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Why I left the Legion.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2017
- DISCLAIMER (read before making any rash remarks):
This video is entirely my opinion and interpretation of how i perceived the legion, in comparison with past military experiences. I met some guys who did love the legion, they were in 1REC. Legionnaires in 1REC seem to be the happiest, there is quite a large English Mafia there. 1REC was the Regiment i requested. The slavs do love 2REP though.
Some of you seem to think I am completely putting down the military life, this is not true. I understand how you feel about your achievements as i have my own within the CF. My expectations ended up being far too high. I was given the impression the Foreign Legion was something it was not, this is no one's fault but mine. I have all the respect in the world for those who choose the military life. The legion is great for those less fortunate. It was by no means too hard or too easy, I just felt my place was elsewhere now.
NOT ALL of the leadership is completely "****ed" either, just many, especially in 4RE. Power tripping galore without purpose. There are some checked out dudes though who i respect.
When i requested to leave, they offered me a 4 month "thinking" period if i were to return in, I could go straight to regiment. If I return after the 4 months I must redo the training in Castel. Others who left with me were given no such deal. Some can never return.
I am in touch with a few guys back in the legion still and have heard our section in Castel was one of the worst and some of the worst leadership as well. My experience may greatly differ from yours. luck of the draw, but I felt no urge to stick around.
I have stated my reasons for leaving in the video but i will also add that since i do come from Canada, i can make considerably more money here than what the legion has to offer. And as much I hate it, cash is king.
Quoted from the Caporal-Chef in charge of my "going civil group":
"the smart ones always leave."
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Thank you , you helped me a lot i really feel like we think alike.
I am a former soldier after 3 years and all my friends are getting married and finishing university i also feel like i am falling behind ...
I almost said " Fuck it i am going to the legion" and i Was in France for over 1 year to see how life is there aswell. i liked parts of it yet i hate the European culture there fucking neo nazis fake smile mother fuckers.
and yet you said it aswell, You dont like france you prefer your own country, i always thought to move to france to get better life yet My life wont be better in a diffrent country.
So again Thank you very much for the Video you helped me alot and i bet you helped alot of good people
Glad i was able to help you out!
By the way all the people here that dis you and call you names they can Such my dick really there just young people (at least in the head) and are still scared of what might happen if they work in civilian life.
Fast Tempers, Slow Minds.
I love the military and always will, but it does harbour some people who without it, would have nothing. So it is understandable why they cling so tightly to these opinions. I cannot fault them for that.
Please ! did you agree to serve 5 YEARS yes or no ?
I wasnt in France lagion i was in a diffrent Army but if my country allow me to continue i would trust me
As an ex infantry man recently left after 5 years service you barley made it out of basic, you cant comment on shit, it takes a couple of years to become a really good soldier
You really never stop being infantry, thanks for your service 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Would you describe it as worth it?
No it doesn’t I’m an ex infantry man 11B and I seen shitbag NCO it seems the more years your in the worst you are become and lazy. The best infantryman were alway the mid new guys like the e3 and e4
Military people are born its in their skin which shines always
@@johnburpi8484someone just out of basic knows shit they haven’t done anything yet
I did my time in the Legion, Para's and Djibouti, i also did the British army, all in the 80s, the Legion is nothing like this guy says, its a tough life and basic is just the beginning, some people have got what it takes, some people haven't, this guy didn't have what it takes and he's trying to justify his failure,. quitting after basic is fear, pure and simple.
Paul Jermyn ...thanks Paul..cant listnen to him..
How much of a liability to Legion life is having very poor night vision? (Astigmatism.) It’s the only reason I haven’t tried.
Did you serve with a C Crabtree
Beware Of The Austro Kraut thinking of joining myself as was discharged from British army 10 years ago for a stress disorder which is the reason I cart remain the British army in the leigon is it no then said no then heard thinking of joining
Beware Of The Austro Kraut thanks for the reply appreciate that is was for a angziaty disorder which is a mild stress disorder which the sysmptoms have now passed, understand what your saying on the other hand I do not want to lie however I may have to get in like I said it's been a long time since I had this and have been off medication for 6 years and I am now mentally and physically well understand about combat and your colleagues but I do well under pressure naturally and have done for a while but thanks again for your comment I will have a good think about this before making a dession.
I had a Sergeant major who had been in the FFL when I served in the South African army. About 6 ft tall - scrawny - he would challenge ANYBODY who gave him shit, to a fight. After he beat the daylights out of a couple of big guys, we were terrified of him.
Love it, nice story. My main Drill instructor at FT Dix in the 80s was the same a bad ass Samoan E6 and I knew there was something special about him and looked him up 35 yrs later and found out he became COMMAND SGT MAJOR OF THE ARMY WESTERN PACIFIC COMMAND. SGT Savusa was one bad ass guy the funny part was I was the only one in our company going to Airborne school at FT Benning right after Basic so him and the rest of the Cadre were all Airborne Ranger tabbed and they busted my balls as they wanted me to succeed but seriously cared but Savusa nick named me "Dildo" which I laughed at but Jump school was a breeze due to them and their extra pt. God bless those men.
First thing the 4 months of instruction are to teach you French and teach you the very BASICs of being in the French army, this is not where you become a commando and it is where you will find the weakest and strongest of our bunch, after the instruction you arrive to a regiment where you will spécialisé and continue training for about two years and ofcourse continue on with training until you leave. The guys that are not adapted to combat will eventually be put in a position where they cook, serve food or assume a more relaxed function (along with the old school guys that payed their due in a combat company and descide to slow things down a bit).
After you arrive in your regiment you will start to integrate with other nationality’s and make friends from all over earth, it only makes sense that in instruction people of the same origin band together as they are in a new inviornment and seek security amongst peers, this wares off with the first year as they settle in and start to make friends with others now under a new common tongue FRENCH. During your contract you will have the opportunity to specialize as a Medic, transmitter, combat diver, nurse, para commando, sniper,....the list goes on and not to mention some people have more than one speciality. I can tell you from first hand experience that these skills will definitely help you find a job after your contract and they pay quite well, employers love us because we have shown previous dedication, we are bi langual at the very least, we have experience working with people of all nationalities, have experience working in different inviornments world wide, we are punctual, responsible, motivated etc, generally speaking. Your reasoning is the exact same I had to leave after basic, Thank god i changed my mind last minute and ended up staying even longer than 5 years. Is the Legion perfect? No, is there times when you hate everything and everybody? Yes, Do you have to deal with stupid bullshit sometimes? Yes. I left that place with a shitload of awesome memories and experience that I could have never had anywhere else in the world! I have a laugh thinking about all the goofy dudes from basic, combat shenanigans in Afga,legion jail with my friends, nights out in Guyane, funny punishments and all that stuff! Best memories of my life! So to anyone reading this that is thinking of going to the legion please do not think that this video is giving you the whole picture! Go join if you want and don’t give up to early! Peace
Great post Kevin. I've never been a soldier and am definitely not cut out/have any desire to be but this video popped up and I was curious. Just wondering-from your experience what kinds of jobs do people who've been in the FFL typically go on to do? Do they usually go back home? I'm guessing you're Irish (like me) or have Irish ancestry. What did you end up doing?
