One man got a Middleman Jack - Old Timer, and he had one heck of a time putting a good edge on it and he has good sharpening devices and skill. I believe, after people get a good edge on it, that it'll be just fine but people need to be aware that, out of the box, they'll probably have some work to do to get a razor sharp edge, but not a really big deal, but the key is to keep the knife sharp after you get it sharp meaning stay on it and don't let it get pathetically dull again, as we all know a dull knife is useless. Thank you for the review it is very helpful. 😊👍
I do miss seeing the USA stamp on an old timer or Uncle Henry knife but at the same time I've never heard a piece of rope complain about being cut with a Chinese knife. I'm just glad there is someone who is keeping the old timer brand available.
I have a 33OT, made in the USA, that my mom bought me at a pharmacy back in the 90’s when I was a kid. I bought my nephew one a few years ago that’s made in China. I prefer mine, but his is still good.
I haven't heard anything about USA made traditionals other than the Generational series they did a while back. Seems to be modern styles they are producing in the USA.
@@ThriftyKaniffy I saw a quick post they did on Instagram- was at work so didn't watch the whole thing - awesome their bringing some of it to the US - thought they would at least have 1 or 2 models of traditional- luv the vids man , and that 330T DEF classic💥💥👍🍻
Bought the USA340t years ago at Walmart, and even in storage, the blades would stain, if not maintained and cleaned. The new 330T is slightly different, but just as nice as the old one, and the price difference, is great, thanks for the video!
I bought one of these Chinese middleman jacks in yellow and it took me a little while to sharpen it about it to replace a Chinese Jack I had bought in high school and somehow lost between moving a few times and the Chinese knives feel similar to my other American Old-Timers I have it's just a little harder for me to put a razor edge on it I think the Chinese did a good job of copying it but I would definitely love for the brand to come back to America
The older American made Old Timer knives were made with carbon steel which is a little easier to get to a razors edge than the stainless that is used on the Chinese made ones of today. Thanks, Daniel.
The 33OT was my very first pocket knife, still have it. 3 line New York stamp, no model number. It's comparatively smaller than a new Battenfieled 33OT.
Funny to see this, I just received the similar USA 34OT in the mail. I’ve enjoyed collecting a few American made knives, but to use I actually prefer the new ones. No complaints here.
Got the 330T Chinese version and was very happy with it, it's the best QC (just) of the three Chinese made OTs I have. The only comparison I can do is with the American made OT RJ sent me (thanks RJ!). I have pretty much the same opinion as you, more rounded everything and the scales have a resiny/bar of soap feel to them you don't get on the Chinese versions. I remember that from years ago so must have owned an American made OT but that is oddly all I remember.
I think the Chinese one are a good compromise if you don't care to find the USA ones at their higher price. Thanks for the comments JK and sorry for the delayed response. Hope you're doing well.
Hey Thrifty I have the Chinese 330T….. but I think there’s no comparison with the USA one it just looks better I can clearly see it just buy looking at the 2……. But I still like my Chinese one it’s not too bad!!!! Thanks bud talk to you soon
USA's are gonna be better so it's just a question of how much more you're willing to pay to get a good old one 'cus the Chinese ones aren't too shabby really.
Where could I find a Shrade carbon blade replacement for the main blade. I broke it on a 60 yr old old timer. My father in law bought it maybe in the early 1960’s.
the new er ones are what is call a throwing knife, you walk up to the biggest lake you can find and throw it as far as you can to the middle of the lake so no one can ever find it again !!!! i love the old ones though
I mean honestly. I wish it was made America, but it’s not too much of a fuss. Ideally boxes would have a small marking that just simply said “carbon steel, will rust” in orange maybe on the carbon, and a “stainless steel, will not rust” maybe in blue. Simple, easily standardizable. I just like the old school grandpa knife. I daily carry a small old timer to scrape my tobacco pipe with the two blades. Put in my watch pocket. Im just glad it’s true to its roots. Im glad it doesn’t cost much. I got a 96ot trapper in my pocket right now that I use for skinning. For all of them there’s some general quality points missing for fit and finish, but I mean for $20. There’s American made knives for $100 I wish had this heft and seriousness and capability this had. But then again there’s a reason the good old American lever action rifles had its time before semi automatic rifles. Less stuff to go wrong. Simple rivets holding 5 or so flat metal pieces with a handle in these knives.
I have an older knife like that. The blade did get rust spots on it just carrying it in my pocket. I never sharpened it. I just put away in a cabinet in my bedroom. Would this knife be worth anything? Do you know how I could have it restored? Thumbs up to your video's.
ANYTHING in concentrations can kill you. The California Cancer warning is from the nickel silver process. But were talking IMMENSE exposure, that's why it's a joke.
I have my grandfathers old timer, but i would never carry it because i dont want to lose it. I use modern China ones for everyday carry they're still a good utility knife, and if you bust it its not the end of the world.
