2000: "Someday, you're gonna be able to probably do everything we can do with models, we'll be able to do it in a computer, but we're not there yet" 2020: "We can do literally everything we need with the computers now, we're just using models and sets to avoid fan backlash."
@@David-wx3fy Thats what I thought. Noobs, they had to rebuild all those minatures to full scale when they found out the actors wouldn't fit in them. Must've took forever.
@@unoriginalname9556 - The prequels piss over Disney's arc-less fan fiction. They added to the lore instead of subtracting from it - like Disney have done. George is a visionary. It's his baby! And I want him back damnit! (sob) Lol!
@@freddybeer freddybeer reminder that George didn't work on the Original Trilogy alone, if he wrote and directed that trilogy alone it would've been just as bad as the prequels, George isn't as much of a saint as you think he is and he clearly cared a lot about getting money, just as much as Disney. Not really trying to defend Disney since they're a big bad corporate company with a massive monopoly, but atleast TFA, TLJ and those 2 spin offs were far more enjoyable than PM and AOTC. And don't forget that they brought us The Mandalorian, Rebels and soon we will get a new season of TCW.
@@unoriginalname9556 - Again. I love the prequels! (I'd rather watch AOTC on repeat than EVER watch TLJ ever again!) And of course George had help with the OT. No ONE person makes a movie. But George damn near KILLED himself to make A New Hope happen. I just get tired of so-called Star Wars fans slagging off the man who created it. What I CAN tell you is George would have brought us something FAR more special than what Disney crapped out. It would have had a plan and made sense for starters.
@@freddybeer i would agree that Disney should've planned out their Trilogy ahead of releasing TFA and i hope they learned their lesson with the next Trilogy, but sheesh "so-called Star Wars fans" lmao that's some gate keeping
I love these Web docs. The PT DVDS have by far THE best special features content then on any other movies DVDS/Blu-rays!!! I'd hope to see them all get and upgrade on Blu-ray discs.
So true! I'll never throw away my DVD's. I was shocked when I bought the Complete Saga on Blu-ray and pretty much none of the features were ported over! What were they thinking?!?!
I so wanted to be a model maker back in the day... then CGI came along and that dream was lost. Now I just build things no one will ever see. But I paint things I am gladly to share.
@@fastballfilms4214 most people always loved all the prequels. Their world building immersed you in another universe. The vocal minority were the haters
They actually used a 3D printer to build Darth Vader's mask in Revenge of the Sith. I'm sure other costumes but that's the one I know about as it's shown in the behind the scenes.
Even in 2019 we aren't there yet. Massive productions still prefer scale models over CGI as there's still no way to satisfyingly ray-trace every small detail on a CGI model. Imperfection is difficult to simulate.
That's bullshit! Most streets, cars, vehicles, and cityscapes in film and TV are all CGI these days. It saves the production money on permits and the hassle of filming on a busy street like somewhere in Manhattan. I'm not talking about current and massive movie productions either. Mid 2000s TV shows like Ugly Betty and Smallville used a lot of CGI locations and sets. David Fincher uses them extensively in his movies. Most streets and city views in Zodiac are CGI, as well as every drop of blood (saves cleaning up after multiple takes). We're not only there, but we got there a long time ago. Just becasue a few productions have noticeable and crap CGI doesn't mean it's ALL like that.
I'm sure *some* productions still use scale models, but it's mostly CGI now. The Marvel movies (Iron Man iirc) built the entire New York cityscape as a computer model based on 3D scanned data so they could have flying scenes through any part of the city they wanted.
It tickles me to no end to know that a lot of things I thought were CG'd in the prequels were actually physically built practical sets and miniatures. If _that_ tickles me, I can only imagine how insane The Force Awakens is gonna be.
+Poe Ghost Turns out it's the opposite now. TFA has a lot of CGI, entire environments and interiors etc. but it is all invisible due to the advanced nature of the CGI now in this day and age. Ofcourse some of it is still visible, but for that they didn't make any real models and miniatures and shot them, like they did in the prequels, they just made reference models and even all the ship battles are 100% CGI.