Could I get in if I have prior felonys
Is there any merit to the idea (of some on here, not necessarily the guy who posted this video) that the quality of the FFL shifts up and down throughout history depending on the quality of the recruits at that time in history? For instance, I imagine the FFL of the '50s must have been hell on wheels if France didn't throw them away in SE Asia. Now, almost no Germans or Americans, but lots of Slavs. Do these cycles of nationalities make a difference? It seems almost fanciful to say that the Legion always stays the same regardless of the talent pool. I'd like to believe it. Also, there's the generational changes which are effecting the west generally - fat, digital, sex addicted snow flakes, etc. Just wondering your opinion.
I wonder how many among the people who come to the legion for basic training (yet have many other choices what to do with their lives) actually make it to the regiment. I imagine you have to be a bit young and knuckleheaded, but determined to make it because you don't really have many other choices.
Do you actually know men in their late 30's, without military background previously leading normal lives, that join the legion and make it?
Yes I have known people who were in there late 30's no military experience do their 5 years with honour
I appreciate your honestly and having the guts to talk publicly about your experiences. However, I am a veteran and we both know 90 percent of guys fresh out of basic training are not fit to deploy and cannot carry their own weight. We both know that training and combat are two different things. How can you judge the legion when you didn't deploy or serve in a regiment?
100% The most accurate statement I've seen so far.
90%. I'd say 100%. Literally not trying to be an a**hole but it sounds like this guy is just trying justify why he quit without looking like a little girl. I think he just didn't like and didn't want to live that life so he quit.
He didnt fit in. Thats why he left. I see a bit of delusion, this man was/is an alcoholic and served in the canadian army, therefore he knows how much drinking goes on in the barracks. Why would you place yourself in such a position.
I kind of agree, but I think going combat arms, you find people with similar ambitions and ideals. Like when you’re in basic, everyone wants the blue cord and we all try really hard to be infantryman. Maybe the difference with the legion being that many of these men don’t want to be there, they want a way out of their lives or a new identity? Idk, obviously I’ve never been to their training and I cannot gauge any of that, but I could see myself being unmotivated if everyone around me didn’t want to be there
Hooyah
Clearly the tactics to weed out the ones that dnt really want to be there works...nothing matters if you really want it
Exactly...
Thanks.
Did you just say that the FFL soldier is a "very low quality soldier" ? I highly doubt that you got a realistic representation of this branch of the french military, witch is one of the best units in the world, and definetly "a real military", as you say. I only hear good stuff about the legion, and since you only did 4 months of training you are in no position to talk about the legion as whole.
This the guy who couldn't handle the Canadian Army and couldn't handle the Foreign Legion and in the United States Army we call these people Section 8 scumbags and the French Foreign Legion of some of the finest soldiers in the entire world. This guy is not worthy to wipe the sweat from underneath the legionnaires balls
@@jmcleod4894 He didn’t quit the Canadian Army. He was disciplinary discharged. Sounds like he did something when drunk and he would still be in the Canadian army if he could
Lol he called some of the most decorated units in military history low quality
@@methos19751 To be fair he was complaining about the quality of some of the recruits who show up. Let’s be honest, most are drop outs who are joining the FFL as a last resort as they couldn’t get a job and a stable life elsewhere. Those recruits are not joining for the challenge of becoming an elite and technically proficient SF operator. But because they need a job, a roof over their head and maybe immigration into the EU
@@notmenotme614 beg to differ there is nothing low life about them.
Boo Hoo... I couldn't cut the Canadian military, I couldn't cut the Legion... not someone I would want fighting alongside me
Straight up I was 3 ppcli this guy wouldn’t fucking make it he’s a oussy
Some people are not madw for the army thats fine but to call someone a pussy people like u i wouldnt want to fight along a side
Can’t believe this guy would not want to serve with him
My father served with the Legion, he ended up as a Caporal Chef. He served with 2 REP. I think he would be pretty annoyed to be described as someone who is "Fucked up". My father was a great man and my absolute hero.
I'm also ex military and I worked alongside the Legion on a number of occasions. I always found them to be very friendly, very professional and extremely good blokes. Of course there are going to be arseholes in there, they appear everywhere, but on the whole I found the Legion men to be a good bunch of blokes.
I also worked alongside the Canadian military, as well as the American military, and I'd rate the Legion as far better.
I may be wrong, and if I am I apologize, but you just strike me as someone who simply can't hack army life and thinks it's everyone else's fault.
Matthew you just about summed up the Viking: a bum and a loser who can't hack it. thanks.
Thanks Joseph, I don't feel quite as guilty now. That was my assessment of him too. Couldn't handle the Canadian Army, which is fucking easy, and couldn't handle the Legion. Maybe a career as a pastry chef might be more his vocation. Although the knives might be a little too heavy or sharp for him.
Lel. Maybe he just didn't like all the bs in the army. I personally only felt challenged twice in the army but I didn't see combat. One of those times occuring in basic training (I had only just turned 17); the other trying to sing songs and recite French phrases in the FFL basic training.
I love doing war simulation: Shooting guns, tactical appreciations, insertion techniques and the finer points, hell I even liked the fitness. The cold didn't bother me, the sleepless nights nor any of the 'hard' parts. What I hated was dumbasses in command, all the sitting around doing fuck all, parades and all the other bs that comes along with the military.
I couldn't handle the military for that reason.
I am now a trained paramedic and I probably do better training then what most soldiers get to do when I do it myself as a civi (for the most part). I can also afford to conduct that training to a higher standard and learn things at my level, which is generally higher.
If I ever had to fight, I would use my tactics, not those acquired in the military. I would fight unconventional guerrilla warfare, not standardized doctrine, that is for cannon fodder unfortunately.
@@josephcosgroveF4fl
shut up cosgrove. you deserted from the british army.
@@cjtill lol you're so full of it your eyes are brown
Guys. Make up your own minds and dont base you decisions on someone else. If you feel like enlisting - Go for it, give it your best and ignore the politics. You only live once
3) All the
bloody foreigners
Yes, there
are “mafias” in the legion; people tend to stick to their language groups…. But
usually it is not a problem to tag along with another group if you are only English
speaker in the section… it’s the bloody foreign legion and it is pretty myopic
not to integrate. I started out sticking just to the English mafia, and it was
my default for the time I was there, but Just after basic training, off on a
course, a wiser Brit (ex para Falklands) gave me a word of advice… he said
sometimes the guys speaking your language can be real losers… so don’t choose
your friends just according to language. Some of the best soldiers in your unit
may be Brazilian, French or Russian…. If you don’t recognize that then you do
not have enough experience in life. Stick with the cream and let the shit sink….
Sounds like a topical quitter to me...making every excuse in the world why it wasn't perfect and it was every one else's fault...the legion is notorious for Boeing really fucking difficult
He just explained how un difficult it was. It sounds pathetic. Remember, this is fucking Europe. There “difficult” is a lot different from what Americans “difficult” is.
@@grantwalter2243 you're kidding? You think the legion is what this guy said? Wise thr fk up. I know legionnaires and they are tough bustards. US marines couldn't even do their jungle assault course.