Never liked that style of blade layout with the pen blade in front, in fact I prefer a blade opening from opposite ends with a two blade knife, can't please everybody. lol
One man got a Middleman Jack - Old Timer, and he had one heck of a time putting a good edge on it and he has good sharpening devices and skill. I believe, after people get a good edge on it, that it'll be just fine but people need to be aware that, out of the box, they'll probably have some work to do to get a razor sharp edge, but not a really big deal, but the key is to keep the knife sharp after you get it sharp meaning stay on it and don't let it get pathetically dull again, as we all know a dull knife is useless. Thank you for the review it is very helpful. 😊👍
Newer ones will need some work to get just right. Thanks, Alan.
I do miss seeing the USA stamp on an old timer or Uncle Henry knife but at the same time I've never heard a piece of rope complain about being cut with a Chinese knife. I'm just glad there is someone who is keeping the old timer brand available.
That's a really good attitude to have, Pat. The Chinese made ones aren't so bad,
Junk even old Japanese knives are better than Chinese or Pakistan knives.
Another great knife i carry often. It just feels great in the hand. Great video TK!
Love the old vs. new comparisons. Keep em coming.
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching, cdn.
I have a 33OT, made in the USA, that my mom bought me at a pharmacy back in the 90’s when I was a kid. I bought my nephew one a few years ago that’s made in China. I prefer mine, but his is still good.
They are pretty nice even the ones made today. Thanks, Jason.
Thanks TK for the share. Never had an Old Timer ... should try out.
Thanks for having a look Byron. They make some of my favorite small form knives.
Great comparison thanks. Much. Enjoyed
Glad it was helpful!, Rockd.
I have one from 1991 not much blade left but luv the little knife.
Well sounds like it was well used and loved. Nothing wrong with that. Thanks for the feedback, James.
I have a 340T from the 1980s. No rust or patina. I have never used it because my grandfather gave it to me.😊
Very cool. The best knives are the ones passed down from loved ones.
I saw Schrade was coming out w a USA plant and start making blades in house - was wondering ur thoughts
I haven't heard anything about USA made traditionals other than the Generational series they did a while back. Seems to be modern styles they are producing in the USA.
@@ThriftyKaniffy I saw a quick post they did on Instagram- was at work so didn't watch the whole thing - awesome their bringing some of it to the US - thought they would at least have 1 or 2 models of traditional- luv the vids man , and that 330T DEF classic💥💥👍🍻
Bought the USA340t years ago at Walmart, and even in storage, the blades would stain, if not maintained and cleaned. The new 330T is slightly different, but just as nice as the old one, and the price difference, is great, thanks for the video!
Glad to show the differences here. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Jose.
Very nice blade brother, I love it
Thanks 👍 ATB. Another of many fun smaller carries from Old Timer.
I bought one of these Chinese middleman jacks in yellow and it took me a little while to sharpen it about it to replace a Chinese Jack I had bought in high school and somehow lost between moving a few times and the Chinese knives feel similar to my other American Old-Timers I have it's just a little harder for me to put a razor edge on it I think the Chinese did a good job of copying it but I would definitely love for the brand to come back to America
The older American made Old Timer knives were made with carbon steel which is a little easier to get to a razors edge than the stainless that is used on the Chinese made ones of today. Thanks, Daniel.
Great looking knife! I have a few Old Timers! Great knives!
Thanks Mike. This pattern does well for me. A couple of really useful blades.
Thank you for the video TK
You bet, KJ. Sorry for the delayed response. Have a great Thanksgiving.
@@ThriftyKaniffy 👍👍🎯🎯 laid in bed all Thanksgiving with a fever don't remember it much LOL that's why it goes sometimes
Love those square end bolsters
Pretty cool comparison. I like the 33OT, I'm probably gonna start carrying it more.
A old/new comparison is always cool.
Yea, I like doing these. Thanks a bunch Zen.
good comparison Thanks TK
Much appreciated, Doug. I like making these type videos.
Welcome back!
Thanks Matthew. Good to be back.
This was a great comparison, buddy. The 33OT is a really nice pattern, IMO. Cheers!
The comparisons videos are a fun way to look at these Old Timers. I enjoy this pattern too, two nice, useful blades.
The 33OT was my very first pocket knife, still have it. 3 line New York stamp, no model number. It's comparatively smaller than a new Battenfieled 33OT.
Yessir a bit more refined and elegantly designed.
This is a great video TK , thanks pal 👍👍
You bet, Prop. Hope you enjoyed it.
Super review
No question the domestic is refined as opposed to what looks like more of a prototype look.
Yes, much agreed. Just comes down to the price required to acquire a good old one, if you can't be bothered with the Chinese version.
Funny to see this, I just received the similar USA 34OT in the mail. I’ve enjoyed collecting a few American made knives, but to use I actually prefer the new ones. No complaints here.
Thanks Jon. The 34OT is a real classic. Can't imagine how many have been sold.
Nice. Thanks
I’m thinking of Schrade purchases now that they’ve come home!
@@dannyparrish724 i like to handle before i buy, so i tend to buy locally…that being said, they seem to be on the way up
Very nice, Danny. Thanks for the comment.
OMKR, here's hoping. I still think the Chinese ones aren't too bad for what you get. A good compromise. Take care.
