Season 7 HermitCraft was peak Iskall. Him, Mumbo and Grian were such a good trio. I didn't care for Vault Hunters and wished he'd stuck with HermitCraft. Shame things shook out this way. I know this isn't much, but given Minecraft TH-camrs, at least it wasn't minors.
Since it’s the internet, I won’t be immediately jumping to conclusions. However, him not saying anything and leaving the server immediately is the biggest red flag for me.
tbf, that's exactly what a lawyer would reccomend him to do. It's outdated advice with how fast things spread on the internet if you don't have an immediate reaction, but most lawyers would rather you stay silent than make the case more complicated
He was being extremely flirty and sexually inappropriate to his employees even though they were extremely uncomfortable with it. A lot of people were on Iskall's side saying, "Oh well they're adults they could have just said something and moved on." But the people who he was talking to were his employees. They couldn't say anything in fear of losing their jobs. He specifically targeted his employees knowing he had power over them. Absolutely disgusting if you ask me.
Yeah Ikr. I don’t wanna jump into conclusions but when I read the evidence on the google doc one of the alleged “victims” posted (I also read Mef’s testimony btw), the person was just rolling with it, If she was feeling uncomfortable in the first place the best plan of action is set barriers straight away, she was just changing the subject of conversation instead of saying “I’m not interested” or something to reject the flirtatious texts from iskall. I know there were other “victims” involved and allegedly some sexting too, but I assume it was fully consensual from the parties involved, if not this would have happened much sooner and it would probably be worse than it is now. Also the evidence is from some old ass texts from a year ago. IMO This got way more out of hand than I assumed, yeah it sucks that he cheated, yeah he is unprofessional and kind of a douche for doing that with his employees,but as far as we know no crime was committed so yeah.
@ There is defo stuff we haven’t seen given how the hermits and co have reacted. Hbomb spoke very strongly about it and Tango said he was very happy to do it when he removed an iskall head from one of his builds.
I still think this is blown out of proportion. Like all that should’ve been said is stop Iskall instead of expecting him to read thoughts through the internet but maybe I just don understand it
I can see it both ways... For the information we get and have it looks out of proportion.. But mumbo, grian, skiz and impuls deleting stuff makes me think otherwise.. Esp mumbo as they are good friends and most season played together close... so there is more to it then they tell us and for us to guess..
Based on Tango’s reaction, where he removed an iskall head from his build and said “happy to have done that”, whatever he did is worse than what we know.
People like you are really exaggerating this. There’s no need for that cliche “exposed TH-camr” thumbnail with “CREEP” written over his eyes. He was just a bit flirty, that’s all we know. And if he was being too flirty, the people he was doing this to should have asked him to stop. If they did, it would be strange of them to have not mentioned it. If he actually did cheat on someone, that’s a different story.
I don't really understand the claims in the document from Kassi. She calls herself and other people "victims". Victim of what exactly ? Flirty chat or is there something else. Cause as far as I can tell, trying to flirt with someone isn't a crime, or is it ?
She was saying that Iskall took advantage of her basically whilst he was in a romantic relationship at the time His behaviour isn’t criminal it’s just weird and creepy
The way I view it is that it was sexual harassment, probably. In my opinion, what the messages were were pushing boundaries. Even Kassi says that she felt as though the messages were a bit too strong, so that's probably the stance she and others took.
I remember back when he was doing in person vlogs with stress and the way he was talking and trying to hug her, the way she was reacting and the nervousness in her voice.. I said right there and then that he was some creep who pushes weird handsy boundaries with women and made them uncomfortable. We’ve all had weird guy friends with the “where’s my hug?!” Attitude though
I did notice that he just disappeared, but honestly after Mumbo took off half of hermitcraft season 9, I thought it was something similar. Not a big deal. I will say that I’m reminded of Joel’s interaction with him, and now I wonder if Joel knew something or if he was just being Joel. It’s hard to tell and we may never get an actual answer. Until more comes out, other than being creepy, I’m not sure he did more than most cheaters. Which sucks For the people who were involved, but do I think it was enough for him to be removed from the hermitcraft server? Yes. They have to protect the brand and impressionable kids. I think it’s responsible and respectful that he did so on his own. We will probably never see him on hermitcraft again but he could still make content. Sjin does. (Whole different can of worms there and just an example)
this was new news for me i was a huge fan of Iskall85. I guess it is true then the celebraties are always will be on the wrong side of the table of becoming a preditor ...