@@frosty_soda I'm going to go ahead and say with 100 percent confidence that you know absolutely no marines and nothing about the marine corps lol. Go talk to a couple recon guys about the training they went through. shit jungle training is a vacation in comparison to the cold weather training up in the mountains. Or sere school. You should learn something before running off at the lips. It could get you in trouble one day. I won't say there isn't harder training around the world in very specific military institutions. But the fact remains that the American military is by a huge margin the strongest on the planet. Again I agree that there are much harder trained military units in the world but the French foreign legion is definitely not on that list. That's not me bashing the legion ether. I have a vast respect for all of the world's military and the people that give their lives to be a part of it. I am a US marine myself I also served in the US army for a term we bust each other's balls but there is always a respect between military men and women. All that said I'm sure they don't make it easy by any means. But the US marines train like animals I've had times I would have preferred death over going through some of the things we train for but that's what separates the men from the boys I guess. Lol.
I served 7 years in the British army (22nd Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery for 4 years and 16th Air Defence Regiment, R.A for 3 years). I only left the army to try and save my failing marriage and so 6 months after I got out my marriage ended anyway and I was left with a feeling of WTF am I doing as a person that is so bad that I deserve to be in this situation? So after a while of feeling sorry for myself I decided that instead of sitting around and whining about stuff I needed to pick myself up and do something about it, I then thought about joining the French Foreign Legion and started to gather as much information as I could, I then read that you have to commit for 5 years and given that I had just done 7 years in the British army I felt that 5 years was too much, had it been 3 years minimum for the legion I think I would have given it a go. Anyone that serves in the military (especially these days) have my full respect because it is probably one of the most demanding and difficult jobs out there.
I served in FFL full five years. The only reason I left was that I got wounded. After that I was no longer " fit for combat", they offered me a new five year deal with an instant promotion. That would've meant that I could only serve as an instructor in 2eme REP. I was active 1990-1995. Things were bit different back then...I mean the whole selection process and how one ends up doing what they do. CEA, STE, Sergent...no one cried there. That said, I understand your decision. It's not all fun and games, most of the time you're doing absolutely nothing. No shame in quitting. You did not even reach the point where you were pointed out to a Regiment. Then the training really begins. Try 3rd Rei, 14DBLE or the 2nd REP. You also said Sergents are crazy? They have to serve at least 5 years before getting that rank, at least. Yeah the discipline in FFL is a bit different.
You mentioned one Royal Marine quitting...well I had 3 Royal Marines in my group. 1 german (former GSG-9) and one SAS.
I understand what you're doing. FFL is not for everyone. At times, it's a very shitty place to be in. One may not end up being a member of SF teams. It's kinda good that you bring that up. Then again you never even completed the basic training or if you did, you never served in a Regiment. That's all Be Well!
Great history and my respec for you. What happened to you?
I wonder what a GSG-9 and SAS would be doing in the FFL.
@@matro2 he is obviously a bullshiter. Why would a SAS bloke end up in the ffl.
@@azretah1706 another walt bullshitter. I spent 6years in the guards In the British Army. I know a bullshitter when I see one. Why would any sf bloke on the top of his game give it up to just be a sandbag in the legion who just do the odd buckshe tour in Mali. The above guy is talking out of his ass.
@@soldier2297
How do i know you are not bullshitting? "Soldier 22"
He went into the Legion for the "culture" and he says he loves it there. Last time i talked to him was probably a month ago.
In most armed forces, the real training begins after basic and life in your regiment is usually a completely different experience. You probably endured the worst part of the Legion, left before really giving it a chance and missed out on the best part.
Royal marine commando here with 5 years experience with 45 commando in Scotland. Hi I joined the legion and had served 8 amazing years. FFL IS different in many ways as can be expected. Physically the FFL with piss all over the top of any regular army , marine ,navy and special force in the world. Understand one thing my friend !! If all army, navy airforce and special forces all received the same training and same shit. We would all be fighting the same way with the same tactics. FFL have training tactics for a reason! I learned a lot from FFL and carried out more missions than I had ever carried out. You obviously can’t commit yourself to any, you have your own inner problems that you need to deal with, but the legion is very special to me and I have served with some amazing men , Scotland salutes !!! 🏴 🇫🇷
iain bredin physically speaking, which is more physically demanding? Royals or ffl? I hear royals is slightly more physical whereas ffl is more mental. Any truth to this?
100 %
hi like your comment no bad words just the truth this has no commitment to his country and to him self how can he have commitment to a foreign country and foreign people
stanly stud are u in?
Cash is king ?? Says it all bro..... This video says more about you than it does about the Legion.
I think what he said is pretty reasonable. In your first 5 years you don't get any privileges. In order to gain those you have to get into your second 5 year contract. Being in the FFL is a HUGE commitment (from the research I've done). The first 5 years they basically put your life on hold. My brother and a couple friends could at least test for college credits while they were in the Marines.
@@elijahbeale7848 hello can you please contact me. I need seriously info about it. I like to join ffl. How is the salary? Pls contact me, my Facebook: fawadmajeedy
after 5 years you would have alot of money saved, I dont understand why he thinks he would come home with nothing
@@mrface417 in recruitment i spend not more than e50 pre week..so how he could spend so much money if there is almost no possibility , as each recruitment building have cantine.(no shopping out of building as u as recruit are not allowed to leave building in recruitment ) .for food n tobacco u have cantine....clothing u getting free include trainers...if u get through rogue u paying only if u asking for extra trainers or clothing..otherwise its free..same food etc...so when u finished ur service? u got quiet lots of money after all... i have served in 2 reg.F.F.L. VIVA LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA as they always going to be my real brothers
@@arpadtichy4722 what is the age limit for special forces and special operations there in France
I remember drinking with a former green beret at a pub a while back and hearing him talk about his experiences fighting alongside the Legion. He spoke about how they would be dropped into the hottest combat zones with little chance of being picked up, of their diehard fatalism of not giving an inch and how they were the toughest sons of bitches he had ever met. It seems they weren't all large, many were scrawny, shorter, you might not notice them in a crowd or think much of them on first appearance but how they were all absolutely made of iron inside, as they had to be. The green beret, a bulky, intimidating man, with several scars from years of action in some of the worst battles in the middle east, told me how he had considered once going into the French Foreign Legion and serving alongside them in joint operations that he decided against it, it scared this experienced veteran far too much. For the leadership it seems minimum care went into the safety of the men, but thats what theyd signed up for, as for the men themselves, from the reverence in the eyes of that soldier I spoke to, they seemed to have earned their status.
RekturRectus 1776 What decade(s) did this Green Beret fight with the Legion?
Well he didnt seem that old and the conversation was only like 2 years back, I think probably 90s and 2000s, I think I remember the Gulf War being mentioned but I dont fully remember.
Legion armored cav (1st Reg?) was deployed in desert with US and UK armor. Not sure how FFL was working with Special Forces in what was largely a classic conventional "Big Army" Op. But I'm sure Greenies were there somewhere. Maybe a segment of 2 REP worked with him. They'd likely be the toughest of the FFL anyway.