***** Didn't need to put out a wall of text to tell me the new film sucked. I agree, Star Wars: Episode VII sucked. I'm eating my words. The special effects in it didn't even charm me all that much.
***** I've seen it. It's quite impressive, though for me, it can be hard to tell what's CG and what's a practical effect. I mean that in the bad way in the sense that the practical effects will often look like CG, too. :Y
I love all of these documentaries, but I wish there were versions without all the background music. Don’t get me wrong, I love the music, and it really helps with the magic, passion behind all of it. That’s why I say optional cuts without the music. Experience more of reality of the work. These people don’t listen to inspiring Star Wars music while working all day lol
I think what ultimately made the models look fake and CG was the digital cameras they used for AOTC and ROTS. That's why TPM holds up better, it was shot on film and the models look real as they should.
Richard Sutton because star wars is more than just being shot on 35mm and practical sets ? Because it’s more than just an aesthetic? And that’s an outdated aesthetic anyways, one that Star Wars already evolved past with the prequels. The new ones don’t feel right because their fan fiction not made by the original creator. It doesn’t help that they’re also just a retread of the original trilogy to a detriment. There’s other good star wars like the mandalorian, rogue one and of course clone wars. But George Lucas was also involved in someway with those three examples. The sequels had a chance to have Lucas be involved but then they threw out his story in a blatant sign of disrespect, thus sealing the sequels fate as the worst trilogy. Disney has learned their lesson it seems, as Lucas is being more and more involved as a consultant nowadays.
Is "visual effects supervisor" really an accurate role for Dennis Muren? The term "visual effects" would also include digital effects as well as animation.
The story was not at all mediocre. The script and the dialogue and all that execution stuff maybe, but the overall story told is the fall of anakin Skywalker to the dark, a parallel to the orignal’s rise of anakin skywalker back to the light. It’s one of the greatest tragedies of all time
They’re actors lol, that’s what they’re supposed to do. Acting in blue screen is basically the purest form of acting as one must use their imagination.
@@dream.weaver 15 minutes into the Rise of Skywalker I couldn't believe what I was seeing, a complete editing disaster.... I was so nervous at that point I almost wanted to leave.
The problem with all this is that in the final film everything done with models and miniature sets had so much CGI elements added to them to the point they may as well have just done it all with cgi.
They sucked because they used miniatures that take a lot of time and effort to build? That's lazy? Just like the miniatures built for the originals. Are you fucking stupid?
I love watching George Lucas work. Walks around for a bit. “ good.”
2000: "Someday, you're gonna be able to probably do everything we can do with models, we'll be able to do it in a computer, but we're not there yet"
2020: "We can do literally everything we need with the computers now, we're just using models and sets to avoid fan backlash."
But how did they fit the actors in the miniatures? They're too small.
they used the shrunken head technique on the full bodies of actors
What is this?... A center for ants?!
@@David-wx3fy Thats what I thought. Noobs, they had to rebuild all those minatures to full scale when they found out the actors wouldn't fit in them. Must've took forever.
David beat me to it!
bluescreen. the miniature movies are used as background
1:29 "We're not just building a piece of art, we're building something that needs to be photographed" Makes sense
Oh George! I miss you so much! We have Star Wars now but with you, we used to have STAR WARS!
George didn't really make Star Wars better though
@@unoriginalname9556 - The prequels piss over Disney's arc-less fan fiction. They added to the lore instead of subtracting from it - like Disney have done. George is a visionary. It's his baby! And I want him back damnit! (sob) Lol!
@@freddybeer freddybeer reminder that George didn't work on the Original Trilogy alone, if he wrote and directed that trilogy alone it would've been just as bad as the prequels, George isn't as much of a saint as you think he is and he clearly cared a lot about getting money, just as much as Disney. Not really trying to defend Disney since they're a big bad corporate company with a massive monopoly, but atleast TFA, TLJ and those 2 spin offs were far more enjoyable than PM and AOTC. And don't forget that they brought us The Mandalorian, Rebels and soon we will get a new season of TCW.