We’re still yet to hear his side of the story He wasn’t a predator taking advantage of minors But it’s crazy to see how quickly he was removed from things following these allegations
I hope everyone dont take it to serious for now.. We only hear 1 side of the story and a small part of it... So yes we can say they where adults so speak up and dont be a victim... but we dont know the whole story... So take all this with a grain of salt... For me i am hanging towards its worse then we think as hermicraft removing him when asking,, mumbo, grian, skiz and impuls removing there stuff with him.. is not a small thing... esp when i think that mumbo distance himself from iskall... they where close friends and did allot together... big youtubers (in my mind) distance them from him does make me feel that something is more wrong. But please dont attack iskall, Video's like this make some people haters and take it out on the content creator (iskall) what makes the hater more evil then what happend. I have seen video's like this before where afterwards it was not even as close as people thought but in the mean time they did assault the creator and destroyed someone's live over something they did not do... and you cannot turn that back. Let them solve it themselfs.
They probably just removed him since they are family friendly. From what we've seen he's committed no crimes, especially doesn't need to be cancelled for it
people still defend him, there's enough evidence to find if you do a little digging, but it's a good thing the hermits kicked him off, all i'm gonna say.. I liked iskall at the beginning but you could see his decline about 6 months ago already, never expected this though... so yeh just ignore the blinded fanbase or those who have no morals, indeed several have cut ties with iskall for "reasons".
Might be a little unrelated, but iskall’s little “flirty” interactions with Joel always felt weird to me, but looking back this makes it so much worse…
So viewers know it’s about the hermit craft situation Was gonna put mumbo and grian but grians skin is red Mumbo also made a statement about the situation on twitter
What a laughable video. "Studied for years to come"? These girls are "victims" of what?! Flirty chat??? What did he do again that required cancelling? All of that for cheating? Why are you blowing this out of proportion?
Season 7 HermitCraft was peak Iskall. Him, Mumbo and Grian were such a good trio. I didn't care for Vault Hunters and wished he'd stuck with HermitCraft. Shame things shook out this way. I know this isn't much, but given Minecraft TH-camrs, at least it wasn't minors.
iskall mumbo grian was season 6
@@MissingGrape they were a pretty involved trio in S7 as well
its sad that the bare minimum is people not talking to minors, why is the bar so low
Oh hell naw 😭, the Minecraft TH-camr curse is real 💀
There aren’t minors involved that we know of yet
It’s still sad to see established creators taking advantage of power dynamics like that though 😔
Since it’s the internet, I won’t be immediately jumping to conclusions.
However, him not saying anything and leaving the server immediately is the biggest red flag for me.
tbf, that's exactly what a lawyer would reccomend him to do. It's outdated advice with how fast things spread on the internet if you don't have an immediate reaction, but most lawyers would rather you stay silent than make the case more complicated
Cheating on a partner is fucked but I don't understand why they're calling themselves victims, what did he do exactly?
He was being extremely flirty and sexually inappropriate to his employees even though they were extremely uncomfortable with it. A lot of people were on Iskall's side saying, "Oh well they're adults they could have just said something and moved on." But the people who he was talking to were his employees. They couldn't say anything in fear of losing their jobs. He specifically targeted his employees knowing he had power over them. Absolutely disgusting if you ask me.
who am i to judge, i have done worse things if u ask me, so idgaf
@@mmwmwwThat’s a bad look for you tbf
Yeah Ikr. I don’t wanna jump into conclusions but when I read the evidence on the google doc one of the alleged “victims” posted (I also read Mef’s testimony btw), the person was just rolling with it, If she was feeling uncomfortable in the first place the best plan of action is set barriers straight away, she was just changing the subject of conversation instead of saying “I’m not interested” or something to reject the flirtatious texts from iskall. I know there were other “victims” involved and allegedly some sexting too, but I assume it was fully consensual from the parties involved, if not this would have happened much sooner and it would probably be worse than it is now. Also the evidence is from some old ass texts from a year ago. IMO This got way more out of hand than I assumed, yeah it sucks that he cheated, yeah he is unprofessional and kind of a douche for doing that with his employees,but as far as we know no crime was committed so yeah.
@ There is defo stuff we haven’t seen given how the hermits and co have reacted. Hbomb spoke very strongly about it and Tango said he was very happy to do it when he removed an iskall head from one of his builds.
Very small detail but, iskall does not mean "is cold" it means "ice cold". "Is" is Swedish for ice and "kall" is cold.
Thanks lol I also noted that his birthday was the 30th of December Ty for clearing up
I still think this is blown out of proportion. Like all that should’ve been said is stop Iskall instead of expecting him to read thoughts through the internet but maybe I just don understand it
We don't know the full story. I'm worried it's serious.
I can see it both ways... For the information we get and have it looks out of proportion.. But mumbo, grian, skiz and impuls deleting stuff makes me think otherwise.. Esp mumbo as they are good friends and most season played together close... so there is more to it then they tell us and for us to guess..
Based on Tango’s reaction, where he removed an iskall head from his build and said “happy to have done that”, whatever he did is worse than what we know.