I think the point of the video is not to say that the legionnaires are not very brave fighters or capable of enduring hardship (but JUST that is what was expected of a war horse too right, just run into the enemy infantry), but to say that he didn't like the "quality" of the guys there and realised he didn't want to become one of them. I understand, probably there is (to be honest) a lot of people with nothing else in life and low IQ's there, from poor countries (I am from 3rd world country too, so I know how many dumb people there are around here), while he was looking for adventure and structure, something to help him to develop as a person too and I think he realised that the ones who have some potential leave after the first 5 years, plus what is to learn from a bad leadership, as he said?
ChevalierGaucho you are idiot
2) His
loyalty is to Canada, not France
… and he
only realized that after basic training? He sounds like a guy who read all the
books and understood none of them.
“The Legion
is our homeland” … you can read that in any book…. And that is just what it is.
You are in the legion looking for adventure, not patriotism. Basically we
always deployed and no one had any idea about the geopolitical situation. Everyone
just saw it as a chance for action. We did not go to the gulf to look after the
interests of France… we went because “The bloody Irakis, or Saudis, or Kuwaitis
are bad and we may get to see some action and shoot whichever the bad ones are,
don’t care who, it’s one of them…..” then in Africa, the French were in Central
Africa to look after its interests in the country… no legionnaire cares about
that, Central Africa or Tchad, you just go in the hope you will get into some
kind of action, with no real interest who the opponent is…. Same in
Zaire/Kinshasa… we were there to evacuate the Europeans because some factions
of the army were rioting… there was some shooting on day one… then all was
quiet…. We did not spend the time saying “we are looking after Frances
interests” … we spent it wondering if we could someone instigate a firefight…
with anyone basically, no particular interest with who…. And before anyone says
that all has racist undertones, it does not, in the Balkans it was the same… no
one cared a toss for Bosniaques, Serbs or Croatians…. Nothing personal against
any of them, but we knew nothing about any of them, and we were spoiling for an
exchange with any of them….
Legionnaires
are not serving France, they are serving their own sense of adventure and by
default looking to add to the History of the Legion.
I think it is funny how every person in the comments served in 2e REP and their great grandfather was a Pathfinder.
FFL is going to be tough, fair play to the guy for trying it. Hope he finds his path in life.
I can't listen to this guy. No honor no nothing but excuses .
But, hauntingly, he was there for five months.
Bloody whingeing nonce. Got booted out for being a drunk in the Canadian armed forces, who obviously saw through his bullshit! I did 10yrs in the Royal Marines! Lucky he didn't want to try our lot and earn the coveted green lid, would of left after a week
@@williamwallace2278 Bootneck training makes me puke just watching it on TH-cam lol Bottom Field
Exactly, it seemed like he was hoping for french girls to jump on his dick the moment he entered the legion, just to find 90% of the dudes were scrawnier and beating his lazy ass at everything.
I'm Nepali I'm happy in Legion I don't have any friends but I have today many foreign friends I love them they love me
I've heard in the legion you don't make friends you make family it's something I've heard correct me if I'm wrong
Hello bro can i have some help from you
Are u the guy that cried to gunsounds?
Hi I'm greeting you 🙏
Nepal bata france auna ani foreign leagion ma kaha bata kasari apply garna sakinxa hajurle sahayog garna saknu hunxa?
Hahahaha
Excellent Narrative/Commentary.
Respect the decision you made.
I served Active Duty U.S. Army 83-86 U.S. Marines 86-89.
I have no regrets while serving.
Went on to civilian world 🌍 and joined The NYPD.
Currently retired and living comfortable with a Sea View of 15 feet away. I enjoyed both the Camaraderie/ Journey.
I made a decision like you.
Thank You for sharing and your honesty.
Sincerely,
CVS
I’ve been praying on it and I feel like this is where god wants me to be. I served in the US Army for a bit but I feel like it’s where I’m supposed to be. I want to become a light for the group of guys that one day I hope to know. I wanna help make the legion a better organization.
We are all diffrent.... Left after 6 years.....28 years ago... Missed it ever since
How was your experience in the Legion at those times? I would love to know
As soon as you said "i got arrested" i was done. Cry me a fuckin river
I really love your honesty. Much respect from Finland.
Been there bro. 8yrs of my life in the military. Got out, got my "e-jamication" when I got out, and went 6 years without employment during which I questioned my choice leaving the Army. But I finally got a job I love and glad I got out. Glad you decided to get out and choose another path. Don't look back bro.
The hardest thing in the world is to finish what you start. Trust me, I know.
So do i
"Nepalese man crying because of the loud sound of the rifle"????????? I doubt it, Nepalese are the proud Gurkha regiments of the British Army and they are brave men and fighters the British respect.
Not evry Nepalese is a Gurkha you know?
Jake Baba i was searching for this comment...
Do you know why it is the most toughest military in this world I'm also Nepali when I run 60 km I cry that time to much because I have done that I was very happy if you want to be real man go in French legion but don't leave enjoy the military life
k k garna parcha legion ko lagi..?kei information cha vani vannuna legion ko barey
ma
Ok send me request in Facebook my I'd name is Liu jain
It took guts to try the Legion, as well as ask to go home. We have one life to live and you have the right to choose your own path as you see fit. Best of luck in the future.
Well said Kevin ✌️
@@meschachhorne7407 no
This guy has been bullied by everyone there so he's quiting due to his faillure
1) He did
not want to do his 5 years then end up living in his parent’s basement
That
someone even has thoughts like that during basic training kind of points to a
character not suited to Legion life. How can you seek adventure and wonder what
will happen 5 years down the line? When I was in basic training we spent the
time trying to figure out which unit we would land up in and what the chances are
for combat. Then at the regiment we pined to go overseas, then I was on a
course and I was depressed because my company left on operation and I missed
it, then we were on edge because we thought we would miss desert storm, then we
were in Saudi and were on edge because we thought we would not go into Iraq,
then we were in Iraq and were depressed it was over so fast then we were in France
looking forward going to the central African republic, then we were happy to be
in the Congo, then we came back and hoped to get to Tchad fast, then after
Tchad we were angry to have to wait to get to Sarajevo, then we got back from Sarajevo
and after almost 5 years of fun and beer and girls I wound down my service…. And
went home… and ironically spent a year in my parent’s basement while I planned
other stuff…. If people are too busy worrying about the distant future, don’t bother
to join.
So basically he was right. lol. 5 years of a little bit of fun and a little bit of depression and all comes down to one thing... ending up in your parent's basement.
But the guy here has the five years in FFL. The fellow who posted the video doesn't have shit but excuses.
@@redguard20002 😂😂😂
admit,you are too week for legion. 2 REP 4ever !
I want to be a diver but I'm afraid of water :/
I'm Icelandic but i'm afraid of ice :/
I wanted to go go Nigeria but...
@@derekgauthier1785 HOLY FUCK that was smooth!!
I’m Mexican and I’m afraid of the heat
Castel is not the Legion.
Felt the exact same way man, I also left after instruction in Feb this year. The question you need to ask yourself is "what's in it for me". But like you said you need to go and test the water to find out what lies beneath. Good luck to the guys who are planning on joining and if you want to quit, just stick around for the 4 months and make a decision when you done #proudlySA
Werner.