@@unoriginalname9556 - Again. I love the prequels! (I'd rather watch AOTC on repeat than EVER watch TLJ ever again!) And of course George had help with the OT. No ONE person makes a movie. But George damn near KILLED himself to make A New Hope happen. I just get tired of so-called Star Wars fans slagging off the man who created it. What I CAN tell you is George would have brought us something FAR more special than what Disney crapped out. It would have had a plan and made sense for starters.
@@freddybeer i would agree that Disney should've planned out their Trilogy ahead of releasing TFA and i hope they learned their lesson with the next Trilogy, but sheesh "so-called Star Wars fans" lmao that's some gate keeping
I love these Web docs. The PT DVDS have by far THE best special features content then on any other movies DVDS/Blu-rays!!! I'd hope to see them all get and upgrade on Blu-ray discs.
So true! I'll never throw away my DVD's. I was shocked when I bought the Complete Saga on Blu-ray and pretty much none of the features were ported over! What were they thinking?!?!
Wow, that is very impressive. Definitely gotta give them credit for these elaborate practical effects within all thr cgi
Money well spent. And being serious. This production requires so much and they clearly don’t cut corners.
I so wanted to be a model maker back in the day... then CGI came along and that dream was lost. Now I just build things no one will ever see. But I paint things I am gladly to share.
That dream isn't lost. Movies still need models and sets
It’s not lost. You know movies use models with cgi overlay right?
I think if anything the pendulum has swung the other way and models are back to being the main thing in movies like this.
I challenge you to post videos of your models. Recreate things from Star Wars to gain traction and watch your channel grow!
"how are the children going to learn to read if they can't even fit inside the building!!"
Haha very good!
The making of the prequels is fascinating, it's sad people keep talking shit about things they know nothing
And you are here. Just go watch the sequels again, they're literally made for you.
@Nathan Thompson Sequels are worst.
The making of the prequels is actually more fun to watch than the actual movies themselves.
That's not good lol
@@BabysitterSky you must be boring af then
@@Loganhundred please explain good sir.
What a talented and legendary team lucs had. Amazing stuff.
Watching this documentary again eighteen years after the movie came out makes me sad...how time flies...
When Star Wars still had soul, those were the days!
Amen
All of sudden you guys like episode 2? Seems like everyone talks shit unless it’s episodes 3-6 😂
Fastball Films - That’s because the Kathleen Kennedy SJW movies are putrid garbage.
@@fastballfilms4214 most people always loved all the prequels. Their world building immersed you in another universe. The vocal minority were the haters
@Sir Knight Errant Absolutely right my friend!
It'd be interesting to get George Lucas' take on how 3D printing would have enhanced some of the designs. Love these featurettes!
They actually used a 3D printer to build Darth Vader's mask in Revenge of the Sith. I'm sure other costumes but that's the one I know about as it's shown in the behind the scenes.
But....it....was....all....cgi?
+SkintSNIPER262 Praise the Force! The PT was real!!!!!!
The Mr. Pete Channel needs 400 subs! No....it....wasn’t!
@@TheMrPeteChannel Nope.
@@christianschmidt8476 Well they built the sets, but then literally placed CGI over almost everything that the actors weren't physically touching.
BoppoB nah not everything
This is incredible and I had no idea Albert Einstein worked on this, as well
its like poetry; it rhymes
Even in 2019 we aren't there yet. Massive productions still prefer scale models over CGI as there's still no way to satisfyingly ray-trace every small detail on a CGI model. Imperfection is difficult to simulate.
That's bullshit! Most streets, cars, vehicles, and cityscapes in film and TV are all CGI these days. It saves the production money on permits and the hassle of filming on a busy street like somewhere in Manhattan. I'm not talking about current and massive movie productions either. Mid 2000s TV shows like Ugly Betty and Smallville used a lot of CGI locations and sets. David Fincher uses them extensively in his movies. Most streets and city views in Zodiac are CGI, as well as every drop of blood (saves cleaning up after multiple takes). We're not only there, but we got there a long time ago. Just becasue a few productions have noticeable and crap CGI doesn't mean it's ALL like that.
