained, it's absolutely impossible, that the separatists just stormed buildings and got all their weapons there. Russia clearly supports them logistically, politically, financially and militarily in some form also. And that the separatists then strongly shoot at soldiers during the ceasefire, while they don't, makes it even more possible, that the russian officials just want to escalate this as much as possible.
I guess, russia wants to destabilize Ukraine, so that their probable future democratic model doesn't affect russian-speakers, who could then threaten Putin's own rule. After all it's not about russia, but about Putin and his rule on russians and his cleptocracy is under threat, and when it's about money and power, people don't care for ethics, then other people have to suffer for them, which are ukrainians on both sides...
You were 100% correct about all what you said 7 years ago, now we can see clearly in March 2022 how Putin was playing it out;
Wait so this way is between the ukraine, russia and russian seperatists?
Soon you will see a game from EA Games " Battle Field - Crimea".
He said that they are Russians. GJ Simon!
Simon :D
А кто вы такие, чтобы диктовать свои условия жителям Славянска?
Как же Им всем мозг загадили!!!