Hoop jy gee nie om nie maar
sal graag meer wil weet hoekom jy gaan join het en wat jy voor dit gedoen het?
Thank you for making this you have my respect brother! Can't wait to try it for myself!
The Legion has changed so much as far as leadership in the past 15 or more years. The old guard is gone and yes the morale can be and is a problem in any service. In the Legion you are there to fight and to die for France,so the Legion has it's own way and as a Legionnaire it has to be the only way whether we like it or not !
I like how you don't discourage others from joining the ffl.
You just gave a heads up on what to expect.
Mon frere, you should have never attempted to join Le legion in the first place. Clearly, you didn't have a clue.
Legionnaire Jacque Lemoyen, 2EME Parachutistes De Choc !!
This Dirtbag isn't fit to pop a pimple on the legionnaires ass
I would like to join.
Simple. Only warrior races stays in the Legion.
This guy didn't have the fire or self disciple to be a Canadian soldier or Legionnaire and now we gotta here him whine about it. Frowny face emoji.
That’s what I was thinking. Dudes talking shit about low quality soldiers and he fit right in.
NATO is gay.
Alexander Mtyčka just like putin
Alexander Mtyčka oh you mean like your mom. Yeah I can understand your fury
Alexander Mtyčka main reason I really want to move to Russia honestly
I'm a Corpsman with 1st Marine division. I also worked in psychiatry and I see a lot of people like him, I.E people who are attracted to the military solely for the structure it provides, its often the result of a troubled upbringing or childhood neglect/abuse.
I think this man has some issues within himself. He looked for something on the outside to fill that void instead of addressing the distress on the inside. He didn't find it in the FFL or the Canadian Army not because anything was wrong with either of them, but because the source of his troubles are in him, not around him. One of the reasons depression is so common among soldiers/veterans is not only because of ptsd, but the kind of people the military attracts. I spoke about this with my Lt last week.
I understand his rational for leaving and I don't doubt some of his claims. The FFL is made for people who truly are lost/have no other option. But like others I don't think he was there long enough to make an accurate assessment. I spent 11 months in formal training, 4 months of orientation to my unit and another few months of pre deployment training. And it wasn't until after my (9 month) deployment did I really feel like a disciplined grunt. 5 months is hardly an infantrymen in the USMC.
However, I will say that the British and Canadian armed forces have the most disciplined and professional troops in the world.
Making me a little paranoid here bra. Depression runs rampant in the military because of people that are attracted to the military? I always felt people attracted to military were thrill seekers, adventurous. Don't tell me that.
@@comm2531 depends
Maybe it's changed but in 1993 I got to train with 2 REP on Corsica. They were squared away, bro.
I'm very much like you. I used my record to keep me down for well over 7 years now, working a job that pays alright but not enough to comfortably live in my own place (30 and live with my parents). Only until recently have I finally realized that I could have an attorney expunge my record, which I put in for earlier this year. I'm currently slated to take the Emergency Medical Technician basic course this coming Spring semester, which is going to open up a lot of door for me. I also considered the Legion as a sort of "final option" but quickly realized, being 30 now, that I'd be 35 getting through with my 5 year contract and only having cool stories and experiences to show for it. I'm glad I didn't go for it, I know it's something I would have regretted.
So let me get this straight you couldn't hack it in Canada and couldn't maintain discipline and got kicked out. So right off the get-go you showed a lack of commitment. Then you decide to go to the Legion and you quit! Could have told you that was going to happen. Long story short you are a quitter and didn't fulfill your commitment. PS you don't know what it is to be a soldier either remember you got kicked out for being a terrible soldier...the end.
@CAVKING19DELTA TEXAS well he sounds like a crying beta who was pissed thet he never got rec time with an XBOX One.
@CAVKING19DELTA TEXAS Yes, it does. And being a badass is not same as being a good soldier
@CAVKING19DELTA TEXAS Being a drunk has its roots in character defects. If you have those character defects you are not a great soldier. You can be pretty good, no doubts, while at the base, but in war, no way. And I have been both in Legion and in a war (outside of Legion)
@CAVKING19DELTA TEXAS 5 years (croatan war for independence)
Im not gonna even count the things I have done in Legion, that is not even a war compared
@CAVKING19DELTA TEXAS Df is your problem drunk to much? I hope you did else i would worry about how stupid you sound!
One Canadian and 2 american who were with me during farm training went civil coz they missed mcdonald
they never heard of Le Royal with Cheese?
lmfao how is this not top comment? too funny
This is a good and sober message. And it's honest. Thank you
I severed along side with a group of FFL's when i was in the US Army in central America Those guys were straight and great soldiers to have your back but this was in the late 80's early 90's the military has changed so much today Best wishes for you
I don't know what he is talking about when he says you can just leave in the first year. In the early 90s, you couldn't just fuckin leave. Bullshit. You don't join the Legion to get qualifications for civilian life. That mindset would be to misunderstand the Legion. It is unique compared to other armies. It is an alternative route, a hard learning curve, an adventure. It is a great leveller and moral teacher. Perseverence, humility, fortitude, it is almost monastic in it's austerity and observance of tradition. It may not be the most tactically or technologically advanced army but it remains magnificent and the right option for someone who feels its deep psychological pull and who is up for a disciplined military adventure. I came out 24 years ago. Maybe it was better then. The calibre of the soldier was much higher than what this guy says.
It is under French regular military regulation now so there is a sort of probationary period but that also depends on regiment how it is handled
Well Mark, it does mean that after only 5 months you can open your own youtube spot and give advice about 'live' in the legion.
It's sad that he was not kicked out the door on his first day.
Have you seen the one where he's got the shield and a wood ax? Pathetic.
Maybe it was before but now the amount of shit that legion puts in and standards that are lowerd are ridiculous.
I'm not saying that legion is bad there is lot of things that are good but in general as army and what army usually do it's in pretty low level, exept sports and enormous amount of strictnes and breaking balls and lots of times for nothing.
I cannot know how it was before but I can say what is now, there are old guys ( mostly chilled caporal chefs) wich are saying that before 15 , 20, 30 years was diferant and mostly in sense of camaraderie and now...............
Anyways what I'm trying to say is that legion is not exactly what people might think BUT no less still wery big life experience and to anyone who wants to do it I recommend it wether you like it or not only those who have been there know it
I got disqualified from the selection process back in '13 (after two previous attempts) because of a 12 degree scoliosis (which turned out to be only 10 degrees), so I didn't even get a chance to undergo formal training, and hearing this guy saying that he quit basically because of others is a little disappointing, given that I would kill for another shot at the legion; but at the end I respect his decision of leaving since he got in by own merit in the first place.
Richard McRichard they disqualify people because of scoliosis?that does not sound right...I have a 5 degree scoliosis btw
12° was enough to get you disqualified? Did anything else show up during the medical? I have a 30°+ curve in my upper spine and I was wondering if that would rule me out given that I'm otherwise in good physical shape.
5) the
legion cannot compare to the US, Brit, Canadian Army
Maybe,
maybe not. There are some legionnaires who think the legion is the greatest,
there are some who think it is not.
The crux of
the matter is just what the purpose of the army is and what it gives to people
serving in it.