I'm sure *some* productions still use scale models, but it's mostly CGI now. The Marvel movies (Iron Man iirc) built the entire New York cityscape as a computer model based on 3D scanned data so they could have flying scenes through any part of the city they wanted.
@@Business_News sheesh this Guy keeps calling others idiots kinda toxic ngl
@@Business_News no need to be a bully about it. You can educate someone who is wrong without belittling them.
Thanks for picking up on that.
Actual models always look better than CGI models.
2:33 it’s good to see Justin roiland still loved sci fi even back then
I like how they used models and not everything was CGI it's really nice
Dalek Chu That’s right! And even if they use full CGI, the budget of the three films would be more than $250,000,000.00
It tickles me to no end to know that a lot of things I thought were CG'd in the prequels were actually physically built practical sets and miniatures. If _that_ tickles me, I can only imagine how insane The Force Awakens is gonna be.
+Poe Ghost Turns out it's the opposite now. TFA has a lot of CGI, entire environments and interiors etc. but it is all invisible due to the advanced nature of the CGI now in this day and age. Ofcourse some of it is still visible, but for that they didn't make any real models and miniatures and shot them, like they did in the prequels, they just made reference models and even all the ship battles are 100% CGI.
+Sci_Ant
jj abrams is full of crap
***** Didn't need to put out a wall of text to tell me the new film sucked. I agree, Star Wars: Episode VII sucked. I'm eating my words.
The special effects in it didn't even charm me all that much.
+Poe Ghost Encase you haven't seen this yet. boards.theforce.net/threads/practical-effects-in-the-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/
***** I've seen it. It's quite impressive, though for me, it can be hard to tell what's CG and what's a practical effect. I mean that in the bad way in the sense that the practical effects will often look like CG, too. :Y
4:25 Boca yo te amo, siempre te sigo a todos lados de corazón
2:59 BOKITAAAAA!!!
looks dope,
but where are all the windows on Coruscant?
4:13 holy shit it's the Mexican guy from fear the walking dead
I love all of these documentaries, but I wish there were versions without all the background music. Don’t get me wrong, I love the music, and it really helps with the magic, passion behind all of it. That’s why I say optional cuts without the music. Experience more of reality of the work. These people don’t listen to inspiring Star Wars music while working all day lol
I think what ultimately made the models look fake and CG was the digital cameras they used for AOTC and ROTS. That's why TPM holds up better, it was shot on film and the models look real as they should.
@UCVXzkcwS2W-zAOU3RwJrctA back then they kinda did because they didn't have the highest resolutions
Ollision But ROTS looks light years better than TPM?
@@simplymadness8849 I wouldn't say it looks better, it just had a different feel to it. It's more... gritty.
I think it would be super fun to be able to create and paint those models. It's like getting paid to do arts and crafts XD
So god damn cool
That Boca Juniors flag tho
I miss the models and real character costumes, the stop motion stuff.
Honestly the prequels felt more like Star Wars than any of the recent ones.
Richard Sutton because star wars is more than just being shot on 35mm and practical sets ? Because it’s more than just an aesthetic? And that’s an outdated aesthetic anyways, one that Star Wars already evolved past with the prequels. The new ones don’t feel right because their fan fiction not made by the original creator. It doesn’t help that they’re also just a retread of the original trilogy to a detriment. There’s other good star wars like the mandalorian, rogue one and of course clone wars. But George Lucas was also involved in someway with those three examples. The sequels had a chance to have Lucas be involved but then they threw out his story in a blatant sign of disrespect, thus sealing the sequels fate as the worst trilogy. Disney has learned their lesson it seems, as Lucas is being more and more involved as a consultant nowadays.
0:01 that day has come and it sucks, what a stupid mindset back then, to think everything done in a computer was better
George has no enthusiasm in his expressions
That’s how he always looks. Even in his interviews
Is "visual effects supervisor" really an accurate role for Dennis Muren? The term "visual effects" would also include digital effects as well as animation.