I have one I found in the late 70s, good shape, still works great. I don't care for the weird blade angle on the Chinese one or I'd get one.
Very cool, the USA made ones are nice little treasures. Thanks Beau.
My Schrade USA Old Timer has 3 blades, what do I have?
Hard to say without more information, but a stockman of some kind. The model number should be on the main blade.
@ThriftyKaniffy thank you, gotta get a magnifier glass for these 72 yo eyes
Got the 330T Chinese version and was very happy with it, it's the best QC (just) of the three Chinese made OTs I have. The only comparison I can do is with the American made OT RJ sent me (thanks RJ!). I have pretty much the same opinion as you, more rounded everything and the scales have a resiny/bar of soap feel to them you don't get on the Chinese versions. I remember that from years ago so must have owned an American made OT but that is oddly all I remember.
I think the Chinese one are a good compromise if you don't care to find the USA ones at their higher price. Thanks for the comments JK and sorry for the delayed response. Hope you're doing well.
Hey Thrifty I have the Chinese 330T….. but I think there’s no comparison with the USA one it just looks better I can clearly see it just buy looking at the 2……. But I still like my Chinese one it’s not too bad!!!! Thanks bud talk to you soon
USA's are gonna be better so it's just a question of how much more you're willing to pay to get a good old one 'cus the Chinese ones aren't too shabby really.
Where could I find a Shrade carbon blade replacement for the main blade. I broke it on a 60 yr old old timer. My father in law bought it maybe in the early 1960’s.
I'd look to ebay for one to salvage. Thanks, WS.
the new er ones are what is call a throwing knife, you walk up to the biggest lake you can find and throw it as far as you can to the middle of the lake so no one can ever find it again !!!! i love the old ones though
The difference isn't worthy of tossing them.
If the USA one was so good why it gone! Lmao. I take the China one any day!
@@jets1230Yesss!
After years of searching I just found an Original 34OT on Ebay yesterday for roughly $35 after shipping
Glad you were able to get one.
I mean honestly. I wish it was made America, but it’s not too much of a fuss. Ideally boxes would have a small marking that just simply said “carbon steel, will rust” in orange maybe on the carbon, and a “stainless steel, will not rust” maybe in blue. Simple, easily standardizable. I just like the old school grandpa knife. I daily carry a small old timer to scrape my tobacco pipe with the two blades. Put in my watch pocket. Im just glad it’s true to its roots. Im glad it doesn’t cost much. I got a 96ot trapper in my pocket right now that I use for skinning. For all of them there’s some general quality points missing for fit and finish, but I mean for $20. There’s American made knives for $100 I wish had this heft and seriousness and capability this had. But then again there’s a reason the good old American lever action rifles had its time before semi automatic rifles. Less stuff to go wrong. Simple rivets holding 5 or so flat metal pieces with a handle in these knives.
It's affordable and similar to the original if you cant be bothered to find a USA made one. Thanks, Comrade.
Where do you buy an American one. I got the Chinese made from autozon
ebay is a good place to find an older American one.
You can tell from the color of the steel between the two knives that the Chinese version is stainless.
They have a different shade, yes. Thanks.
I have an older knife like that. The blade did get rust spots on it just carrying it in my pocket. I never sharpened it. I just put away in a cabinet in my bedroom. Would this knife be worth anything? Do you know how I could have it restored? Thumbs up to your video's.
They are'nt going to fetch big money but probably more than you originally paid for it if it's still in nice condition. Thanks, Thomas.
Thanks again,
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed the video.
What's with the cancer warning? Is the materials they use cause cancer?
ANYTHING in concentrations can kill you. The California Cancer warning is from the nickel silver process. But were talking IMMENSE exposure, that's why it's a joke.
Yep, Alpine nailed it. I will say don't hold knives in your mouth.
Nice user .👍 Thanks
Yes these smaller OTs make for great EDCs. Drop'em in the pocket and have a very useful, often used tool. Thanks Michael.
China Made Knives…
I love ‘em when they are built well. This one is. And like all the Rough Ryders are! ❤
Thanks, B-RJ. Love the Old Timers.
@@ThriftyKaniffy Impossible question maybe, but when it comes to use, do you prefer a Chinese made Old Timer over a Chinese made RR?
Schrade should make usa made line bet it would sale really good to people who like well made knifes and don’t really worry about price
They do. It's called the Generational series.
I have my grandfathers old timer, but i would never carry it because i dont want to lose it. I use modern China ones for everyday carry they're still a good utility knife, and if you bust it its not the end of the world.
Yep nothing wrong with the China ones, the USA built ones just add that bit of refinement you don't get otherwise. Thanks, Chad.
Why is the intro deep-fried
That's how we make things down in the south.
Never liked that style of blade layout with the pen blade in front, in fact I prefer a blade opening from opposite ends with a two blade knife, can't please everybody. lol
They make a nice pen knife that sounds like you would prefer, Lewis. Sorry for the delayed response. Take care, buddy.
Or, buy a Case instead of an Old Timer. I have both.