Many guys
serving in the legion are probably not suited to the US, Canadian or British
Army. In selection we had an ex Royal Marine Commando who had been kicked out
of the British army for Fighting with a civilian ! Would never happen in the
legion, unless he had very seriously damaged the civilian.
There are
things that happen in the legion that would get you a slap on the fingers, but
get you kicked out of the “US, Canadian or British” armies.
There was a
great interview with a Legion Colonel who also had some very wise words… he
said the army trains the men and feeds their aggression, they keep the pressure
on so the legionnaires are like a loaded weapon ready to use… sometimes there
is a short circuit and a shot goes off by mistake… that is the nature of the
beast…. The legion shows more understanding than most armies…
So that is
not comparable to the others.
I would go
as far as to agree that the Legion puts less effort into small unit tactics
than the US, Brits etc… once again, this is because of the tradition that the
Platoon commander having a tight grip on his section. Agree with that or not,
it has worked in campaigns all over the world.
On the
other hand, the Legion also has big plusses…. It is not overcautious … I
remember a chopper mission. We were back in Bangui after our stint in Kinshasa.
At a town back in Zaire there were 4 French missionaries who needed to be
evacuated because of troubles in the area they were working in. Along with the
crew of a Puma we had 1 LT, 2 Sgts, 1 Caporal Chef, a Caporal and me as only
Legionnaire 1st class. As there was only 1 operational helicopter we
had to take food, ammo and batteries for a number of days. If anything had
happened to the helicopter during the flight or on the ground the next available
one would be 2000km away in Tchad. We flew 250 clicks into the Congo basin, set
up a perimeter, loaded the missionaries, hoped back on board and were on our
way back after less than 10 minutes on the ground and were back in time for
beer and sausage. There was nothing dramatic about it, but it was all done
without a net. No officer in the chain of command said “one technical fault and
we will have a group all on their own with no support to get them out” … and
good for the officers! Guys don’t join the legion to have their fun spoilt by
officers who worry too much about consequences!
THAT is
what the Legion is about… it may not be “the best”… but it is the best at what
it does, the individual Legionnaire may not be Seal Team Six material, but the
pack mentality has always worked well enough in countless campaigns.
If you are
looking for some adventure, like a beer and the occasional dustup…. and prefer
a more old school military approach… join the legion. But do not go if you
overvalue your potential, no one will be impressed that you are ninja commando
material.
So if
anything, the whining and winging of the dude in the video probably has only
one affect…. Guys sitting in Aubagne will say “look, another reason not to take
North Americans… next time we don’t take the Canadian and take a Russian… they
shut up and get on with the job….”
Some guys
who join the legion give it their all to get there, spend their last money on a
ticket, walk halfway across asia, sneak across borders…. But don’t get in
because some wanna be ninja commando gets the place… so this guy took the place
of someone who maybe really, really wanted to be in the legion and lost his
chance because Aubagne had enough guys that week….
legion2rei do you know if you can join the Canadian army after the French foreign legion
I know quite alot of US Marine personnel who can hardly meet the medical requirements of the FFL in just the BMI parameter, and it is considered an "elite" force in the US military (due to tech aids). Also being a ninja commando is better than being a couch potato commando who gets jobs at Lockheed or any NATO backed aerospace company simply because they did some obscure job which didn't worth shit for the US military. Like it is bad enough that US aerosapce companies make guys who fired cannons for a US Marine artilery division into engineers for fear that they wont seem patriotic instead of hiring guys who are educated from their top universities and happen to be legal foreigners. In that regards the FFL stomps all over the COD fanboy US and Canadian forces who need their XBOX One just to be somewhat functional in their respective militaries.
just wondering when you were in the FFL and has any of this changed since you were out?
You’re right unfortunately
Hey man, you tried it out, found out that it wasn’t for you and that’s that. Whatever your reasons are for leaving, no one can (or should) hold that against you.
littlest viking, biggest whiner
"Oh, look at me! I was kicked out of my *own* countries military for being undisciplined, but I'ma go ahead and bitch about these other soldiers being undisciplined, because I'm RAMBO, Pew pew PEW "
WE WU VIKANGZ AN SHIET FAM
WE FROM VINLAND AN SHIET TOO
ah fucking tosser.
@@misterbogs Finland? Yay I am Finnish lol
@@roskcity millo lähetää legioonaan
Lol has anyone been in the legion? Probably fucking not, you guys have no room to talk. Who the fuck would want to stay in the FFL for 5 years with 1,500 € paycheck a month.
You didn't left the legion, you never enter in...
You would have had a good story and life experience. You should have stuck it out and went for the parachute regiment then go into private security, making the big bucks.
My broken ankle made me exempt from the 2REP. I have enough friends within the CF who are currently posted in more elite levels that doing contracting isn't out of the cards for me yet. However, i'm working on a few other things and the big bucks are still there.
I really have zero interest in the legion
Come on viking, another post!
Nick Kamran ive done alot more than FFL and dont have any private security ringing me !!.. No tech either .. ITS Operate or go home!
At his age you are entirely correct. American private sub-contractors start at over 76 thousand dollars TAX FREE per year. Five years in the 2em REP and he would not have been turned away by many corporations.
I honestly don’t know what to do anymore then because I was thinking of joining the legion after I got kicked out of the marines and life is just miserable as of now and I’m going no where and all I wana be is a soldier
How is it going man
I call it Seperation Anxiety ... i dealt with it, it takes time. Leaving service is hard. Good luck with your transition to civilian.
I only have experience in the U.S Army but everything you mentioned can be found here in the u.s military branches and more. There were several people in my platoon that had an option of either prison or the Amy sooo....yeah it's not exclusive to the Legion and on top of that, gang affiliation is rampant in the u.s military as well. There are drug addicts, alcoholics, wife beaters, etc. There were more misfits than I can remember and trouble makers were always in abundance. There will always be some in the bunch that are weeded out but it takes time to get to know who they are. I remember soldiers doing all sorts of wild things while I was in, including negligently discharging their rifles, throwing pins and dropping grenades, etc. You were given another chance after the bad choices you made and it seems like you would have fully embraced that instead of being disparaging and making excuses. If it wasn't for you, it wasn't for you but it's a bit unnecessary to cast such a negative connotation on the Legion. Just think, if you'd stuck it out, you would have already completed your 5 years.
Having trained multiple times for several weeks each time with the FFL in the Caribbean when i was in the dutch royal marines, we held the legion in great respect. I disagree with what is said about quality etc. And I fulfilled my 4 years as per the contract that I signed upon enlistment. I feel there is some honor in that. You promise to do something, then do it. After your contract, then draw your conclusions. Not after a few months.. Thats sad. I think you missed a great opportunity. If I didn't have my own family and a wonky knee, i would sign up for the legion tomorrow.
Just watched bro. Wish you success. Remember man, to be elite is more a state of mind than anything else. I was regular army, wanted to go Ranger, developed diabetes, couldn't do it. I'm a nurse now. Life is cool. I still workout, and I take care of myself. I shoot every month. Keep your elite attitude! It's your attitude that makes you a winner!