Wow, that was some quick editing! Keep it up:)
Thanks! 😁
People like you are really exaggerating this. There’s no need for that cliche “exposed TH-camr” thumbnail with “CREEP” written over his eyes. He was just a bit flirty, that’s all we know. And if he was being too flirty, the people he was doing this to should have asked him to stop. If they did, it would be strange of them to have not mentioned it. If he actually did cheat on someone, that’s a different story.
it’s actually really sad to see another youtuber turned out to be another bad person:(
I don't really understand the claims in the document from Kassi. She calls herself and other people "victims". Victim of what exactly ? Flirty chat or is there something else. Cause as far as I can tell, trying to flirt with someone isn't a crime, or is it ?
it's a power dynamic problem
Iskall did nothing wrong
She was saying that Iskall took advantage of her basically whilst he was in a romantic relationship at the time
His behaviour isn’t criminal it’s just weird and creepy
@@NotParallaxI get that, cheating is horribly wrong and he was being a creep, but I don’t think they should be considered “Victims”
The way I view it is that it was sexual harassment, probably. In my opinion, what the messages were were pushing boundaries. Even Kassi says that she felt as though the messages were a bit too strong, so that's probably the stance she and others took.
I remember back when he was doing in person vlogs with stress and the way he was talking and trying to hug her, the way she was reacting and the nervousness in her voice.. I said right there and then that he was some creep who pushes weird handsy boundaries with women and made them uncomfortable. We’ve all had weird guy friends with the “where’s my hug?!” Attitude though
I did notice that he just disappeared, but honestly after Mumbo took off half of hermitcraft season 9, I thought it was something similar. Not a big deal.
I will say that I’m reminded of Joel’s interaction with him, and now I wonder if Joel knew something or if he was just being Joel. It’s hard to tell and we may never get an actual answer.
Until more comes out, other than being creepy, I’m not sure he did more than most cheaters. Which sucks For the people who were involved, but do I think it was enough for him to be removed from the hermitcraft server? Yes. They have to protect the brand and impressionable kids.
I think it’s responsible and respectful that he did so on his own.
We will probably never see him on hermitcraft again but he could still make content. Sjin does. (Whole different can of worms there and just an example)
what interaction?
What’s an SMP?
Survival Multiplayer
game mode where everyone is on survival mode and they all play together on one server
Bro is getting a video idea 💀
Is this getting a video idea
S urvival M ulti p layer
just get to the point...
this was new news for me i was a huge fan of Iskall85. I guess it is true then the celebraties are always will be on the wrong side of the table of becoming a preditor ...
We’re still yet to hear his side of the story
He wasn’t a predator taking advantage of minors
But it’s crazy to see how quickly he was removed from things following these allegations
I worked for iskall85, he's a freaky bro...
I got here before your video blew up! Great breakdown👏
Damn, this is sad. I used to love watching Iskall… :/
Yo, what the fuck happened?!
So now messaging people flirtatiously online brands you as a predator? This is the most petty version of cancel culture I’ve seen in a while…
I hope everyone dont take it to serious for now.. We only hear 1 side of the story and a small part of it... So yes we can say they where adults so speak up and dont be a victim... but we dont know the whole story... So take all this with a grain of salt...
For me i am hanging towards its worse then we think as hermicraft removing him when asking,, mumbo, grian, skiz and impuls removing there stuff with him.. is not a small thing... esp when i think that mumbo distance himself from iskall... they where close friends and did allot together... big youtubers (in my mind) distance them from him does make me feel that something is more wrong.
But please dont attack iskall, Video's like this make some people haters and take it out on the content creator (iskall) what makes the hater more evil then what happend.
I have seen video's like this before where afterwards it was not even as close as people thought but in the mean time they did assault the creator and destroyed someone's live over something they did not do... and you cannot turn that back.
Let them solve it themselfs.
They probably just removed him since they are family friendly. From what we've seen he's committed no crimes, especially doesn't need to be cancelled for it
people still defend him, there's enough evidence to find if you do a little digging, but it's a good thing the hermits kicked him off, all i'm gonna say..
I liked iskall at the beginning but you could see his decline about 6 months ago already, never expected this though...
so yeh just ignore the blinded fanbase or those who have no morals, indeed several have cut ties with iskall for "reasons".
Might be a little unrelated, but iskall’s little “flirty” interactions with Joel always felt weird to me, but looking back this makes it so much worse…
How?? What has he done wrong? He just sent flirty messages to people and acts flirty to Joel. How is that bad? Flirting is not a crime!
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weirdly enough i watched all of this on my accord maybe i just prefer simple editing good work
Nah bro I hold you hostage to watch all my vids
Why is Etho and Mumbo on the thumbnail?
So viewers know it’s about the hermit craft situation
Was gonna put mumbo and grian but grians skin is red
Mumbo also made a statement about the situation on twitter
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What a laughable video. "Studied for years to come"? These girls are "victims" of what?! Flirty chat???
What did he do again that required cancelling? All of that for cheating? Why are you blowing this out of proportion?
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