Awesome
tnx for upload
2:55 VAMOOO BOCAAAAAAAA
pikachu on the wall :D
Made me smile :)
Legend
@@anomalyinc3239 hello there
@@Dektoonics_inc. hello
Whats more expensive- miniature models or CGI?
4:30 BOQUITA PASIOOOOOON
Practical effect !!!
Tamás Méhes practical effectS
THAT GUY LOOKS LIKE ADAM SAVAGE
Chunky Adam. Adam Sausage.
It is him apparently. He worked on the set
3:37 The Force is Ginger
Cool
2:54 Que hace una bandera de Boca ahí jajaja
Nada es mas grande que el universo de Star Wars, excepto Boquita papa!!!
Whenever someone complains that "ThE PreQueLS aRe NoThINg buT CGI!" I'm just like: "y'all don't know shit!"
Rip headphone users who had their headphones turned all the way up cuz the last video audio was too quiet...
1:30 Adam Savage
Plot twist.. this entire video was shot in a model
Pablo Helman y la bandera de Boca Jrs jejeje muy bueno !
My respects to all those technicians and professionals that gave their best despite working with a mediocre script/story.
The story was not at all mediocre. The script and the dialogue and all that execution stuff maybe, but the overall story told is the fall of anakin Skywalker to the dark, a parallel to the orignal’s rise of anakin skywalker back to the light. It’s one of the greatest tragedies of all time
fuck you
The story was great, tho. I legit prefer the story of the Prequels over OT. Hands down.
Pablo!
What if Obi Wan was a miniature?
It's hard to watch these without thinking of what I thought about those three movies....
Hahaha true
CG set of a miniature, it still doesn’t help the performance. The actors still had to act against a blue void.
They’re actors lol, that’s what they’re supposed to do. Acting in blue screen is basically the purest form of acting as one must use their imagination.
slight error in title: "puzzle"
And I'm still here wondering if there's a parallel universe where George wasn't a crazy man and the prequels were actually good, shame
Your living in that universe...
Anomaly Inc yesss that universe is here and now The Prequels are awesome
Anomaly Inc looking forward to more
Revenge of
The Prequels
After the Rise of Skywalker, nobody can call the Prequels bad ever again
@@dream.weaver 15 minutes into the Rise of Skywalker I couldn't believe what I was seeing, a complete editing disaster.... I was so nervous at that point I almost wanted to leave.
Boca juniors😂😂😂
2:55 BOQUITAAAA
"But we're not there yet" he had no idea how close to there he actually was. Episode 3 went full green screens
adam savage at 1:29
2:55 BOCAAAAAAA!!!!!!
What is this? Star Wars for ANTS?
The problem with all this is that in the final film everything done with models and miniature sets had so much CGI elements added to them to the point they may as well have just done it all with cgi.
lol no it was 2000-2001
Very flawed argument
donaldthescottishtwin (DTST)
You're a moron
I agree, to a point. There was so much CG in the movie you just assumed it was CJ
Looking for Adam Savage in these behind the scenes videos. 2:30 .... Eh, close enough.
But why male models?
Were the prequels some sort of April fools joke?
The problem isn't that they didn't use practical effects and models... it's that by the finished product, you can't tell that they did
But you shouldn't be able to tell, it should look real
soon actors will no longer be needed. which is good they are overpaid
"webisode" xD
Perhaps in 1999 it would have been faster and easier.
They were love struck with cgi.
actors do really nothing
It's so underwhelming
“Terrific”.... “great”... god Almighty George Lucas is clueless.
That's a bit of a fetch
The whole prequels were a disjointed puzzle.
Prequel hater in the house!
Finished movies look like total shit despite all of the practical efforts.
I hope no one Likes the video.... EXCUTE ORDER 666
it wasn't all cgi and still shit?
this is what made these films suck LAZY
GTFO
They sucked because they used miniatures that take a lot of time and effort to build? That's lazy? Just like the miniatures built for the originals. Are you fucking stupid?