Really bad break, man. I did well for myself in life but at 56 I often wonder about not pushing certain opportunities, esp since I was blessed with solid health with no weirdo surprises like the one you got at a young age.
I'm still blessed bro! Life has challenge but who gives a crap! Suck it up! Diabetes has made me stronger! Don't worry about me. I'm good. When I die I die. God has me. I'm going to be the strongest diabetic in history! Ranger Up! Wish you the best!
I can appreciate that you didn't think the FFL was for you and perhaps you had difficulty with the training. There is no shame in that. On the other hand, making this video and trashing them isn't cool. I spent 4 years in the Marine Corp and I can't even count the number of times I wanted to quit, especially when it came to the physical training. And like you, I wasn't impressed with some of the guys in my platoon during Bootcamp. However, once I got out of Bootcamp, serving in the Fleet Marine Force was an honor. At the end of my 4 years of active duty, I had trained as a Marine Reconnaissance Ranger, completed Naval Diving School and had managed to obtain the rank of Sergeant. I decided before I joined, that I would give it my all during those 4 years. After all, I signed a contract with the Marine Corp and I was going to fulfill my end of the bargain. You should have done the same. I wish you all the best of luck in your future endeavors.
well said.
A little off topic but I assume you went to Ranger School as a Reconnaissance Marine? I'm curious how that experience was for you as a Marine! What were your expectations? Did any of your expectations change while you were going through the course?
@@samgraham2110 u wnt get a reply, hes full of shit...
0 1 exactly😂strongly doubt he made sergeant after 4 years lol
Marine recon ranger? I didnt think there was such a thing.
This video really helped me make my decision on this matter, thanks a lot brother, finding a space for us guys in Canada can be tough at times
As someone serving in 2e REP right now I will say the attitude, discipline, and overall skill set is 300% higher than Castel. Castel was complete shit. Zero or next to zero discipline. Corruption from the corporals and shady shit all around. I had one corporal who took a guy's phone he had secretly purchased and wouldn't give it back unless the kid paid 250 for it. That same night he was letting guys talk and use their phones (Which they shouldn't have) because they were from Madagascar like him. I had another corporal who made the comment about how if war ever broke out he wouldn't be in it and would stay back to be safe at Castel. These aren't random dudes, these are the guys in charge of training us. I've gotten fucked up and my friends have too now that we are in the parachute regiment because our leadership at Castel completely failed us.. but here I feel like I can fight with these guys and kick ass. At Castel I was scared the guys would get me killed with that leadership.
Yes, and it's right here on youtube, helmet cams mostly, if you want a visual answer there's vids from Afganistan, before that Kosovo, in between I'm not sure but they tend to be first line stop gaps in a lot of conflicts around the world.
Mikael just join the FFL, and than you can ask about joining SF teams in the FFL. In every regiment is one SF unit.
I had a similar experience; most of my corporals where drug addicts, alcoholics, fuck ups or all three. I left castel totally unprepared for regiment. The difference is night and day almost. Castel is just for foot foot fuck bois and shit heads period
That you dont manage to become a legionair, is maby not a shame, but talk bad about it is lame in my book.
Full of opinions with no life experience... you will go far
to the other side fight But he did become a Legionnaire, you get your Kepi before you finish training, then you are addressed as Legionnaire “insert name”.
Well there is alot of people who have been in other armies as well and who can personally compare their former service to ffl. This guy is on point pretty much. There is undisciplined kids and hotheads and deuces in ffl who you simply just cant soldier with. Assholes do not leave assholery no matter how hard you punch them.
Hey bud! Served in the U.S. Navy for four years and am contemplating the legion, (I have my reasons). Most of the problems you describe occur in the U.S. military as well. Anyone who has any potential takes what they need, (money for college, job experience, etc), from their first enlistment and moves on while shitbags stay in and rise to the top. These problems are compounded with all of the different language barriers and ethnic cliques. I would say you should've finished your enlistment and come out of the Legion with your head held high that you finished your enlistment.
I'm 55 years-old. I joined La Legion on my 40th birthday in 2002 at Ft. de Nogent then went to Aubagne for the "Gustapo" background check and then off to Le Ferme. They gave me back my 20 year-old legs but it was hard. I too wound up at the 1er REC at Quartier La Bouche (Is that how you spell it?) in Orange. Yeah, "massive amount of running." I had a KIWI friend and a couple of South African in my Anglo-mafia.
I too couldn't believe how ill disciplined they were either--I mean even after Castel Naudary (spelling?)
I don't miss La Legion but wasn't France beautiful? I deserted.
I rather thought that after Castel Naudary once I got to my unit that the vast amount of the bullshit would end, but I was in for a rude awakening.
I haven't had a drink in almost 7 years and life has been far better without the booze.
The psycho mongols over me with many exceptions--but the few insane putan mongols really made life a bitch.
Don't be afraid to leave? Are you nuts? If you get caught deserting after you have been sworn in and signed on the dotted line after Castel Naudary then you'll spend time in prison. I didn't get caught so I don't know exactly what would happen but in view of the severity of the punishment that I did witness for small infractions I shudder to think what would have become of me had I been caught while deserting.
My name was Legionnaire de 1er Classe James Foster. That's not true that you can ask to leave at any time during your first year--at least it wasn't in 2002 and 2003.
It changed to match the regular French army. You're initial commitment is for 1 year and and within that time you can leave when you ask for it. It's called going civil. After the first year you're expected to serve the final 4 of the 5 years in your contract and can't ask to leave.
You're also saying you'd come home with nothing...you'll have being a Legionairre on your CV not to mention savings and you can step into the security world which pays good money.
I hope things pick up for you - experiences like that always look more exciting from the outside. I did my 4 years in the Australian Army and I was happy to leave, but you take the good with the bad and I'm happy that the majority of people I served with were good people (yep, even the officers). The whole 'super soldier' thing is for the masochists, but I'm glad there are still people willing to do it.
I am Nepalese . And I am joining ffl soon jay gorkha
Funny how he bashes the Gurkha nation. 2RÈP calling me.
the legion dosnt take anyone from the first world because of guys like him.
TheShart1234 You know nothing.
honestly....as an American Marine.... i can understand thier POV
The previous tough, disciplined, hard work ethic generations that made the "first world", have been replaced by these problematic, selfish, petty, complaining, types /millennials. He even admits " he has no respect". This generation will only destroy America and Canada.
nah its thrid world stop fooling yourself
IQ tests are a big part of the screening and the average IQ is only 70 in Sub-Saharan Africa, so you have to have the brains of a elite African university student to join.
1ere Compagnie FTW. Stayed six months then went civil on an injury. Made some great memories, but it is good to be home...
I still find myself singing those damn chants every time I kick back a few too many..
The fact that you were even passed selection itself has earned my respect. Thanks for you honesty. I still want to attempt tho.
apparently someone in France drawing a French Govt paycheck fucked up when they passed this empty suit. Cost everyone a lot of time and money...and now he's bad mouthing them on the internet.
So he was kicked out of Canadian Army and washed out of Legion boot camp. And the rest of the guys are undisciplined? Well, they speak French to you. Most guys do not speak french. So boot camp is a little chaotic.
Jack he didn’t wash out of legion boot camp. He finished six in his training regiment, then quit big difference.
Great video sir!! Thanks for sharing your experiences!! Keep doing nice videos like this!👍
As you said you felt the legion was what you needed and it turned out it was exactly what you needed since it served as the catalyst for self realization, that you can find a good life outside of the military structure and create your own happiness and prosperity. Good luck.
So what kind of stuff are you looking at doing? A successful You Tube business model? :)
Thats exactly how i felt about it. I have zero regrets as i am able to recognize that it was the catalyst for my self realization. I don't need the military to validate me as a hard disciplined individual and conquer new challenges in life. The Canadian Army really set me up with some solid values. I don't need the legion's "reputation" in order to validate myself, as you see with many of these "disgruntled" comments. It is your mindset that shapes your world, those who are consistently negative (as i used to be, and my haters still are), live in world of shit.
I have a few ideas, this legion thing is really just a pilot project for me offering information to those who are seeking
it, and learning to use the internet for my own benefit.
NickFury, Mise here from Cervens. How are you doing? Flash is on holiday here at the moment, looking well.
Hey Mise, long time no see. I don't see you are Flash on Cevens these days. We miss both of you guys over there! :) So Flash's post on FB in the jacuzzi was your place? Someday I will get over to see Ireland and Scotland. I could use a jacuzzi right about now. haha
5 Years is all you needed to do man... Nothing good about quitting man, the Old Legion wouldn't have just let you go without prison time.
how things have changed if this guy is for real, when I signed up in 91, you were in for the 5 years minimum, I was into my 3rd year and I became very ill, I developed type 1 diabetes, I was medically discharged from my contract. it was the single worst moment of my life. I was back in the uk with nothing, no pride, no brothers, no purpose and I really struggled for years to find somewhere new to belong. when I signed I was looking to do at least 15 years to get my pension but sadly it wasn't to be
and I heard the prison time didn't count toward the five!
you are brave man
One thing I'll say about military life having served in the British Airborne is do it for you. I spent too much time trying to impress idiots and knuckleheads going out on the town together being dumb. If you get ill-disciplined soldiers around you...don't take it personally just be the best you can be and do the Legion or wherever for you. Once those guys experience combat they'll turn a leaf trust me!
You are totally true i felt the same in legion, and did the same way
Thanks man for all the use full info u did putt us as ease we are a group of south africians on our way to the legion God speed for the furture
I'm not going to slam this guy for what he did. He had balls to try the Legion and serve in the Canadian military. To be honest, I believe the problem wasn't the Legion. It might have been he wasn't cut from the right cloth to do a full enlistment or career any military branch. Some people just aren't. Again, I'm not slamming Viking; his path is just somewhere else. BTW, for most people the military sucks while you are in, but when you get out you realize how much good it did for you.
Hard to believe he was in the legion but sounds like he’ll never be happy
You only done basic training, the regiments are a different kettle of fish. You know nothing
Thanks for sharing your thoughts man 🙏🏻
Went to jungle commando school in the early 90’s as a Recon Marine! I enjoyed it, I had recently graduated Army Ranger School as well! I was impressed then at the toughness of the Legion as well as my experience was that these men were older and quite tough! The FFL has my respect! Interestingly while there I met a former Army Ranger who was now in the FFL.
After the training was complete… my platoon enjoyed some R and R on Devil’s Island…. What an amazing experience!💪🏻🇺🇸
Flush out your headgear mister . No Military service is geared toward YOU and what YOU get back from it . You serve the particular country , not vice versa , and not a social program that teaches you skills . What it does offer is self discipline and self reliance , neither of which you took away from either of your unhappy forays into military service .
Your talking shite theres a program in the british military called resettelment which will help soldiers reintergrate to civy street dumb ass lol
Respect you to the fullest brother from the U.S.! I'm 35 and have a past but have always wanted to be a U.S. Marine. I waited too long, obtained said past, and been thinking of the Legion. You've said enough in this video to turn me against it.
I was sent packing because of a knee issue, but I absolutely agreee with all you said. I was after basic training and on route to 2REP. Bulgarian.
Hearing this is fascinating. I had the same perspective of the Marine Corp boot camp in ‘21, I got kicked out exactly a year in for giving alcohol to another boot a couple times. Lot of soft dudes, and I’m pretty soft myself. This is something to consider. You’re the second person I’ve encountered who seems to share my story. I think I’m falling for some of the hype here.
You didn't get kicked out for giving a boot alcohol. I'm a Marine and I know better than that shit. Everyone drank underage hell you drink underage at the ball. So there more to your tale.
I have created a checklist for those who have decided to join the French foreign legion. You have worked damn hard to get this far. Now the question is, have you overlooked anything ?
The idea is that you pick up the list and tick off what you need. The video is 15 minutes long because it is more than just a list.
There has to be some explanations and references to other videos.
You just did basic training and deserted when you had 5 year contract ? then judging quality of the legion ? wtf ? Make your 5 years with real soldiers like i did on opex .Was in canadian forces before too 20 years ago and nothing beats the legion my friend many things you said i don't agree i passed by the same road
Thank you for your insights and thoughts brother. Things aren’t like they used to be
You obviously gave it your best. Respect to you.
it seems to me that you/he could not finish at any kind of job. You signed up for five years and then deserted. No excuse is good enough for that.
At least i always finish the pussy.
JVR sums it up, you're a loser and trying to collect on not makiing it into the legion. Why ?
lmfao
thats whats up
you left because you couldn't handle it. Look at your history, one of failure and rejection. You did castel and left. How dare you think you have the right to comment on something you have no fucking right to!
I truly hope for your sake that your only achievement in life isn't calling yourself an "ex-legionnaire."
I don't mind if you wanna have your little pity party on my videos though, seems to be a couple of you.
I thing you are right in lot of your statement. I joined in 1990 just after the wall, and the legion was overrunned by east europeans. that gave a mixture of western people who wanned to be there and eastern who needed to be there. It was runned by cadré who was incompetent leaders and terrible instructors there desired respect because of their rank despite their inability as leaders. And to all comments! Yes i did my time tireur d'elite SER 3eme REI
Thanks for all 🇫🇷🇫🇷
I have been having thoughts about joining the legion.. but life has been getting better lately but we'll see how long it lasts. But thank you for your service and your story.
If you're looking to join the French Foreign Legion take a few things into consideration.
Give yourself 2 years to prepare starting with learning how to speak French if you don't know how and trust me you better learn French including how to write it. Then at the same time build up your cardio and your upper body through calaesthetics only...As the French Foreign Legion prides itself on physical prowless you going to need it.
During your interview you're going to go through a very thorough interview including a psychological and a medical examination they will check your background. It's not like a hundred years ago that any Tom Dick and Harry could join the Legion now they're being much more thorough. If you pass the pillimary selection you'll be offered a five-year contract then you can decide whether you want to keep your original name or take on a different identy and earn a french passport however when you join the legion you're going to be under a different name anyway so get used to it. Then you'll go to one of the two different training camps to be assigned to a training regiment.
Very brave of you to put this up, thank you!
Very informative thank you. It sounds like any person who is leaving everything and everyone they love behind to join a "military unit" worst nightmare.